Trump announces a PAUSE of 90 days with reduced tawiffs for many nice countries. But Bad Gina has not shown rispekt and gets even more of the
same medicine.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114309144289505174

*Rolls eyes*

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Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r

Trump announces a PAUSE of 90 days with reduced tawiffs for many nice countries. But Bad Gina has not shown rispekt and gets even more of the same medicine.https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114309144289505174*Rolls eyes*-- “We need to

acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.-- Nikki Haley



Those who kissed Don's ring (asked for negotiation) got 90 days delay with mere 10% of tariffs for that period.

China retaliated so Don retaliated to their retaliation.


It's all so simple.


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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Who increased Tariffs first? China or Trump?

Trump did increase the tariffs, trying to solve some specific American problems.

It's obvious America has to give up on global domination as Putin warned them in his 2007 speech.


So what do you do when you have to retreat, back down?

You evacuate, cut your losses and increase stronghold over the areas you still control, fortify them.

It's what's Trump doing, asking to leave Afghanistan, trying to leave Russian sphere in Europe, but at the same time, forcing his vassals to pay up more. Taking money from TT, myself to give that money to bob and jdeluise.

It's all perfectly normal.




So in his situation, when you're a bad capitalist, first thing you're trying to do is break up the unions, no?

He does that.

He imposed tariffs asking for everyone to kiss his ring (beg for exemption and new deals).

China refused to kiss his ring, obviously feeling they're too big for that.

Trump still won, as everyone else did kiss his ring. World is full of suckers and ass kissers and frightened souls. He knows that. Indians, Arabs, Dutch, and many others, they would sell their mother for a few dollars. Others simply make logical choices.

And then there's a herd mentality, once enough entities have kissed the ring, others flock to kiss the ring too feeling they'd be left alone.


Now that almost everyone did kiss his ring, it doesn't matter how strong the US is or was, in a perception war, Trump won.

China is now basically alone. The hypothetical world union is not formed, it's broken before it was formed.

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to respond to Trump.

If others hadn't kissed his ring, China would not have been slammed with these even bigger tariffs. Basics.




So everyone else has been solved, and it's a game of chicken with China now.

Both will suffer costs, but Trump is determined to show them he's more reckless than them and I believe he will do it. He will win this game proving he's a madman because Chinese are too calculated.



My reasoning is this.

A very successful football (soccer) coach once described three races.

Blacks are most athletic but are futile to coach, they mostly don't listen to anyone or anything. Discipline and focus is always a problem.

Yellows are wonderful to coach, they are disciplined and will obey coach's tactical demands to the fullest. But they lack self initiative which prevents them from reaching true heights. In no situation will any player's ego step out of the boundaries set
by coach, take personal risk and inspire his team with rebellion and emotion. They will always listen to coach "too much". Play by the book and not risk. So that's Yellows.

Whites otoh have that ability. They stay within the frame of tactical approach, but with a necessary touch of emotional spark and personal rebellion, not too much, not too little.


So based on his racial analysis I feel Whites normally win a game of chicken vs Yellows?

It means Trump already won. It's just a matter how big his victory will be. At one point China will kiss his ring, even if it ends up being portrayed as mutual ring kissing of sorts.

Trump had 0% of the stuff he wanted before all this started. Once it's over, he'll have 80% or 50% or 20% whatever, but anything would be bigger than 0%.

Btw, it's all like kids in preschool. Anyone that doesn't get it now needs to be checked. Imagine the billions of dollars his friends made in the stock market, shorting, covering, buying, selling on his own pre planned actions. Isn't this supposed to

be treated like insider info?


Spare me.

It's capitalism. It has never been fair.



Besides, what insider info? He has been saying it publicly for years. He has been open with his plans.


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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:>> Who increased Tariffs first? China or Trump?>>> Trump did increase the tariffs, trying to solve some specific > American problems.>> It's obvious

America has to give up on global domination as > Putin warned them in his 2007 speech.>>> So what do you do when you have to retreat, back down?>> You evacuate, cut your losses and increase stronghold over the > areas you still control, fortify them.>>
It's what's Trump doing, asking to leave Afghanistan, trying to > leave Russian sphere in Europe, but at the same time, forcing > his vassals to pay up more. Taking money from TT, myself to give > that money to bob and jdeluise.>> It's all perfectly
normal.>>>>> So in his situation, when you're a bad capitalist, first thing > you're trying to do is break up the unions, no?>> He does that.>> He imposed tariffs asking for everyone to kiss his ring (beg for > exemption and new deals).>> China refused
to kiss his ring, obviously feeling they're too > big for that.>> Trump still won, as everyone else did kiss his ring. World is > full of suckers and ass kissers and frightened souls. He knows > that. Indians, Arabs, Dutch, and many others, they would
sell > their mother for a few dollars. Others simply make logical > choices.>> And then there's a herd mentality, once enough entities have > kissed the ring, others flock to kiss the ring too feeling > they'd be left alone.>>> Now that almost everyone
did kiss his ring, it doesn't matter > how strong the US is or was, in a perception war, Trump won.>> China is now basically alone. The hypothetical world union is > not formed, it's broken before it was formed.>> So now he slammed China even more,
setting an example of how not > to respond to Trump.>> If others hadn't kissed his ring, China would not have been > slammed with these even bigger tariffs. Basics.>>>>> So everyone else has been solved, and it's a game of chicken > with China now.>>
Both will suffer costs, but Trump is determined to show them > he's more reckless than them and I believe he will do it. He > will win this game proving he's a madman because Chinese are too > calculated.>>>> My reasoning is this.>> A very successful
football (soccer) coach once described three > races.>> Blacks are most athletic but are futile to coach, they mostly > don't listen to anyone or anything. Discipline and focus is > always a problem.>> Yellows are wonderful to coach, they are disciplined
and will > obey coach's tactical demands to the fullest. But they lack self > initiative which prevents them from reaching true heights. In no > situation will any player's ego step out of the boundaries set > by coach, take personal risk and inspire his
team with rebellion > and emotion. They will always listen to coach "too much". Play > by the book and not risk. So that's Yellows.>> Whites otoh have that ability. They stay within the frame of > tactical approach, but with a necessary touch of
emotional spark > and personal rebellion, not too much, not too little.>>> So based on his racial analysis I feel Whites normally win a > game of chicken vs Yellows?>> It means Trump already won. It's just a matter how big his > victory will be. At one
point China will kiss his ring, even if > it ends up being portrayed as mutual ring kissing of sorts.>> Trump had 0% of the stuff he wanted before all this > started. Once it's over, he'll have 80% or 50% or 20% whatever, > but anything would be bigger
than 0%.>>>>>>>> Btw, it's all like kids in preschool. Anyone that doesn't get >> it now needs to be checked. Imagine the billions of dollars his >> friends made in the stock market, shorting, covering, buying, >> selling on his own pre planned actions.
Isn't this supposed to >> be treated like insider info?>>> Spare me.>> It's capitalism. It has never been fair. >>>> Besides, what insider info? He has been saying it publicly for > years. He has been open with his plans.It's so hilarious to see Trumpers
investing SO much time and effort into propping up Donald's failings. Sawfish does it too, trying to prop up Trump's supposed "masculinity".Read up on narcissistic "shared fantasy" and realize you've been had. Then grow some nuts and admit it.



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*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to respond to Trump.

What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are quiet
about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced Trump
to back down a bit...

China made acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder for
US chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which probably
played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT scared Trump
off, had to cut down number of enemies. China has million and one ways
to fuck up USA if they choose to.

Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise to
US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought that
sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with different rate was
not logistically possible...

The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock & bond
market and got scared.

Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

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TT kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 0.59:

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to
respond to Trump.

What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are quiet about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced Trump
to back down a bit...

China made acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder for
US chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which probably
played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT scared Trump
off, had to cut down number of enemies. China has million and one ways
to fuck up USA if they choose to.

Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise to
US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought that
sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with different rate was
not logistically possible...

The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock & bond market and got scared.

Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

https://x.com/elerianm/status/1910037150957031487

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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:>> Who increased Tariffs first? China or Trump?>>
Trump did increase the tariffs, trying to solve some specific > American problems.>> It's obvious America has to give up on global domination as > Putin warned them in his 2007 speech.>>> So what do you do when you have to retreat, back down?>> You

evacuate, cut your losses and increase stronghold over the > areas you still control, fortify them.>> It's what's Trump doing, asking to leave Afghanistan, trying to > leave Russian sphere in Europe, but at the same time, forcing > his vassals to pay up
more. Taking money from TT, myself to give > that money to bob and jdeluise.>> It's all perfectly normal.>>>>> So in his situation, when you're a bad capitalist, first thing > you're trying to do is break up the unions, no?>> He does that.>> He imposed
tariffs asking for everyone to kiss his ring (beg for > exemption and new deals).>> China refused to kiss his ring, obviously feeling they're too > big for that.>> Trump still won, as everyone else did kiss his ring. World is > full of suckers and ass
kissers and frightened souls. He knows > that. Indians, Arabs, Dutch, and many others, they would sell > their mother for a few dollars. Others simply make logical > choices.>> And then there's a herd mentality, once enough entities have > kissed the
ring, others flock to kiss the ring too feeling > they'd be left alone.>>> Now that almost everyone did kiss his ring, it doesn't matter > how strong the US is or was, in a perception war, Trump won.>> China is now basically alone. The hypothetical world
union is > not formed, it's broken before it was formed.>> So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not > to respond to Trump.>> If others hadn't kissed his ring, China would not have been > slammed with these even bigger tariffs.
Basics.>>>>> So everyone else has been solved, and it's a game of chicken > with China now.>> Both will suffer costs, but Trump is determined to show them > he's more reckless than them and I believe he will do it. He > will win this game proving he's a
madman because Chinese are too > calculated.>>>> My reasoning is this.>> A very successful football (soccer) coach once described three > races.>> Blacks are most athletic but are futile to coach, they mostly > don't listen to anyone or anything.
Discipline and focus is > always a problem.>> Yellows are wonderful to coach, they are disciplined and will > obey coach's tactical demands to the fullest. But they lack self > initiative which prevents them from reaching true heights. In no > situation
will any player's ego step out of the boundaries set > by coach, take personal risk and inspire his team with rebellion > and emotion. They will always listen to coach "too much". Play > by the book and not risk. So that's Yellows.>> Whites otoh have
that ability. They stay within the frame of > tactical approach, but with a necessary touch of emotional spark > and personal rebellion, not too much, not too little.>>> So based on his racial analysis I feel Whites normally win a > game of chicken vs
Yellows?>> It means Trump already won. It's just a matter how big his > victory will be. At one point China will kiss his ring, even if > it ends up being portrayed as mutual ring kissing of sorts.>> Trump had 0% of the stuff he wanted before all this >
started. Once it's over, he'll have 80% or 50% or 20% whatever, > but anything would be bigger than 0%.>>>>>>>> Btw, it's all like kids in preschool. Anyone that doesn't get >> it now needs to be checked. Imagine the billions of dollars his >> friends
made in the stock market, shorting, covering, buying, >> selling on his own pre planned actions. Isn't this supposed to >> be treated like insider info?>>> Spare me.>> It's capitalism. It has never been fair. >>>> Besides, what insider info? He has been
saying it publicly for > years. He has been open with his plans.It's so hilarious to see Trumpers investing SO much time and effort into propping up Donald's failings. Sawfish does it too, trying to prop up Trump's supposed "masculinity".Read up on
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But you were standing on my leg the whole time.

Now that you step aside to prepare to exchange punches, you're not on my leg anymore. So I got what I wanted.

And in time, you'll actually realize there's no need to exchange punches.



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On 09/04/2025 21.36, *skriptis wrote:

Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r

Trump announces a PAUSE of 90 days with reduced tawiffs for many nice countries. But Bad Gina has not shown rispekt and gets even more of the same medicine.https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114309144289505174*Rolls eyes*-- “We need to

acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him. We shouldn’t have listened to him, and we can’t let that happen ever again”.-- Nikki Haley

Those who kissed Don's ring (asked for negotiation) got 90 days delay with mere 10% of tariffs for that period.

China retaliated so Don retaliated to their retaliation.

It's all so simple.

So it seems. But can you apply the kiss-the-ring logic to things that
have a logic of their own? Markets, mid-terms.

The Black Knight says "yes".

Trump now has 90 days to figure out which one of his cabinet of
expendables will find himself under a bus.

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On 10/04/2025 7:59 am, TT wrote:

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to
respond to Trump.

What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are quiet about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced Trump
to back down a bit...

China made acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder for
US chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which probably
played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT scared Trump
off, had to cut down number of enemies. China has million and one ways
to fuck up USA if they choose to.

Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise to
US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought that
sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with different rate was
not logistically possible...

The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock & bond market and got scared.

Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

There's a much bigger 50%+ crash coming relatively soon, gotta know when
to exit.

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On 10/04/2025 16.53, Whisper wrote:

On 10/04/2025 7:59 am, TT wrote:

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to
respond to Trump.

What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are
quiet about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced
Trump to back down a bit...

China made acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder
for US chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which
probably played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT
scared Trump off, had to cut down number of enemies. China has million
and one ways to fuck up USA if they choose to.

Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise
to US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought that
sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with different rate was
not logistically possible...

The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock &
bond market and got scared.

Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

There's a much bigger 50%+ crash coming relatively soon, gotta know when
to exit.

There's 90 days of volatility, that's for sure. These guys are bags of
bricks.

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Whisper kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 16.53:

On 10/04/2025 7:59 am, TT wrote:

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to
respond to Trump.

What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are
quiet about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced
Trump to back down a bit...

China made acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder
for US chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which
probably played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT
scared Trump off, had to cut down number of enemies. China has million
and one ways to fuck up USA if they choose to.

Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise
to US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought that
sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with different rate was
not logistically possible...

The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock &
bond market and got scared.

Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

There's a much bigger 50%+ crash coming relatively soon, gotta know when
to exit.

Could be, could be not. I think the chances are fair. Then again one
could wait a decade for the big one...

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Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 17.37:

On 10/04/2025 16.53, Whisper wrote:

On 10/04/2025 7:59 am, TT wrote:

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:

So now he slammed China even more, setting an example of how not to
respond to Trump.

What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are
quiet about it... is that it may have actually been China which
forced Trump to back down a bit...

China made acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder
for US chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which
probably played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT
scared Trump off, had to cut down number of enemies. China has
million and one ways to fuck up USA if they choose to.

Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise
to US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought that
sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with different rate
was not logistically possible...

The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock &
bond market and got scared.

Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

There's a much bigger 50%+ crash coming relatively soon, gotta know
when to exit.

There's 90 days of volatility, that's for sure. These guys are bags of bricks.

Bessent is starting to annoy me. Said yesterday that 'China has shown to
the world being bad actors' on top of other stuff. Right...

I want to see a SNL sketch of the man.

https://youtu.be/4sQG7kjbgxM?t=503

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On 4/10/2025 3:48 PM, jdeluise wrote:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 1.56:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:> So now he slammed China
even more, setting an example of how not to respond to Trump.What
people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are quiet
about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced
Trump to back down a bit...China made acquisition of minerals for
semiconductor business harder for US chips. AND China ordered its
banks NOT to buy USD - which probably played a role in today's US
interest rate rise. Now THAT scared Trump off, had to cut down
number of enemies. China has million and one ways to fuck up USA if
they choose to.Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming
any merchandise to US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And
one thought that sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with
different rate was not logistically possible...The conventional
talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock & bond market and
got scared.Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have
bought more. SAD!

Never be sad that you didn't buy more shares because you will
  regret the shares you bought. You just watched s01 e02 of   Trump
  presidency. It is four seasons, 100 episodes each

I agree.

Anyway, have now enough stonks for a decent long term portfolio if
market goes up... and if it goes down have still fair amount of dry
powder. But I think I won't be buying more unless the dip is big
enough... and even then carefully. Cool heads & not doing much
probably does best in this maniacal presidency.

I sold most of my stocks/ETFs (but not crypto) last month and I'm glad I
did.

Do you use DCA or VA?  As scal said, it's a really good strategy and
there are some alternative flavors specific to trading I've used with
some success.  But I agree, it's a bit too volatile right now to enter
the market... it might remain too volatile for the duration of Trump's term.  He's also clearly manipulating the market and all of us non-
insider plebs will never be able to keep up.

Agreed. And that is why I do DCA...
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On 4/10/2025 7:55 PM, Sawfish wrote:

On 4/10/25 4:54 PM, Scall5 wrote:

On 4/10/2025 3:48 PM, jdeluise wrote:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 1.56:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:> So now he slammed China
even more, setting an example of how not to respond to Trump.What
people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are
quiet about it... is that it may have actually been China which
forced Trump to back down a bit...China made acquisition of
minerals for semiconductor business harder for US chips. AND China >>>>>> ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which probably played a role in >>>>>> today's US interest rate rise. Now THAT scared Trump off, had to
cut down number of enemies. China has million and one ways to fuck >>>>>> up USA if they choose to.Also, I had a thought that maybe there
wasn't coming any merchandise to US and they noticed it can't go
on like that. And one thought that sprung to mind is that maybe
taxing everything with different rate was not logistically
possible...The conventional talking head wisdom is that Trump
watched stock & bond market and got scared.Anyway, I got a good
chunk of cheap stonks. Could have bought more. SAD!

Never be sad that you didn't buy more shares because you will
  regret the shares you bought. You just watched s01 e02 of   Trump >>>>>   presidency. It is four seasons, 100 episodes each

I agree.

Anyway, have now enough stonks for a decent long term portfolio if
market goes up... and if it goes down have still fair amount of dry
powder. But I think I won't be buying more unless the dip is big
enough... and even then carefully. Cool heads & not doing much
probably does best in this maniacal presidency.

I sold most of my stocks/ETFs (but not crypto) last month and I'm
glad I did.

Do you use DCA or VA?  As scal said, it's a really good strategy and
there are some alternative flavors specific to trading I've used with
some success.  But I agree, it's a bit too volatile right now to
enter the market... it might remain too volatile for the duration of
Trump's term.  He's also clearly manipulating the market and all of
us non- insider plebs will never be able to keep up.

Agreed. And that is why I do DCA...

As I understand it, DCA and VA involve when to add outside funds (cash)
to your portfolio, in a continued investment strategy such as one might
do out of one's salary.

Is this correct? I don't need to know how either works, just where the
new investment money comes from.

Compound interest is the 8th wonder of the world said one. If you have
steady income, you can ride out all the markets ups-and-downs. If you
are on an income from past investments, I have no aid to offer. Sorry.
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jdeluise kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 23.48:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 1.56:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:> So now he slammed China
even more, setting an example of how not to respond to Trump.What
people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at least are quiet
about it... is that it may have actually been China which forced
Trump to back down a bit...China made acquisition of minerals for
semiconductor business harder for US chips. AND China ordered its
banks NOT to buy USD - which probably played a role in today's US
interest rate rise. Now THAT scared Trump off, had to cut down
number of enemies. China has million and one ways to fuck up USA if
they choose to.Also, I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming
any merchandise to US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And
one thought that sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with
different rate was not logistically possible...The conventional
talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock & bond market and
got scared.Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could have
bought more. SAD!

Never be sad that you didn't buy more shares because you will
  regret the shares you bought. You just watched s01 e02 of   Trump
  presidency. It is four seasons, 100 episodes each

I agree.

Anyway, have now enough stonks for a decent long term portfolio if
market goes up... and if it goes down have still fair amount of dry
powder. But I think I won't be buying more unless the dip is big
enough... and even then carefully. Cool heads & not doing much
probably does best in this maniacal presidency.

I sold most of my stocks/ETFs (but not crypto) last month and I'm glad I
did.

Probably not a bad move, especially if you had expensive US stocks.
The problem becomes then when to get back.

Do you use DCA or VA?  As scal said, it's a really good strategy and
there are some alternative flavors specific to trading I've used with
some success.  But I agree, it's a bit too volatile right now to enter
the market... it might remain too volatile for the duration of Trump's term.  He's also clearly manipulating the market and all of us non-
insider plebs will never be able to keep up.

I try to add to stocks when cheap, so I guess that's VA then.
And I try not to trade but HODL.

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On 11/04/2025 19.40, Sawfish wrote:

On 4/10/25 8:34 PM, Scall5 wrote:

On 4/10/2025 7:55 PM, Sawfish wrote:

On 4/10/25 4:54 PM, Scall5 wrote:

On 4/10/2025 3:48 PM, jdeluise wrote:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 10.4.2025 klo 1.56:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis kirjoitti 9.4.2025 klo 22.51:> So now he slammed China >>>>>>>> even more, setting an example of how not to respond to
Trump.What people & talking heads don't seem to realize, or at >>>>>>>> least are quiet about it... is that it may have actually been
China which forced Trump to back down a bit...China made
acquisition of minerals for semiconductor business harder for US >>>>>>>> chips. AND China ordered its banks NOT to buy USD - which
probably played a role in today's US interest rate rise. Now
THAT scared Trump off, had to cut down number of enemies. China >>>>>>>> has million and one ways to fuck up USA if they choose to.Also, >>>>>>>> I had a thought that maybe there wasn't coming any merchandise >>>>>>>> to US and they noticed it can't go on like that. And one thought >>>>>>>> that sprung to mind is that maybe taxing everything with
different rate was not logistically possible...The conventional >>>>>>>> talking head wisdom is that Trump watched stock & bond market
and got scared.Anyway, I got a good chunk of cheap stonks. Could >>>>>>>> have bought more. SAD!

Never be sad that you didn't buy more shares because you will
  regret the shares you bought. You just watched s01 e02 of   Trump >>>>>>>   presidency. It is four seasons, 100 episodes each

I agree.

Anyway, have now enough stonks for a decent long term portfolio if >>>>>> market goes up... and if it goes down have still fair amount of dry >>>>>> powder. But I think I won't be buying more unless the dip is big
enough... and even then carefully. Cool heads & not doing much
probably does best in this maniacal presidency.

I sold most of my stocks/ETFs (but not crypto) last month and I'm
glad I did.

Do you use DCA or VA?  As scal said, it's a really good strategy
and there are some alternative flavors specific to trading I've
used with some success.  But I agree, it's a bit too volatile right >>>>> now to enter the market... it might remain too volatile for the
duration of Trump's term.  He's also clearly manipulating the
market and all of us non- insider plebs will never be able to keep up. >>>>

Agreed. And that is why I do DCA...

As I understand it, DCA and VA involve when to add outside funds
(cash) to your portfolio, in a continued investment strategy such as
one might do out of one's salary.

Is this correct? I don't need to know how either works, just where
the new investment money comes from.

Compound interest is the 8th wonder of the world said one.

That's a simple concept that applies to all of my assets. I was asking
about DCA specifically, Scall.

 If you have

steady income, you can ride out all the markets ups-and-downs.

I do have steady income, from RE investments. The only stream I tap is
rental cashflow, which exceeds living expenses by a fair amount. The
rest has gone to funding acquisitions in the past, but RE is not the
growth market it was when I got into it. This is because of flat
population growth, for the first time in my life, in places where I've
lived (US west coast).

I was thinking about directing some of it into the stock portfolios.

Then the cash for your buys comes from the surplus of the rents you're
paid. And your question is answered. For others, it would come off
what's left of their their salaries at the end of the day.

If you are on an income from past investments, I have no aid to offer.
Sorry.

With luck I can pass it intact to my kid. But it never hurts to make it larger, hence the questions about DCA and VA.

Do you want to know how these work/perform compared to each other? Check
the examples here.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/07/dcavsva.asp

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