• Re: Trump tariffs live updates: China tariffs take effect at midnight

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Apr 8 21:37:36 2025
    On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-market-china.html

    He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a nation of hard working men, women and children.

    I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If I
    don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything. It's very
    nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.

    Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping computers
    to Europe. I assume they're made in China. The problem is that I kind of
    need it.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Apr 8 20:34:21 2025
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-market-china.htmlHe thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a nation of hard working men,
    women and children.



    Trump wants e.g. better balanced trade, is willing to wage "war" with others by having more or fewer container ships. Boohoo.

    And yet you're so appreciative of Chinese pride in this case. Trump is a "bully".


    That's all fine, but when Biden tried to install his army in Russian sphere, literally tried not to bully but wanted Russia to kneel before and started a real war in which people still die, you approved of him.


    Lol what a clown.





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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 18:51:43 2025
    On 4/8/2025 1:37 PM, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-
    market-china.html

    He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he
    can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a
    nation of hard working men, women and children.

    I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If I
    don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything. It's very
    nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.

    Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping computers
    to Europe. I assume they're made in China. The problem is that I kind of
    need it.

    I just got a new computer a month ago, glad I did. Now i don't have to
    worry about a trade war regarding my computer system.
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Apr 9 18:54:54 2025
    On 4/9/2025 1:04 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 4/8/2025 1:37 PM, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock- >> market-china.html>>>> He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he >>
    can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a >> nation of hard working men, women and children.> > I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If I > don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything.
    It's very > nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.> > Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping computers > to Europe. I assume they're made in China. The problem is that I kind of > need it.I just got a new computer a month ago,
    glad I did. Now i don't have to worry about a trade war regarding my computer system.-- ---------------Scall5

    Does it come with Lynx text browser?

    My reply wasn't directed at you.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 12:58:59 2025
    On 08/04/2025 21.37, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-market-china.html

    He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he
    can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a
    nation of hard working men, women and children.

    I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If I
    don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything. It's very
    nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.

    Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping computers
    to Europe. I assume they're made in China.

    Nope, Pelle. Thailand, India, Vietnam.

    CNN says iPhones could cost $3500 if they were made in the US. I'll put
    that down to $2500 with more imported Demmie voters from the shores of
    the Gulf of Mexico.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Thu Apr 10 12:15:54 2025
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 08/04/2025 21.37, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-market-china.html>>>> He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he >> can
    get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a >> nation of hard working men, women and children.> > I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If I > don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything. It'
    s very > nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.> > Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping computers > to Europe. I assume they're made in China. Nope, Pelle. Thailand, India, Vietnam.CNN says iPhones could cost $3500 if they were
    made in the US. I'll put that down to $2500 with more imported Demmie voters from the shores of the Gulf of Mexico.-- “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t
    have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.-- Nikki Haley



    But it's a good thing, it means people would buy it less often which would force products to become more durable and lasting, meaning less waste and so on.


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 17:51:56 2025
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 12.58:
    On 08/04/2025 21.37, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-
    market-china.html

    He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he
    can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as a
    nation of hard working men, women and children.

    I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If I
    don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything. It's very
    nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.

    Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping computers
    to Europe. I assume they're made in China.

    Nope, Pelle. Thailand, India, Vietnam.

    CNN says iPhones could cost $3500 if they were made in the US. I'll put
    that down to $2500 with more imported Demmie voters from the shores of
    the Gulf of Mexico.


    Whisper's phone would cost 10 000+. Oh dear.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 01:34:35 2025
    On 11/04/2025 12:51 am, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 12.58:
    On 08/04/2025 21.37, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 08/04/2025 21.21, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-
    market-china.html

    He thinks it's high school where he can bully other kids and that he
    can get China to kneel to him. I am sure they have lots of pride as
    a nation of hard working men, women and children.

    I just ordered a new mac. I have the option of not collecting it. If
    I don't collect, the deal expires and I don't lose anything. It's
    very nice to have an option to go Paper Tiger.

    Should I leave it in the hopes that Apple will start dumping
    computers to Europe. I assume they're made in China.

    Nope, Pelle. Thailand, India, Vietnam.

    CNN says iPhones could cost $3500 if they were made in the US. I'll
    put that down to $2500 with more imported Demmie voters from the
    shores of the Gulf of Mexico.


    Whisper's phone would cost 10 000+. Oh dear.


    My 15 Pro max cost $3,000 as it has 1TB. Think I'll get the 17 when it
    comes out soon, but also toying with getting Samsung 25 Ultra and having
    2 phones for a year or so. I'm kind of locked into the Apple ecosystem
    and it would be too disruptive to bail out completely, but am curious to
    see how Samsung has changed since I had the S9.

    If they go up a lot due to tarrifs will have to think about it. Only an
    idiot would pay 6k+ for a phone right? 3k is bad enough, was almost
    embarrassed to tell people I paid that much : ) It doesn't seem that
    long ago I bought a Motorola for $10.

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 18:51:21 2025
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 17:31:17 2025
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