"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third of respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s
response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “too
harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and the United States is not
viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit
with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death
prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war
crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation:
They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian
people. But young progressives remain unconvinced of their
government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that
continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of
fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html
ltlee1 wrote:
"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third of respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “too harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and the United States is not viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit
with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation:
They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian
people. But young progressives remain unconvinced of their
government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that
continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.htmlPositioning _significantly_ better than Bidden may be "tricky and risky" IMHO,
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:Don't quite understand. Please elaborate.
"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third ofPositioning _significantly_ better than Bidden may be "tricky and risky" IMHO,
respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s
response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “too
harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and the United States is not
viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit
with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death
prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war
crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation:
They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian
people. But young progressives remain unconvinced of their
government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that
continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of
fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the >> > White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html
"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third of respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “too harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and theUnited States is not viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation: They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian people. But young progressives remainunconvinced of their government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html
ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:IMHO Anti-Biden may easily gain this group of voters at cost of alienating other groups of voters. Gaining them at low cost elsewhere will be
ltlee1 wrote:Don't quite understand. Please elaborate.
"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third ofPositioning _significantly_ better than Bidden may be "tricky and risky" IMHO,
respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s
response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “too
harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and the United States is not >> > viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit
with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death >> > prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war >> > crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation: >> > They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian
people. But young progressives remain unconvinced of their
government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that
continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of
fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the
White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html
"tricky and risky" IMHO,
<paraphrase> Consistency stupid! </paraphrase>
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 12:39:10 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:IMHO Anti-Biden may easily gain this group of voters at cost of alienating >> other groups of voters. Gaining them at low cost elsewhere will be
ltlee1 wrote:Don't quite understand. Please elaborate.
"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third ofPositioning _significantly_ better than Bidden may be "tricky and risky" IMHO,
respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s
response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “too
harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and the United States is not >> >> > viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit
with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death >> >> > prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war >> >> > crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation: >> >> > They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian
people. But young progressives remain unconvinced of their
government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that
continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of
fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the
White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html
"tricky and risky" IMHO,
What other groups of voters? Large groups of voters or small but
wealthy groups of voters? Do the Americans support the ‘special relationship?’
"First, even if it were true that the public had "overwhelming
sympathy" for Israel, it does not immediately follow that United
States policy would necessarily follow suit. U.S. officials frequently
do things that a majority of Americans oppose, ... Second, to the
extent that the American public does have a favorable image of Israel
— and there’s no question that it does — that is at least partly due
to the lobby’s own efforts to shape public discourse and stifle
negative commentary. ... Third, and most important, the evidence
suggests that the American people are not in favor of a one-sided
"special relationship" where Israel gets unconditional American
backing no matter what it does."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/06/03/do-the-american-people-support-the-special-relationship/
ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 12:39:10 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:IMHO Anti-Biden may easily gain this group of voters at cost of alienating
ltlee1 wrote:Don't quite understand. Please elaborate.
"In an Economist/YouGov survey of U.S. adults, more than a third of >> >> > respondents ages 18 to 29 reported that the Israeli government’s >> >> > response to the Oct. 7 attacks that claimed 1,400 lives is “tooPositioning _significantly_ better than Bidden may be "tricky and risky" IMHO,
harsh.” Each day Israel bombards Gazans and the United States is not
viewed as a peacemaker, Mr. Biden’s political position takes a hit >> >> > with younger voters who see the war largely through the life-or-death
prism of human rights.
To be clear, most 20- and 30-somethings agree that Hamas committed war
crimes in Israel. Most do not look at this as an either/or situation:
They want America to help both the Israeli and the Palestinian
people. But young progressives remain unconvinced of their
government’s commitment to safeguarding the innocent. If that
continues, the winning Biden 2020 coalition is at greater risk of
fracturing — and in the process, making Donald Trump’s return to the
White House more likely."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/joe-biden-polling.html
other groups of voters. Gaining them at low cost elsewhere will be
"tricky and risky" IMHO,
What other groups of voters? Large groups of voters or small but
wealthy groups of voters? Do the Americans support the ‘special relationship?’
"First, even if it were true that the public had "overwhelming
sympathy" for Israel, it does not immediately follow that United
States policy would necessarily follow suit. U.S. officials frequently
do things that a majority of Americans oppose, ... Second, to the
extent that the American public does have a favorable image of Israel
— and there’s no question that it does — that is at least partly due to the lobby’s own efforts to shape public discourse and stifle
negative commentary. ... Third, and most important, the evidence
suggests that the American people are not in favor of a one-sided
"special relationship" where Israel gets unconditional American
backing no matter what it does."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/06/03/do-the-american-people-support-the-special-relationship/Of you insist on full cynicism: There will be money to alienate other
group of voters (using other issues).
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