• Palestinians and Arab states reject Trump's Gaza takeover proposal

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 17:45:06 2025
    The Palestinian president has said he strongly rejects President Donald
    Trump's proposal for the US to take over Gaza and permanently resettle
    the 2.1 million Palestinians living there.

    "We will not allow the rights of our people... to be infringed on,"
    Mahmoud Abbas stressed, warning that Gaza was "an integral part of the
    State of Palestine" and forced displacement would be a serious violation
    of international law.

    Hamas, whose 15-month war with Israel has caused widespread devastation,
    said Trump's plan would "put oil on the fire" in the region.

    Arab states also rejected the idea, with Saudi Arabia reiterating it
    would not normalise ties with Israel without the establishment of a
    Palestinian state.

    Neighbouring Egypt, who had rejected Trump's suggestion last month that
    it and Jordan take in residents of Gaza, stressed the need for
    reconstruction "without moving the Palestinians".

    It comes two weeks after the start of a fragile ceasefire in Gaza,
    during which Hamas has released some Israeli hostages it is holding in
    exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.

    The Israeli military launched a campaign to destroy Hamas in response to
    an unprecedented cross-border attack on 7 October 2023, in which about
    1,200 people were killed and 251 were taken hostage.

    More than 47,540 people have been killed and 111,600 injured in Gaza
    since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.

    Most of Gaza's population has also been displaced multiple times, almost
    70% of buildings are estimated to be damaged or destroyed, the
    healthcare, water, sanitation and hygiene systems have collapsed, and
    there are shortages of food, fuel, medicine and shelter.

    President Trump's first major remarks on Middle East policy shattered
    decades of US thinking on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    He presented them at the White House on Tuesday night alongside visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    "The US will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it
    too," he said. "We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of
    the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the
    site, and get rid of the destroyed buildings."

    Trump estimated that about 1.8 million Palestinians living in Gaza would
    have to be relocated to achieve his vision of creating "the Riviera of
    the Middle East", and said they would be housed in Jordan, Egypt and
    other countries.

    When asked whether the refugees would eventually be allowed to return,
    he said that "the world's people" would live in Gaza, before adding
    "also Palestinians".

    Trump also brushed aside previous objections from Jordan and Egypt's
    leaders to taking in refugees, insisting that they would eventually
    "open their hearts and will give us the kind of land that we need to get
    this done".

    Netanyahu said Trump's proposal could "change history" and was "worth
    paying attention to", adding: "This is the kind of thinking that will
    reshape the Middle East and bring peace."

    A unnamed senior Israeli official was also quoted as saying that Trump's
    ideas surpassed all his "expectations and dreams".

    However, the Palestinian leadership condemned the plan in a statement
    issued on Wednesday.

    "These calls represent a serious violation of international law,"
    President Abbas said, adding that "peace and stability will not be
    achieved in the region without the establishment of a Palestinian state".

    Abbas leads Hamas rivals Fatah and governs parts of the Israeli-occupied
    West Bank.

    He declared that Palestinians would not "give up their land, rights, and
    sacred sites" and that "the Gaza Strip is an integral part of the land
    of the State of Palestine, along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem".

    Palestinians in Gaza also said the plan was completely out of the question.

    "We have endured nearly a year and a half of bombings and destruction,
    yet we remain in Gaza," one man told BBC Arabic.

    "We would rather die in Gaza than leave it. We will stay here until we
    rebuild it. Trump can do as he pleases, but we firmly reject his decisions."

    Western governments also expressed alarm about any forced displacement.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gw89x8x11o

    Trump should get some sleep. He's getting to be an embarrassment.

    The amusement park in Birkenau, make that Gaza, will not be a Riviera.
    It will be a prime target for all kinds of pilgrims dreaming of Jeannie.
    So will the US itself.

    The Finnskies hardly mind though if the 2M are transported to Finland.
    There's tons of space there nobody wants to live in. If Twump takes this
    up with the present leaders of Finland, I'm sure they will all "Jawohl!"
    it. With the birthrates being what they are, in 10 years Finnskies will
    be an ethnic minority weeping for their lost culture. If there ever was one.

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    “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.
    -- Nikki Haley

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Wed Feb 5 15:53:28 2025
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    The Finnskies hardly mind though if the 2M are transported to Finland.

    Fuck you, Pelle. I really enjoy your stupid whining while
    Mr. Trump kicks ass. Hahah!

    br,
    KK

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Thu Feb 6 16:39:15 2025
    On 05/02/2025 17.53, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    The Finnskies hardly mind though if the 2M are transported to Finland.

    Fuck you, Pelle. I really enjoy your stupid whining while
    Mr. Trump kicks ass. Hahah!

    Trump kicks Palestinian ass to up north. For your amusement. Then he'll redecorate their homes with polka dot curtains and'll take them back.

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    “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.
    -- Nikki Haley

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