• Democracy Now

    From AAA KKK@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 19 22:34:09 2024
    China must become a democracy Now.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 22 22:10:17 2024
    China is democracy now.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 26 19:47:23 2024
    In article <df60b445d74a3246d2ddd552164d7577@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    China is democracy now.

    Since when?

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 19:04:44 2024
    It depends on what criteria are used.
    A small number of people from far away places?
    Whether racial, gender equality should be equal and etc.
    As a matter of procedure or outcome based, democratic processes as a
    plan and democratic processes in the real world is different things.

    The US as well as other democratic nations, for example China, have the
    same problem. After all, no God had ever decreed which nation is
    democratic.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 30 16:34:40 2024
    In article <2ad9032b41593beb20fe4e750a2aebb9@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    It depends on what criteria are used.

    So what criteria are being used?

    A small number of people from far away places?
    Whether racial, gender equality should be equal and etc.
    As a matter of procedure or outcome based, democratic processes as a
    plan and democratic processes in the real world is different things.

    The US as well as other democratic nations, for example China, have the
    same problem.

    China is not democratic. Maybe you meant the island democracy of Taiwan?

    After all, no God had ever decreed which nation is
    democratic.

    So what criteria are being used?

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 30 16:54:03 2024
    My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way,
    Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
    is ROC.)

    The PRC is democratic because it enables and empowers the people work
    hard for themselves and for the nation.
    Procedurally, it is called democratic centralism. And of course, the
    Chinese people themselves considered: 1) democracy is important and 2)
    China is democratic according polls.


    Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the
    People. " https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree

    The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll
    looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
    the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese
    people.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 30 23:05:29 2024
    In article <b057c4e69b0bac2e8f56b4e475a58b44@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way,
    Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
    is ROC.)

    Everyone knows what Taiwan is. Call it ROC, Chinese Taipei, doesn't matter.


    The PRC is democratic because it enables and empowers the people work
    hard for themselves and for the nation.
    Procedurally, it is called democratic centralism. And of course, the
    Chinese people themselves considered: 1) democracy is important and 2)
    China is democratic according polls.


    Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the >People. " >https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree

    The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll >looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
    the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese >people.

    Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 31 12:18:52 2024
    In article <b057c4e69b0bac2e8f56b4e475a58b44@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way, >>Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
    is ROC.)

    Everyone knows what Taiwan is. Call it ROC, Chinese Taipei, doesn't
    matter.

    1) Who is your everyone? Many, for example, the other poster do not seem
    to know that. For your information, Taipei is the name of a city, not
    the capital of a country.

    2) ROC has its constitution, called ROC Constitution. Taiwan does not.
    ROC Constitution entails the vision of the Chinese people on how the ROC
    should be, then, now, and in the future. According to the ROC
    Constitution, Mainland China and Taiwan belong to the same country
    called China and of One Chinese People.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 31 12:27:04 2024
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the >>People. " >>https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might->>disagree

    The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll >>looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
    the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese >>people.

    Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.

    Whatever.
    Meaningless unless you are also providing contradicting evidence from legitimate source.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 31 12:55:44 2024
    In article <e569e4b1a2428962843f73e79a5da92d@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the >>>People. " >>>https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might->>disagree

    The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll >>>looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some >>>the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese >>>people.

    Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.

    Whatever.
    Meaningless unless you are also providing contradicting evidence from >legitimate source.

    It's not hard to find. Even the pollsters admit that.

    But there is no evidence that the polls can be trusted.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 1 23:26:26 2024
    In article <c753b34cb5515c8a15bf9e4f99f18cfc@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    In article <b057c4e69b0bac2e8f56b4e475a58b44@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way, >>>Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name >>>is ROC.)

    Everyone knows what Taiwan is. Call it ROC, Chinese Taipei, doesn't
    matter.

    1) Who is your everyone? Many, for example, the other poster do not seem
    to know that.

    Why? The OP said nothing to indicate that.

    For your information, Taipei is the name of a city, not
    the capital of a country.

    The IOC would disagree.

    2) ROC has its constitution, called ROC Constitution. Taiwan does not.
    ROC Constitution entails the vision of the Chinese people on how the ROC >should be, then, now, and in the future. According to the ROC
    Constitution, Mainland China and Taiwan belong to the same country
    called China and of One Chinese People.

    Again, call it Taiwan or something else, whatever.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sun Sep 1 23:29:44 2024
    In article <1725108944.691998@nyx2.nyx.net>, bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
    In article <e569e4b1a2428962843f73e79a5da92d@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the >>>>People. " >>>>https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might->>disagree

    The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll >>>>looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some >>>>the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese >>>>people.

    Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.

    Whatever.
    Meaningless unless you are also providing contradicting evidence from >>legitimate source.

    It's not hard to find. Even the pollsters admit that.

    But there is no evidence that the polls can be trusted.

    And it's a joke to constantly disparage the Western press except when their articles support your viewpoint.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 15:05:48 2024
    I start a new thread to answer your comment.

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