Robin DavermanActually, all of UDS ships are built by the Chinese. The Chinese are good at it.
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We lost an F35 in the South China Sea. What are the chances we can recover it before the Chinese? And if we can’t recover it, how would we render it useless to them?
We lost an F35 in the South China Sea. What are the chances we can recover it before the Chinese? And if we can’t recover it, how would we render it useless to them?
LOL. Have you considered just hiring the Chinese to recover the wreckage?
Look, the US had already dropped another F-35 in 2018. In the Japan Sea. The US hired Ultra Deep Solutions (UDS) to try to recover it. UDS sent their flagship Lichtenstein. Oh but look, Lichtenstein was built by China Merchants Heavy Industries.
A year earlier South Korea wanted to recover the 1,000-person capacity ferry ship Sewol, and they hired Shanghai Salvage Co. to do it. That was a 145 meter, 7,000 ton ship. Lifted it up without any problem. $75 million contract. Who else can beat theprice? In that part of the world you simply go to the Chinese for this sort of things.
Basically the Navy doesn’t do marine engineering themselves so they have to outsource it to somebody. If you outsource it directly to the Chinese, it’ll be done in a matter of weeks and at the lowest cost. And you can just sit with them and watchlike a hawk. If you outsource it to someone else they’ll ask for a 900% mark-up and a 6-month project time and still outsource it to the Chinese one way or another. In the meantime the entire Carrier Group are like hanging over the wreckage area at a
And having the entire carrier group sitting there doesn’t even do any good. The aircraft was lost over fairly deep sea. Like 3,000 - 4,000 meters (~ 10,000 ft). So it’s going to be blown away by the ocean current like a falling leaf. It’s notgoing to be directly under where you last saw it. You have to find it first. And … right now the best deep ocean submergible is Chinese, who just used it in the Mariana trench…
New Chinese submersible reaches Earth's deepest ocean trenchit all over the world. If you are trying to sell something then you’ll be raining the specs on so many people, that if these people have a choice they’d say “you are harassing me” and block you. If there are already so many people know it you can
China livestreamed footage of its new manned submersible parked at the bottom of the ocean Friday, the latest foray by the country's scientists into the Earth's deepest ocean trench.
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-chinese-submersible-earth-deepest-ocean.html PS: If you want to keep something secret, you should keep it in the basement, don’t tell anybody, and don’t use it in front of other people. If you use it, it’s going to get lost, damaged, stolen. If you use it in war then there will be pieces of
Also the salvage work is hard, dangerous, highly technical, and expensive while the market is very small and uncertain. Unless you have a huge fleet that’s gonna generate a bit of regular demand, it doesn’t make any economic sense to have ityourself. That’s why everybody else just rent it when they really need it.
Robin DavermanActually, all of UDS ships are built by the Chinese. The Chinese are good at it.
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We lost an F35 in the South China Sea. What are the chances we can recover it before the Chinese? And if we can’t recover it, how would we render it useless to them?
We lost an F35 in the South China Sea. What are the chances we can recover it before the Chinese? And if we can’t recover it, how would we render it useless to them?
LOL. Have you considered just hiring the Chinese to recover the wreckage?
Look, the US had already dropped another F-35 in 2018. In the Japan Sea. The US hired Ultra Deep Solutions (UDS) to try to recover it. UDS sent their flagship Lichtenstein. Oh but look, Lichtenstein was built by China Merchants Heavy Industries.
A year earlier South Korea wanted to recover the 1,000-person capacity ferry ship Sewol, and they hired Shanghai Salvage Co. to do it. That was a 145 meter, 7,000 ton ship. Lifted it up without any problem. $75 million contract. Who else can beat theprice? In that part of the world you simply go to the Chinese for this sort of things.
Basically the Navy doesn’t do marine engineering themselves so they have to outsource it to somebody. If you outsource it directly to the Chinese, it’ll be done in a matter of weeks and at the lowest cost. And you can just sit with them and watchlike a hawk. If you outsource it to someone else they’ll ask for a 900% mark-up and a 6-month project time and still outsource it to the Chinese one way or another. In the meantime the entire Carrier Group are like hanging over the wreckage area at a
And having the entire carrier group sitting there doesn’t even do any good. The aircraft was lost over fairly deep sea. Like 3,000 - 4,000 meters (~ 10,000 ft). So it’s going to be blown away by the ocean current like a falling leaf. It’s notgoing to be directly under where you last saw it. You have to find it first. And … right now the best deep ocean submergible is Chinese, who just used it in the Mariana trench…
New Chinese submersible reaches Earth's deepest ocean trenchit all over the world. If you are trying to sell something then you’ll be raining the specs on so many people, that if these people have a choice they’d say “you are harassing me” and block you. If there are already so many people know it you can
China livestreamed footage of its new manned submersible parked at the bottom of the ocean Friday, the latest foray by the country's scientists into the Earth's deepest ocean trench.
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-chinese-submersible-earth-deepest-ocean.html PS: If you want to keep something secret, you should keep it in the basement, don’t tell anybody, and don’t use it in front of other people. If you use it, it’s going to get lost, damaged, stolen. If you use it in war then there will be pieces of
Also the salvage work is hard, dangerous, highly technical, and expensive while the market is very small and uncertain. Unless you have a huge fleet that’s gonna generate a bit of regular demand, it doesn’t make any economic sense to have ityourself. That’s why everybody else just rent it when they really need it.
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