• Whisper to be banned from RST

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 18:52:14 2024
    Australia's government says it will introduce "world-leading"
    legislation to ban children under 16 from social media.

    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the proposed laws, to be tabled in parliament next week, were aimed at mitigating the "harm" social media
    was inflicting on Australian children.

    "This one is for the mums and dads... They, like me, are worried sick
    about the safety of our kids online. I want Australian families to know
    that the government has your back," he said.

    While many of the details are yet to be debated, the government said the
    ban would apply to young people already on social media.

    There will be no exemptions on the age limit for children who have
    consent from their parents. The government says that the onus would be
    on social media platforms to show they are taking reasonable steps to
    prevent access.

    Albanese said there would be no penalties for users, and that it would
    be up to Australia's online regulator - the eSafety Commissioner - to
    enforce the laws.

    The legislation would come into force 12 months after it passes and be
    subject to a review after it's in place.

    One of Australia's largest advocacy groups for child rights has
    criticised the proposed ban as "too blunt an instrument".

    But other grassroots campaigners have lobbied Australia's government for
    the laws, saying bans are needed to protect children from harmful
    content, misinformation, bullying and other social pressures.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzd62g1r3o

    I think this is a very good idea. I would maybe raise it to 18 so we can
    have an extra two years to prepare for what's coming.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Tue Nov 12 18:16:53 2024
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    [...]
    I think this is a very good idea. I would maybe raise it to 18 so we can
    have an extra two years to prepare for what's coming.

    Limits like this are totally ridiculous. I just told
    my younger friends tonight how free we had it in the 1980s.

    Yes, there were K18 limits ("Kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta")
    , "Forbidden under 18 years of age", VHS videos and films in
    the movie theaters, but nobody gave a fuck about those limits!

    In other words, as 12 year old kids, we could rent absolutely
    all K18 VHS videos and we could enter movie theaters to see
    K18 films.

    The only requirement was that you had the money to rent a
    VHS tape and money to buy a ticket to the movie theatre.

    We should abolish all limits...Nowadays they even have K18
    for certain computer games! That is so stupid!

    br,
    KK

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Tue Nov 12 23:52:41 2024
    On 12.11.2024 20.16, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    [...]
    I think this is a very good idea. I would maybe raise it to 18 so we can
    have an extra two years to prepare for what's coming.

    Limits like this are totally ridiculous. I just told
    my younger friends tonight how free we had it in the 1980s.

    Yes, there were K18 limits ("Kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta")
    , "Forbidden under 18 years of age", VHS videos and films in
    the movie theaters, but nobody gave a fuck about those limits!

    In other words, as 12 year old kids, we could rent absolutely
    all K18 VHS videos and we could enter movie theaters to see
    K18 films.

    The only requirement was that you had the money to rent a
    VHS tape and money to buy a ticket to the movie theatre.

    We should abolish all limits...Nowadays they even have K18
    for certain computer games! That is so stupid!

    I don't know whether you're a God's creation or somebody else's. If the
    latter, that somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Tue Nov 12 22:32:28 2024
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    I don't know whether you're a God's creation
    or somebody else's. If the latter, that
    somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.

    Only losers want to create unnecessary
    rules and limitations for other people.

    This Australian law is supposed to "protect
    children". Hahah! You do not protect children
    by denying them access to parts of reality.

    Instead, it is the responsibility of parents
    to provide proper guidance for their kids. The
    "protection" should come via education and
    discussions, not imposing stupid age limits.

    When we speak of movies and computer games, if
    you are so lame that you cannot stand horror,
    action and suspense, then go watch Mickey Mouse
    movies instead. But avoid the early stuff, it
    might get too suspenseful!

    br,
    KK

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Nov 13 19:55:29 2024
    On 13/11/2024 4:16 pm, jdeluise wrote:
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes:

    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    I don't know whether you're a God's creation
    or somebody else's. If the latter, that
    somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.

    Only losers want to create unnecessary
    rules and limitations for other people.

    This Australian law is supposed to "protect
    children". Hahah! You do not protect children
    by denying them access to parts of reality.

    Instead, it is the responsibility of parents
    to provide proper guidance for their kids. The
    "protection" should come via education and
    discussions, not imposing stupid age limits.

    When we speak of movies and computer games, if
    you are so lame that you cannot stand horror,
    action and suspense, then go watch Mickey Mouse
    movies instead. But avoid the early stuff, it
    might get too suspenseful!

    br,
    KK

    Australia is a nanny state.

    Anyway, it's a pointless system since there is nearly unfettered access
    to anything via the internet.


    Agreed on both points. Legally we can't even change a light fitting,
    has to be a qualified electrician.

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