It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.
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It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.
On 3/5/25 8:03 AM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vq8e8n$24r50$1@dont-email.me>,
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
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It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.
At least now we know that Trump is the best president ever, with George Washington a distant second.
My wife is a near-perfect mimic. It's uncanny...
A few days ago I was playing with ChatGPT directing it to make a phone
app; it hasn't worked yet, but...
Anyway I was in one room and she was in another and I half jokingly
mentioned aloud:
"There. Now I wonder if this code will compile."
From the other room, in a voice a lot like Trump, in diction and
cadence, I heard:
"Of course it'll compile! It's beautiful, beautiful code!"
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:r> In article <vq8e8n$24r50$1@dont-email.me>,PeteWasLucky<waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>>It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those
that have no brains.At least now we know that Trump is the best president ever, with George Washington a distant
second.Honestly I was laughing loudly the entire speech. Talking about eggs and Biden, transgender mice and
Biden, George Washington, ...The guy just wants recognition, he wants to be remembered as great :)The laughter
here was very hilarious btwhttps://x.com/Acyn/status/1897119290408735096-- ----Android NewsGroup
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Imagine laughing at *that*.
It's cartoonish evil laughter, no?
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:r> In article <vq8e8n$24r50$1@dont-email.me>,PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>>It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.At least now we knowthat Trump is the best president ever, with George Washington a distant second.Honestly I was laughing loudly the entire speech. Talking about eggs and Biden, transgender mice and Biden, George Washington, ...The guy just wants recognition, he wants to
Why?
Trump is claiming to be the best of the American presidents.
That is funny.
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America I
think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys laugh
at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's
basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably since
FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you or I
have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting up
SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work".
When Trump won the election, I never thought he woulddestroy the core values of USA. Such a pathetic moron.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America I
think, remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for
example, and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those
guys laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
Elon Musk, most powerful unelected bureaucrat ever.
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America
I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys
laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's
basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably
since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you
or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting
up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work".
Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:> On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:>> On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:>>> On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:>>>> On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:>>>>> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>>>>>> Why?>>>>>>>>>>>example, and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) >>>> and>>>> those guys laugh at him?>>>>>>>>>> So why laugh?>>>>>>>>>> I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the >>>>> unelected>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule >>>>> of>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in>>>>> America I think,>>>>>>>> Agreed.>>>>>>>> remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for>>>>
why not> the 50 States and Fed?They should at least follow the laws or change them, and particularly the constitution. Once the winds change all that law-breaking you cheer on now will likely be used in the other direction.
On 3/5/25 9:39 PM, *skriptis wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:>> When Trump won the election, I never thought he woulddestroy the core values of USA. Such a pathetic moron.> > > > So core value of the USA was what, waginga war against Russia?> > But Trump said in his campaign that he'd stop that war and voters approved of him. From here in the US, living with Trump as US CEO, he does indeed appear to want no war, as a matter of personal taste. It would be hard for
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America
I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example, >>>> and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys
laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's
basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably
since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you
or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting
up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work".
Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be
disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the
entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least >tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and
etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the
50 States and Fed?
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bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge
problem in America I think, remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example, and it's
definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected bureaucrats will strike back, you can do
nothing to them".
No?
On 3/5/25 11:56 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for
example, and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those >>>>> guys laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's
basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably
since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as
you or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting
up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work".
Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be
disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha.
The dialogues with you force me to re-evaluate libertarianism, and this
is always good to periodically review things.
As an ideal system, it really appeals to me. The problem I found with it
long ago is that to work for *you* the individual libertarian, the vast
bulk of the society must also adopt these same values (that would be
fine), but at this point a sizable portion does not, and some even
probably sneer at the idea of being cooperatively self-reliant.
So in the situation we're in--and in my opinion it won't change >substantially--if you are a libertarian in a modern administrative
society you are playing by a higher set of rules while maybe 40% of the >others do not, and are supported in this approach by official government >policy. You will end up paying into the system for *all* benefits but
really only expect a few, bypassing many freebies, which are too
distasteful to take. Many will not be available to you, by means testing
or other identity testing. But you'll still pay, and most of the
recipients won't.
I understand this distaste, but over the long haul, the libertarian is
bled out by the system, so the way I see it, I'm stuck here, it's not
what I want, but I *do* hold my nose and take some stuff, like SS and >Medicare. I would take more stuff--simply to get my money's worth--but I >already have better stuff and want better stuff than they hand out for free.
Not sure if I want the
entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order.
Yes, and in my opinion it would never in a million years reform itself
even if instructed to by the highest authority. It has to have a hard
reset, like now.
Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least
tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and
etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the
50 States and Fed?
For the same reason that DOGE is now required: they have no
accountability and there is no way to make it happen, short of reboot
from the outside.
The reboot, and no DEI and trans nonsense, are the best things so far,
and if the 2017 tax law becomes permanent, that's all I'd want. No need
for any further tax breaks, but of course I'll take them if they come.
-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But give a man a boat,
a case of beer, and a few sticks of dynamite..." -- Sawfish
In article <vqa7p8$nsq$1@sunce.iskon.hr>,*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>> Why?>>>Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of unelected bureaucrats (something whichis a huge>problem in America I think, remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example, and it's>definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys laugh at him?>>So why laugh?>>I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> From here in the US, living with Trump as US CEO, he does indeed> appear to want no war, as a matter of personal taste. It would > be hard> for someone to convince me that this is not the case, equally > hard as>convincing me he's not a narcissist.Maybe, but he's playing a dangerous game. He took a HUGE gamble with all of his court cases prior to the election and had success. But he stayed out of big trouble mostly due to corruption, eg. particularly Cannon (
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bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:r
In article <vqa7p8$nsq$1@sunce.iskon.hr>,*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> >wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>> Why?>>>Because in his speech against he'srallying against the rule of unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge>problem in America I think,
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example, and it's>definitely an even bigger problem in
EU) and those guys laugh at him?>>So why laugh?>>I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the
unelected bureaucrats will strike back, you can do>nothing to them".>>No?Musk is unelected. That's why it's
funny. It's so obvious.
But he does whatever Trump tells him to do.
Compare that to Biden who was being told where to walk by his advisors who were unelected.
If you can't tell the difference, well.
We miss Gorby and Yeltsin.
In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example, >>>>> and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys
laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's
basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably
since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you >>>>> or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting
up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work".
Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be
disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the
entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least
tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and
etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the
50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
In article <vqccdc$30nq9$2@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:56 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for
example, and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those >>>>>> guys laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as
you or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be
disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha.
The dialogues with you force me to re-evaluate libertarianism, and this
is always good to periodically review things.
As an ideal system, it really appeals to me. The problem I found with it
long ago is that to work for *you* the individual libertarian, the vast
bulk of the society must also adopt these same values (that would be
fine), but at this point a sizable portion does not, and some even
probably sneer at the idea of being cooperatively self-reliant.
I am a libertarian in my own life and personal dealings, but I don't think the government should
be that way. We are a society. Some things are individual but some are community. I don't believe
in a nanny state but I don't want to defund the police, either. Taxes should not be eliminated. The roads
must be maintained.
On 3/6/2025 12:21 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote: >>> On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of
unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example, >>>>>> and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys
laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you >>>>>> or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be
disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the
entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least
tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and >>> etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the
50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
Who or Whom would you pair with Musk to make DOGE more objective to you?
On 3/6/25 4:17 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqdcs4$36een$2@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote: >>> On 3/6/2025 12:21 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:Short attention spans hurt, yes.
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations... >>>>>>
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of >>>>>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys >>>>>>>> laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you >>>>>>>> or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>>>
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be >>>>>> disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the >>>>> entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least >>>>> tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and >>>>> etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the >>>>> 50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
Who or Whom would you pair with Musk to make DOGE more objective to you?
Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, maybe.
I had this guy in mind...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_de_Torquemada#Grand_Inquisitor
In article <vqdcs4$36een$2@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 12:21 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote: >>>> On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations...
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of >>>>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys >>>>>>> laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you >>>>>>> or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>>
Short attention spans hurt, yes.
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be >>>>> disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the
entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least
tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and >>>> etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the >>>> 50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
Who or Whom would you pair with Musk to make DOGE more objective to you?
Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, maybe.
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:> On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish
wrote:>> On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:>>> On 3/5/2025 1:41
PM, Sawfish wrote:>>>> On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis
wrote:>>>>> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>>>>>>
Why?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because in his speech against he's rallying
against the rule >>>>> of>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something
which is a huge problem in>>>>> America I think,>>>>>>>>
Agreed.>>>>>>>> remember who was pulling the strings for
senile Biden for>>>> example, and it's definitely an even
bigger problem in EU) >>>> and>>>> those guys laugh at
him?>>>>>>>>>> So why laugh?>>>>>>>>>> I can only interpret
that as their laughter being, "the >>>>> unelected>>>>>
bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to
them".>>>>>>>>>> No?>>>>>>>> The situation is a kind of a
dilemma. I perceive that, yep,>>>> there's basically a mandrin
class of public administrators at >>>> all>>>> probably since
FDR times, and is beyond any sort of >>>> accountability>>>>
such as you or I have faced in the workplace.>>>>>>>> I know
because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon>>>>
setting up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what
they>>>> called "work". >>>>>> Sawfish: you can be tiresome
with your long winded >>> speculations...>> Short attention
spans hurt, yes.>> Do>>> you agree with DOGE or not?>> Yes. I
system; it >> must>> be disassembled and a new one rebuilt toI do not believe that it is possible to reform the
replace it, one that >> canbe>> controlled, for a while.>> I
may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I >
want the> entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to
replace it" > but a> total house cleaning is in order. Remains
to be seen how well > the> current administration handles it -
but I love that they are at > least> tackling it.>>> This may
be a cyclical chore.>> Lots of financial firms, manufacturing
companies, retail > businesses,> and etc have to be audited by
a third party at least annually; > why not> the 50 States and
Fed?They should at least follow the laws or change them, and
particularly the constitution. Once the winds change all that
law-breaking you cheer on now will likely be used in the other
direction.
Interestingly when Russia changes law and constitution to allow
Putin to run again, you cry it's something bad and that it
should not happen, apparently Russia should permanently have
same laws and constitution?
Well wouldn't you agree that changing the law is better than just
brazenly breaking it like MAGA wants?
On 3/6/2025 6:17 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqdcs4$36een$2@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote: >>> On 3/6/2025 12:21 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:Short attention spans hurt, yes.
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations... >>>>>>
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of >>>>>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys >>>>>>>> laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them".
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you >>>>>>>> or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>>>
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be >>>>>> disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe
controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the >>>>> entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a
total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least >>>>> tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and >>>>> etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the >>>>> 50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
Who or Whom would you pair with Musk to make DOGE more objective to you?
Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, maybe.
I could go along with a group like the CNBC's "Squawk Box" team.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:rthat Trump is the best president ever, with George Washington a distant second.Honestly I was laughing loudly the entire speech. Talking about eggs and Biden, transgender mice and Biden, George Washington, ...The guy just wants recognition, he wants to
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:r> In article <vq8e8n$24r50$1@dont-email.me>,PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>-=-=-=-=-=->>>It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.At least now we know
Imagine laughing at *that*.
It's cartoonish evil laughter, no?
In article <vq8e8n$24r50$1@dont-email.me>,
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
-=-=-=-=-=-
It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.
At least now we know that Trump is the best president ever, with George Washington a distant second.
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
On 3/4/2025 8:52 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > It's like a show written and directed to further brainwash those that have no brains.I'll give it a 9.5 on a 10 scale because it's not over yet.-- ---------------Scall5
Should be 10 now with a cookie. Oh wait :)
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:runelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in >>> America>>> I think, remember who was pulling the strings for senile >>> Biden for>>> example, and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and>>> those guys laugh at him?>>>>>> So why
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:> On 3/5/2025 2:09 PM, jdeluise wrote:>> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:>> >>> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>>>> Why?>>>>>>>>> Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule >>> of>>>
He has no issue having the richest person on the planet getting
into the government spending details and putting his hands on
confidential data and he enjoys being in an electric car sold by
this guy but then he has problems with a cookie :)
In article <vqdipt$37e7u$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 6:17 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqdcs4$36een$2@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote: >>>> On 3/6/2025 12:21 PM, bmoore wrote:
Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, maybe.In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:Short attention spans hurt, yes.
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations... >>>>>>>
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of >>>>>>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys >>>>>>>>> laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them". >>>>>>>>>>
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you >>>>>>>>> or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>>>>
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be >>>>>>> disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe >>>>>>> controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the >>>>>> entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a >>>>>> total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the
current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least >>>>>> tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and >>>>>> etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the >>>>>> 50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
Who or Whom would you pair with Musk to make DOGE more objective to you? >>>
I could go along with a group like the CNBC's "Squawk Box" team.
I don't know what that is. But not Elon, terrible choice.
On 3/6/2025 8:39 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqdipt$37e7u$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote: >>> On 3/6/2025 6:17 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <vqdcs4$36een$2@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 12:21 PM, bmoore wrote:Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, maybe.
In article <vqbkfh$2ss89$1@dont-email.me>, Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 9:59 PM, Sawfish wrote:
On 3/5/25 7:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 3/5/2025 1:41 PM, Sawfish wrote:Short attention spans hurt, yes.
On 3/5/25 11:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:Sawfish: you can be tiresome with your long winded speculations... >>>>>>>>
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
Why?
Because in his speech against he's rallying against the rule of >>>>>>>>>>> unelected bureaucrats (something which is a huge problem in America >>>>>>>>>>> I think,
Agreed.
remember who was pulling the strings for senile Biden for example,
and it's definitely an even bigger problem in EU) and those guys >>>>>>>>>> laugh at him?
So why laugh?
I can only interpret that as their laughter being, "the unelected >>>>>>>>>>> bureaucrats will strike back, you can do nothing to them". >>>>>>>>>>>
No?
The situation is a kind of a dilemma. I perceive that, yep, there's >>>>>>>>>> basically a mandrin class of public administrators at all probably >>>>>>>>>> since FDR times, and is beyond any sort of accountability such as you
or I have faced in the workplace.
I know because I worked on contract for the state of Oregon setting >>>>>>>>>> up SW system. I was privy for 18 months to what they called "work". >>>>>>>>>
Do
you agree with DOGE or not?
Yes. I do.
I do not believe that it is possible to reform the system; it must be >>>>>>>> disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it, one that canbe >>>>>>>> controlled, for a while.
I may make you a quasi Libertarian yet, ha ha. Not sure if I want the >>>>>>> entire Fed "disassembled and a new one rebuilt to replace it" but a >>>>>>> total house cleaning is in order. Remains to be seen how well the >>>>>>> current administration handles it - but I love that they are at least >>>>>>> tackling it.
This may be a cyclical chore.
Lots of financial firms, manufacturing companies, retail businesses, and
etc have to be audited by a third party at least annually; why not the >>>>>>> 50 States and Fed?
Sure, why not? But Musk is like the fox auditing the henhouse.
Who or Whom would you pair with Musk to make DOGE more objective to you? >>>>
I could go along with a group like the CNBC's "Squawk Box" team.
I don't know what that is. But not Elon, terrible choice.
Squawk Box is a great show about daily financial treads. Runs Monday
through Friday 6-9 am Eastern time on CNBC. Three hosts; one a liberal,
one a conservative, and Becky who seems very centered. They can agree to
not agree. I watch it every morning.
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:
Squawk Box is a great show about daily financial treads. Runs Monday
through Friday 6-9 am Eastern time on CNBC. Three hosts; one a
liberal, one a conservative, and Becky who seems very centered. They
can agree to not agree. I watch it every morning.
Just a few weeks ago you were virtue signaling you don't watch any "mainstream media". lol
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