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  • Re: =?utf-8?Q?It=E2=80=99s?= Not Just the Killing. Why Must Israel Dehu

    From A. Filip@21:1/5 to bmoore on Tue Dec 19 15:24:13 2023
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
    […]
    Killing is wrong by either side. Why blame Israel but not Hamas? It's obviously hypocritical, but some people do it anyway. Sad.

    Hamas is designated as "a terrorist organization".
    Doesn't it lower expectations a lot?
    Israel fails a victim to higher expectations.

    Do you ask to lower expectation for Israel to Hamas level?
    Hail the law of undesired consequences.

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    A. Filip
    | The coast was clear. (Lope de Vega)

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to bmoore on Tue Dec 19 20:51:17 2023
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 6:24:48 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:
    […]
    Killing is wrong by either side. Why blame Israel but not Hamas? It's
    obviously hypocritical, but some people do it anyway. Sad.
    Hamas is designated as "a terrorist organization".
    Doesn't it lower expectations a lot?
    Israel fails a victim to higher expectations.

    Do you ask to lower expectation for Israel to Hamas level?

    Hail the law of undesired consequences.

    No, but it's good to see you admit that Hamas is low. Some here refuse
    to acknowledge that. That's my point.

    I don't acknowledge it (officially). IMHO Denying it
    (strongly/directly) would be plain stupid unless you are
    "a very interested party".

    Anyway new round of remembrance about terrorist founding fathers of
    Israel is unavoidable IMHO.

    I can muster a little sympathy for Hamas only based on logic below:

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Emiliano_Zapata
    Emiliano Zapata Salazar (8 August 1879 – 10 April 1919) […]

    Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas.
    I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

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    A. Filip
    | It's easier to take it apart than to put it back together.
    | (Washlesky)

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to bmoore on Thu Dec 21 18:30:56 2023
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 5:24:51 AM UTC-8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 7:26:54 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    […]
    Just isolated atrocities or killing and subjugation with genocidal intent?

    Do you support thee goal of ending the existence of Israel?
    […]

    Do you suggest that end of "State of Israel as it is now" MUST mean
    something like second Holocaust? It is pretty wide spread
    indirect/implied demagogy IMHO.

    Jews had somehow survived 2_000 years without Jewish State.

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    A. Filip
    | The future is a race between education and catastrophe.
    | (H. G. Wells)

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to bmoore on Thu Dec 21 19:49:22 2023
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 9:31:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 5:24:51 AM UTC-8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 7:26:54 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    […]
    Just isolated atrocities or killing and subjugation with genocidal intent?

    Do you support thee goal of ending the existence of Israel?
    […]

    Do you suggest that end of "State of Israel as it is now" MUST mean
    something like second Holocaust? It is pretty wide spread
    indirect/implied demagogy IMHO.

    Jews had somehow survived 2_000 years without Jewish State.

    Hamas wants to kill all Jews.

    Could you provide supporting links? Is it your personal opinion/projection? Without supporting evidence (or at very least much more precision) it is
    as valid as claim that Israel wants to kill all Palestinians in Gaza Strip.

    AFAIR Israel _minster_ from Jewish Power party "suggested" using
    Israel's nukes in Gaza *twice*. Could it be done without many+
    civilian casualties?

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    A. Filip
    | Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write.
    | (Trollope)

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