• End the War Machine - YouTube

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 14 19:41:34 2024
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijDYETyIts


    Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2 minute rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".

    He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.




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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 15 18:47:11 2024
    On 9/14/2024 12:41 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijDYETyIts


    Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2 minute rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".

    He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.

    Didn't Trump also say he was going to release "data" regarding the JFK assassination? But when he was president he didn't.

    Trump says that he will release UFO "data" when he is president again.
    Why didn't he during his first term in office?

    Just wondering...
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Mon Sep 16 22:24:40 2024
    On 9/15/2024 6:55 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 9/14/2024 12:41 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijDYETyIts
    Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2 minute
    rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".
    He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.

    Didn't Trump also say he was going to release "data" regarding the JFK
    assassination? But when he was president he didn't.

    Trump says that he will release UFO "data" when he is president
    again. Why didn't he during his first term in office?

    Just wondering...

    One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the "data" on the Epstein case.

    Yeah, I would like the government to stop withholding that "data" as well.
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Sep 17 11:09:36 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the "data" on the Epstein case.


    What a dumb post.

    The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something to hide himself? Lol.



    Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.

    Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?

    So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if everyone knew about your ruling class.


    But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out there in so called "fringe sites".



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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Sep 17 22:09:55 2024
    On 9/17/2024 1:15 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 9/17/24 09:25, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the
    "data" on the Epstein case.


    What a dumb post.

    The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something to
    hide himself? Lol.
    Perhaps.  There is a lot of evidence they were relatively close
    friends.  Remember the video where he and Epstein were palling
    around at a party at Mar-a-Lago?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLcfpU2cubo
    This summer he was flying around the country in Epstein's old jet
    while his was being maintained, btw.




    Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.

    Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society
    and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?

    So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if everyone
    knew about your ruling class.


    But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out
    there in so called "fringe sites".
    A hated, jailed man who was chummy with the sitting president and
    may have had dirt on him mysteriously dies in jail.  hmm..
    Look how he dithered about releasing Epstein "data" in the Fox News
    interview - https://youtu.be/t8mKw85ZQuU?t=85 (linked directly to
    the clip).  Guess what, Fox CLIPPED that part out when they aired it
    live, everything after "Yeah".
    And a reminder, he didn't release all the JFK "data" either
    https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef
    What happened to his "absolute right" to do anything he wants with
    any documents?!

    I'm acknowledging that everything you say is possible, and I'll accept
    that you say that Trump did not release the Epstein "data". You then
    imply that he did this because it was damaging.

    OK, he did that while he was president and had more power to suppress
    damaging personal info. But he's not pres now, he's in a very nasty
    campaign opposed by those who *do* have power to release this
    material, and yet they have not.

    To me, this implies it's either non-existent, or not very damaging. Or
    possibly that their own personal ethics make them keep it hidden.

    But in any event, it's not being used against him at the time it would
    be most useful to his opponents.

    What am I missing here?

    It could be that the information is so explosive it would be damaging to
    both Trump *and* powerful Dems.  Thus, neither side wants it released.

    Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!
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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to sawfish666@gmail.com on Wed Sep 18 15:23:03 2024
    In article <YHtGO.73256$lZG8.46708@fx09.ams1>,
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 9/17/24 8:38 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:



    Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

    Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there are
    a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of libertarianism
    out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own unique form.  I
    think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.  What makes you say
    that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold that lead you to
    identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick question, I'm genuinely
    curious.

    Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
    just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.

    ;^)

    Now for a serious question...

    Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
    anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_anarchism

    Scall, you know, or ought to know, I'm not attempting to bait you. I've >thought about the lineage of libertarianism and it seemed to me that it
    may have derived from political anarchism.

    We all want to be free. But we also live in communities.

    To be sure, anarchism /= anarchy. Therefore, there should be no
    *negative* connotation to anarchism, as there is with anarchy.

    Wait, so this means divide anarchism by anarchy and store the result in anarchism? :-)

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Wed Sep 18 18:45:31 2024
    On 9/18/2024 12:39 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/17/24 8:38 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:



    Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

    Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there
    are a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of
    libertarianism out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own
    unique form.  I think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.
    What makes you say that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold
    that lead you to identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick
    question, I'm genuinely curious.

    Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
    just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.

    ;^)

    Now for a serious question...

    Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
    anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?

    No, I do not. State and local rights and laws exist in the Libertarian platform.
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Wed Sep 18 18:43:30 2024
    On 9/18/2024 12:39 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/17/24 8:38 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:



    Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

    Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there
    are a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of
    libertarianism out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own
    unique form.  I think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.
    What makes you say that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold
    that lead you to identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick
    question, I'm genuinely curious.

    Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
    just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.

    ;^)

    Now for a serious question...

    Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
    anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_anarchism

    Scall, you know, or ought to know, I'm not attempting to bait you. I've thought about the lineage of libertarianism and it seemed to me that it
    may have derived from political anarchism.

    To be sure, anarchism /= anarchy.  Therefore, there should be no
    *negative* connotation to anarchism, as there is with anarchy.

    --Sawfish

    I am Libertarian for several reasons. One, I have no confidence in the
    GOP or Dems balancing the budget. Two, I believe that the power should
    be in the hands of towns, counties, and states as opposed to the federal government (I want my tax dollars being spent locally as opposed to
    across the country or in other countries). Three, I value personal
    freedom instead of a bureaucracy telling me how to live and endlessly
    taxing me. Four, federal regulations have allowed (i.e. supported)
    monopolies to exist that beat down competition and invaded our privacy.

    Those are some off the top of my head.
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