https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7
In article <vpt14g$3pufl$1@dont-email.me>,PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7That's for sure.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7
PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7
Yes, totally disgusting.
US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!
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In article <vpt14g$3pufl$1@dont-email.me>,PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7That's for sure.
You don't feel offended when Jew Zelensky who is in his 6th year of his 5-year term tells you, your country
"you're gonna feel it"?
Feel what?
Trump slammed him good at 01:15 after that.
I'm glad I've lived to see this.
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TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7> >Yes, totally disgusting.US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!Trump is a real
dickhead. Vance is like a poisonous, slimy snake.Btw, here's Zelensky's Fox News interview AFTER the oval office
fiasco.He's a pretty good guy...https://youtu.be/GfqLcBwUT_E?si=W90fnf1kBr7QYkjK
I watched the interview, he is very presidential and a good guy (not sure why I said this, probably because of
what I watched today)..
Then after he gets humiliated and insulted he gets asked why he isn't wearing a suit :) ).
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> On 3/1/25 7:56 AM, bmoore wrote:> In article <vptnnu$3tp07$1@dont-email.me>,> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>> -=-=-=-=-=->>>> TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r>>> PeteWasLuckykirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7> >>> Yes, totally disgusting.US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!Trump is a real>> dickhead. Vance is like a poisonous, slimy snake.
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:rshould have stopped being the "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far less if that had happened...-- ---------------Scall5
On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>> > Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!The USA
Maybe you know or you don't, that 70% of USA aids to Ukraine or other countries end up being paid to businesses in USA.
Also USA can't stop playing its role as the world leader otherwise it will vanish as a super power to other super power nations.
In article <vptnnu$3tp07$1@dont-email.me>,
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
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TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7> >Yes, totally disgusting.US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!Trump is a real
dickhead. Vance is like a poisonous, slimy snake.Btw, here's Zelensky's Fox News interview AFTER the oval office
fiasco.He's a pretty good guy...https://youtu.be/GfqLcBwUT_E?si=W90fnf1kBr7QYkjK
I watched the interview, he is very presidential and a good guy (not sure why I said this, probably because of
what I watched today)..
Then after he gets humiliated and insulted he gets asked why he isn't wearing a suit :) ).
He comes across well, unlike Putin or Trump, who always wear suits.
Was he derided for not wearing a suit? They way I read it Trump
complimented him right when he got out of the car..."You're all dressed up."
Nor was this said derisively because Zalinsky was wearing a matched and
more formal uniform-like thingie, where he seldom does this.
On 3/2/25 9:55 AM, Sawfish wrote:> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:>> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>>> On 3/1/2025 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> >>>> Wrote in message:r>Sad!The USA should have stopped being the >>>> "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far less if that >>>> had happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you know or you >>>> don't, that 70% of USA aids to Ukraine or other countries end up
On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky >>>> kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>> > >>>> Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a trade >>>> OR defence partner.
business - I give you $1.00 and you pay >>>> me $0.80 for an pear that I grew. So now I am out of a pear AND >>>> $0.20. Not good for the USA...> Also USA can't stop playing its role >>>> as the world leader otherwise it will vanish as a super power to >>being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully aware of this. As I was >>>> informed, in the early 1990's it was something like 80% of the money >>>> sent to Israel resulted in them buying USA manufactured stuff.But >>>> for the USA that is stupid
It has the extended >>> long lines similar to what Saw does at times.>>>> I don't see how I changed anything. I simply stated fasts.> > I think maybe Pete means the formatting, although this is a strange > observation from a guy whose smart phone appother super power nations.Excluding the USA; name one other "super >>>> power" nation than China. I can't: Japan, UK, India, Germany, >>>> Brazil - not super powers...-- ---------------Scall5>>>>>> Oh you changed something while writing this post.
On 3/2/25 8:17 AM, bmoore wrote:
In article <KtHwP.10$4T3c.3@fx08.ams1>, Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/25 7:56 AM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vptnnu$3tp07$1@dont-email.me>,
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
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TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7> >Yes, totally disgusting.US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!Trump is a real
dickhead. Vance is like a poisonous, slimy snake.Btw, here's Zelensky's Fox News interview AFTER the oval office
fiasco.He's a pretty good guy...https://youtu.be/GfqLcBwUT_E?si=W90fnf1kBr7QYkjK
I watched the interview, he is very presidential and a good guy (not sure why I said this, probably because of
what I watched today)..
Then after he gets humiliated and insulted he gets asked why he isn't wearing a suit :) ).
He comes across well, unlike Putin or Trump, who always wear suits.
Was he derided for not wearing a suit? They way I read it Trump
complimented him right when he got out of the car..."You're all dressed up."
Nor was this said derisively because Zalinsky was wearing a matched and
more formal uniform-like thingie, where he seldom does this.
I thought PWL was referring to the Fox interview.
Ah.
So *Fox* interviewers ask him why he wasn't wearing a suit?
I haven't watched the interview, figuring that it was just more spin;
the actual payload was the exchange with Trump/Vance.
In article <vq25s1$sggf$1@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/2/25 8:17 AM, bmoore wrote:
In article <KtHwP.10$4T3c.3@fx08.ams1>, Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/25 7:56 AM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vptnnu$3tp07$1@dont-email.me>,
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
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TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7> >Yes, totally disgusting.US can't be relied on any more as a trade OR defence partner. Sad!Trump is a real
dickhead. Vance is like a poisonous, slimy snake.Btw, here's Zelensky's Fox News interview AFTER the oval office
fiasco.He's a pretty good guy...https://youtu.be/GfqLcBwUT_E?si=W90fnf1kBr7QYkjK
I watched the interview, he is very presidential and a good guy (not sure why I said this, probably because of
what I watched today)..
Then after he gets humiliated and insulted he gets asked why he isn't wearing a suit :) ).
He comes across well, unlike Putin or Trump, who always wear suits.
Was he derided for not wearing a suit? They way I read it Trump
complimented him right when he got out of the car..."You're all dressed up."
Nor was this said derisively because Zalinsky was wearing a matched and >>>> more formal uniform-like thingie, where he seldom does this.
I thought PWL was referring to the Fox interview.
Ah.
So *Fox* interviewers ask him why he wasn't wearing a suit?
That's the way I interpreted PWL's statement.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7
I'd like to fix it, just to know what it was...
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/01/us/politics/brian-glenn-zelensky-suit.html
A voice from the press section joined the chorus of people demanding answers from President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine on Friday, during a meeting with
President Trump and his associates.
“Why don’t you wear a suit?? a man asked Mr. Zelensky. “You’re at the highest level in this country’s office, and you refuse to wear a suit. Just want to
see if — do you own a suit?? He added, “A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the office.?
The questions came from Brian Glenn, a correspondent for Real America’s Voice, a right-wing cable channel that has spread conspiracy theories about
noncitizen voting and helped distribute Stephen K. Bannon’s “War Room? podcast after Mr. Bannon was barred from YouTube, Spotify and other mainstream
platforms.
Mr. Glenn’s outlet was selected to take a “secondary TV? role in the White House press pool alongside CNN on Friday — a position that did not exist before
this week. That access was granted as the White House continued to block reporters from The Associated Press from attending, according to a schedule sent
out by the White House, and as it began this week to handpick the pool reporters who cover the president in small settings, such as the Oval Office
meeting with Mr. Zelensky.
On 3/2/25 10:31 AM, *skriptis wrote:partner. Sad!The USA should have stopped being the >>>> "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far less if that >>>> had happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you know or you >>>> don't, that 70% of USA aids to Ukraine or other
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
On 3/2/25 9:55 AM, Sawfish wrote:> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:>> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>>> On 3/1/2025 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> >>>> Wrote in message:
On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky >>>> kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>> > >>>> Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a trade >>>> OR defence
USA that is stupid business - I give you $1.00 and you pay >>>> me $0.80 for an pear that I grew. So now I am out of a pear AND >>>> $0.20. Not good for the USA...> Also USA can't stop playing its role >>>> as the world leader otherwise it will vanishas a super power to >>>> other super power nations.Excluding the USA; name one other "super >>>> power" nation than China. I can't: Japan, UK, India, Germany, >>>> Brazil - not super powers...-- ---------------Scall5>>>>>> Oh you changed something
needed. To test this I will turn them off for a while.again.
My guess is this.
It's not the sig, it's pressing tab on your keyboard.
Obviously you can press tab in any of your posts, it doesn't have to be in signature. :)
Of course I cannot say definitively, but I'm pressing no tabs, and if
this shows up consistently it would mean that I'm pressing at least one
time at the minimum in every post, and I am sure as my name ends in the >ethnically approved "f-i-s-h" that I am not pressing tabs every time it
post or reply.
In fact, I'm not a betting man, but I'd probably be willing to bet 1K
that I'm not using tabs.
But I *do* want to fix this if possible, and if I can do it from my end,
I will. If I can't, I'm willing to live with it.
So let's work from the fact that I'm adding no tabs *manually*, and yes >indeed there may be tabs in the sigs, but if I do not use them, then
they're coming in from some other format override or content. I am
sending plain text (no HTML), so...
Of course, an alternative is that it's not tabs... ;^)
Although signatures are more likely to have it.
Also copying any web content e.g. Wikipedia content for example if you go too broadly with your cursor and copy entire tables from articles and post it here, they contain the same issue, I guess it's the way tables are presented here I assume it's tab
I have done that some, but...
I'd like to fix it, just to know what it was...
On 3/3/25 10:07 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
��Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:rPM, Sawfish wrote:> On 3/2/25 7:52 PM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 7:02 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> Sawfish
On 3/3/25 8:15 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 3/2/25 7:55
<sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM,
PeteWasLucky >>>> wrote:>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>> On 3/1/2025 >>>> 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky
wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> >>> Wrote in >>>> message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky >>>
Sad!The USA should have stopped being >>>> the >>> "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far lesskirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> >>> >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>
Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a >>>> trade >>> OR defence partner.
USA aids to Ukraine or other >>>> countries end up >>> being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully >>>> aware ofif that >>> had happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>> know or you >>> don't, that 70% of
this. As I was >>> informed, in the early 1990's it was >>>> something like 80% of the money >>> sent to Israel
resulted in them >>>> buying USA manufactured stuff.But for >>> the USA that is stupid >>>> business - I give
you $1.00 and you pay me >>> $0.80 for an pear >>>> that I grew. So now I am out of a pear AND $0.20. >>> Not
good for >>>> the USA...> Also USA can't stop playing its role as the >>> world >>>> leader otherwise it will
vanish as a super power to other super >>> >>>> power nations.Excluding the USA; name one other "super power"
nation >>>> >>> than China. I can't: Japan, UK, India, Germany, Brazil - not >>>> super >>> powers...--
---------------Scall5>>>> Oh you changed >>>> something while writing this post. It has the extended >> long
lines >>>> similar to what Saw does at times.> > I don't see how I changed >>>> anything. I simply stated
fasts.I think maybe Pete means the >>>> formatting, although this is a strange observation from a guy whose >>>>
smart phone app strips all CRs from original text.-- >>>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I done created myself a monster."
--Juan Carlos Ferrero~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>>>>> I am
getting long lines that aren't wrapping through the width of the >>> screen. I can't read the remaining of the
long lines for scal5 last >>> post using this app I am using>>>>>> Regarding, my messages, what do you mean by
missing CRs? How does >>> this affect you?>>>>>> We are only a few left here and we are trying to make it to
work >>> together :)>>>> What I see from T-bird news reader.>>>> https://imgur.com/PziricD> > Ooops! Hilo
house...> > https://imgur.com/LzZy1Eu> > > Who else sees something like what's in my 2nd link?> > I see the
screenshot, what is your complaint?> > The quoted text or my reply?Quoted text, which appears as blue. I
highlighted it with a red rectangle in the link below:https://imgur.com/Z4sCV9pIt makes it VERY hard to look
back in the exchange at any given point to refer to anything that either of us has said. The longer the exchange
goes on, the more of it is mashed together as in the highlighted example.Do you see why this is a problem,
Pete?-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Would
someone please tell me what 'diddy-wah-diddy' >means?"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
replying to.
Honestly I never cared about the quoted text and just left it to be handled by the app.
I thought following hierarchical view of the discussion thread should be enough to highlight the post I am
Not at all. Details matter, and when looking back at what was said so as
to be accurate, it's much harder than it needs to be to go thru the text
part that has no end of lines, all wadded together, and even hard to
lump back up the history stack to find a version that is clean enough to >read.
But of course, if one is simply making it up as they go along, with no >thought to what has been previously said, then what you suggest would
work fine.
But when I need to address specific part of another post I actually copy, paste and quite the parts I need manually.
Then you lose the context in which is was said, lending credence to the
idea that the cut-paste was "taken out of context".
On 3/3/25 12:42 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vq4rni$1e00b$1@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/3/25 10:07 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
��Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
PM, Sawfish wrote:> On 3/2/25 7:52 PM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 7:02 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> SawfishOn 3/3/25 8:15 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 3/2/25 7:55
<sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM,
PeteWasLucky >>>> wrote:>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>> On 3/1/2025 >>>> 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky
wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> >>> Wrote in >>>> message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky >>>
Sad!The USA should have stopped being >>>> the >>> "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far lesskirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> >>> >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>
Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a >>>> trade >>> OR defence partner.
USA aids to Ukraine or other >>>> countries end up >>> being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully >>>> aware ofif that >>> had happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>> know or you >>> don't, that 70% of
this. As I was >>> informed, in the early 1990's it was >>>> something like 80% of the money >>> sent to Israel
resulted in them >>>> buying USA manufactured stuff.But for >>> the USA that is stupid >>>> business - I give
you $1.00 and you pay me >>> $0.80 for an pear >>>> that I grew. So now I am out of a pear AND $0.20. >>> Not
good for >>>> the USA...> Also USA can't stop playing its role as the >>> world >>>> leader otherwise it will
vanish as a super power to other super >>> >>>> power nations.Excluding the USA; name one other "super power"
nation >>>> >>> than China. I can't: Japan, UK, India, Germany, Brazil - not >>>> super >>> powers...--
---------------Scall5>>>> Oh you changed >>>> something while writing this post. It has the extended >> long
lines >>>> similar to what Saw does at times.> > I don't see how I changed >>>> anything. I simply stated
fasts.I think maybe Pete means the >>>> formatting, although this is a strange observation from a guy whose >>>>
smart phone app strips all CRs from original text.-- >>>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I done created myself a monster."
--Juan Carlos Ferrero~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>>>>> I am
getting long lines that aren't wrapping through the width of the >>> screen. I can't read the remaining of the
long lines for scal5 last >>> post using this app I am using>>>>>> Regarding, my messages, what do you mean by
missing CRs? How does >>> this affect you?>>>>>> We are only a few left here and we are trying to make it to
work >>> together :)>>>> What I see from T-bird news reader.>>>> https://imgur.com/PziricD> > Ooops! Hilo
house...> > https://imgur.com/LzZy1Eu> > > Who else sees something like what's in my 2nd link?> > I see the
screenshot, what is your complaint?> > The quoted text or my reply?Quoted text, which appears as blue. I
highlighted it with a red rectangle in the link below:https://imgur.com/Z4sCV9pIt makes it VERY hard to look
back in the exchange at any given point to refer to anything that either of us has said. The longer the exchange
goes on, the more of it is mashed together as in the highlighted example.Do you see why this is a problem,
Pete?-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Would
someone please tell me what 'diddy-wah-diddy'
means?"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Honestly I never cared about the quoted text and just left it to be handled by the app.
I thought following hierarchical view of the discussion thread should be enough to highlight the post I amreplying to.
Not at all. Details matter, and when looking back at what was said so as
to be accurate, it's much harder than it needs to be to go thru the text
part that has no end of lines, all wadded together, and even hard to
lump back up the history stack to find a version that is clean enough to
read.
But of course, if one is simply making it up as they go along, with no
thought to what has been previously said, then what you suggest would
work fine.
But when I need to address specific part of another post I actually copy, paste and quite the parts I need manually.
Then you lose the context in which is was said, lending credence to the
idea that the cut-paste was "taken out of context".
This is true.
Sawfis, now when I reply to your post I see ^M at the end of all your lines. I happen to know
that ^M is a CR. Did you change something, or is it on my side?
The plot thickens :-)
Ah, let's wait a bit. For the last day or too I have also used the phone
app PhoNews. SoI've got output from two NNTP clients now: PhoNews and
T-bird (which I've used for years). T-bird is stet to plain text
(UTF-8), no HTML.
As a brief start, how long have you seen this deal with ^M?
On 3/3/25 2:21 PM, bmoore@nyx.net wrote:
In article <vq59ac$1g6g2$2@dont-email.me>,manually.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/3/25 12:42 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vq4rni$1e00b$1@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/3/25 10:07 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
������Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
PM, Sawfish wrote:> On 3/2/25 7:52 PM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 7:02 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> SawfishOn 3/3/25 8:15 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 3/2/25 7:55
<sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM,
PeteWasLucky >>>> wrote:>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>> On 3/1/2025 >>>> 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky
wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> >>> Wrote in >>>> message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky >>>
Sad!The USA should have stopped being >>>> the >>> "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far lesskirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> >>> >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>
Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a >>>> trade >>> OR defence partner.
USA aids to Ukraine or other >>>> countries end up >>> being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully >>>> aware ofif that >>> had happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>> know or you >>> don't, that 70% of
this. As I was >>> informed, in the early 1990's it was >>>> something like 80% of the money >>> sent to Israel
resulted in them >>>> buying USA manufactured stuff.But for >>> the USA that is stupid >>>> business - I give
you $1.00 and you pay me >>> $0.80 for an pear >>>> that I grew. So now I am out of a pear AND $0.20. >>> Not
good for >>>> the USA...> Also USA can't stop playing its role as the >>> world >>>> leader otherwise it will
vanish as a super power to other super >>> >>>> power nations.Excluding the USA; name one other "super power"
nation >>>> >>> than China. I can't: Japan, UK, India, Germany, Brazil - not >>>> super >>> powers...--
---------------Scall5>>>> Oh you changed >>>> something while writing this post. It has the extended >> long
lines >>>> similar to what Saw does at times.> > I don't see how I changed >>>> anything. I simply stated
fasts.I think maybe Pete means the >>>> formatting, although this is a strange observation from a guy whose >>>>
smart phone app strips all CRs from original text.-- >>>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I done created myself a monster."
--Juan Carlos Ferrero~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>>>>> I am
getting long lines that aren't wrapping through the width of the >>> screen. I can't read the remaining of the
long lines for scal5 last >>> post using this app I am using>>>>>> Regarding, my messages, what do you mean by
missing CRs? How does >>> this affect you?>>>>>> We are only a few left here and we are trying to make it to
work >>> together :)>>>> What I see from T-bird news reader.>>>> https://imgur.com/PziricD> > Ooops! Hilo
house...> > https://imgur.com/LzZy1Eu> > > Who else sees something like what's in my 2nd link?> > I see the
screenshot, what is your complaint?> > The quoted text or my reply?Quoted text, which appears as blue. I
highlighted it with a red rectangle in the link below:https://imgur.com/Z4sCV9pIt makes it VERY hard to look
back in the exchange at any given point to refer to anything that either of us has said. The longer the exchange
goes on, the more of it is mashed together as in the highlighted example.Do you see why this is a problem,
Pete?-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Would
someone please tell me what 'diddy-wah-diddy'
means?"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Honestly I never cared about the quoted text and just left it to be handled by the app.
I thought following hierarchical view of the discussion thread should be enough to highlight the post I amreplying to.
Not at all. Details matter, and when looking back at what was said so as >>>>
to be accurate, it's much harder than it needs to be to go thru the text >>>>
part that has no end of lines, all wadded together, and even hard to
lump back up the history stack to find a version that is clean enough to >>>>
read.
But of course, if one is simply making it up as they go along, with no >>>>
thought to what has been previously said, then what you suggest would >>>>
work fine.
But when I need to address specific part of another post I actually copy, paste and quite the parts I need
Then you lose the context in which is was said, lending credence to the >>>>
idea that the cut-paste was "taken out of context".
This is true.
Sawfis, now when I reply to your post I see ^M at the end of all your lines. I happen to know
that ^M is a CR. Did you change something, or is it on my side?
The plot thickens :-)
Ah, let's wait a bit. For the last day or too I have also used the phone >>>app PhoNews. SoI've got output from two NNTP clients now: PhoNews and >>>T-bird (which I've used for years). T-bird is stet to plain text
(UTF-8), no HTML.
As a brief start, how long have you seen this deal with ^M?
A day or two. But on this current post, I don't see it.
OK, this is by PhoNews. Do you see it now?
Thanks, b.
In article <vq59ac$1g6g2$2@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/3/25 12:42 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vq4rni$1e00b$1@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/3/25 10:07 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
������Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
PM, Sawfish wrote:> On 3/2/25 7:52 PM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 7:02 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> SawfishOn 3/3/25 8:15 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 3/2/25 7:55
<sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM,
PeteWasLucky >>>> wrote:>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>> On 3/1/2025 >>>> 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky
wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> >>> Wrote in >>>> message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, TT wrote:> PeteWasLucky >>>
Sad!The USA should have stopped being >>>> the >>> "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far lesskirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>> >>> >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>
Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more as a >>>> trade >>> OR defence partner.
USA aids to Ukraine or other >>>> countries end up >>> being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully >>>> aware ofif that >>> had happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>> know or you >>> don't, that 70% of
this. As I was >>> informed, in the early 1990's it was >>>> something like 80% of the money >>> sent to Israel
resulted in them >>>> buying USA manufactured stuff.But for >>> the USA that is stupid >>>> business - I give
you $1.00 and you pay me >>> $0.80 for an pear >>>> that I grew. So now I am out of a pear AND $0.20. >>> Not
good for >>>> the USA...> Also USA can't stop playing its role as the >>> world >>>> leader otherwise it will
vanish as a super power to other super >>> >>>> power nations.Excluding the USA; name one other "super power"
nation >>>> >>> than China. I can't: Japan, UK, India, Germany, Brazil - not >>>> super >>> powers...--
---------------Scall5>>>> Oh you changed >>>> something while writing this post. It has the extended >> long
lines >>>> similar to what Saw does at times.> > I don't see how I changed >>>> anything. I simply stated
fasts.I think maybe Pete means the >>>> formatting, although this is a strange observation from a guy whose >>>>
smart phone app strips all CRs from original text.-- >>>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I done created myself a monster."
--Juan Carlos Ferrero~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>>>>> I am
getting long lines that aren't wrapping through the width of the >>> screen. I can't read the remaining of the
long lines for scal5 last >>> post using this app I am using>>>>>> Regarding, my messages, what do you mean by
missing CRs? How does >>> this affect you?>>>>>> We are only a few left here and we are trying to make it to
work >>> together :)>>>> What I see from T-bird news reader.>>>> https://imgur.com/PziricD> > Ooops! Hilo
house...> > https://imgur.com/LzZy1Eu> > > Who else sees something like what's in my 2nd link?> > I see the
screenshot, what is your complaint?> > The quoted text or my reply?Quoted text, which appears as blue. I
highlighted it with a red rectangle in the link below:https://imgur.com/Z4sCV9pIt makes it VERY hard to look
back in the exchange at any given point to refer to anything that either of us has said. The longer the exchange
goes on, the more of it is mashed together as in the highlighted example.Do you see why this is a problem,
Pete?-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Would
someone please tell me what 'diddy-wah-diddy'
means?"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Honestly I never cared about the quoted text and just left it to be handled by the app.
I thought following hierarchical view of the discussion thread should be enough to highlight the post I amreplying to.
Not at all. Details matter, and when looking back at what was said so as >>>
to be accurate, it's much harder than it needs to be to go thru the text >>>
part that has no end of lines, all wadded together, and even hard to
lump back up the history stack to find a version that is clean enough to >>>
read.
But of course, if one is simply making it up as they go along, with no
thought to what has been previously said, then what you suggest would
work fine.
But when I need to address specific part of another post I actually copy, paste and quite the parts I need manually.
Then you lose the context in which is was said, lending credence to the >>>
idea that the cut-paste was "taken out of context".
This is true.
Sawfis, now when I reply to your post I see ^M at the end of all your lines. I happen to know
that ^M is a CR. Did you change something, or is it on my side?
The plot thickens :-)
Ah, let's wait a bit. For the last day or too I have also used the phone >>app PhoNews. SoI've got output from two NNTP clients now: PhoNews and >>T-bird (which I've used for years). T-bird is stet to plain text
(UTF-8), no HTML.
As a brief start, how long have you seen this deal with ^M?
A day or two. But on this current post, I don't see it.
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 3/2/25 9:55 AM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:>>> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>>-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>>> know or>>>>> you don't, that 70% of USA aids to Ukraine or other >>>>> countries end>>>>> up being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully aware of >>>>> this. As I>>>>> was informed, in the early 1990's it was
On 3/1/2025 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Scall5>>>>> <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, >>>>> TT>>>>> wrote:> PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>>>>>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>
Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any more >>>>> > as a>>>>> trade OR defence partner. Sad!The USA should have stopped >>>>> being>>>>> the "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far >>>>> less if>>>>> that had happened...
power" nation than China. I can't:>>>>> Japan, UK, India, Germany, Brazil - not super powers...-->>>>> ---------------Scall5>>>>>>>> Oh you changed something while writing this post. It has the>>>> extended long lines similar to what Saw does at times.a pear AND $0.20. Not good for the USA...> Also USA can't >>>>> stop>>>>> playing its role as the world leader otherwise it will >>>>> vanish as>>>>> a super power to other super power nations.Excluding the >>>>> USA;>>>>> name one other "super
whio uses the same app apparently, with the same result,> mentioned a while back that (I think) the problem comes from my > sig> files; skript can clarify as needed. To test this I will turn > them off> for a while. *skriptis just won't admit that thatI don't see how I changed anything. I simply stated fasts.>> I think maybe Pete means the formatting, although this is a >> strange>> observation from a guy whose smart phone app strips all CRs >> from>> original text.>> >> A bit more...>> Skript,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 3/2/25 9:55 AM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:>>> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>>>> On 3/1/2025 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>Scall5>>>>> <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM, >>>>> TT>>>>> wrote:> PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>>>>>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>>>>>> > Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't
-=-=-=-=-=-
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 3/2/25 9:55 AM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5wrote:>>> On 3/2/2025 8:19 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>>>>> On
3/1/2025 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Scall5>>>>> <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>> On 2/28/2025 6:22 PM,
relied on any more >>>>> > as a>>>>> trade OR defence partner. Sad!The USA should have stopped >>>>> being>>>>>wrote:> PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025 klo 21.00:>>>>>>> >https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>>>>>> > Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be
the "world's policeman" since 1992: my taxes would be far >>>>> less if>>>>> that had happened...--
---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>>> know or>>>>> you don't, that 70% of USA aids to Ukraine or other >>>>>
countries end>>>>> up being paid to businesses in USA.I am fully aware of >>>>> this. As I>>>>> was informed, in
the early 1990's it was something like 80% >>>>> of>>>>> the money sent to Israel resulted in them buying USA
me $0.80 for an pear that I grew. So now I am >>>>> out of>>>>> a pear AND $0.20. Not good for the USA...> Alsomanufactured>>>>> stuff.But for the USA that is stupid business - I give you >>>>> $1.00>>>>> and you pay
USA can't >>>>> stop>>>>> playing its role as the world leader otherwise it will >>>>> vanish as>>>>> a super
power to other super power nations.Excluding the >>>>> USA;>>>>> name one other "super power" nation than China.
I can't:>>>>> Japan, UK, India, Germany, Brazil - not super powers...-->>>>> ---------------Scall5>>>>>>>> Oh
you changed something while writing this post. It has the>>>> extended long lines similar to what Saw does at
times.>>>>>> I don't see how I changed anything. I simply stated fasts.>> I think maybe Pete means the
formatting, although this is a >> strange>> observation from a guy whose smart phone app strips all CRs >>
from>> original text.>> >> A bit more...>> Skript, whio uses the same app apparently, with the same result,>
mentioned a while back that (I think) the problem comes from my > sig> files; skript can clarify as needed. To
test this I will turn > them off> for a while. *skriptis just won't admit that that crappy android abandonware
he uses destroys every thread it touches. At least Pete admits it.What he's talking about regarding your sig
is a different bug in that software. It can't seem to handle stray tabs in a message and renders the message
totally corrupted. *Then* he complains, if it affects him.
Lol
Sawfish he pressed tab to *make my reading uncomfortable*.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> Sawfish
<sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 3/2/25 9:55 AM, Sawfish
wrote:>> On 3/2/25 8:49 AM, Scall5 wrote:>>> On 3/2/2025 8:19
AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in
message:r>>>>> On 3/1/2025 2:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>
Scall5>>>>> <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r>> On 2/28/2025
6:22 PM, >>>>> TT>>>>> wrote:> PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.2.2025
klo 21.00:>>>>>>>
https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ&si=crIVtHriQTMJZPI7>>>>>>>>>>
Yes, totally disgusting.> US can't be relied on any morehave stopped >>>>> being>>>>> the "world's policeman" since
as a>>>>> trade OR defence partner. Sad!The USA should
1992: my taxes would be far >>>>> less if>>>>> that had
happened...-- ---------------Scall5> > Maybe you >>>>> know
am fully aware of >>>>> this. As I>>>>> was informed, in theyou don't, that 70% of USA aids to Ukraine or other
countries end>>>>> up being paid to businesses in USA.I
early 1990's it was something like 80% >>>>> of>>>>> the money
sent to Israel resulted in them buying USA >>>>>
manufactured>>>>> stuff.But for the USA that is stupid business
- I give you >>>>> $1.00>>>>> and you pay me $0.80 for an pear
that I grew. So now I am >>>>> out of>>>>> a pear AND
$0.20. Not good for the USA...> Also USA can't >>>>> stop>>>>>
playing its role as the world leader otherwise it will >>>>>
vanish as>>>>> a super power to other super power
nations.Excluding the >>>>> USA;>>>>> name one other "super
power" nation than China. I can't:>>>>> Japan, UK, India,
Germany, Brazil - not super powers...-->>>>>
---------------Scall5>>>>>>>> Oh you changed something while
writing this post. It has the>>>> extended long lines similar
to what Saw does at times.>>>>>> I don't see how I changed
anything. I simply stated fasts.>> I think maybe Pete means the
formatting, although this is a >> strange>> observation from a
guy whose smart phone app strips all CRs >> from>> original
text.>> >> A bit more...>> Skript, whio uses the same app
apparently, with the same result,> mentioned a while back that
(I think) the problem comes from my > sig> files; skript can
clarify as needed. To test this I will turn > them off> for a
while. *skriptis just won't admit that that crappy
android abandonware he uses destroys every thread it touches.
At least Pete admits it.What he's talking about regarding your
sig is a different bug in that software. It can't seem to
handle stray tabs in a message and renders the message totally
corrupted. *Then* he complains, if it affects him.LolSawfish
he pressed tab to *make my reading uncomfortable*.😭--
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Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
Who the fuck ever complained?
I am not even sure how we started discussing this a year ago or
whenever it was and Sawfish was the first one to have shown
interest in solving the issue, I think he heard it from whekdr
it bothered us, I doubt he heard it from me, and I think I
realized it's tab issue. It's because I had issues reading even
my posts when I was pasting stuff from Wikipedia.
Sawfish said he'd remove those sigs, but I never asked him to do
that.
Whekdr mentioned this again the other day to Scall, obviously it
was sig again (people love using tabs in signature).
Now we talk about it again and I'm not sure why. It's actually
the opposite of what you claim I don't recall ever complaining
and in fact it's whekdr who mentioned it to Scall recently, no?
But for you he's the "good guy" because "he at least admits".
Admits what, and when?
I didn't hear it.
I'm aware of deficiency of this client, however pros outweigh
the cons for me.
I really think quoting and endlessly debating is outdated. There
are no more people who do that in good faith. It all comes down
to cheery picking and snark remarks if you debate your enemies.
And if it's your friends, quoting is kinda helpful but not
really necessary, you can still sum it all up in one message
addressing the entire issue. Good guys won't ask unnecessary
questions.
Again, overall situation is not good and generally it's messy,
but the last thing I want here is to talk to guys like you
debating point by point and quoting each sentence.
I don't feel I'm losing anything.
Regardless of your personal opinions, it irrevocably fucks up the
threads and violates common decency and etiquette.
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