• Sighting of the moon

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 3 18:39:18 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
    trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
    auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
    other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
    this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
    is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
    which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
    But I always cite the moon. :-)

    Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
    of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
    you do.

    Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
    who I previously called avatar types) would have been
    able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
    they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
    glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
    focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
    they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
    head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 4 02:27:37 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Sep 3, 2024, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2C87B27E00206E2770000FB1338F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
    trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
    auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
    other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
    this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
    is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
    which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
    But I always cite the moon. :-)

    Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
    of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
    you do.

    Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
    who I previously called avatar types) would have been
    able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
    they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
    glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
    focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
    they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

    It is now 27 hours after dark moon and the moon is 1.2%
    waxing crescent. However I doubt it will be sighted before
    the evening of September 4.

    The Silver Bough thumb

    Once in 1997 I thumbed at random a book on Scottish folklore
    called The Silver Bough Vol. 1 by F. Marian McNeill. It came
    out to a page with this poem on it:

    Ri faicinn domh na gealaich uir,
    Is duth domh mo shuil a thogail.
    Is duth domh ma ghlun a leagail,
    Is duth domh mo cheann a bhogadh,

    Toir cliu dhuit fein, a re nan iul,
    Gum faca mi thu a rithist,
    Gum faca mi a ghealach ur,
    Ailleagan iuil na slighe.

    Is iomadh neach a chaidh a null
    Eadar uine an da ghealaich,
    Ged tha mise a' mealtainn fuinn,
    A re nan re 's nam beannachd!

    which translates as:

    When I see the new moon,
    It becomes me to lift mine eye,
    It becomes me to bend my knee,
    It becomes me to bow my head.

    Giving thee praise, thou moon of guidance,
    That I have seen thee again,
    That I have seen the new moon,
    The lovely leader of the way.

    Many a one has passed beyond
    In the time between the two moons,
    Though I am still enjoying earth,
    Thou moon of moons and of blessings!

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
    head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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  • From kami@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed Sep 4 18:59:35 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Tue, 03 Sep 2024 18:39:18 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread Raven and the First Men, revisited
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.


    is there any medication you are on?

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 4 18:39:54 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Sep 3, 2024, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2C87B27E00206E2770000FB1338F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
    trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
    auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
    other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
    this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
    is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
    which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
    But I always cite the moon. :-)

    Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
    of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
    you do.

    Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
    who I previously called avatar types) would have been
    able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
    they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
    glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
    focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
    they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

    According to a news.google.com search for
    sighting of the moon
    it was sighted in Hyderabad (or nearby) on September 4,
    but was not sighted in Islamabad (or nearby) so they
    anticipate a sighting of September 5 there.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
    head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to kami on Wed Sep 4 19:01:19 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Sep 4, 2024, kami wrote
    (in article <1n2gjf4yttw26$.dlg@tomato.potato>):

    On Tue, 03 Sep 2024 18:39:18 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread ´Raven and the First Men, revisited¡
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    is there any medication you are on?

    I am on moderate doses of divalproex sodium (a mood stabilizer)
    and olanzapine (an atypical antipsychotic that also has some
    mood stabilizing and antidepressant effects).

    My comparison of myself on my Salmon on the Thorns web page
    to some past religious figures is not based on voices in my head
    (which I don’t have) but is based on analysis of patterns and
    significant individual events in my mystic cycles in the last
    33 years, and comparison of those to those of past figures.

    How do I claim to have a global region?

    The majority of past human ootws had seven low/working years.
    These include Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Amergin, Taliesin, and
    many more. Some had fourteen low/working years and
    a larger region than the 7-years ones. These include
    Jacob, Moses, Mohammed, Rama, Glooskap, Tsangyang
    Gyatso, and more. I have had 28.6 low/working years
    so far, and have a global region, partly since my baseline
    is from St. John’s to Vancouver, and partly due to the
    extent of the Internet.

    My magickal thinking/religious beliefs would not be
    affected at all by an increase in medication, which
    however might contribute to physical effects such
    as liver damage, diabetes, and weight gain. Also my
    relations with other people offline are good, while I
    allow myself to be more eccentric online, and with
    my real name, unlike you. Also I do not believe for
    certain that my magickal workings are having an
    effect (indeed I know they are not yet), and won’t
    without evidence, so I can’t be accused of being
    delusional.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
    head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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  • From kami@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Thu Sep 5 18:45:28 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 19:01:19 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 4, 2024, kami wrote
    (in article <1n2gjf4yttw26$.dlg@tomato.potato>):

    On Tue, 03 Sep 2024 18:39:18 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread ´Raven and the First Men, revisited¡
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    is there any medication you are on?

    I am on moderate doses of divalproex sodium (a mood stabilizer)
    and olanzapine (an atypical antipsychotic that also has some
    mood stabilizing and antidepressant effects).

    My comparison of myself on my Salmon on the Thorns web page
    to some past religious figures is not based on voices in my head
    (which I don’t have) but is based on analysis of patterns and
    significant individual events in my mystic cycles in the last
    33 years, and comparison of those to those of past figures.

    How do I claim to have a global region?

    The majority of past human ootws had seven low/working years.
    These include Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Amergin, Taliesin, and
    many more. Some had fourteen low/working years and
    a larger region than the 7-years ones. These include
    Jacob, Moses, Mohammed, Rama, Glooskap, Tsangyang
    Gyatso, and more. I have had 28.6 low/working years
    so far, and have a global region, partly since my baseline
    is from St. John’s to Vancouver, and partly due to the
    extent of the Internet.

    My magickal thinking/religious beliefs would not be
    affected at all by an increase in medication, which
    however might contribute to physical effects such
    as liver damage, diabetes, and weight gain. Also my
    relations with other people offline are good, while I
    allow myself to be more eccentric online, and with
    my real name, unlike you. Also I do not believe for
    certain that my magickal workings are having an
    effect (indeed I know they are not yet), and won’t
    without evidence, so I can’t be accused of being
    delusional.


    thats good to know. so i mean, what's the deal, how do you
    continue developing your magickal inquiries without any evidence?
    also, what were the circumstances surrounding your prescription?

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to kami on Thu Sep 5 16:39:28 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.indian, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Sep 5, 2024, kami wrote
    (in article <1sllpvlc42slu$.dlg@tomato.potato>):

    On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 19:01:19 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 4, 2024, kami wrote
    (in article <1n2gjf4yttw26$.dlg@tomato.potato>):

    On Tue, 03 Sep 2024 18:39:18 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread ´Raven and the First Men, revisited¡
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    is there any medication you are on?

    I am on moderate doses of divalproex sodium (a mood stabilizer)
    and olanzapine (an atypical antipsychotic that also has some
    mood stabilizing and antidepressant effects).

    My comparison of myself on my Salmon on the Thorns web page
    to some past religious figures is not based on voices in my head
    (which I don’t have) but is based on analysis of patterns and
    significant individual events in my mystic cycles in the last
    33 years, and comparison of those to those of past figures.

    How do I claim to have a global region?

    The majority of past human ootws had seven low/working years.
    These include Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Amergin, Taliesin, and
    many more. Some had fourteen low/working years and
    a larger region than the 7-years ones. These include
    Jacob, Moses, Mohammed, Rama, Glooskap, Tsangyang
    Gyatso, and more. I have had 28.6 low/working years
    so far, and have a global region, partly since my baseline
    is from St. John’s to Vancouver, and partly due to the
    extent of the Internet.

    My magickal thinking/religious beliefs would not be
    affected at all by an increase in medication, which
    however might contribute to physical effects such
    as liver damage, diabetes, and weight gain. Also my
    relations with other people offline are good, while I
    allow myself to be more eccentric online, and with
    my real name, unlike you. Also I do not believe for
    certain that my magickal workings are having an
    effect (indeed I know they are not yet), and won’t
    without evidence, so I can’t be accused of being
    delusional.

    thats good to know. so i mean, what's the deal, how do you
    continue developing your magickal inquiries without any evidence?
    also, what were the circumstances surrounding your prescription?

    Well, in each attempt I get feedback from Goddess (who I define
    as the ruler of the region all/everything) by perineum click
    (short period mula bandha) divination, basically with a click
    at each supposed correct answer. In this I often get a series
    of many yes-es, but then after a day or so, with lack of
    evidence, I get a big no, and have to try again, generally
    with one or more changes. I hope that I these changes and
    dry runs have finally converged and that I will succeed
    in my next attempt beginning in an hour and 16 minutes.

    As for the circumstances surrounding my prescription,
    they are described on my Salmon on the Thorns web page.
    But I did have a mild depression in 1986 and then my
    first waning crescent high in early September 1991 had
    many features of a manic episode.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
    head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 6 20:39:06 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.israel, alt.messianic

    On Sep 3, 2024, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2C87B27E00206E2770000FB1338F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
    is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
    on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
    that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

    My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
    trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
    auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
    other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
    this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
    is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
    which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
    But I always cite the moon. :-)

    Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
    of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
    you do.

    Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
    who I previously called avatar types) would have been
    able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
    they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
    glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
    focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
    they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

    It seems my workings could not begin at dark moon but
    instead after my first local sighting of the waxing crescent.

    I viewed the waxing crescent for the first time this lunar month at
    exactly sunset, 7:30 p.m. NDT (2200 UTC/GMT) September 6, 2024,
    almost four days after the exact time of new (dark) moon.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
    head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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