• Re:Tennis Channel removes Jon Wertheim for inappropriate remark

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Nov 12 08:16:02 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    No, it wasn't sexual. He joked about Krejcikova's forehead... Boy, Court_1 wouldn't have lasted a day on that job.https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tennis-channel-removes-jon-wertheim-190337340.html




    Why aren't tennis players removed from their jobs after they commit an error?

    Their job is to hit balls correctly, once they fail, they should be removed, no?


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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 20:10:25 2024
    On 12/11/2024 6:16 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    No, it wasn't sexual. He joked about Krejcikova's forehead... Boy, Court_1 wouldn't have lasted a day on that job.https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tennis-channel-removes-jon-wertheim-190337340.html




    Why aren't tennis players removed from their jobs after they commit an error?

    Their job is to hit balls correctly, once they fail, they should be removed, no?




    It's not really an error, she does have a big forehead. It's not a
    negative, she can say it's because she has a big brain and some people
    like big foreheads, gives them a bigger target for facials.

    This is the great thing about usenet, you can still say anything you
    like and crack inappropriate jokes. Whatever happened to 'sticks and
    stones' etc?

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Nov 12 20:06:56 2024
    On 12/11/2024 5:25 pm, jdeluise wrote:

    No, it wasn't sexual.  He joked about Krejcikova's forehead... Boy,
    Court_1 wouldn't have lasted a day on that job.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tennis-channel-removes-jon- wertheim-190337340.html


    This is why Trump won and is so popular with ordinary people. The
    alternative is vote for people who react like this to a joke that was
    obviously made for off air.

    If Trump is the only alternative to woke then he'll just keep on being
    popular. What's the alternative?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Whisper on Tue Nov 12 10:40:53 2024
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 12/11/2024 6:16 pm, *skriptis wrote:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> No, it wasn't sexual. He joked about Krejcikova's forehead... Boy, Court_1 wouldn't have lasted a day on that job.https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tennis-channel-
    removes-jon-wertheim-190337340.html> > > > > Why aren't tennis players removed from their jobs after they commit an error?> > Their job is to hit balls correctly, once they fail, they should be removed, no?> > It's not really an error, she does have a
    big forehead. It's not a negative, she can say it's because she has a big brain and some people like big foreheads, gives them a bigger target for facials.This is the great thing about usenet, you can still say anything you like and crack inappropriate
    jokes. Whatever happened to 'sticks and stones' etc?



    Hingis also has a big forehead and it's kinda Slavic feature I'd say among western Slavs?


    This situation is very clear imo.


    It's not his job to comment on players' looks, that would have been a bad taste and really not his job, we can't have commentators saying player xy is ugly, especially since some fans might consider those players hot.

    That's directly insulting taste of some of the viewers and fans and that's inexcusable.

    So if he or anyone else does that, they should receive a warning if they do it while commenting.

    No brainer.



    Otoh this was his private joke that accidentally went on-air right?

    You can't really punish him for the thing he said, since he didn't say it "officially" on-air.

    You can't really force or control people what they say, think, or joke among themselves.

    So he should apologise for lack of professionalism, letting his private chat going on-air, and that's about it.

    I mean, I see it no different than if he said he had massive diarrhea this morning and explaining it in detail to his colleagues.

    I don't want to hear that.



    You punish/warn him for this stuff getting out, not for the content itself.

    Very important to distinguish it, imo.


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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to jdeluise@gmail.com on Wed Nov 13 01:40:55 2024
    In article <87frnxklyj.fsf@gmail.com>, jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:

    No, it wasn't sexual. He joked about Krejcikova's forehead...
    Boy, Court_1 wouldn't have lasted a day on that job.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tennis-channel-removes-jon-wertheim-190337340.html

    I first read this as "forehand" :-)

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 13 18:38:55 2024
    On 11/12/2024 3:40 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 12/11/2024 6:16 pm, *skriptis wrote:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> No, it wasn't sexual. He joked about Krejcikova's forehead... Boy, Court_1 wouldn't have lasted a day on that job.https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tennis-channel-
    removes-jon-wertheim-190337340.html> > > > > Why aren't tennis players removed from their jobs after they commit an error?> > Their job is to hit balls correctly, once they fail, they should be removed, no?> > It's not really an error, she does have a
    big forehead. It's not a negative, she can say it's because she has a big brain and some people like big foreheads, gives them a bigger target for facials.This is the great thing about usenet, you can still say anything you like and crack inappropriate
    jokes. Whatever happened to 'sticks and stones' etc?

    Hingis also has a big forehead and it's kinda Slavic feature I'd say among western Slavs?

    This situation is very clear imo.

    It's not his job to comment on players' looks, that would have been a bad taste and really not his job, we can't have commentators saying player xy is ugly, especially since some fans might consider those players hot.

    That's directly insulting taste of some of the viewers and fans and that's inexcusable.

    So if he or anyone else does that, they should receive a warning if they do it while commenting.

    No brainer.

    Otoh this was his private joke that accidentally went on-air right?

    You can't really punish him for the thing he said, since he didn't say it "officially" on-air.

    You can't really force or control people what they say, think, or joke among themselves.

    So he should apologise for lack of professionalism, letting his private chat going on-air, and that's about it.

    I mean, I see it no different than if he said he had massive diarrhea this morning and explaining it in detail to his colleagues.

    I don't want to hear that.

    You punish/warn him for this stuff getting out, not for the content itself.

    Very important to distinguish it, imo.

    No tears for Jon here; he works for the woke TV show "60 Minutes" that
    is constantly undermining GOP politicians. Even when caught red handed,
    the show double-downs and says that they did nothing wrong.

    Live by the woke sword, die by the woke sword...
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Nov 14 19:10:45 2024
    On 11/14/2024 12:47 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    No tears for Jon here; he works for the woke TV show "60 Minutes" that
    is constantly undermining GOP politicians. Even when caught red
    handed, the show double-downs and says that they did nothing wrong.

    Live by the woke sword, die by the woke sword...

    Yeah, the GOP does enough to undermine itself.  Epstein's best friend
    for 10 years just nominated another likely sex trafficker for AG.

    Not sure about that because I honestly have no clue. But you know many
    Demos are (supposedly) on Epstein's list too...

    How is your tennis game doing?
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Fri Nov 15 14:41:52 2024
    On 11/14/2024 8:47 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 11/14/2024 12:47 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    No tears for Jon here; he works for the woke TV show "60 Minutes" that >>>> is constantly undermining GOP politicians. Even when caught red
    handed, the show double-downs and says that they did nothing wrong.

    Live by the woke sword, die by the woke sword...
    Yeah, the GOP does enough to undermine itself.  Epstein's best
    friend for 10 years just nominated another likely sex trafficker for
    AG.

    Not sure about that because I honestly have no clue. But you know many
    Demos are (supposedly) on Epstein's list too...

    So, you missed the hundreds of hours of audiotapes released recently
    from interviews with Epstein from 2017 where Epstein said he was Trump's closest friend for 10 years?   And if you're concerned about "60
    Minutes", maybe you should be concerned about how Fox selectively edited footage from an interview where he discussed whether he'd release
    information about the Epstein case if he were elected.

    Like I said, no clue. I don't watch news coverage much. You didn't say
    anything about possible Dems.

    How is your tennis game doing?

    Just fine, how about yours?

    Serve needs consistency. My approach shots today sucked royal. My
    volleys weren't much better. My ground strokes were good though. Thus, I
    was happy on the court.
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Nov 16 14:30:45 2024
    On 11/15/2024 8:17 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 11/14/2024 8:47 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 11/14/2024 12:47 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    No tears for Jon here; he works for the woke TV show "60 Minutes"
    that
    is constantly undermining GOP politicians. Even when caught red
    handed, the show double-downs and says that they did nothing wrong. >>>>>>
    Live by the woke sword, die by the woke sword...
    Yeah, the GOP does enough to undermine itself.  Epstein's best
    friend for 10 years just nominated another likely sex trafficker for >>>>> AG.

    Not sure about that because I honestly have no clue. But you know many >>>> Demos are (supposedly) on Epstein's list too...
    So, you missed the hundreds of hours of audiotapes released recently
    from interviews with Epstein from 2017 where Epstein said he was
    Trump's closest friend for 10 years?   And if you're concerned about
    "60 Minutes", maybe you should be concerned about how Fox
    selectively edited footage from an interview where he discussed
    whether he'd release information about the Epstein case if he were
    elected.

    Like I said, no clue. I don't watch news coverage much.

    btw, if you don't watch the news, how do you know what "60 Minutes" has
    been saying about GOP politicians?

    X
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Nov 16 14:33:42 2024
    On 11/15/2024 2:54 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:


    Like I said, no clue. I don't watch news coverage much. You didn't say
    anything about possible Dems.

    So you're an uninformed voter... not surprising.

    I actually am very informed on the candidates I support, but don't use
    the legacy media when doing my research. I usually use websites devoted
    to non-partisan analysis.

    Example: https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news
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