• U.S. sanctions inadvertently sharpen China's edge

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 21:05:40 2025
    From Asian.Nikkei March 28, 2025

    "Henny Sender is the founder and managing partner of Apsara Advisory, a strategic consultancy for financial services companies. She was
    previously a managing director at investment company BlackRock.

    The stunning debut of Chinese AI firm DeepSeek was a reminder to global investors that Chinese entrepreneurs can still challenge the
    technological supremacy of the U.S. -- and in so doing, give Chinese
    stock markets a significant boost. Since its January trough, the MSCI
    China index is up 20%, while most U.S. equity indexes are in negative territory. So much for American exceptionalism."

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 2 21:14:00 2025
    ltlee1@hotmail.com (ltlee1) wrote:
    From Asian.Nikkei March 28, 2025

    "Henny Sender is the founder and managing partner of Apsara Advisory, a strategic consultancy for financial services companies. She was
    previously a managing director at investment company BlackRock.

    The stunning debut of Chinese AI firm DeepSeek was a reminder to global investors that Chinese entrepreneurs can still challenge the
    technological supremacy of the U.S. -- and in so doing, give Chinese
    stock markets a significant boost. Since its January trough, the MSCI
    China index is up 20%, while most U.S. equity indexes are in negative territory. So much for American exceptionalism."

    Hail Chinese exceptionalism! :-)

    --
    A. Filip
    | Blessed is the man who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving
    | wordy evidence of the fact. (George Eliot)

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 15:26:23 2025
    Hail to Confucianism based Educational Exceptionalism: 大学之道,在明明德,在亲民,在止于至善(Very Bad Google Translate: The way of a university
    is to manifest the bright virtue, to be close to the people, and to stop
    at the highest good.)

    "How? Jörg Wuttke, a former longtime president of the E.U. Chamber of
    Commerce in China, calls it “the China fitness club,” and it works like this:

    China starts with an emphasis on STEM education — science, technology, engineering and math. Each year, the country produces some 3.5 million
    STEM graduates, about equal the number of graduates from associate, bachelor’s, master’s and Ph.D. programs in all disciplines in the United States.

    When you have that many STEM graduates, you can throw more talent at any problem than anyone else. As the Times Beijing bureau chief, Keith
    Bradsher, reported last year: “China has 39 universities with programs
    to train engineers and researchers for the rare earths industry.
    Universities in the United States and Europe have mostly offered only occasional courses.” (I Just Saw the Future. It Was Not in America.
    Thomas L. Friedman April 2, 2025)

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 3 16:49:18 2025
    In article <492918d802457f4eda22e90b0156cb94@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Hail to Confucianism based Educational Exceptionalism: >大学之道,在明明德,在亲民,在止于至善(Very Bad Google Translate: The way of a university
    is to manifest the bright virtue, to be close to the people, and to stop
    at the highest good.)

    "How? Jörg Wuttke, a former longtime president of the E.U. Chamber of >Commerce in China, calls it “the China fitness club,” and it works like >this:

    China starts with an emphasis on STEM education — science, technology, >engineering and math. Each year, the country produces some 3.5 million
    STEM graduates, about equal the number of graduates from associate, >bachelor’s, master’s and Ph.D. programs in all disciplines in the United >States.

    When you have that many STEM graduates, you can throw more talent at any >problem than anyone else. As the Times Beijing bureau chief, Keith
    Bradsher, reported last year: “China has 39 universities with programs
    to train engineers and researchers for the rare earths industry.
    Universities in the United States and Europe have mostly offered only >occasional courses.” (I Just Saw the Future. It Was Not in America. >Thomas L. Friedman April 2, 2025)

    This is true. Of course China has a lot more STEM graduates; it has a lot more people. Still, that is an advantage.
    Also, it's only natural that China should train so many people in the rare earths industry; they have 70% of the
    world's production and far more reserves than anyone else (Brazil is a distant second). Still, that is also an
    advantage.

    https://www.newsweek.com/map-countries-largest-rare-earth-reserves-china-greenland-ukraine-2040424

    Might as include the paragraph before the ones quoted:

    "But you’re also wrong if you think that China only cheated its way to global manufacturing dominance.
    It did cheat, copy and force technology transfers. But what makes China’s manufacturing juggernaut so powerful today is
    not that it just makes things cheaper; it makes them cheaper, faster, better, smarter and increasingly infused with
    A.I."

    and after:

    "And while many Chinese engineers may not graduate with M.I.T.-level skills, the best are world class, and there are a
    lot of them. There are 1.4 billion people there. That means that in China, when you are a one-in-a-million talent,
    there are 1,400 other people just like you.

    Just as important, Chinese vocational schools graduate tens of thousands of electricians, welders, carpenters,
    mechanics and plumbers every year, so when someone has an idea for a new product and wants to throw up a factory, it
    can get built really fast. You need a pink polka dot button that can sing the Chinese national anthem backward? Someone
    here will have it for you by tomorrow. It will also get delivered fast. Over 550 Chinese cities are connected by
    high-speed rail that makes our Amtrak Acela look like the Pony Express.

    And when you relentlessly digitize and connect everything to everything, you can get in and out of your hotel room
    fast with just facial recognition. Tech-savvy beggars who carry printouts of QR codes can accept donations fast by the
    scan of a cellphone. The whole system is set up for speed — including if you challenge the rule of the Communist Party,
    in which case, you will be arrested fast, given the security cameras everywhere, and disappear fast."

    It all sounds good for the Chinese people, except that bit about disappearing if you challenge the government. Trump
    would like to make the US like that, but even his MAGA supporters will rebel against that - hopefully. And the
    legislative and judicial branches are not rubber stamps for the executive branch's efforts to turn the US into North
    Korea or China. At least not yet.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 19:07:55 2025
    Whatever.

    I believe American reporters and commentators know America and Americans
    well. They are invariably American experts. In constrast, most are a lot
    more ignorant about China and Chinese. I would have little problem with
    what they report on facts such as how many universities have what
    courses to train engineers on what specialty. In contrast, I would not
    take their comments and/or speculation seriously. Have no reason to.

    The quality of any press is, inevitably, limited by their readers and
    viewers. A TV broadcaster, serving color blind viewers has no reason to
    show TV program in colors other than black and white. TV program on
    color is still possible. But no real colors need to be shown.

    Anyway, how well a democracy enables maximum freedom for the people
    rests on two pillars. Confucianism address these two pillars front and
    center. One just needs to read and understand the Great Learning (Not
    the Google translated version).

    "Great Learning" means learning to achieve best governance, not
    "university" as translated by Google. One pillar is to upgrade the
    quality of people such that they advance themselves with time. And can
    be all that they could be. The other pillar is how the the officials
    could and should self-cultivate themselves constantly.

    Given that democracy and freedom depends on the quality of the people as
    well as the officials, I dare say, China has the best democratic and
    freedom credential.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 3 21:28:19 2025
    In article <ef6e3fd79fed711ae5c1fe1a7202aa52@www.novabbs.com>,
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Whatever.

    I believe American reporters and commentators know America and Americans >well. They are invariably American experts. In constrast, most are a lot
    more ignorant about China and Chinese. I would have little problem with
    what they report on facts such as how many universities have what
    courses to train engineers on what specialty. In contrast, I would not
    take their comments and/or speculation seriously. Have no reason to.

    The FACT that the PRC government disappears people has been widely documented by Chinese. Not
    by just one person but many. Dismissing all reports of the PRC government's brutality is saying
    that every single report is false. Why should we believe every report is false? Have no reason to.

    The quality is, inevitably, limited by their readers and
    viewers. A TV broadcaster, serving color blind viewers has no reason to
    show TV program in colors other than black and white. TV program on
    color is still possible. But no real colors need to be shown.

    Anyway, how well a democracy enables maximum freedom for the people
    rests on two pillars. Confucianism address these two pillars front and >center. One just needs to read and understand the Great Learning (Not
    the Google translated version).

    "Great Learning" means learning to achieve best governance, not
    "university" as translated by Google. One pillar is to upgrade the
    quality of people such that they advance themselves with time. And can
    be all that they could be. The other pillar is how the the officials
    could and should self-cultivate themselves constantly.

    Given that democracy and freedom depends on the quality of the people as
    well as the officials, I dare say, China has the best democratic and
    freedom credential.

    Whatever.

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