Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone wants
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.html
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the form
of legal instrument.
I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and false
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone wants
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.html
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
---------------Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the form
of legal instrument. I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and false
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 3:14:32 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the form
of legal instrument. I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and false
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste---------------
to support your CLAIM.
Everyone is playing the Blame Game! That's Politics As Usual!
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:45:48 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlhttps://tass.com/politics/1674883
"MOSCOW, September 14. /TASS/. Moscow will consider all serious proposals to settle the conflict in Ukraine
if they meet Russia’s legitimate interests, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at talks with Myanmar’s
Foreign Minister Than Swe.
"We are ready to consider any serious proposals that will take into account the realities on the ground and the
basic legitimate interests of the Russian Federation," the Russian minister said in opening remarks.
He said some countries in the Global South had already sent Russia initiatives to resolve the conflict in Ukraine
"apparently driven by sincere motives."
Lavrov also noted that Moscow highly appreciates the "weighted, balanced, objective position of Myanmar
friends in connection with what is happening in Ukraine.""
As is, Moscow has a strong position. Don't think it could really give up the four oblasts which had been
incorporated into Russia, let alone Crimea.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:14:32 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the formExcepting Taiwan, of course.
of legal instrument.
I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and falseThere are a couple of towers in NYC who might disagree.
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:45:55 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:14:32 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them.
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
Sounds like you are new and assuming/faking bmoore. But you don't know China and Taiwan.However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the formExcepting Taiwan, of course.
of legal instrument.
Please familiarize yourself on China and bilateral borders. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.china/c/lpqgo6cKTs8/m/t7gMpy6TAgAJ
I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and falseThere are a couple of towers in NYC who might disagree.
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:45:55 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:14:32 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them.
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
By invading, Russia obviously made it clear that it does not accept the border. But many other countries don't respect the invasion.Sounds like you are new and assuming/faking bmoore. But you don't know China and Taiwan.However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the formExcepting Taiwan, of course.
of legal instrument.
Please familiarize yourself on China and bilateral borders. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.china/c/lpqgo6cKTs8/m/t7gMpy6TAgAJ
I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and falseThere are a couple of towers in NYC who might disagree.
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:45:48 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlhttps://tass.com/politics/1674883
"MOSCOW, September 14. /TASS/. Moscow will consider all serious proposals to settle the conflict in Ukraine
if they meet Russia’s legitimate interests, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at talks with Myanmar’s
Foreign Minister Than Swe.
"We are ready to consider any serious proposals that will take into account the realities on the ground and the
basic legitimate interests of the Russian Federation," the Russian minister said in opening remarks.
He said some countries in the Global South had already sent Russia initiatives to resolve the conflict in Ukraine
"apparently driven by sincere motives."
Lavrov also noted that Moscow highly appreciates the "weighted, balanced, objective position of Myanmar
friends in connection with what is happening in Ukraine.""
As is, Moscow has a strong position. Don't think it could really give up the four oblasts which had been
incorporated into Russia, let alone Crimea.
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:45:55 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:14:32 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them.
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
By invading, Russia obviously made it clear that it does not accept the border. But many other countries don't respect the invasion.Sounds like you are new and assuming/faking bmoore. But you don't know China and Taiwan.However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the formExcepting Taiwan, of course.
of legal instrument.
Please familiarize yourself on China and bilateral borders. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.china/c/lpqgo6cKTs8/m/t7gMpy6TAgAJ
I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and falseThere are a couple of towers in NYC who might disagree.
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:01:15 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:45:55 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:14:32 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:36:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:45:48 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them.
Quite a lot of American commentators do blame US. I posted some of their views. I, myself, have no reason to blame anyone.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlUkraine was attacked by Russia. That is indisputable. You want to blame the US, whatever. But it's on Putin, mostly. Obviously.
Most Russians don't agree with you.By invading, Russia obviously made it clear that it does not accept the border. But many other countries don't respect the invasion.Sounds like you are new and assuming/faking bmoore. But you don't know China and Taiwan.However, I am of the view that a bilateral border is not really anything holy until such border is mutually acceptable in the formExcepting Taiwan, of course.
of legal instrument.
Please familiarize yourself on China and bilateral borders. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.china/c/lpqgo6cKTs8/m/t7gMpy6TAgAJ
"The overwhelming majority of respondents are concerned about both the beginning of the counteroffensive of the
Armed Forces of Ukraine and the supply of Western weapons to Ukraine. Most still hold the United States and NATO
responsible for what is happening. Concern about the possibility of a direct clash between Russia and NATO has
grown markedly over the year. "
https://www.levada.ru/en/2023/07/14/conflict-with-ukraine-assesments-for-late-june-2023/
I also pointed out that US had invaded Afghanistan and Iraq under the Preventive War doctrine and falseThere are a couple of towers in NYC who might disagree.
accusation respectively.
I would prefer you to discuss the issue, not me. However, if you really think I had falsely blamed the US, feel free to cut and paste
to support your CLAIM.
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 11:00:38 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken said."
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:45:48 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-5, ltlee1 wrote:
Rand has a thorough and methodical report on the conflict. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html
Currently, the Russia-Ukraine is at a stalemate and neither side is willing to negotiate.
Allowing the war to drag on would increase the risk of nuclear confrontation and direct
Russia-NATO conflict. Not beneficial to the US and/or NATO allies.
My take:
To persuade Ukraine to the negotiation table and accepting territorial loss, Ukraine is
encouraged/allowed to counterattack with MAXIMAL NATO support until it loses its
forward momentum.
Is the US forcing Ukraine to sue for peace?
"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said he believes that Ukraine is ready to negotiate with Russia if the Russian side shows its interest in diplomacy.
He stated this on the ABC television channel, Ukrinform reports.
"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3759632-blinken-says-ukrainian-authorities-may-agree-to-talks-with-moscow.htmlhttps://tass.com/politics/1674883
"MOSCOW, September 14. /TASS/. Moscow will consider all serious proposals to settle the conflict in Ukraine
if they meet Russia’s legitimate interests, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at talks with Myanmar’s
Foreign Minister Than Swe.
"We are ready to consider any serious proposals that will take into account the realities on the ground and the
basic legitimate interests of the Russian Federation," the Russian minister said in opening remarks.
He said some countries in the Global South had already sent Russia initiatives to resolve the conflict in Ukraine
"apparently driven by sincere motives."
Lavrov also noted that Moscow highly appreciates the "weighted, balanced, objective position of Myanmar
friends in connection with what is happening in Ukraine.""
As is, Moscow has a strong position. Don't think it could really give up the four oblasts which had beenChicago Council had sponsored a survey done by Laveda Center last year.
incorporated into Russia, let alone Crimea.
The report, released last December, was entitled
"Many Russians Support Ukraine Peace Talks but Not Letting Territory Go."
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