• Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Trump=E2=80=99s_tariff_math_is_crazy=2C_says_4oCYV2

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sat Apr 5 18:39:14 2025
    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
    I still don't understand why trade deficit is such is such an important metric. I understand that tariffs are used tohelp domestic businesses. But the other countries can do it too, obviously. It's kind of about helping domesticbusiness vs. free trade
    and striking a balance, I guess.China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military. Good job, Trump.



    Lol, Whisper was right about rst.



    "China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military. Good job, Trump"


    Trump weakened your military? With tariffs and causing China's response? Who are now holding back minerals?

    But in case there's some real war with China or their ally, they'd give you those minerals?

    Hahaha.













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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Sat Apr 5 18:17:31 2025
    In article <vsrmbd$b98$1@sunce.iskon.hr>,
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote: >------=_Part_4_228673792.1743871154174
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    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
    I still don't understand why trade deficit is such is such an important metric. I understand that tariffs are used tohelp domestic businesses. But the other countries can do it too, obviously. It's kind of about helping domesticbusiness vs. free trade
    and striking a balance, I guess.China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military. Good job, Trump.



    Lol, Whisper was right about rst.



    "China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military. Good job, Trump"


    Trump weakened your military? With tariffs and causing China's response? Who are now holding back minerals?

    But in case there's some real war with China or their ally, they'd give you those minerals?

    Hahaha.

    We were getting the minerals before Trump started his crazy tariffs. Now it's at risk.

    Twist the night away!

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sun Apr 6 00:51:47 2025
    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:r
    In article <vsrmbd$b98$1@sunce.iskon.hr>,*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote:>------=_Part_4_228673792.1743871154174>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>>bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>> I still don'
    t understand why trade deficit is such is such an important metric. I understand that tariffs are used tohelp domestic businesses. But the other countries can do it too, obviously. It's kind of about helping domesticbusiness vs. free trade and striking a
    balance, I guess.China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military. Good job, Trump.>>>>Lol, Whisper was right about rst.>>>>"China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military.
    Good job, Trump">>>Trump weakened your military? With tariffs and causing China's response? Who are now holding back minerals?>>But in case there's some real war with China or their ally, they'd give you those minerals?>>Hahaha.We were getting the
    minerals before Trump started his crazy tariffs. Now it's at risk.Twist the night away!



    If the story is true, "your military" was weakened at very moment it came into situation of dependence on Chinese minerals.

    How can you blame Trump for trying to cut such dependency


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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Sun Apr 6 17:04:14 2025
    In article <vssc5u$rfu$1@sunce.iskon.hr>,
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
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    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:r
    In article <vsrmbd$b98$1@sunce.iskon.hr>,*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> >wrote:>------=_Part_4_228673792.1743871154174>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
    7bit>>bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:>> I still don't understand why trade deficit is such is such an
    important metric. I understand that tariffs are used tohelp domestic businesses. But the other countries can do
    it too, obviously. It's kind of about helping domesticbusiness vs. free trade and striking a balance, I
    guess.China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals. That weakens our military. Good job,
    Trump.>>>>Lol, Whisper was right about rst.>>>>"China response includes holding back on rare earth minerals.
    That weakens our military. Good job, Trump">>>Trump weakened your military? With tariffs and causing China's
    response? Who are now holding back minerals?>>But in case there's some real war with China or their ally, they'd
    give you those minerals?>>Hahaha.We were getting the minerals before Trump started his crazy tariffs. Now it's
    at risk.Twist the night away!



    If the story is true, "your military" was weakened at very moment it came into situation of dependence on
    Chinese minerals.

    China controls the world supply of rare earth minerals. The dependence on China is unfortunate. That's why we are
    working on alternatives. You might research this a bit before your next twist.

    How can you blame Trump for trying to cut such dependency?

    You obviously have no understanding of what Trump is trying to do. The only tariffs you seem to care about are the ones
    on cheap vodka :-)

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 18:22:00 2025
    On 4/7/2025 1:41 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:
    Then why did you make that stupid reply to begin with? Makes me less inclined to discuss anything of relevance with you be it tennis or otherwise...

    Remember he's the guy to have admitted "he is luring and toying with other posters"

    I must have missed that. But it does fit.

    Strange person.

    Anyone who passionately plays this very difficult sport probably is a
    bit odd, including myself. Perfectionists typically.
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    Scall5

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