• Re: How the US won in both theaters of WWII

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 17:21:29 2024
    The subject issue of the quoted article entitled "Trump and the Future
    of American Power" is, of course, about the Future of American Power.

    For forever reason, Stephen Kotkin suggests an alternative
    interpretation on WWII. Rather than the common US understanding that
    it's involvement had saved Europe from Hilter and Asia from Imperial
    Japan. Kotkin the historian sees involvement as more limited.

    How about US role in post WWII global development? The following is the question and Kotkin's answer.

    [Question:]"Earlier this year, you wrote this in Foreign Affairs: “The supreme irony of American grand strategy for the past 70 years is that
    it worked, fostering an integrated world of impressive and shared
    prosperity, and yet is now being abandoned. The United States was open
    for business to its adversaries, without reciprocation. Today, however, so-called industrial policy and protectionism are partially closing the
    country not just to rivals but also to U.S. allies, partners, friends,
    and potential friends. American policy has come to resemble
    China’s—right when the latter has hit a wall.”

    How does Trump fit into that story?

    [Kotkin:] Well, we weren’t ready for our success. The goal was to create
    this open global system that everyone could join and prosper from: a
    liberal international order. And it was going to be amazing for
    everybody. And they could join on a voluntary basis, not through some
    coercive “spheres of influence” approach. And they were going to get wealthy; they were going to go from poor to middle income. Win-win.

    And it worked. It happened. It’s stunning how many people around the
    world benefited from this U.S.-led order, including in America. And
    we’re not just talking about China; we’re also talking about India. It’s our neighbors, too, in Mexico. And it’s the developed world, as well, to
    a certain extent: Japan and Germany, the two enemies of World War II,
    became our closest allies and the second- and third-largest economies. There’s never been a geopolitical turnabout bigger than that.

    So it worked, but we’re not ready for this success. It turns out that
    well, geez, you know, these other countries, they want a voice. They’re
    not just going to become middle-income countries and continue to be told
    what to do. They want international institutions that reflect their achievements, their hard work, their entrepreneurialism, their creation
    of middle classes, their place in the world. They’re justifiably proud countries. And we don’t know how to accommodate their aspirations. The conventional argument is seductive: the liberal order is supremely
    flexible and can accommodate everybody, and so therefore it’s going to survive. But it doesn’t work in the Iranian case, it doesn’t work in the Russian case, and it doesn’t work in the Chinese case. What are the
    terms of the accommodation? They see themselves, in several cases, as
    rooted in ancient civilizations that predate the U.S.-led order. What if
    they don’t accept our terms, even if they’re the beneficiaries?"

    What's wrong with the above Q and A?
    IF post WWII American grand strategy has worked, why and for how long?

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 16:45:06 2024
    "The United States is used to renting a land army. That’s how U.S.
    military power works. It’s a lend-lease approach to war. In World War
    II, we sent the Studebakers and the Jeeps and the radios and the Spam,
    and the Soviets sent 27 million people to die in defeating Hitler’s land army. In the Pacific theater, we sent Chiang Kai-shek some planes and
    weapons, and he provided the soldiers. And he lost at least 13 million.
    So we rented the Soviet land army in one theater and the Chinese land
    army in another theater, and we sent materiel and finances, and we won
    in both theaters as a result."

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/trump-and-future-american-power-stephen-kotkin

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