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  • Trump threatens to take back control of Panama Canal

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 17:06:30 2024
    United States President-elect Donald Trump has threatened to demand
    control of the Panama Canal after accusing Panama of charging excessive
    rates on US ships passing through one of the busiest waterways in the world.

    “Our Navy and Commerce have been treated in a very unfair and
    injudicious way. The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform on Saturday.

    “This complete ‘rip-off’ of our Country will immediately stop.”

    The US largely built the canal in 1914 and administrated territory
    surrounding the passage for decades. But Washington fully handed control
    of the canal to Panama in 1999 after a period of joint administration.

    Trump also hinted at China’s growing influence around the canal, which connects the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans.

    “It was solely for Panama to manage, not China, or anyone else,” he
    said. “We would and will NEVER let it fall into the wrong hands!”

    The post was an exceedingly rare example of a US leader saying he could
    push a sovereign country to hand over territory.

    “It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama. If the moral and legal principles of
    this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand
    that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question,” Trump said.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/22/trump-threatens-to-take-back-control-of-panama-canal-over-ridiculous-fees

    If Panama and Gina are friendskies, I think it's only fair that Gina has
    a say on who gets to pay. What's Twump going to do about it? Start a ...
    WAR?

    --
    “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.
    -- Nikki Haley

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 22:33:11 2025
    On 22/12/2024 17.06, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    United States President-elect Donald Trump has threatened to demand
    control of the Panama Canal after accusing Panama of charging excessive
    rates on US ships passing through one of the busiest waterways in the
    world.

    “Our Navy and Commerce have been treated in a very unfair and
    injudicious way. The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform on Saturday.

    “This complete ‘rip-off’ of our Country will immediately stop.”

    The US largely built the canal in 1914 and administrated territory surrounding the passage for decades. But Washington fully handed control
    of the canal to Panama in 1999 after a period of joint administration.

    Trump also hinted at China’s growing influence around the canal, which connects the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans.

    “It was solely for Panama to manage, not China, or anyone else,” he
    said. “We would and will NEVER let it fall into the wrong hands!”

    The post was an exceedingly rare example of a US leader saying he could
    push a sovereign country to hand over territory.

    “It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama. If the moral and legal principles of
    this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand
    that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question,” Trump said.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/22/trump-threatens-to-take-back-control-of-panama-canal-over-ridiculous-fees

    If Panama and Gina are friendskies, I think it's only fair that Gina has
    a say on who gets to pay. What's Twump going to do about it? Start a ...
    WAR?

    Well, it's beginning to look like it. The felon said he's going to take
    the canal back. He didn't say he's going to negotiate or play a round of
    poker over it. He said "take".

    Very belligerent. If I was a wig in Panama, I'd be off to Beijing for
    some missiles and close the canal for US vessels as a security measure.
    Pronto prontissimo. And maybe sign a mutual aid agreement with Kim.

    --
    “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.
    -- Nikki Haley

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 21 15:33:44 2025
    TT kirjoitti 21.1.2025 klo 15.32:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 21.1.2025 klo 7.39:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    Trump's talking language is his wishes and threats. I still have
     to see him follow through any of them.

    But this time around he doesn't have to worry about laws, the
    constitution, or any other "coequal" branch of government.

    Was quite a day.

    Trump really not wasting time. Some good things, some questionable.

    Tariff committee - bad
    Tik tok extension - ok
    Panama - ridiculous
    Illegal immigrant stuff - good
    Quitting green new deal & Paris accord, drill baby drill - good & bad Withdrawing from WHO - Probably bad


    Cancelling DEI - excellent!

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 21 15:32:21 2025
    jdeluise kirjoitti 21.1.2025 klo 7.39:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    Trump's talking language is his wishes and threats. I still have
     to see him follow through any of them.

    But this time around he doesn't have to worry about laws, the
    constitution, or any other "coequal" branch of government.

    Was quite a day.

    Trump really not wasting time. Some good things, some questionable.

    Tariff committee - bad
    Tik tok extension - ok
    Panama - ridiculous
    Illegal immigrant stuff - good
    Quitting green new deal & Paris accord, drill baby drill - good & bad Withdrawing from WHO - Probably bad

    What am I forgetting... Melania's hat? Scamming the public with Trump &
    Melania cryptos? No direct mention on Ukraine?

    Anyway, Trump spent half the time of his speech lambasting Biden's administration, which was really poor form for the occasion & Biden
    sitting few feet away. There's something seriously wrong mentally with
    this guy.

    Then Trump undid everything from Biden's term with executive orders. Did
    same to Obama, just not in front of his face at inauguration.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Jan 21 16:19:37 2025
    On 21/01/2025 7.39, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    Trump's talking language is his wishes and threats. I still have
     to see him follow through any of them.

    But this time around he doesn't have to worry about laws, the
    constitution, or any other "coequal" branch of government.

    Or getting reëlected.

    In the first season, the felon settled for the Korean peninsula
    "de-nuking" types of third world autocrat displays in return. Will he
    settle for those this time?

    However that may be, the put-Panama-first wig at the other end is not a
    Twump whisperer. He has to take these threats at face value. Otherwise,
    he's a former put-Panama-first wig.

    Buying satellite intel and aircraft carrier sinking missiles from China
    is a good start. You need to have a deterrent. "Up them costs!" Nuking
    it up is always a good insurance policy against these rogue states. I
    bet Iran is working double shifts.

    --
    “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.
    -- Nikki Haley

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