I'm not asking when/if they decide to drop all old posts, but
currently, they still support their archive and I wonder how far
back
it goes.
At one point I had heard (read?) 25 years and I played around
with
this without ever really coming to closure. Today, I did a bunch
of
narrowing searches for "Sawfish" posts and the earliest on I
found was
6/6/98. This is approximately 26 years 4 months. Also, the
context of
this post *looks* as if I had already been posting for a while,
leading me to think that nothing earlier still exists due to a
cut-off
date.
Too, I had posted much earlier--maybe as early as '94?--under
two
different handles, but searches for posts under those handles
turned
up nothing.
Does anyone have definitive info on the earliest dates of RST
posts
they can find?
I think google's archive is as close to canonical as is publicly
available, but I could be wrong. I have archives locally in a
database from 2003 forward. It's nice because it affords some
better searching capabilities than google groups interface. But,
it's also a bit of extra maintenance, and if my provider reindexes
messages I have to adjust. I had hoped archive.org would either
buy Google's archive or Google would donate it. Honestly,
text-only archives of usenet is a drop in the bucket storage-wise.
It seems like a no-brainer to keep messages from the dawn of the
internet safe from a fickle company like Google.
On 10/8/24 6:27 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <87jzei4brs.fsf@gmail.com>, jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
I'm not asking when/if they decide to drop all old posts, but
currently, they still support their archive and I wonder how far
back
it goes.
At one point I had heard (read?) 25 years and I played around
with
this without ever really coming to closure. Today, I did a bunch
of
narrowing searches for "Sawfish" posts and the earliest on I
found was
6/6/98. This is approximately 26 years 4 months. Also, the
context of
this post *looks* as if I had already been posting for a while,
leading me to think that nothing earlier still exists due to a
cut-off
date.
Too, I had posted much earlier--maybe as early as '94?--under
two
different handles, but searches for posts under those handles
turned
up nothing.
Does anyone have definitive info on the earliest dates of RST
posts
they can find?
I think google's archive is as close to canonical as is publicly
available, but I could be wrong. I have archives locally in a
database from 2003 forward. It's nice because it affords some
better searching capabilities than google groups interface. But,
it's also a bit of extra maintenance, and if my provider reindexes
messages I have to adjust. I had hoped archive.org would either
buy Google's archive or Google would donate it. Honestly,
text-only archives of usenet is a drop in the bucket storage-wise.
It seems like a no-brainer to keep messages from the dawn of the
internet safe from a fickle company like Google.
I was able to find RST posts from 1991 on GG.
Good info. It'll give me more to work with.
I assume you did a search on *any* user, and specified start date as >01/01/01, or something like that?
I'm not asking when/if they decide to drop all old posts, but currently,
they still support their archive and I wonder how far back it goes.
At one point I had heard (read?) 25 years and I played around with this without ever really coming to closure. Today, I did a bunch of narrowing searches for "Sawfish" posts and the earliest on I found was 6/6/98.
This is approximately 26 years 4 months. Also, the context of this post *looks* as if I had already been posting for a while, leading me to
think that nothing earlier still exists due to a cut-off date.
Too, I had posted much earlier--maybe as early as '94?--under two
different handles, but searches for posts under those handles turned up nothing.
Does anyone have definitive info on the earliest dates of RST posts they
can find?
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
I'm not asking when/if they decide to drop all old posts, but
currently, they still support their archive and I wonder how far
back
it goes.
At one point I had heard (read?) 25 years and I played around
with
this without ever really coming to closure. Today, I did a bunch
of
narrowing searches for "Sawfish" posts and the earliest on I
found was
6/6/98. This is approximately 26 years 4 months. Also, the
context of
this post *looks* as if I had already been posting for a while,
leading me to think that nothing earlier still exists due to a
cut-off
date.
Too, I had posted much earlier--maybe as early as '94?--under
two
different handles, but searches for posts under those handles
turned
up nothing.
Does anyone have definitive info on the earliest dates of RST
posts
they can find?
I think google's archive is as close to canonical as is publicly
available, but I could be wrong. I have archives locally in a
database from 2003 forward. It's nice because it affords some
better searching capabilities than google groups interface. But,
it's also a bit of extra maintenance, and if my provider reindexes
messages I have to adjust. I had hoped archive.org would either
buy Google's archive or Google would donate it. Honestly,
text-only archives of usenet is a drop in the bucket storage-wise.
It seems like a no-brainer to keep messages from the dawn of the
internet safe from a fickle company like Google.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/8/24 6:40 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 10/8/24 6:27 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <87jzei4brs.fsf@gmail.com>, jdeluiseGood info. It'll give me more to work with.
<jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
I'm not asking when/if they decide to drop all old posts, but
currently, they still support their archive and I wonder how far
back
it goes.
At one point I had heard (read?) 25 years and I played around
with
this without ever really coming to closure. Today, I did a bunch
of
narrowing searches for "Sawfish" posts and the earliest on I
found was
6/6/98. This is approximately 26 years 4 months. Also, the
context of
this post *looks* as if I had already been posting for a while,
leading me to think that nothing earlier still exists due to a
cut-off
date.
Too, I had posted much earlier--maybe as early as '94?--under
two
different handles, but searches for posts under those handles
turned
up nothing.
Does anyone have definitive info on the earliest dates of RST
posts
they can find?
I think google's archive is as close to canonical as is publicly
available, but I could be wrong. I have archives locally in a
database from 2003 forward. It's nice because it affords some
better searching capabilities than google groups interface. But,
it's also a bit of extra maintenance, and if my provider reindexes
messages I have to adjust. I had hoped archive.org would either
buy Google's archive or Google would donate it. Honestly,
text-only archives of usenet is a drop in the bucket storage-wise.
It seems like a no-brainer to keep messages from the dawn of the
internet safe from a fickle company like Google.
I was able to find RST posts from 1991 on GG.
I assume you did a search on *any* user, and specified start date as
01/01/01, or something like that?
It's weird.
I did a similar search for Whisper as I did for myself, since off the
top of my head I *think* he was on RST at the time I started, but
according to GG search, he first comes up 10/19/2000, and the context
again seems like he may have posted earlier.
Is anyone aware of any known gaps or issues with the GG archive? Was
it known to be incomplete? Maybe stuff got lost on the transition from
DejaNews to GG?
So I posted for a while as "Makule Fool", then later as "Cloudburst",
and I see none of that. My best guess is that Makule Fool was maybe
94-95, and Cloudburst for a brief period either before or after
that. The sigfile was something like "Stay dry, kids!".
Not important, just interesting (to me).
This all comes from jd mentioning a guy named Hazlewood, whom I very
vaguely recall.
As an aside, when I went back to my early stuff, most posts in RST
were indeed about tennis and tennis techniques. It was interesting to
read the drivel I was posting... ;^)
Personally, I think the search function in the latest iteration of the
GG interface is buggy. I feel like I used to be able to search with a
lot more precision, but now it seems to return a lot of irrelevant
results. Ironic since it's google.
jdeluise kirjoitti 9.10.2024 klo 5.38:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/8/24 6:40 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 10/8/24 6:27 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <87jzei4brs.fsf@gmail.com>, jdeluiseGood info. It'll give me more to work with.
<jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
I'm not asking when/if they decide to drop all old posts, but
currently, they still support their archive and I wonder how far >>>>>>> back
it goes.
At one point I had heard (read?) 25 years and I played around
with
this without ever really coming to closure. Today, I did a bunch >>>>>>> of
narrowing searches for "Sawfish" posts and the earliest on I
found was
6/6/98. This is approximately 26 years 4 months. Also, the
context of
this post *looks* as if I had already been posting for a while,
leading me to think that nothing earlier still exists due to a
cut-off
date.
Too, I had posted much earlier--maybe as early as '94?--under
two
different handles, but searches for posts under those handles
turned
up nothing.
Does anyone have definitive info on the earliest dates of RST
posts
they can find?
I think google's archive is as close to canonical as is publicly
available, but I could be wrong. I have archives locally in a
database from 2003 forward. It's nice because it affords some
better searching capabilities than google groups interface. But,
it's also a bit of extra maintenance, and if my provider reindexes >>>>>> messages I have to adjust. I had hoped archive.org would either
buy Google's archive or Google would donate it. Honestly,
text-only archives of usenet is a drop in the bucket storage-wise. >>>>>> It seems like a no-brainer to keep messages from the dawn of the
internet safe from a fickle company like Google.
I was able to find RST posts from 1991 on GG.
I assume you did a search on *any* user, and specified start date as
01/01/01, or something like that?
It's weird.
I did a similar search for Whisper as I did for myself, since off the
top of my head I *think* he was on RST at the time I started, but
according to GG search, he first comes up 10/19/2000, and the context
again seems like he may have posted earlier.
Is anyone aware of any known gaps or issues with the GG archive? Was
it known to be incomplete? Maybe stuff got lost on the transition from
DejaNews to GG?
So I posted for a while as "Makule Fool", then later as "Cloudburst",
and I see none of that. My best guess is that Makule Fool was maybe
94-95, and Cloudburst for a brief period either before or after
that. The sigfile was something like "Stay dry, kids!".
Not important, just interesting (to me).
This all comes from jd mentioning a guy named Hazlewood, whom I very
vaguely recall.
As an aside, when I went back to my early stuff, most posts in RST
were indeed about tennis and tennis techniques. It was interesting to
read the drivel I was posting... ;^)
Personally, I think the search function in the latest iteration of the
GG interface is buggy. I feel like I used to be able to search with a
lot more precision, but now it seems to return a lot of irrelevant
results. Ironic since it's google.
I think google in general returns more irrelevant results nowadays.
Also pic search seems to be fucked up. Maps not on front page & return
some unusable private maps the last I looked.
Google AI, Gemini, hasn't really gotten much smarter either.
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