• Iga Swiatek caught using doping!! Hahah!!!

    From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 18:44:28 2024
    Hello!

    Hot off the press: Iga Swiatek caught using *DOPING*!

    Hahahahaa!

    She claims that she got the forbidden substance
    because it was somehow contained in her perfectly
    legal melatonin pills that help her sleep better.

    Not a surprise to me at all. I have known for some
    time that all the successful athletes are "juiced"
    and our beloved tennis players are no exception
    to this rule. Hahah!

    Iga got a month's ban *now* even though her tests
    were taken already in August. She could have missed
    US Open, but those in power (ITF/WTA) saved her and
    allowed her to play for the rest of the season.

    Now during December 2024 she can enjoy her rest and
    the month long ban will be conveniently over when
    the Aussie Open begins in January 2025. Well done!

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 3 05:14:51 2024
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 2.12.2024 klo 18.27:
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r
    Hello!Hot off the press: Iga Swiatek caught using *DOPING*!Hahahahaa!She claims that she got the forbidden substancebecause it was somehow contained in her perfectlylegal melatonin pills that help her sleep better.Not a surprise to me at all. I have
    known for sometime that all the successful athletes are "juiced"and our beloved tennis players are no exceptionto this rule. Hahah!Iga got a month's ban *now* even though her testswere taken already in August. She could have missedUS Open, but those in
    power (ITF/WTA) saved her andallowed her to play for the rest of the season.Now during December 2024 she can enjoy her rest andthe month long ban will be conveniently over whenthe Aussie Open begins in January 2025. Well done!br,KK


    She concluded that the culprit was her melatonin, which Swiatek has long used, she said, because with "all my traveling, jet lag and work-related stress mean that sometimes without it, I couldn’t fall asleep." She provided both an opened and unopened
    containers of the melatonin to the ITIA, which had them analyzed and found the contamination consistent with the trace amounts of trimetazidine detected in Swiatek's urine sample. Her provisional suspension was lifted and she was able to continue
    competing at the WTA's year-end finals, per the ITIA decision.

    Yeah, contaminated sleeping pills for sure...

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Tue Dec 3 21:27:10 2024
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    Yeah, contaminated sleeping pills for sure...

    Hahahaa! :-)

    Right. It is a totally ridiculous story. But we
    have to understand that ITF, ATP and WTA needed
    *something* to cover up the truth about top level
    athletes.

    2024 will be remembered not only for great tennis
    matches, but also for knowing that both mens' and
    womens' #1 got caught using doping: Jannik Sinner
    and Iga Swiatek.


    ITF, ATP and WTA organizations exist to make profit.

    It is about running a profitable business. They cannot
    simply afford to have their number one heroes to
    fall down. In this money-making game the sponsors also
    play a *huge* part. The spectators worship and idolize
    their heroes, wanting to buy the gear they use and
    so on.

    A while ago I read an article saying that Jannik
    Sinner has signed a 10-yead contract with Nike.

    If I remember right, Sinner will make 159 million USD
    for endorsing Nike. It is mind-boggling!

    Getting caught using doping is not to the liking
    of sponsors, so cover-up stories are needed. The
    stories, of course, are completely hilarious and
    nobody should believe in them.

    Note to ITF, ATP, WTA: You can fool the general
    public, but the enlightened ones can easily see
    through your ridiculous lies.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Dec 5 15:06:32 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
    But if it's such a conspiracy why do they release the test results
    in the first place?

    Those doing testing include a few people who honestly
    want to "burn" dopers. Some of the testing labs
    have been bribed to stay quiet about positive
    doping result, yes, but not all of them.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Dec 5 15:08:28 2024
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
    Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?

    I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Some
    doping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests to
    find out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stay
    quiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Dec 5 19:19:00 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes:

    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
    Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?

    I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Some
    doping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests to
    find out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stay
    quiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.

    OK Courtsie, but where's the evidence?

    Hahahahaa! Let me tell you about some serious
    evidence!

    Both men's #1 and women's #1 were caught using doping
    during 2024. Both of them offered quite ridiculous
    explanations for getting burned. ATP, WTA and ITF let
    them off the hook because their "stars" have to have
    perfectly clean public image. It would be bad for their
    business if it turned out that all their heroes are
    juiced.

    This policy is nothing new. Andre Agassi played many,
    many matches under the influence of methamphetamine.
    When caught, the public was told that Agassi had used meth
    only once and he got caught right away. It takes serious
    stupidity to buy claims like that.

    Like Sinner and Swiatek, Agassi was a top-class tennis
    hero so those in power protected him as well as they
    could. In addition to ATP and ITF, megabrand Nike was
    also involved. Those Agassi clothes and shoes sold
    like crazy so damage to Agassi's reputation had to be
    minimized. Being exposed as a doper is bad for business
    since many people believe that atheles should be clean.

    Lesser players like Mikael Ymer are expendable. That's
    why the Swede got a ban that lasts for 18 months - just
    for missing three doping tests!

    Have you ever followed Tour De France? Do you suppose
    that the top cyclists can complete the Tour while being
    clean? If you said "Yes", then think again.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Fri Dec 6 20:06:36 2024
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Somedoping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests tofind out dopers. Some testing
    labs have been bribed to stayquiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.br,KK

    Some tests are while others aren't, I see :).
    And this took your highly intellect brain like five seconds while
    sitting on the toilet to fix the holes in your previous story
    :)

    There are absolutely no holes in my story. Like I said,
    some testing labs have people working in them that truly
    want to catch doping users. Sinner and Swiatek got burned
    precisely because the labs in question were honest. The
    crooks are ATP, WTA and ITF. They love to spread their fairy
    tales about their athletes being clean.

    Not long ago, someone from ATP circles came out with his
    story: Roughly 50% of Top 100 men tennis players have
    ADHD diagnosis. This means they are free to use amphetamine
    based "medication" to treat their ADHD. This is jus one
    form of doping that our heroes use.

    As a adults, we should no longer believe in fairy tales.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Fri Dec 6 20:00:40 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
    So you got 'nuffin but strawmen and smokescreens. As expected.
    *rolls eyes*

    Some people like to believe in fairy tales, even as adults.

    Top level athletes being clean is one of those fairy tales
    that some childish adults like to believe in.

    br,
    KK

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sat Dec 7 03:52:32 2024
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?I just replied to this question, but
    to re-iterate: Somedoping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests tofind out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stayquiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.br,KK> > Some tests are while others aren't, I see :).>
    And this took your highly intellect brain like five seconds while> sitting on the toilet to fix the holes in your previous story> :)There are absolutely no holes in my story. Like I said,some testing labs have people working in them that trulywant to
    catch doping users. Sinner and Swiatek got burnedprecisely because the labs in question were honest. Thecrooks are ATP, WTA and ITF. They love to spread their fairytales about their athletes being clean.Not long ago, someone from ATP circles came out
    with hisstory: Roughly 50% of Top 100 men tennis players haveADHD diagnosis. This means they are free to use amphetaminebased "medication" to treat their ADHD. This is jus oneform of doping that our heroes use.As a adults, we should no longer believe in
    fairy tales.br,KK




    Yeah compare

    https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/tandon-a-closer-look-at-serena-williams-therapeutic-use-exemptions


    To

    https://www.vox.com/2016/3/9/11187168/sharapova-meldonium-doping-explainer



    Both have used substances, then at one point Sharapova's doping became illegal, she or her team failed to update and she got caught, lol.







    Serena article:


    In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF. These were made public when Russian hackers broke into the World Anti-doping Agency (WADA) database and released confidential data on 29 athletes,
    including TUEs for Williams and other tennis players including Venus Williams, Rafael Nadal and Petra Kvitova.

    There is no suggestion that Williams has broken any rules. Within specific requirements, WADA allows athletes to use otherwise banned substances for medical purposes.

    But the TUEs Williams was granted between 2014 and 2015 could indicate a need to re-examine the system, according to a leading anti-doping expert, though more information is required to assess whether any errors occurred during the process.





    Now this is absurd.

    I like Nadal but with proper anti-doping rules he probably would not have won 14 FOs.

    These top athletes destroy and waste their bodies to win titles, become stars, and then tennis officials allow them to dope, to recover better and sooner so that tennis could benefit from having huge stars. Logic is there.


    But it's a fair point to say if some are allowed, then everyone should be allowed to do it, no?



    I'd say if Nadal doped legally and everyone else was allowed the same, he still wins 14 FOs.

    But without doping and ability to recover better and sooner, in a fully clean sport, he likely doesn't win 14 FOs?

    He'd still be better than everyone mostly but would not be able to do it, purely physically.



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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Sat Dec 7 20:22:45 2024
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    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?I just replied to this question, but
    to re-iterate: Somedoping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests tofind out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stayquiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.br,KK> > Some tests are while others aren't, I see :).>
    And this took your highly intellect brain like five seconds while> sitting on the toilet to fix the holes in your previous story> :)There are absolutely no holes in my story. Like I said,some testing labs have people working in them that trulywant to
    catch doping users. Sinner and Swiatek got burnedprecisely because the labs in question were honest. Thecrooks are ATP, WTA and ITF. They love to spread their fairytales about their athletes being clean.Not long ago, someone from ATP circles came out
    with hisstory: Roughly 50% of Top 100 men tennis players haveADHD diagnosis. This means they are free to use amphetaminebased "medication" to treat their ADHD. This is jus oneform of doping that our heroes use.As a adults, we should no longer believe in
    fairy tales.br,KK




    Yeah compare

    https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/tandon-a-closer-look-at-serena-williams-therapeutic-use-exemptions


    To

    https://www.vox.com/2016/3/9/11187168/sharapova-meldonium-doping-explainer



    Both have used substances, then at one point Sharapova's doping became illegal, she or her team failed to update and she got caught, lol.



    Serena article:


    In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF. These were made public when Russian hackers broke into the World Anti-doping Agency (WADA) database and released confidential data on 29 athletes,
    including TUEs for Williams and other tennis players including Venus Williams, Rafael Nadal and Petra Kvitova.

    There is no suggestion that Williams has broken any rules. Within specific requirements, WADA allows athletes to use otherwise banned substances for medical purposes.

    But the TUEs Williams was granted between 2014 and 2015 could indicate a need to re-examine the system, according to a leading anti-doping expert, though more information is required to assess whether any errors occurred during the process.





    Now this is absurd.

    I like Nadal but with proper anti-doping rules he probably would not have won 14 FOs.

    These top athletes destroy and waste their bodies to win titles, become stars, and then tennis officials allow them to dope, to recover better and sooner so that tennis could benefit from having huge stars. Logic is there.


    But it's a fair point to say if some are allowed, then everyone should be allowed to do it, no?



    I'd say if Nadal doped legally and everyone else was allowed the same, he still wins 14 FOs.

    But without doping and ability to recover better and sooner, in a fully clean sport, he likely doesn't win 14 FOs?

    He'd still be better than everyone mostly but would not be able to do it, purely physically.

    https://7news.com.au/sport/tennis/dozens-of-top-tennis-players-embroiled-in-doping-scandal-as-shock-ban-opens-can-of-worms-c-9025717

    Hahahah!

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Dec 7 20:17:39 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
    Again this is just a strawman. The topic is not whether top
    athletes dope (I think many do, probably not all), it's whether
    there is a vast conspiracy to HIDE complicity with these athletes
    by the ITIA/ITF. I asked you why would the ITIA even bring up the
    positive drug test and present it to a tribunal if they were
    complicit from the beginning. You have failed to address that
    besides creating your own unfounded fairy tales about bribery.

    I get it now. I guess ITIA has some honest workers among
    the traitors.

    br,
    KK

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