The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
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The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger and threatenUS hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.
It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It took militaryactions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.
This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under DPP, US
The Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists and the
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony until the
Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to reunite with
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
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On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:Can China truth them with China's future?
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all they want.
The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger and
military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It took
weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under DPP, US
defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists and theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony until the
with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to reunite
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan. The West would want this to
be permanent status quo. But not China.
The US or any other nations should not get involved in the issue of China-Taiwan Reunification. Its none of their business. It's China's
internal affair!
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades" Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
--Status quo do change.
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Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death. Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
The West would want this to be permanent status quo. But not China.Where do you get this? Please don't make thing up.
The US or any other nations should not get involved in the issue of China-Taiwan Reunification. Its none of their business. It's China's internal affair!Agree that China-Mainland and China-Taiwan reunification is totally China's internal affair.
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another >> matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death. Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan. The West would want this to
be permanent status quo. But not China.
The US or any other nations should not get involved in the issue of China-Taiwan Reunification. Its none of their business. It's China's internal affair!IMHO Taiwan is China internal affair but it is not PRC/communist China internal affair.
China had changed "a little" before HK New Territories
lease expired. [I bet the lease was intended as face saving legal
fiction but it turned out otherwise].
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On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades" Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Not really.--Status quo do change.
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Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death. Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by the US as its allies. He was
certainly America's point man in the fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground Communist Party.
Chiang Ching-kuo became the ROC president after Chiang Kai Shek's death. He was in man way ROC's
Deng. His policy greatly improve the economy and he allowed the DDP to participate in politics.
"Jay Taylor has described Chiang Ching-kuo as a figure who mixed the ideologies of Soviet communism,
Chinese nationalism, Taiwanese localism and American democracy, who became the helmsman of the
democratization of Taiwan.[41]
Unlike his highly controversial father, Chiang Ching-kuo’s reputation is overwhelmingly positive among the
Taiwanese population as the people of Taiwan recognizes his economic and social achievements, as well as
his efforts of democratization. 38.7% of the population considers him the best president who contributed the
most to Taiwan, and he was rated 84.8/100 by the Taiwanese population." (Wikepedia.com)
The West would want this to be permanent status quo. But not China.Where do you get this? Please don't make thing up.
To be sure, the PRC is under the one party rule of CCP. And the ROC is a multiparty system today. So far no official statement on how Taiwan
should be governed. Simple reason, Taiwan is still an independent political entity. It has internal legitimacy but almost zero external legitimacy.
The current PRC paradigm is
1) One China differently expressed and
2) No military action as long as the the ROC does not seek independence.
ROC 's Nationalist Party accepts both premises. The DPP rejects the One China party but accepts the second one by default.
If the ROC is suggested 1C2S, the PRC would certainly accepts.
The US or any other nations should not get involved in the issue of China-Taiwan Reunification. Its none of their business. It's China's internal affair!Agree that China-Mainland and China-Taiwan reunification is totally China's internal affair.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Not really.
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely >> > > circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another >> > > matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Martial law era (1949–1987)[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
Not really.gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s >> > > > visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US >> > > > efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you >> > > really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades" >> > > Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B].
It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
Status quo may change *slowly* to be still treated as status quo.
[A] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Martial_law_era_(1949%E2%80%931987)
Martial law era (1949–1987)[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
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[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
The English Wikipedia article's claim "modern historians are divided
on the degree of truth behind the Potemkin village story" is
false. Among real historians there is quite a consensus that the story
is a pure myth.
Origin and promotion of the myth is well-traceable via various
sources. Read the Russian Wikipedia article <https://is.gd/ld10Ii>
through machine
translation to know the true story behind the myth. Also, the name of the hero was Potyomkin, not Potemkin.
"Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> wrote:
[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
The English Wikipedia article's claim "modern historians are divided
on the degree of truth behind the Potemkin village story" is
false. Among real historians there is quite a consensus that the story
is a pure myth. Origin and promotion of the myth is well-traceable via
various sources. Read the Russian Wikipedia article
<https://is.gd/ld10Ii> through machine translation to know the true
story behind the myth. Also, the name of the hero was Potyomkin, not
Potemkin.
Potemkin village is as good as spanish inquisition and "And you are
lynching negros". Historical "exactness" is of secondary importance
in non historians discussions.
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
Not really.gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s >> > > > visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US >> > > > efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you >> > > really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades" >> > > Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B].
It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
Status quo may change *slowly* to be still treated as status quo.
[A] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Martial_law_era_(1949%E2%80%931987)
Martial law era (1949–1987)[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
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"Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> wrote:
Potemkin village is as good as spanish inquisition and "And you are[B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
The English Wikipedia article's claim "modern historians are divided
on the degree of truth behind the Potemkin village story" is
false. Among real historians there is quite a consensus that the story
is a pure myth. Origin and promotion of the myth is well-traceable via
various sources. Read the Russian Wikipedia article
<https://is.gd/ld10Ii> through machine translation to know the true
story behind the myth. Also, the name of the hero was Potyomkin, not
Potemkin.
lynching negros". Historical "exactness" is of secondary importance
in non historians discussions.
A. Filip is a Polish troll who was caught many times using fictitious quotations and anecdotes (oftenly linked with Russia, […]
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:See "Our son of a bitch" (disputed) FDR quote. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:Elector College democracy wise, ROC under Chiang Kai Shek was considered by
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Not really.
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong >> >> > > > reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long. >> >> > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death. >> >> > Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by >> >> the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the[…]
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground >> >> Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B]. >> It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
[…]
the US and its allies as democratic.
Do YOU share US (implied?) assessments about state of Taiwan "democracy" under decades of martial law?
Elector College democracy is not the same as universal male suffrage (without elector)Do you consider it as bad as 38 ears of martial law?
democracy. And different from universal male and female suffrage. And different from
universal male and female, white and colored people democracy. As its heart, the US
is still an elector college democracy. Potemkin democracy?
"Rome was not build in a day" - USA *started* as a democracy of slave owners. Standards change over time.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:Elector College democracy wise, ROC under Chiang Kai Shek was considered by the US and its allies as democratic.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
Not really.gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s >> >> > > > visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US >> >> > > > efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you >> >> > > really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades" >> >> > > Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B].
It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
[…]
Elector College democracy is not the same as universal male suffrage (without elector)
democracy. And different from universal male and female suffrage. And different from
universal male and female, white and colored people democracy. As its heart, the US
is still an elector college democracy. Potemkin democracy?
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:52:20 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:See "Our son of a bitch" (disputed) FDR quote.
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:Elector College democracy wise, ROC under Chiang Kai Shek was considered by
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Not really.
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong >> >> >> > > > reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long. >> >> >> > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death. >> >> >> > Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by >> >> >> the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the[…]
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground >> >> >> Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B]. >> >> It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
[…]
the US and its allies as democratic.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
Do YOU share US (implied?) assessments about state of Taiwan "democracy"
under decades of martial law?
Elector College democracy is not the same as universal male suffrage (without elector)Do you consider it as bad as 38 ears of martial law?
democracy. And different from universal male and female suffrage. And different from
universal male and female, white and colored people democracy. As its heart, the US
is still an elector college democracy. Potemkin democracy?
"Rome was not build in a day" - USA *started* as a democracy of slave
owners. Standards change over time.
Is America today a democracy when people said the US government did not have the consent of the people? And they don't trust the government.
Whatever one may think about democratic government, it is just as well
to have practical experience of its rough and slatternly
foundations. No part of the education of a politician is more
indispensable than the fighting of elections.
In Great Contemporaries, "Lord Rosebery" (1937)
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:52:20 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:See "Our son of a bitch" (disputed) FDR quote.
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:Elector College democracy wise, ROC under Chiang Kai Shek was considered by
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Not really.
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the >> >> >> fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then >> >> >> underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B].
It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
[…]
the US and its allies as democratic.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
Do YOU share US (implied?) assessments about state of Taiwan "democracy" >> under decades of martial law?
Elector College democracy is not the same as universal male suffrage (without elector)Do you consider it as bad as 38 ears of martial law?
democracy. And different from universal male and female suffrage. And different from
universal male and female, white and colored people democracy. As its heart, the US
is still an elector college democracy. Potemkin democracy?
"Rome was not build in a day" - USA *started* as a democracy of slave
owners. Standards change over time.
Is America today a democracy when people said the US government did not haveDoes it have even lower consent than CPC leadership of PRC?
the consent of the people? And they don't trust the government.
[I leave "the perfect democracy" sell speech to usanesse.]
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill
Whatever one may think about democratic government, it is just as well
to have practical experience of its rough and slatternly
foundations. No part of the education of a politician is more indispensable than the fighting of elections.
In Great Contemporaries, "Lord Rosebery" (1937)
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On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:28:13 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:Funny answer.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:52:20 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:Does it have even lower consent than CPC leadership of PRC?
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:See "Our son of a bitch" (disputed) FDR quote.
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:Elector College democracy wise, ROC under Chiang Kai Shek was considered by
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Not really.
gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the >> >> >> >> fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then >> >> >> >> underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan".
Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of
martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B].
It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
[…]
the US and its allies as democratic.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
Do YOU share US (implied?) assessments about state of Taiwan "democracy" >> >> under decades of martial law?
Elector College democracy is not the same as universal male suffrage (without elector)Do you consider it as bad as 38 ears of martial law?
democracy. And different from universal male and female suffrage. And different from
universal male and female, white and colored people democracy. As its heart, the US
is still an elector college democracy. Potemkin democracy?
"Rome was not build in a day" - USA *started* as a democracy of slave
owners. Standards change over time.
Is America today a democracy when people said the US government did not have
the consent of the people? And they don't trust the government.
[I leave "the perfect democracy" sell speech to usanesse.]
[…]
1. If you or anyone know for a fact that CPC leadership has lower
consent, please inform.
2. Any reason to believe whether the US, or Russia is a democracy
depends on whether other nations is also a democracy or not a
democracy? Is a democracy not about the a government and its citizens?
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:28:13 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:We both agree that US democracy is "less good than advertised".
ltlee1 wrote:Funny answer.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:52:20 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:Does it have even lower consent than CPC leadership of PRC?
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:See "Our son of a bitch" (disputed) FDR quote.
bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> wrote:Elector College democracy wise, ROC under Chiang Kai Shek was considered by
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:00:47 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 1:39:42 AM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:13:07 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote: >> >> >> >> > > gerard jud <gera...@gmail.com> wrote:Not really.
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong
reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s
visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US
efforts to split the island from the mainland.
[…]
I call it preserving existing state of affairs (status quo). Do you
really expect US support for reunification of "separated for decades"
Taiwan with *communist* China (PRC)? I do not (except in very unlikely
circumstances) Reunification with post-communist China is quite another
matter. No dynasty rules forever. Some dynasties rule (very) long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo
Status quo do change.
Under Chiang Kai Shek's rule, that was status quo, until his death.
Democracy has been introduced to Taiwan.
Yes, really. Please don't make things up.
The ROC was considered a democracy under Chiang Kai Shek according by[…]
the US as its allies. He was certainly America's point man in the
fight against Communism in East Asia. He, likewise treated the then
underground DPP as evil just like the US had treated its underground
Communist Party.
Sate directly *when* according to you "democracy entered Taiwan". >> >> >> Taiwan is democratic today but I am not eager to treat 38 years of >> >> >> martial law [A] as anything more than a Potemkin village democracy [B].
It lasted _much_ longer than a little bit too long.
[…]
the US and its allies as democratic.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
Do YOU share US (implied?) assessments about state of Taiwan "democracy"
under decades of martial law?
Elector College democracy is not the same as universal male suffrage (without elector)Do you consider it as bad as 38 ears of martial law?
democracy. And different from universal male and female suffrage. And different from
universal male and female, white and colored people democracy. As its heart, the US
is still an elector college democracy. Potemkin democracy?
"Rome was not build in a day" - USA *started* as a democracy of slave >> >> owners. Standards change over time.
Is America today a democracy when people said the US government did not have
the consent of the people? And they don't trust the government.
[I leave "the perfect democracy" sell speech to usanesse.]
[…]
1. If you or anyone know for a fact that CPC leadership has lower
consent, please inform.
2. Any reason to believe whether the US, or Russia is a democracy
depends on whether other nations is also a democracy or not a
democracy? Is a democracy not about the a government and its citizens?
We seem to disagree if it is bad enough to make it worse that non
democratic alternatives (in particular PRC and Putinistan).
Being worse would make it a Potemkin village squared.
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| We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
| (Oscar Wilde)
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:Can China truth them with China's future?
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all they want.
threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger and
military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It took
weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under DPP, US
the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists and theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony until
with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to reunite
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against TaiwanIndependence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.
Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as listed above.
Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the mainland.
Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all they want.
threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger and
military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It took
weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under DPP, US
the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists and theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony until
with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to reunite
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against Taiwan
it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as listed above.
Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo”
“Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means”
“China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow their rules if
Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring aboutreunification.
But the Westerners are telling China this:There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing nations.
Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the Chinese isstill as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:mainland.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the
want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all they
threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger and
military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It took
US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under DPP,
until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists andThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony
reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against Taiwan
above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as listed
if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo”
“Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means” “China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow their rules
reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring about
There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing nations.
is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the Chinese
No matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:41:26 AM UTC, stoney wrote:mainland.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the
want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all they
and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger
military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It took
US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under DPP,
until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists andThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony
reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against Taiwan
above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as listed
rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo”
“Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means” “China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow their
reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring about
There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing nations.
is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the Chinese
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
INTERNAL FORCESChina.
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes with
The rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these conflicts, the USis using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest. Reunification will turn China
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people on the
The DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US governmentalorganisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The most sinister plot
Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard togetherto bring about separation and independence.
MILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICEdifficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How the exercises
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future more
OPEN WAR?the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military supports from
Should China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...everything.China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. Unlike in Ukraine,
It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-backedenemies. This will spread thin the US military might.
Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start militaryoperations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.
WINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between the people on
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under DPP rule.
MILITARY SUPREMACYthe island.
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over the one on
China is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in any way to
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese have to
CONCLUSIONpowerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become strong and
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:mainland.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:41:26 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the
they want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all
and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China stronger
took military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It
DPP, US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under
until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both the Communists andThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese colony
reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Taiwan Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against
above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as listed
rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo”
“Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means” “China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow their
reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring about
nations. There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing
Chinese is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
China.INTERNAL FORCES
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes with
US is using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest. Reunification will turnThe rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these conflicts, the
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people on the
organisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The most sinister plotThe DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US governmental
together to bring about separation and independence.Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard
difficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How the exercisesMILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICE
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future more
the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.OPEN WAR?
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military supports from
China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. Unlike in Ukraine,Should China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...everything.
enemies. This will spread thin the US military might.It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-backed
operations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start military
Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between the people onWINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under DPP rule.
on the island.MILITARY SUPREMACY
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over the one
do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in any way toChina is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese have to
and powerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?CONCLUSION
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become strong
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels approachingTaiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time. This will help to deter US provocations.
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels approaching
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:36:04 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:mainland.
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:41:26 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from the
they want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all
stronger and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China
took military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this. It
DPP, US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power. Under
colony until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese
reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China to
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Taiwan Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against
listed above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as
rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo” “Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means” “China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow their
reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring about
nations. There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing
Chinese is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
China.INTERNAL FORCES
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes with
the US is using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest. Reunification willThe rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these conflicts,
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people on the
governmental organisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The mostThe DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US
together to bring about separation and independence.Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard
difficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How the exercisesMILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICE
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future more
from the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.OPEN WAR?
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military supports
China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. Unlike in Ukraine,Should China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...everything.
backed enemies. This will spread thin the US military might.It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-
operations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start military
Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between the peopleWINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under DPP rule.
one on the island.MILITARY SUPREMACY
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over the
to do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in any way toChina is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese have
and powerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?CONCLUSION
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become strong
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time. This will help to deter US provocations.China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels approaching
Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time.When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels approaching
What will an independent Taiwan be like? Should China wait for it to happen?independent Taiwan will become a bastion of Western Powers. It will host military bases of US-and-allies. Japan and India will be two of those allies.
An independent Taiwan will be a small nation. No matter how independent a small nation believes itself to be, it will always have to depend on bigger and more powerful ones.
An independent Taiwan will be nothing but a US-dependent territory, like some of those strings of Pacific Islands. Its economy will largely depend on US trade, investments and market. Its defense and security will depend on US military might. An
Changing The Populationnecessary but not sufficient. To be more on the safe side, US-and-allies would want a drastic change in the ethnic composition of the population. They would want to see a more diverse and inclusive population where the Chinese will make up only one of
As it is now, the US-and-allies consider Taiwan’s population too Chinese for comfort. To them, the DPP government social engineering policies to indoctrinate the people on the island to believe that they are Taiwanese rather than Chinese are good and
Those occasional China’s military exercises are not helping to prevent the above scenario from happenning. Instead they provide accuses for the US and the DPP government to work together to push Taiwan towards such a scenario. In respond to theexercises, more American and European politicians are visiting Taiwan and the US will speed up its arms sales to Taiwan. That schoolgirl President of Taiwan is talking and acting tough. When the first bomb is dropped, she will run to hide underneath her
Recently there was an announcement of Taiwan recruiting more foreign workers.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3190982/why-taiwan-suddenly-needs-400000-foreign-workers-critical
They will be the new immigrants and most will be non-Chinese.
How long can China wait when Taiwan is turning into an anti-China anti-Chinese polity by the day?https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/asia/biden-us-troops-defend-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html
On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:05:23 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:the mainland.
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:36:04 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:41:26 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from
they want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all
stronger and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China
It took military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this.
Under DPP, US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power.
colony until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese
to reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Taiwan Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against
listed above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as
their rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo” “Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means” “China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow
reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring about
nations. There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing
Chinese is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
with China.INTERNAL FORCES
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes
the US is using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest. Reunification willThe rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these conflicts,
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
the island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people on
governmental organisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The mostThe DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US
together to bring about separation and independence.Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard
more difficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How theMILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICE
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future
from the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.OPEN WAR?
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military supports
China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. Unlike in Ukraine,Should China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...everything.
backed enemies. This will spread thin the US military might.It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-
operations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start military
rule. Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between theWINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under DPP
one on the island.MILITARY SUPREMACY
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over the
have to do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in anyChina is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese
strong and powerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?CONCLUSION
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time. This will help to deter US provocations.China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time.When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
independent Taiwan will become a bastion of Western Powers. It will host military bases of US-and-allies. Japan and India will be two of those allies.What will an independent Taiwan be like? Should China wait for it to happen?
An independent Taiwan will be a small nation. No matter how independent a small nation believes itself to be, it will always have to depend on bigger and more powerful ones.
An independent Taiwan will be nothing but a US-dependent territory, like some of those strings of Pacific Islands. Its economy will largely depend on US trade, investments and market. Its defense and security will depend on US military might. An
and necessary but not sufficient. To be more on the safe side, US-and-allies would want a drastic change in the ethnic composition of the population. They would want to see a more diverse and inclusive population where the Chinese will make up only oneChanging The Population
As it is now, the US-and-allies consider Taiwan’s population too Chinese for comfort. To them, the DPP government social engineering policies to indoctrinate the people on the island to believe that they are Taiwanese rather than Chinese are good
exercises, more American and European politicians are visiting Taiwan and the US will speed up its arms sales to Taiwan. That schoolgirl President of Taiwan is talking and acting tough. When the first bomb is dropped, she will run to hide underneath herThose occasional China’s military exercises are not helping to prevent the above scenario from happenning. Instead they provide accuses for the US and the DPP government to work together to push Taiwan towards such a scenario. In respond to the
Recently there was an announcement of Taiwan recruiting more foreign workers.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3190982/why-taiwan-suddenly-needs-400000-foreign-workers-critical
They will be the new immigrants and most will be non-Chinese.
the end still lost the war. Or like in the past in Korea, Vietnam and more recently, Afghanistan? In all three cases, the US could not last to the end in the fight. In Korea, it agreed to an armistice. In Vietnam, it was kicked out. In Afghanistan, itHow long can China wait when Taiwan is turning into an anti-China anti-Chinese polity by the day?https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/asia/biden-us-troops-defend-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html
This should not and will not deter China from reuniting with Taiwan, by force, if necessary. The question is to what extent will the US be prepared to defend Taiwan. In the Chinese civil war, they supplied arms and advisors to the Nationalists which in
Bear in mind that in all four cases, the US had the luxury of fighting away from home ground. As a result, it enemies home grounds suffered damages while its own home ground remained intact. Fighting against China in the 21st Century will be different.China has the capability to bring the fight to the US homeland. It can by-pass and leapfrog the rings-of-fires and tripwires the US has built around it. More importantly, the fight can turn nuclear. How many Americans will be willing to suffer a nuclear
Before any further futile talks or sabre-rattlings, the US should conduct a nationwide survey with the following question:
Should the US take the risk of being nuked by China in order to prevent a China-Taiwan Reunification?
Those Taiwan Independents would be most interested to know the result.
On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:05:23 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:the mainland.
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:36:04 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:41:26 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
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The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from
they want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything all
stronger and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China
It took military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this.
Under DPP, US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power.
colony until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese
to reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps China
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Taiwan Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against
listed above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as
their rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo” “Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means” “China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow
reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring about
nations. There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing
Chinese is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
with China.INTERNAL FORCES
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes
the US is using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest. Reunification willThe rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these conflicts,
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
the island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people on
governmental organisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The mostThe DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US
together to bring about separation and independence.Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard
more difficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How theMILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICE
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future
from the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.OPEN WAR?
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military supports
China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. Unlike in Ukraine,Should China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...everything.
backed enemies. This will spread thin the US military might.It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-
operations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start military
rule. Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between theWINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under DPP
one on the island.MILITARY SUPREMACY
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over the
have to do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in anyChina is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese
strong and powerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?CONCLUSION
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time. This will help to deter US provocations.China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time.When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
independent Taiwan will become a bastion of Western Powers. It will host military bases of US-and-allies. Japan and India will be two of those allies.What will an independent Taiwan be like? Should China wait for it to happen?
An independent Taiwan will be a small nation. No matter how independent a small nation believes itself to be, it will always have to depend on bigger and more powerful ones.
An independent Taiwan will be nothing but a US-dependent territory, like some of those strings of Pacific Islands. Its economy will largely depend on US trade, investments and market. Its defense and security will depend on US military might. An
and necessary but not sufficient. To be more on the safe side, US-and-allies would want a drastic change in the ethnic composition of the population. They would want to see a more diverse and inclusive population where the Chinese will make up only oneChanging The Population
As it is now, the US-and-allies consider Taiwan’s population too Chinese for comfort. To them, the DPP government social engineering policies to indoctrinate the people on the island to believe that they are Taiwanese rather than Chinese are good
exercises, more American and European politicians are visiting Taiwan and the US will speed up its arms sales to Taiwan. That schoolgirl President of Taiwan is talking and acting tough. When the first bomb is dropped, she will run to hide underneath herThose occasional China’s military exercises are not helping to prevent the above scenario from happenning. Instead they provide accuses for the US and the DPP government to work together to push Taiwan towards such a scenario. In respond to the
Recently there was an announcement of Taiwan recruiting more foreign workers.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3190982/why-taiwan-suddenly-needs-400000-foreign-workers-critical
They will be the new immigrants and most will be non-Chinese.
the end still lost the war. Or like in the past in Korea, Vietnam and more recently, Afghanistan? In all three cases, the US could not last to the end in the fight. In Korea, it agreed to an armistice. In Vietnam, it was kicked out. In Afghanistan, itHow long can China wait when Taiwan is turning into an anti-China anti-Chinese polity by the day?https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/asia/biden-us-troops-defend-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html
This should not and will not deter China from reuniting with Taiwan, by force, if necessary. The question is to what extent will the US be prepared to defend Taiwan. In the Chinese civil war, they supplied arms and advisors to the Nationalists which in
Bear in mind that in all four cases, the US had the luxury of fighting away from home ground. As a result, it enemies home grounds suffered damages while its own home ground remained intact. Fighting against China in the 21st Century will be different.China has the capability to bring the fight to the US homeland. It can by-pass and leapfrog the rings-of-fires and tripwires the US has built around it. More importantly, the fight can turn nuclear. How many Americans will be willing to suffer a nuclear
Before any further futile talks or sabre-rattlings, the US should conduct a nationwide survey with the following question:
Should the US take the risk of being nuked by China in order to prevent a China-Taiwan Reunification?
Those Taiwan Independents would be most interested to know the result.
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:12:58 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:the mainland.
On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:05:23 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:36:04 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:41:26 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:26:36 PM UTC+8, paul polikos wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:47:44 AM UTC, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:50:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:07:13 PM UTC-4, gera...@gmail.com wrote:
The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island from
all they want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything
stronger and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China
It took military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against this.
Under DPP, US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power.
colony until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a Japanese
China to reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and 2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
Taiwan Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are against
listed above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as
their rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo” “Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means”
“China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow
about reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring
nations. There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other willing
Chinese is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means the
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
with China.INTERNAL FORCES
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes
the US is using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest. Reunification willThe rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these conflicts,
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
the island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people on
governmental organisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The mostThe DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US
together to bring about separation and independence.Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard
more difficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How theMILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICE
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future
supports from the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.OPEN WAR?
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military
everything. China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. UnlikeShould China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...
backed enemies. This will spread thin the US military might.It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-
operations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start military
rule. Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between theWINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under DPP
the one on the island.MILITARY SUPREMACY
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over
have to do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in anyChina is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese
strong and powerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?CONCLUSION
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time. This will help to deter US provocations.China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time.When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
independent Taiwan will become a bastion of Western Powers. It will host military bases of US-and-allies. Japan and India will be two of those allies.What will an independent Taiwan be like? Should China wait for it to happen?
An independent Taiwan will be a small nation. No matter how independent a small nation believes itself to be, it will always have to depend on bigger and more powerful ones.
An independent Taiwan will be nothing but a US-dependent territory, like some of those strings of Pacific Islands. Its economy will largely depend on US trade, investments and market. Its defense and security will depend on US military might. An
and necessary but not sufficient. To be more on the safe side, US-and-allies would want a drastic change in the ethnic composition of the population. They would want to see a more diverse and inclusive population where the Chinese will make up only oneChanging The Population
As it is now, the US-and-allies consider Taiwan’s population too Chinese for comfort. To them, the DPP government social engineering policies to indoctrinate the people on the island to believe that they are Taiwanese rather than Chinese are good
exercises, more American and European politicians are visiting Taiwan and the US will speed up its arms sales to Taiwan. That schoolgirl President of Taiwan is talking and acting tough. When the first bomb is dropped, she will run to hide underneath herThose occasional China’s military exercises are not helping to prevent the above scenario from happenning. Instead they provide accuses for the US and the DPP government to work together to push Taiwan towards such a scenario. In respond to the
Recently there was an announcement of Taiwan recruiting more foreign workers.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3190982/why-taiwan-suddenly-needs-400000-foreign-workers-critical
They will be the new immigrants and most will be non-Chinese.
in the end still lost the war. Or like in the past in Korea, Vietnam and more recently, Afghanistan? In all three cases, the US could not last to the end in the fight. In Korea, it agreed to an armistice. In Vietnam, it was kicked out. In Afghanistan, itHow long can China wait when Taiwan is turning into an anti-China anti-Chinese polity by the day?https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/asia/biden-us-troops-defend-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html
This should not and will not deter China from reuniting with Taiwan, by force, if necessary. The question is to what extent will the US be prepared to defend Taiwan. In the Chinese civil war, they supplied arms and advisors to the Nationalists which
different. China has the capability to bring the fight to the US homeland. It can by-pass and leapfrog the rings-of-fires and tripwires the US has built around it. More importantly, the fight can turn nuclear. How many Americans will be willing to sufferBear in mind that in all four cases, the US had the luxury of fighting away from home ground. As a result, it enemies home grounds suffered damages while its own home ground remained intact. Fighting against China in the 21st Century will be
Before any further futile talks or sabre-rattlings, the US should conduct a nationwide survey with the following question:
Should the US take the risk of being nuked by China in order to prevent a China-Taiwan Reunification?
Those Taiwan Independents would be most interested to know the result.And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
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The Americans must be real idiots to think that China’s strong reactions are solely due to the withered old witch Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. It’s not. It’s due to decades of continuous US efforts to split the island
all they want. Can China truth them with China's future?The heart of the issue is China cannot really tell what Nancy Pelosi had been offering to the ROC given US hostility and its continuous effort to split the Taiwan, China from Mainland China. Pelosi as well as Biden can deny everything
stronger and threaten US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. The Americans try all means to prevent reunification. They enhance the political divide by pressing Taiwan to adopt democracy. They nurture the Opposition and the Taiwan Independent movement.The US had stationed nuclear weapon in ROC before. And it is obvious that this is the least expensive way to defend the ROC.
The US does not want mainland China(for short, China) and its breakaway island province of Taiwan(for short, Taiwan) reunited. The reason is obvious. Reunification is against US national interest. The reunification will make China
this. It took military actions against Taiwan to stop the first election. But US intervened with its superior military might. The first election was held and subsequent elections followed.It started with US meddling of the island’s politics. Defying China, the US helped to democratise Taiwan. It encouraged the growth of the Oppositions and pushed for the holding of National Elections. China was dead set against
Under DPP, US weapons sales to Taiwan increases sharply. Politicians from US-led West frequently visit Taiwan in the name of defending democracy and freedom but only to egg on the DPP to work faster towards separation and independence.This is not accordance with any formal agreement. This is illegal. It is done without China’s approval. It is invalid because only the islanders voted while the billion+ mainlanders have no say.
Things grow worst when pro-Taiwan Independent Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is in government. DPP supporters against reunification readily resort to violence to get their way. The DPP looks up to the US to support it in power.
Japanese colony until the defeat of Japan in WW2. In 1949, after defeat in a civil war with the Communists, the Nationalist Government of the Kuomintang Party fled to Taiwan to establish power there. Taiwan became known as the Republic of China. Both theThe Chinese realise this. They can see the road to peaceful reunification becoming more elusive. The military option becomes the more likely one. China bides its time and work feverishly to build up its military might.
China has all the moral rights to return Taiwan to its fold by whatever means. Taiwan has been a part of China up till the later part of the Qing Dynasty when it was captured by the Japs after a War in 1895. It then became a
China to reunite with Taiwan. It’s a win-win. The best outcome.Damned Americans really show their anti-Chinese racism when they rope in the Japs to prevent China-Taiwan reunification. What does this tell the Chinese?
1. The Americans prefer Japs recolonisation of Taiwan and
2. they would like to see a repeat of Japs extreme atrocities on the Chinese.
All these effectively seal the road to peaceful reunification. They serve to convince the Chinese that military might is now the only means to reunification.
It would be challenging for China alone to take on the US and its democratic allies. It’s time for China and Russia to put their ‘no-limits’ co-operation into practice. China helps Russia to recover Ukraine and Russia helps
Taiwan and 21st Century Global Politics
What’s happening in Taiwan today has a broader context – Big Power Conflict of the 21st Century.
The US has clearly postulated a paradigm shift in its Global Strategy for the 21st Century – from Christian-Judeao-Islamic conflict to Big Power Conflict, the big powers being US, Russia and China.
For Russia the conflict is about the expansion of NATO towards the Russian border.
For China , it’s more complex and involve more nations and geographical areas - India, Japan, Australia, South China Sea, Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan
The US-led West is planning for War on China. That’s the only way to stop the rise of China. Look at their possible plots against China and what role will they use Taiwan play in it, some of which are already implemented.
Use India as a counterweight against China.
Bring India into the Asia-Pacific and rename it Indo-Pacific,.
Create a NATO-like alliance against China, starting with the QUAD of US, India, Japan, Australia.
Create economic alliances that exclude China.
For Taiwan specifically:
Distance Taiwan from China. Drive a wedge between the island and the mainland.
Widen their political divide. Democratise Taiwan.
Arm the island with US weapons. These will first make it difficult for China to mount a military takeover. These weapons will become increasingly advanced until they can threaten the security of China.
A US military base on the island.
Make Taiwan a member of the Asia-Pacific version of NATO.
against Taiwan Independence. Reunification should happen sooner rather than later. The sooner the better.Most of these can happen only if Taiwan becomes an Independent Nation. That’s the way Taiwan will go if it is not reunited with China. Never trust those Westerners when they profess that they support the One-China Policy and are
listed above.Now that China has started military exercises around Taiwan, it faces a dilemma. Should they be stopped or should they be carried on until their real objective, Reunification, is reached?
What will happen if China stop these exercises before their real objective is reached? The repercussions for China will be dire. The US will use the exercises to frighten the DPP government into speeding up those scenarios for Taiwan as
their rules if it wants to reunite with Taiwan without disturbing the world order. The catch-22 is that China will never be reunited with Taiwan if it were to follow Western rules.Should China turn the military exercises to “special military operations” to reunify with Taiwan?
Before doing this, China should plan and co-ordinate with other countries which are also struggling against US world hegemony - Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Middle East, Afghanistan, Russia.“Taiwan is a part of China” is an irrefutable fact. This needs no further argument. The problem for the Chinese is how best to reunite the island with the mainland, with the US standing in the way.
The US interest in Taiwan lies in the value of the island as a pawn in its Big Power Conflict with China. While moving Taiwan against China, the US spins the issue to make China out to be the culprit in the eyes of the world.
“China cannot unilaterally change the status quo” “Reunification should only be achieved through peaceful means”
“China is disturbing regional and world peace.”
In their might-makes-right world, the Westerners believe they have the might, and therefore the right, to decide when and how China should reunite with Taiwan, if at all. According to their “rule-based world order”, China must follow
about reunification.Since Taiwan is a part of China, its reunification with China is irrefutably the internal affair of China. No other nation should meddle in this. China does not have to seek approval from other nations in the world on how it will bring
willing nations. There are many from those who are against US regional and world hegemony.But the Westerners are telling China this:
What is rightly yours will not belong to you unless you have the might to own it.
It’s true that China does not have the might et to take on the US alone. The US can integrate its might with other like-minded democratic nations to form a coalition. To take them on, China too needs to form a coalition with other
the Chinese is still as weak as they were during those unfortunate times in their history.Alone or in coalition with other nations, China must reunite with Taiwan.To allow Western Powers to split Taiwan from China now is no different from not being able to prevent them from carving up China in the 19th-20th Century. It means
reunification model for Taiwan. There are various reasons for the failure of the Hong Kong Independent Movement. Most important of all is that it did not have the support of the HKSAR government. In Taiwan, the Movement for Taiwan Independent(TI) hasNo matter what it takes China to do, it has to reunite Taiwan. AS Taiwan belongs to China and if the Taiwan people and its self-proclaimed leaders wish to leave Taiwan, they can do so.WILL TAIWAN REUNITE WITH CHINA?
After going through a turbulent period of street protests and agitations for Independence from China, Hong Kong is now definitely reunited with China, under a One-Country-Two-Systems model of governance. But China should not expect a similar
What is China up against in its Reunification with Taiwan? This can be broadly analysed as Internal and External Forces.
with China.INTERNAL FORCES
In Taiwan, there are two main parties – KMT and DPP, each with different principles regarding reunification and independence.
KMT - anti-Independent but Reunification only on its terms, which is that it will be the government of a reunited China.
DPP - anti-Reunification, pro-Independent.
EXTERNAL FORCES
The external forces preventing Reunification is much bigger and stronger than the internal forces. It’s a US-led international coalition of democracies consisting mostly of Western nations and some Asian ones which have territorial disputes
conflicts, the US is using Taiwan as a pawn to move against China and the issue of Reunification is China’s problem it can manipulate and exploit to its advantage. US has no wish to see Reunification. It is against US’s national interest.The rise of China has made it a threat to the US-led West. In this 21st century, the US Global Strategy emphasises Big Power Conflict between the US, Russia and China. The US and China are now in open conflicts in many areas. In these
Internal and external forces are working together to split Taiwan from China. Whenever China counters their moves, it is accused of trying to change the status quo unilaterally.
on the island. It is in collusion with the US to bring about separation and independence.WHAT IS TAIWAN’S STATUS QUO?
Under current status quo of DPP rule, Taiwan’s anti-China, anti-Reunification and pro-Independent stance is most pronounced. The DPP boldly declares that Taiwan is an Independent Nation the future of which can only be decided by the people
governmental organisations and NGOs based on the island to carry out covert operations against China. Politicians from the democratic world, especially the US, are permitted to visit Taiwan in defiance of China’s sovereignty over the island. The mostThe DPP government acts against China whenever and wherever it can. It spends big to boost its defence against China with weapons purchases from US. It actively pushes to expand it’s international space, with help from US. It allows US
together to bring about separation and independence.Status quo will lead Taiwan towards separation and independence. This is not acceptable to China. Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. Internal forces within Taiwan do not want it. Neither do external forces. Instead, they are working hard
more difficult. While such exercises can only be temporary, their negative effects on the population are more permanent. “China is a bully that makes our lives difficult” stays on the mind of the people long after the exercises ended. How theMILITARY OPTION IS THE ONLY CHOICE
MILITARY EXERCISES
The Chinese responds to intolerable provocations from Taiwan by mounting military exercises aimed at the island. These exercises have their pros and cons. They expose Chinese war strategies and tactics, making preemptive strikes in the future
supports from the US and purchasing more arms from the US. This causes tension between the island and China to spiral upward.OPEN WAR?
Since the start of Russia’s “special military operations” in Ukraine, the US has raised the specter of China starting similar operations in Taiwan. This has the intended effect of the DPP regime seeking more political and military
everything. China would face economic sanctions and international isolation. It will be Chinese-killing-Chinese, with the non-Chinese, especially the Americans, only too happy to supply weapons to Taiwan. Taiwan will suffer the most in such a war. UnlikeShould China mount an open war to take over the island? It would be China vs US-led democratic coalition, with Taiwan as the proxy. It will be like Russia vs Ukraine. The hit back will not be just military but also economic, cultural...
backed enemies. This will spread thin the US military might.It would be challenging for China alone to take on a US-led democratic coalition. China too will have to form its own coalition with like-minded nations or co-ordinate with these nations to start their own military operations against their US-
military operations against China simultaneously. In such a war, Mainland China is vulnerable to attacks while Mainland USA is not.Another factor for Chinanto consider before starting the war is this. Is it wise for China to start a war at its own front yard, with American bases and American allies so close by? The US can also co-ordinate with its allies to start
DPP rule. Every DPP government has initiated policies and social engineering programs to change the hearts and mind of the people on the island negatively towards China. These programs aim to break the bonds of common ancestry and racial root between theWINNING THE HEARTS AND MIND OF THE PEOPLE.
China may be able to take over Taiwan by force but winning over the hearts and mind of the people on the island after that will be another matter. The dilemma is that this will also become more difficult if the island were to be left under
the one on the island.MILITARY SUPREMACY
Ultimately, might, especially military might, will provide the solution. Once China becomes the mightiest military power, its enemies now will become its friends. People on both sides of the strait will prefer the regime on the mainland over
have to do is to prove beyond doubt that Chinese military might can leapfrog all those rings of defences that the Americans have build around China and go for the jugular, i.e., the US Mainland. No Americans would want their homeland sacrificed in anyChina is still lagging the US in military might. It has to build up its nuclear arsenal, its naval and air forces. All in, it has to be able to project its military might into the US neighborhood and fight a war on US soil.
Without the US, Taiwan’s defenses become nothing. The DPP knows it. To solve the Taiwan problem is to get the US out of the way. This does not necessarily mean ending up with the Americans prediction of “War with China”. All the Chinese
strong and powerful enough to start a war over Taiwan?CONCLUSION
Leaving Taiwan at status quo means allowing it to move unimpeded towards Independence. Due to US Global Strategy, Peaceful Reunification is a pipe dream. The military option is what’s left for China. The question is when. Has China become
When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time. This will help to deter US provocations.China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
approaching Taiwan. It should be able to make such information available on the Internet in real time.When a foreign nation sails its naval vessels through a waterway between two parts of another nation and claim its about freedom-of-navigation, then this is not a rule- but a might-based world.
All these American political and military provocations against China also reveals one thing, i.e., China is not ready for war with the US. It lacks the intelligence network to provide it with critical information for the war.
China should first achieve this capability - be able to know who among US politicians will be visiting Taiwan and then track their movement all the way to Taiwan. It should be able to do likewise to US military aircraft and naval vessels
independent Taiwan will become a bastion of Western Powers. It will host military bases of US-and-allies. Japan and India will be two of those allies.What will an independent Taiwan be like? Should China wait for it to happen?
An independent Taiwan will be a small nation. No matter how independent a small nation believes itself to be, it will always have to depend on bigger and more powerful ones.
An independent Taiwan will be nothing but a US-dependent territory, like some of those strings of Pacific Islands. Its economy will largely depend on US trade, investments and market. Its defense and security will depend on US military might. An
good and necessary but not sufficient. To be more on the safe side, US-and-allies would want a drastic change in the ethnic composition of the population. They would want to see a more diverse and inclusive population where the Chinese will make up onlyChanging The Population
As it is now, the US-and-allies consider Taiwan’s population too Chinese for comfort. To them, the DPP government social engineering policies to indoctrinate the people on the island to believe that they are Taiwanese rather than Chinese are
exercises, more American and European politicians are visiting Taiwan and the US will speed up its arms sales to Taiwan. That schoolgirl President of Taiwan is talking and acting tough. When the first bomb is dropped, she will run to hide underneath herThose occasional China’s military exercises are not helping to prevent the above scenario from happenning. Instead they provide accuses for the US and the DPP government to work together to push Taiwan towards such a scenario. In respond to the
Recently there was an announcement of Taiwan recruiting more foreign workers.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3190982/why-taiwan-suddenly-needs-400000-foreign-workers-critical
They will be the new immigrants and most will be non-Chinese.
which in the end still lost the war. Or like in the past in Korea, Vietnam and more recently, Afghanistan? In all three cases, the US could not last to the end in the fight. In Korea, it agreed to an armistice. In Vietnam, it was kicked out. InHow long can China wait when Taiwan is turning into an anti-China anti-Chinese polity by the day?https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/asia/biden-us-troops-defend-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html
This should not and will not deter China from reuniting with Taiwan, by force, if necessary. The question is to what extent will the US be prepared to defend Taiwan. In the Chinese civil war, they supplied arms and advisors to the Nationalists
different. China has the capability to bring the fight to the US homeland. It can by-pass and leapfrog the rings-of-fires and tripwires the US has built around it. More importantly, the fight can turn nuclear. How many Americans will be willing to sufferBear in mind that in all four cases, the US had the luxury of fighting away from home ground. As a result, it enemies home grounds suffered damages while its own home ground remained intact. Fighting against China in the 21st Century will be
the DPP will win election after election. China should make the Taiwanese Independents and other Taiwanese realise that the DPP government always put the island on a warpath with China, thus putting the people on the island in mortal danger.Before any further futile talks or sabre-rattlings, the US should conduct a nationwide survey with the following question:
Should the US take the risk of being nuked by China in order to prevent a China-Taiwan Reunification?
Those Taiwan Independents would be most interested to know the result.And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyChina should not show that it can wait when the DPP is in government because this will give the Taiwan Independents the impression that the DPP is strong enough to stand up to China and protect Taiwan. Public opinions will sway towards the DPP. Then,
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because such unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
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On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island +
some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROC Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:RoC - Republic of China
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because such unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes more
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an independent
What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a defacto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They are prepared
That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and Separation.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang.
To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an independent political entity on its own, separatedfrom China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes more established over time.
What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy.
That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five
Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They are prepared to resort to force to prevent China from taking over Taiwan by force.
That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and Separation.
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:17:10 PM UTC+8, decadence thlon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Yes, those countries that treat China as "One China" policy and treat Taiwan as a de facto nation are indeed only in words. Seriously, they are bluffing China because they have to appease China with diplomatic relationship to trade and business witheach other. Even then, despite their de-facto, they do trade business with Taiwan also.
Henceforth, China must step the recovery of Taiwan and not to wait as Taiwan is gearing up purchases of high weaponry with US to fight China. US has interest in the supply for business revenues but also to station a base in Taiwan for its permanentconfrontation at China.
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:16:51 AM UTC, stoney wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:17:10 PM UTC+8, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
each other. Even then, despite their de-facto, they do trade business with Taiwan also.Yes, those countries that treat China as "One China" policy and treat Taiwan as a de facto nation are indeed only in words. Seriously, they are bluffing China because they have to appease China with diplomatic relationship to trade and business with
confrontation at China.Henceforth, China must step the recovery of Taiwan and not to wait as Taiwan is gearing up purchases of high weaponry with US to fight China. US has interest in the supply for business revenues but also to station a base in Taiwan for its permanent
While China keeps talking about Peaceful Reunification, the US is preparing for war a big with China over the issue. It is moving in huge amount of war supplies to Japan, South Korea, Philippines and Taiwan. This is to ensure that it will not have thelogistics problem caused by the Pacific Ocean lying between Taiwan and US. It is providing weapons to Taiwan on a use-first-pay-later arrangement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4dKqTgjSlo
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for >> > both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island +Do you demand the change of RoC constitution?
some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROC Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should
not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental _constitutional_ changes.
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| Intuition, however illogical, is recognized as a command
| prerogative. (Kirk, "Obsession", stardate 3620.7)
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote: >> >> > And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and >> > present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for >> > both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
I don't.The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island + some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROCDo you demand the change of RoC constitution?
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should
not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental _constitutional_ changes.
--
A. Filip : Big (Tech) Brother is watching you.
| Intuition, however illogical, is recognized as a command
| prerogative. (Kirk, "Obsession", stardate 3620.7)
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and >> > present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
I don't.The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island + some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROCDo you demand the change of RoC constitution?
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
ROC constitution can change. Can change to abolish and amend existing and to also install new ones, too.Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental _constitutional_ changes.
--
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| Intuition, however illogical, is recognized as a command
| prerogative. (Kirk, "Obsession", stardate 3620.7)
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 8:55:42 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote: >> >> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
I don't.The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island + some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROCDo you demand the change of RoC constitution?
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
Could be changed in theory just like all other constitutions.ROC constitution can change. Can change to abolish and amend existing and to also install new ones, too.Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental _constitutional_ changes.
--
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| Intuition, however illogical, is recognized as a command
| prerogative. (Kirk, "Obsession", stardate 3620.7)
They question is by whom?
Can New Yorkers remove the Second amendment of the US Constitution?
Can people in the "free region" of the ROC change the ROC Constitution?
New Yorkers by themselves do not constitute "We the People" of the US
People in the free region by themselves, likewise do not constitute "We the People" of the ROC.
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:I don't.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Do you demand the change of RoC constitution?
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote: >> > >> >> > And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and >> > >> > present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for >> > >> > both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island +
some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROC
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should
not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental
_constitutional_ changes.
ROC constitution can change. Can change to abolish and amend existing
and to also install new ones, too.
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:58:10 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 9:20:02 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 8:55:42 AM UTC, stoney wrote:US could remove by congress, or a referendum for the
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:Could be changed in theory just like all other constitutions.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:ROC constitution can change. Can change to abolish and amend existing and to also install new ones, too.
ltlee1 wrote:I don't.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote: >> > > > > >> ltlee1 wrote:Do you demand the change of RoC constitution?
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island +
some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROC
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should
not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental >> > > > > _constitutional_ changes.
--
A. Filip : Big (Tech) Brother is watching you.
| Intuition, however illogical, is recognized as a command
| prerogative. (Kirk, "Obsession", stardate 3620.7)
They question is by whom?
Can New Yorkers remove the Second amendment of the US Constitution?
Can people in the "free region" of the ROC change the ROC Constitution?
New Yorkers by themselves do not constitute "We the People" of the US
People in the free region by themselves, likewise do not constitute "We the People" of the ROC.
people. Similarly, ROC is run by DPP, which formed the majority in
parliament can tender a bill for a constitutional change through
passing a bill on it, or referendum on the people. Seriously,
everything in law can be changed, amended, or repealed.
The US currently is consisted by 50 states. The Constitution could be
changed by the people of the 50 states. The ROC currently is
consisted by two regions, the two regions. The free region and the
mainland region. DDP could not possibly change the ROC Constitution
based on free region's voters alone just like New Yorkers could not
possibly change the US Constitution.
stoney <papaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:I don't.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:Do you demand the change of RoC constitution?
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote: >> > >> >> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island + >> > > some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROC
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should >> > not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental
_constitutional_ changes.
ROC constitution can change. Can change to abolish and amend existingLong lack of such changes makes me assume lack of _constitutional_ majority.
and to also install new ones, too.
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On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 9:20:02 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 8:55:42 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:39:12 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.What would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunify
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Not Taiwan.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and
present. ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for
both short and long term.
[…]
So what? Formally you are right.
But after abandoning "One *RoC*
China" RoC became Taiwan *politically*.
everything in law can be changed, amended, or repealed.I don't.The ROC constitution was amended at 199 to designate Taiwan Island +Do you demand the change of RoC constitution?
some small islands as the Free Area of the Republic of China. But the ROC
Constitution is still in force. Politically speaking, the ROC government must
operate according to the ROC constitution. Hence Taiwan as an independent
political entity does not exists, past and present, formally and operationally.
But those who want to change ROC into Taiwan did try to change the ROC map from
the whole of China to just Taiwan + islands. They failed.
The following is the first page of the ROC Constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File:1946_National_Assembly_Constitution.jpg
Among other things, it states clearly that the ROC was established for the benefits of
all people (of China.} And the sovereignty of the ROC belongs to all people (of China.)
Could be changed in theory just like all other constitutions.ROC constitution can change. Can change to abolish and amend existing and to also install new ones, too.Anyway: You have provided a quite reasonable argument => Taiwan should
not be recognized as an independent country before quite fundamental _constitutional_ changes.
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They question is by whom?
Can New Yorkers remove the Second amendment of the US Constitution?US could remove by congress, or a referendum for the people. Similarly, ROC is run by DPP, which formed the majority in parliament can tender a bill for a constitutional change through passing a bill on it, or referendum on the people. Seriously,
Can people in the "free region" of the ROC change the ROC Constitution? New Yorkers by themselves do not constitute "We the People" of the US People in the free region by themselves, likewise do not constitute "We the People" of the ROC.
If New Yorkers vote to add "The Great state of New York will give other states X millions of dollars
each year", other states are unlikely to object. In contrast, if New Yorkers vote to add "Other will
give the state of New Yorker millions of dollars each year, majority could not effective the change.
People from other states would certainly object.
Again, the ROC exists to benefit all Chinese people per its territory, i.e. both Mainland China and
Taiwan. And the sovereignty belongs to all Chinese, both Mainland and the free region.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes more
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an independent
What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a defacto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They are prepared
That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and Separation.https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves Chinese ,
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
, anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves Chinese
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
capable India against China in the Himalayan border region.TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.Another precondition before China goes to war with the US over Taiwan.
It should have a nuclear-capable N Korea as its friend.
China should ignore any warning or threat from the US and help N Korea to launch missile with nuclear warhead over the Pacific towards the US. If the US lodges protests over this, China should remind the US how the latter is working with nuclear-
This is another step for China to prepare for war with the US over Taiwan. If this war were to breakout, the US will insist that its allies of S Korea and Japan join in against China. A China-allied nuclear-capable N Korea can be used to prevent thetwo allies of the US from attacking China.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
, anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves Chinese
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
capable India against China in the Himalayan border region.TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.Another precondition before China goes to war with the US over Taiwan.
It should have a nuclear-capable N Korea as its friend.
China should ignore any warning or threat from the US and help N Korea to launch missile with nuclear warhead over the Pacific towards the US. If the US lodges protests over this, China should remind the US how the latter is working with nuclear-
This is another step for China to prepare for war with the US over Taiwan. If this war were to breakout, the US will insist that its allies of S Korea and Japan join in against China. A China-allied nuclear-capable N Korea can be used to prevent thetwo allies of the US from attacking China.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:52:08 PM UTC, wog wacker wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
capable India against China in the Himalayan border region.TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.Another precondition before China goes to war with the US over Taiwan.
It should have a nuclear-capable N Korea as its friend.
China should ignore any warning or threat from the US and help N Korea to launch missile with nuclear warhead over the Pacific towards the US. If the US lodges protests over this, China should remind the US how the latter is working with nuclear-
two allies of the US from attacking China.This is another step for China to prepare for war with the US over Taiwan. If this war were to breakout, the US will insist that its allies of S Korea and Japan join in against China. A China-allied nuclear-capable N Korea can be used to prevent the
China doesn’t have many allies in the world which would join it in a war against the US. In Asia-Pacific, there’s only N. Korea. This is the country China should help to nuclearise.continues to grow non-stop, the day will come when the US and Japan will agree that latter should be nuclearised. This is a worse evil for China than a nuclearised Korean Peninsular.
The bigger and more immediate evil for China is not a nuclearised Korean Peninsular but a remiliarised and nuclearised Japan. Japan will nuclearise, whether N. Korea does or not. What is stopping it from doing so now is the US. But as China's power
Up till today, the Japs have expressed no regret, no remorse and no apology over its atrocious imperial rule over East- and Southeast-Asia during the last World War. Japan is working to relive its glorious days of imperialism again, this time withAmerican assistance. Its military is constantly being upgraded by the Americans.
No doubt Japan will participate actively with the US in a war over Taiwan. The two are preparing and practising for that day. A military exercise of 36,000 soldiers and 370 military planes over the Taiwan Straits has been announced. This is the size ofan invading force! Will this be an exercise or a preemptive strike or "special military operation" against China?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTj0YViBtg
China should not hesitate to help N. Korea to develop all sorts of missiles which can reach Japan and the US; conventional and nuclear, ballistic and cruise, submarine- and aircraft-launched.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:52:08 PM UTC, wog wacker wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
capable India against China in the Himalayan border region.TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.Another precondition before China goes to war with the US over Taiwan.
It should have a nuclear-capable N Korea as its friend.
China should ignore any warning or threat from the US and help N Korea to launch missile with nuclear warhead over the Pacific towards the US. If the US lodges protests over this, China should remind the US how the latter is working with nuclear-
two allies of the US from attacking China.This is another step for China to prepare for war with the US over Taiwan. If this war were to breakout, the US will insist that its allies of S Korea and Japan join in against China. A China-allied nuclear-capable N Korea can be used to prevent the
China doesn’t have many allies in the world which would join it in a war against the US. In Asia-Pacific, there’s only N. Korea. This is the country China should help to nuclearise.continues to grow non-stop, the day will come when the US and Japan will agree that latter should be nuclearised. This is a worse evil for China than a nuclearised Korean Peninsular.
The bigger and more immediate evil for China is not a nuclearised Korean Peninsular but a remiliarised and nuclearised Japan. Japan will nuclearise, whether N. Korea does or not. What is stopping it from doing so now is the US. But as China's power
Up till today, the Japs have expressed no regret, no remorse and no apology over its atrocious imperial rule over East- and Southeast-Asia during the last World War. Japan is working to relive its glorious days of imperialism again, this time withAmerican assistance. Its military is constantly being upgraded by the Americans.
No doubt Japan will participate actively with the US in a war over Taiwan. The two are preparing and practising for that day. A military exercise of 36,000 soldiers and 370 military planes over the Taiwan Straits has been announced. This is the size ofan invading force! Will this be an exercise or a preemptive strike or "special military operation" against China?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTj0YViBtg
China should not hesitate to help N. Korea to develop all sorts of missiles which can reach Japan and the US; conventional and nuclear, ballistic and cruise, submarine- and aircraft-launched.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:52:08 PM UTC, wog wacker wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
capable India against China in the Himalayan border region.TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.Another precondition before China goes to war with the US over Taiwan.
It should have a nuclear-capable N Korea as its friend.
China should ignore any warning or threat from the US and help N Korea to launch missile with nuclear warhead over the Pacific towards the US. If the US lodges protests over this, China should remind the US how the latter is working with nuclear-
two allies of the US from attacking China.This is another step for China to prepare for war with the US over Taiwan. If this war were to breakout, the US will insist that its allies of S Korea and Japan join in against China. A China-allied nuclear-capable N Korea can be used to prevent the
China doesn’t have many allies in the world which would join it in a war against the US. In Asia-Pacific, there’s only N. Korea. This is the country China should help to nuclearise.continues to grow non-stop, the day will come when the US and Japan will agree that latter should be nuclearised. This is a worse evil for China than a nuclearised Korean Peninsular.
The bigger and more immediate evil for China is not a nuclearised Korean Peninsular but a remiliarised and nuclearised Japan. Japan will nuclearise, whether N. Korea does or not. What is stopping it from doing so now is the US. But as China's power
Up till today, the Japs have expressed no regret, no remorse and no apology over its atrocious imperial rule over East- and Southeast-Asia during the last World War. Japan is working to relive its glorious days of imperialism again, this time withAmerican assistance. Its military is constantly being upgraded by the Americans.
No doubt Japan will participate actively with the US in a war over Taiwan. The two are preparing and practising for that day. A military exercise of 36,000 soldiers and 370 military planes over the Taiwan Straits has been announced. This is the size ofan invading force! Will this be an exercise or a preemptive strike or "special military operation" against China?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTj0YViBtg
China should not hesitate to help N. Korea to develop all sorts of missiles which can reach Japan and the US; conventional and nuclear, ballistic and cruise, submarine- and aircraft-launched.
On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 8:43:23 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:52:08 PM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
capable India against China in the Himalayan border region.TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.Another precondition before China goes to war with the US over Taiwan.
It should have a nuclear-capable N Korea as its friend.
China should ignore any warning or threat from the US and help N Korea to launch missile with nuclear warhead over the Pacific towards the US. If the US lodges protests over this, China should remind the US how the latter is working with nuclear-
the two allies of the US from attacking China.This is another step for China to prepare for war with the US over Taiwan. If this war were to breakout, the US will insist that its allies of S Korea and Japan join in against China. A China-allied nuclear-capable N Korea can be used to prevent
continues to grow non-stop, the day will come when the US and Japan will agree that latter should be nuclearised. This is a worse evil for China than a nuclearised Korean Peninsular.China doesn’t have many allies in the world which would join it in a war against the US. In Asia-Pacific, there’s only N. Korea. This is the country China should help to nuclearise.
The bigger and more immediate evil for China is not a nuclearised Korean Peninsular but a remiliarised and nuclearised Japan. Japan will nuclearise, whether N. Korea does or not. What is stopping it from doing so now is the US. But as China's power
American assistance. Its military is constantly being upgraded by the Americans.Up till today, the Japs have expressed no regret, no remorse and no apology over its atrocious imperial rule over East- and Southeast-Asia during the last World War. Japan is working to relive its glorious days of imperialism again, this time with
of an invading force! Will this be an exercise or a preemptive strike or "special military operation" against China?No doubt Japan will participate actively with the US in a war over Taiwan. The two are preparing and practising for that day. A military exercise of 36,000 soldiers and 370 military planes over the Taiwan Straits has been announced. This is the size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTj0YViBtg
China should not hesitate to help N. Korea to develop all sorts of missiles which can reach Japan and the US; conventional and nuclear, ballistic and cruise, submarine- and aircraft-launched.https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2022/10/24/as-russia-gets-weaker-xi-jinping-may-forgo-taiwan-to-grab-eastern-russia/?sh=2b6faea66ce4
Summary of the above article:
China is all about expansionism.
Taiwan is its latest target.
Russia is being weakened by the war in Ukraine.
China should consider the Russian Far East region its for expansion.
This would be an easier grab than Taiwan.
Should China take advantage of a weakening Russia and prepare itself to grab part of the Russian Far East?neighbors near and far to form alliances against China. Example, the QUAD of US, India, Japan and Australia. Mongolia is another next door neighbor of China the US is trying hard to court.
The world is in a Romance of Three superpowers - US, China, Russia.
Right now, US and Russia are enemies due to Ukraine. US considers a rising China its long term threat and enemy, one which will be worse than Russia.
Russia is China’s big and nuclear-powered neighbor to the north. The US, though geographically far away across the Pacific, has a much more powerful military presence in the neighborhood of China. Moreover the US has the might to attract China’s
Right now and in the near future, the US and its allies which are neighbors of China collectively form the immediate grave threat to China. It would be unwise of China to make another enemy out of Russia, a big and powerful next door neighbor. Thatwould be a strategic disaster for China.
Instead of ignoring Taiwan and shifting focus to Russia’s Far East, it would be better strategy for China to assist Russia in Ukraine now and receive Russian assistance in return later to combat Taiwan Independence and Separation.
If Russia were to side with US against China, China would be finished. At the moment it looks unlikely due to Russia’s war in Ukraine against NATO. One can never tell how this will change. Before this, Russia has wanted to join the EU and NATO. Itwas the US narrow-mindedness that had prevented this. It was afraid that it would lose its dominance over the EU and NATO. The war in Ukraine may change all these. To prevent the war from escalating towards a nuclear one, which would weaken US, Europe
Look at the map of Russia’s Far East. https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=russian+far+east+map&biw=960&bih=432&ei=8p1YY-ykCrDxz7sPw5et2Ao&oq="russian+far+east"&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYAjIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzIKCAAQRxDWBBCwA0oECE0YAUoECEEYAEoECEYYAFAAWABgnxxoAXABeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQDIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz
What China needs most is a way out to the Sea of Japan. This would allow it to project its naval power to the northern part of Japan and have a shorter sea route to the Arctic as well as the US northern Pacific coast. It’s only a few year back, aftermuch negotiations with North Korea, that China was allowed to access a part of North Korea to enter the Sea of Japan. This is not good enough. If China were to help Russia win in Ukraine, it can negotiate with Russia for a bigger slice of land to access
It’s a wrong strategy for China to forget about Taiwan and instead seek an opportunity to seize Russian land in the Far East from a Russia weakened by the war in Ukraine. Its better to assist Russia in Ukraine in return for Russia’s assistance tofight against the US-and-allies over Taiwan.
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves Chinese ,
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as a
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
, anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves Chinese
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
Its a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.s next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal is several
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in China'
This war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call it theIndo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border with China.
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
If there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced to
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China the
The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in withnon-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?
Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is this:price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.
The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very heavy
The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan as
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and co-
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal isIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in
the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border withThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call it
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China the
non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in with
heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is this:
The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very
towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and phobia
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal isIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in
the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border withThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call it
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China the
with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in
heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is this:
The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very
towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and phobia
President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as theFather of Modern China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiIstraits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile their differences.
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated by a
But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.
On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while themilitarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.
2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased. Whenthis happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of the
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal isIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in
it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border withThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China
with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in
this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is
heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very
towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and phobia
ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as the
a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile theirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated by
led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the US-
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of the2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased. When
US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Don't think 2024 would be decisive.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan. They areWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat Taiwan
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan and
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal isIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in
the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border withThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call it
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China the
with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in
heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is this:
The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very
towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and phobia
President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as theFather of Modern China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiIstraits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile their differences.
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated by a
But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.
On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while themilitarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.
2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased. Whenthis happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of the
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal isIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in
it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border withThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China
with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in
this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is
heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very
towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and phobia
ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as the
a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile theirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated by
led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the US-
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of the2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased. When
US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Don't think 2024 would be decisive.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenalIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are
call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan borderThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China
in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join
this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is
very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a
phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and
ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as the
by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile theirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated
US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased.
US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:56:12 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:an independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence
themselves Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenalIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are
call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan borderThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
China the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These areIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', '
in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join
this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is
very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a
phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and
style ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-
the Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as
separated by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan,
US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased.
US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Just on your say so?Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
America's very successful PRESIDENT FOR LIFE had popularized the idea
of "speak softly and carry a big stick." Chinese leaders would certainly think
similarly. But then 2027, 2072 or 2023 will make no difference.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.Being taken very seriously by the US means . . . ? ? ?
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 12:01:24 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:an independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:56:12 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
Independence and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful
themselves Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
are in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclearIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which
call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan borderThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
China the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These areIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', '
join in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and
is this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It
very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a
phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and
style ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-
the Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as
separated by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan,
the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President ofBut evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased.
US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Just on your say so?Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
America's very successful PRESIDENT FOR LIFE had popularized the idea
of "speak softly and carry a big stick." Chinese leaders would certainly think
similarly. But then 2027, 2072 or 2023 will make no difference.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.Being taken very seriously by the US means . . . ? ? ?
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
After visiting Dr. Sun Yat Sen mausoleum and the war memorial in Nanjing, Ma Yingjeou paid homage to his ancestry in Hunan.The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn90f6E6AxA
He has also stated openly that people on both sides of the strait are all Chinese belonging to one family.
These are all symbolic. He is telling the world that people on both sides of the strait share a common history, ancestry and root.
Meanwhile, leader of the Taiwan Independents, Tsai Ing-wen is in the US to deny all these. She is working with American politicians and militarists on how to have an independent Taiwan separated from China, a people without root, only knowing how toape the West in values.
These Taiwan Independents are completely without human values.
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 5:27:33 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:be an independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 12:01:24 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:56:12 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to
treat Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections withWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them
Independence and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful
themselves Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US. 3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
are in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclearIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which
and call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its HimalayanThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence. Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
China the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These areIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', '
join in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and
It is this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity.
a very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying
them.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on
phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and
style ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-
as the Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise
separated by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan,
the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President ofBut evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
increased. When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much
ape the West in values.US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Just on your say so?Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
America's very successful PRESIDENT FOR LIFE had popularized the idea
of "speak softly and carry a big stick." Chinese leaders would certainly think
similarly. But then 2027, 2072 or 2023 will make no difference.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.Being taken very seriously by the US means . . . ? ? ?
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
After visiting Dr. Sun Yat Sen mausoleum and the war memorial in Nanjing, Ma Yingjeou paid homage to his ancestry in Hunan.The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn90f6E6AxADon't think so.
He has also stated openly that people on both sides of the strait are all Chinese belonging to one family.
These are all symbolic. He is telling the world that people on both sides of the strait share a common history, ancestry and root.
He is consistent. And he is a true believer and a follower of the ROC Constitution.
Meanwhile, leader of the Taiwan Independents, Tsai Ing-wen is in the US to deny all these. She is working with American politicians and militarists on how to have an independent Taiwan separated from China, a people without root, only knowing how to
These Taiwan Independents are completely without human values.Unless one indiscriminately hates China and Chinese, otherwise he or she would be more discerning and not labeling all Taiwan leaders as Taiwan Independents and not calling all Taiwan Independents without human
values as a mean to sow hatred among Chinese and misunderstanding
among non-Chinese.
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 10:32:16 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:to be an independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 5:27:33 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 12:01:24 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:56:12 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan
treat Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections withWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them
Independence and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful
themselves Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US. 3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
which are in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclearIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of
and call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its HimalayanThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence. Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
'China the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These areIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism',
and join in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese
It is this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity.
paying a very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are
them.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on
and phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred
Western-style ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted
as the Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise
separated by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan,
by the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President ofBut evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported
the militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while
increased. When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much
to ape the West in values.US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Just on your say so?Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
America's very successful PRESIDENT FOR LIFE had popularized the idea of "speak softly and carry a big stick." Chinese leaders would certainly think
similarly. But then 2027, 2072 or 2023 will make no difference.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.Being taken very seriously by the US means . . . ? ? ?
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
After visiting Dr. Sun Yat Sen mausoleum and the war memorial in Nanjing, Ma Yingjeou paid homage to his ancestry in Hunan.The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn90f6E6AxADon't think so.
He has also stated openly that people on both sides of the strait are all Chinese belonging to one family.
These are all symbolic. He is telling the world that people on both sides of the strait share a common history, ancestry and root.
He is consistent. And he is a true believer and a follower of the ROC Constitution.
Meanwhile, leader of the Taiwan Independents, Tsai Ing-wen is in the US to deny all these. She is working with American politicians and militarists on how to have an independent Taiwan separated from China, a people without root, only knowing how
Taiwan ex-President Ma Yingjeou walked the night streets of Changsha. Huge crowds greeted him with “Hello, Mr. Ma. Welcome Home”.These Taiwan Independents are completely without human values.Unless one indiscriminately hates China and Chinese, otherwise he or she would be more discerning and not labeling all Taiwan leaders as Taiwan Independents and not calling all Taiwan Independents without human
values as a mean to sow hatred among Chinese and misunderstanding
among non-Chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQvNvl7J_E
This shows people on both sides of the strait consider themselves to be of one family. They would want to live peacefully and happily together. But this is not what the Westerners wish to see. Instead they want to see hostilities between the people onboth sides of the strait until war breaks out between them. For this, they have indoctrinated some in Taiwan, the Taiwan Independents, to become independent and separated from China and to look upon Chinese as the enemies to be destroyed.
These Westerners belittle politics based on relationships as Identity Politics and degrade them as primitive Tribalism. Instead they belief their versions of democracy, freedom and human rights are the modern way to go.rights, to fight and kill the Russians as enemies. As a result, the Ukrainians are suffering massive death and destruction, with no end in sight. While the Ukrainians suffer horribly, the Westerners, especially the Americans, are making tons of money by
The people in Taiwan should look at the living example of Ukraine. Under Western influence, the Slavs in Ukraine disregard their common history, ancestry and root with the Slavs in Russia. They are convinced, in the name of democracy, freedom and human
Taiwanese should kick those Taiwan Independents out of power and out of Taiwan before the island end up as Ukraine.
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 4:29:16 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:to be an independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 10:32:16 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 5:27:33 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 12:01:24 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:56:12 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan
treat Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections withWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them
Independence and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful
themselves Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
to Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
which are in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclearIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of
Ocean and call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at itsThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian
might.The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence. Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
, 'China the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These areIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism'
and join in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese
ambiguity. It is this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no
paying a very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are
them.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on
and phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred
Western-style ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted
recognise as the Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese
separated by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan,
supported by the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and theBut evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and
the militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while
increased. When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much
to ape the West in values.US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Just on your say so?Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
America's very successful PRESIDENT FOR LIFE had popularized the idea
of "speak softly and carry a big stick." Chinese leaders would certainly think
similarly. But then 2027, 2072 or 2023 will make no difference.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.Being taken very seriously by the US means . . . ? ? ?
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
After visiting Dr. Sun Yat Sen mausoleum and the war memorial in Nanjing, Ma Yingjeou paid homage to his ancestry in Hunan.The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn90f6E6AxADon't think so.
He has also stated openly that people on both sides of the strait are all Chinese belonging to one family.
These are all symbolic. He is telling the world that people on both sides of the strait share a common history, ancestry and root.
He is consistent. And he is a true believer and a follower of the ROC Constitution.
Meanwhile, leader of the Taiwan Independents, Tsai Ing-wen is in the US to deny all these. She is working with American politicians and militarists on how to have an independent Taiwan separated from China, a people without root, only knowing how
Taiwan ex-President Ma Yingjeou walked the night streets of Changsha. Huge crowds greeted him with “Hello, Mr. Ma. Welcome Home”.These Taiwan Independents are completely without human values.Unless one indiscriminately hates China and Chinese, otherwise he or she would be more discerning and not labeling all Taiwan leaders as Taiwan Independents and not calling all Taiwan Independents without human values as a mean to sow hatred among Chinese and misunderstanding
among non-Chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQvNvl7J_E
on both sides of the strait until war breaks out between them. For this, they have indoctrinated some in Taiwan, the Taiwan Independents, to become independent and separated from China and to look upon Chinese as the enemies to be destroyed.This shows people on both sides of the strait consider themselves to be of one family. They would want to live peacefully and happily together. But this is not what the Westerners wish to see. Instead they want to see hostilities between the people
human rights, to fight and kill the Russians as enemies. As a result, the Ukrainians are suffering massive death and destruction, with no end in sight. While the Ukrainians suffer horribly, the Westerners, especially the Americans, are making tons ofThese Westerners belittle politics based on relationships as Identity Politics and degrade them as primitive Tribalism. Instead they belief their versions of democracy, freedom and human rights are the modern way to go.
The people in Taiwan should look at the living example of Ukraine. Under Western influence, the Slavs in Ukraine disregard their common history, ancestry and root with the Slavs in Russia. They are convinced, in the name of democracy, freedom and
Taiwanese should kick those Taiwan Independents out of power and out of Taiwan before the island end up as Ukraine.Ma's greatest contribution is that he reminded the world that that both the PRC and the ROC have considered both sides
of the Strait the two regions of One China and One people.
https://www.chinatimes.com/opinion/20230410000018-262110?chdtv "馬英九在湖南大學的演講，是以法學論點角度來闡明兩岸關係，他表示除了《中華民國憲法》
在1997年增修時將中國分成自由地區與大陸地區兩個部分，另外在《台灣地區與大陸地區人
民關係條例》第2條中，清清楚楚的定義何謂台灣地區、何謂大陸地區，台灣地區是指台灣、
澎湖、金門、馬祖，大陸地區是指台灣地區以外之中華民國領土。
... 馬英九說出「兩岸同屬一個中國」，絕對不僅止於自嗨或自我感覺良好。對於一向追求
「祖國統一」的中共而言，只要能夠完成兩岸早日統一，在任何可以促進統一的形式上都有
討論空間，如今馬英九提出中華民國憲法框架下的「兩岸同屬一個中國」，對於中共來說，
正與「兩岸統一」的終極目標一拍即合，至於要用什麼方式、制度或模式可以留到之後再談。
此外，馬英九也擁護著兩岸關係發展的定海神針「九二共識」，馬英九及國民黨對於九二
共識的詮釋為「兩岸都承認只有一個中國（中華民國），但各自表述」（一中各表），但
中共對於九二共識的看法為「世界上只有一個中國，中華人民共和國政府是代表全中國的
唯一合法政府，台灣是中國領土不可分割的一部分」（一個中國原則）。"
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:44:18 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:Taiwan to be an independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 4:29:16 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 10:32:16 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 5:27:33 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 12:01:24 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:56:12 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:45:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want
them treat Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections withWhat about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of
Independence and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful
consider themselves Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
systems to Taiwan and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
which are in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclearIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of
Ocean and call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at itsThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian
might.The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China. It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
Expansionism', 'China the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China.If there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese
Chinese and join in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland
ambiguity. It is this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no
paying a very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are
on them.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends
hatred and phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in
Western-style ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted
recognise as the Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese
separated by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan,
supported by the US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and theBut evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and
while the militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena
increased. When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much
how to ape the West in values.US cannot effectively compete with China (PRC), it badly want to use ROC to compete with China.
Hence, it stirs things up to put stress on PRC-ROC relationship. Ma's trip is to de-stress. And hopefully
find a way to improve bilateral relationship.
Just on your say so?Don't think 2024 would be decisive.2027 is the year that China has set itself to reunify with Taiwan.
The way I see it, voting should be considered harmful in general. However, 2024 election in Taiwan
would not really break the “不统、不独、不武” framework anytime soon. PRC leaders would never
give up using force but will continue to kick the can down the road as long as possible. Green ROC
leaders would continue to repeat their "抗中保台" election slogan under the implicit “不统、不独、不武”
framework.
America's very successful PRESIDENT FOR LIFE had popularized the idea
of "speak softly and carry a big stick." Chinese leaders would certainly think
similarly. But then 2027, 2072 or 2023 will make no difference.
This is being taken very seriously by the US. In preparation for this, the US, together with some of its Asia-Pacific allies, has already begun to set up the military might around China.Being taken very seriously by the US means . . . ? ? ?
Whichever party wins the 2024 Presidential Election, its term will overlap 2027. By then, a DPP government that insists on independence will highly increase the risk of war with China.
2027 may not be reached before war breaks out. Once the DPP wins in 2024, the US-led side will rapidly ramp up its military aid to Taiwan and its military might around China. This may provoke China to start the war.
That is why 2024 is a critical year.
After visiting Dr. Sun Yat Sen mausoleum and the war memorial in Nanjing, Ma Yingjeou paid homage to his ancestry in Hunan.The saving grace to all these will be a KMT victory in the Election. This will highly increase the chances of peaceful reunification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn90f6E6AxADon't think so.
He has also stated openly that people on both sides of the strait are all Chinese belonging to one family.
These are all symbolic. He is telling the world that people on both sides of the strait share a common history, ancestry and root.
He is consistent. And he is a true believer and a follower of the ROC Constitution.
Meanwhile, leader of the Taiwan Independents, Tsai Ing-wen is in the US to deny all these. She is working with American politicians and militarists on how to have an independent Taiwan separated from China, a people without root, only knowing
Taiwan ex-President Ma Yingjeou walked the night streets of Changsha. Huge crowds greeted him with “Hello, Mr. Ma. Welcome Home”.These Taiwan Independents are completely without human values.Unless one indiscriminately hates China and Chinese, otherwise he or she
would be more discerning and not labeling all Taiwan leaders as Taiwan Independents and not calling all Taiwan Independents without human values as a mean to sow hatred among Chinese and misunderstanding among non-Chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQvNvl7J_E
on both sides of the strait until war breaks out between them. For this, they have indoctrinated some in Taiwan, the Taiwan Independents, to become independent and separated from China and to look upon Chinese as the enemies to be destroyed.This shows people on both sides of the strait consider themselves to be of one family. They would want to live peacefully and happily together. But this is not what the Westerners wish to see. Instead they want to see hostilities between the people
human rights, to fight and kill the Russians as enemies. As a result, the Ukrainians are suffering massive death and destruction, with no end in sight. While the Ukrainians suffer horribly, the Westerners, especially the Americans, are making tons ofThese Westerners belittle politics based on relationships as Identity Politics and degrade them as primitive Tribalism. Instead they belief their versions of democracy, freedom and human rights are the modern way to go.
The people in Taiwan should look at the living example of Ukraine. Under Western influence, the Slavs in Ukraine disregard their common history, ancestry and root with the Slavs in Russia. They are convinced, in the name of democracy, freedom and
Taiwanese should kick those Taiwan Independents out of power and out of Taiwan before the island end up as Ukraine.Ma's greatest contribution is that he reminded the world that that both the PRC and the ROC have considered both sides
of the Strait the two regions of One China and One people.
https://www.chinatimes.com/opinion/20230410000018-262110?chdtv "馬英九在湖南大學的演講，是以法學論點角度來闡明兩岸關係，他表示除了《中華民國憲法》
在1997年增修時將中國分成自由地區與大陸地區兩個部分，另外在《台灣地區與大陸地區人
民關係條例》第2條中，清清楚楚的定義何謂台灣地區、何謂大陸地區，台灣地區是指台灣、
澎湖、金門、馬祖，大陸地區是指台灣地區以外之中華民國領土。
... 馬英九說出「兩岸同屬一個中國」，絕對不僅止於自嗨或自我感覺良好。對於一向追求
「祖國統一」的中共而言，只要能夠完成兩岸早日統一，在任何可以促進統一的形式上都有
討論空間，如今馬英九提出中華民國憲法框架下的「兩岸同屬一個中國」，對於中共來說，
正與「兩岸統一」的終極目標一拍即合，至於要用什麼方式、制度或模式可以留到之後再談。
此外，馬英九也擁護著兩岸關係發展的定海神針「九二共識」，馬英九及國民黨對於九二
共識的詮釋為「兩岸都承認只有一個中國（中華民國），但各自表述」（一中各表），但
中共對於九二共識的看法為「世界上只有一個中國，中華人民共和國政府是代表全中國的
唯一合法政府，台灣是中國領土不可分割的一部分」（一個中國原則）。"
And for those journalists who write about China and an independent Taiwan not part of China
ignoring the ROC Constitution, they are writing fictions.
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence and
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenal isIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are in
it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan border withThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and call
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China
with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join in
this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is
heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a very
towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and phobia
ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as the
a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile theirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated by
led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the US-
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of the2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased. When
Ma Yingjeou visited the memorial for those victims of the Nanjing Massacre carried out by the Japs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ebyhvvTJY
Japs colonised Taiwan for fifty years from 1895 to 1945. It carried out a full-scale invasion of Mainland China on 7/7/1937. Millions of Chinese suffered massacres, mass rapes and most heinous atrocities under Japs Imperial Rule. No Chinese shouldforget that.
But not those Taiwan Independents. First they would shed their Chinese identity and morph into a new race of Taiwanese which means that that part of Chinese history has nothing to do with them. Next, they will collaborate with the Japs to fight againstChina.
The Japs are preparing for this. The American obsession with the Chinese Threat has blinded them to a worse Japanese Threat. The Americans are encouraging the Japs to remilitarise. The Japs are in high heaven over this. They see it as a chance toIndependents are prepared to ally with Japan, US and allies to fight against China, even if that means an invasion of the Mainland.
1. redeem the honor of their nation’s defeat during WW2 when Japs become the first nation and race of people to be nuked and
2. become an Imperial Power again, maybe even Global Superpower.
The Japs have torn up their Pacifist Constitution and tossed it to the wind. Japan can now mount external military missions against other nations again, just like Imperial Japan during WW2. The Japs have vowed to defend Taiwan against China. The Taiwan
These Taiwan Independents form a grave threat to China. The Chinese may not have the luxury to wait till 2027 to bring the Taiwan issue to a decisive end.
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 5:02:37 AM UTC, jim gavon wrote:independent political entity on its own, separated from China. A DPP government rules Taiwan as an independent nation. That’s the reality. The wordings in the Constitution may be different but that’s moot. They will be changed as DPP rule becomes
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:11:22 PM UTC, jim gavon wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:22:52 AM UTC, wog wacker wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:21:05 AM UTC, dosai prata wrote:
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:29:31 AM UTC, frodo sam0 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 8:17:10 AM UTC, decadence thlon wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:13:22 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 5:29:59 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:54:23 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
And they will be very disappointed. But in the long run, the US is a non issue.
Not Taiwan.China can wait. However, China will NEVER renounce the Responsibility to reunifyWhat would Taiwan do in what situation when reversed?
and the Right to reunify by force if necessary. ROC should and would do the same
if the situation is reversed.
Taiwan as an independent political entity does not exists, past and present.
ROC, however, exists and it exits to benefit all Chinese for both short and long
term.
The PRC will do everything, including the military, to reunify because suchRoC - Republic of China
unification is believed to be necessary and unavoidable in order to benefit the
Chinese people for the short and especially the long term.
PRC - People’s Republic of China
In both references, the China refers to Mainland China and the island of Taiwan+some small islands(for short, Taiwan).
RoC is only meaningful to the Kuomintang. To those Taiwan Independents and its political arm DPP, they are not interested in a China that binds together the Mainland and Taiwan. They are only interested in Taiwan. They want Taiwan to be an
Taiwan as a de facto nation, referring to it fondly and protectively as a self-ruling democracy. Those that matter include The Five Eyes, EU and Japan. That’s more than enough. These maintain political, economic and culture connections with Taiwan.What about the rest of the world? There are only few remaining countries left which have diplomat relationships with Taiwan. Many more declare that they have a ‘One China’ policy. That's only in words. In reality, many of them treat
and Separation.That’s the peaceful status quo. Reunification will not happen under it. Instead, it means a Taiwan which will grow more independent and separated from China. In short, there will be no Peaceful Reunification, only Peaceful Independence
Chinese , anyway. Why would Chinese in the world want to side with them?https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/xi-would-be-sinner-all-chinese-if-he-attacks-taiwan-security-official-says-2022-10-20/
The Taiwanese official does not know what he is talking about. The truth is this. If Xi were to lead China to attack Taiwan, he would only be a sinner to those Taiwan Independents (TI). These traitors of their race don’t consider themselves
The DPP government is colluding with enemies of China. It is ever ready to offer itself for use as a pawn against China.
It is getting closer with India. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/10/12/2003786875
It will accept more Indian immigrants into Taiwan to dilute the Chinese population there. If India were to be at war with China, the DPP government would allow Taiwan to become another front against China.
and co-produce US weapons in Taiwan with the DPP government.When it comes to using Taiwan as a pawn, the US is the worst of the lot. The US is using all excuses and means to make Taiwan independent and separate from China. In the latest move, it is going to send staff and and weapon systems to Taiwan
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-government-considering-joint-production-weapons-with-taiwan-nikkei-2022-10-19/
TI and its political arm DPP is pushing Taiwan towards war with China. The US is willing to get in the way of China-Taiwan Reunification. This makes war between the US and China inevitable.
Can China win a war with the US in order to reunify with Taiwan? Before this, is China ready for a war with the US?
If the war has to be fought in Asia-Pacific around China’s neighborhood, then China will lose before it even start fighting. The reasons being:
1. The US has a strong military presence in the Asia-Pacific with military bases close to China.
2. It can further project its military might across the Pacific with its aircraft carrier fleets.
3. Chinese industrial complex will be destroyed while the US’s continue to operate.
4. The US military has more war experience than China’s.
Before starting a war with the US, China should establish the following preconditions for itself.
1. military presence around US neighborhood like in the islands of the Caribbean.
2. aircraft carrier fleets which can speed towards the US.
3. weapons which can leapfrog or bypass those US rings-of-fires around China to attack the US mainland directly.
This is unlikely to happen within the next 5 years. 10 years, maybe. 20 years, more likely.https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
in China's next-door neighbors. Already, US aircraft carriers can sail as close to China as the Taiwan Straits, unmolested. Its surveillance planes can fly close to the Chinese coast, again unmolested. Not forgetting that the current US nuclear arsenalIts a war of China against US-Taiwan-Japan. China is predicted to lose. This is not surprising. It's a wrong place and time for China.
China is not likely to win a war against US-Taiwan-Japan if the theater of war is in Asia-Pacific. In Asia-Pacific, US military might has a heavy presence in close proximity to China. China is surrounded by US military bases some of which are
call it the Indo-Pacific. Through this ruse, India, though not a Pacific nation, can get itself involve in Pacific affairs. If war were to breakout between China and US-Taiwan-Japan, the US would push India to start another front at its Himalayan borderThis war game is unrealistic. It misses a very significant participant – India. The US would definitely pull in India in a Asia-Pacific War. It has prepared for this by imagining a continuous ocean from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean and
The Asia-Pacific is not the right place, and now is not the right time, for a China against US-Taiwan-Japan War.
Would China want to attack Taiwan now? US is the deciding factor. If China can take on the US alone, that will change the whole game.
When can China take on the US alone?
1) It has achieved nuclear parity with the US or sufficiently close to it. From the Russia-Ukraine War, we can see how important this is for China. The US dare not get itself directly involve in the war because of Russia's nuclear might.
2) Chinese military might can reach closed to mainland USA.Chinese have military bases close to the US mainland. Chinese aircraft carrier and submarine fleets can exercise their "freedom-of-navigation" along both coasts of the US.
3) Chinese nuclear-tipped missiles can cover the whole of the US mainland from coast-to-coast.
Under this condition,
Taiwan Independents would not be pushing for Independence.
Most Chinese in Taiwan would opt for unity with China.
It would scare off Japan and India too.
In this way, China can avoid a war with the US-Taiwan-Japan without having to fire a single shot.
the regional bully', Chinese might-makes-right mentality', and other cliches and slogans are being used to demonise China and create Sinophobia among China's neighbors, especially those which have territorial disputes with China. These are convinced toIf there is no war, who will reap a higher dividend-of-peace, the Americans or the Chinese? Without war, China will continue its meteoric rise until it surpasses the US.
The Americans know this - in peace China will win and in war China will lose. This is why the Americans are trying hard to push China into a trap of war. They are trying all sorts of dirty tricks. 'China Threat', 'Chinese Expansionism', 'China
in with non-Chinese to fight against their fellow Chinese? All these over some voodoo values of Western-style democracy, unbridled freedom and wanton human rights?The Americans are failing in pragmatism like economic development. They are selling their values to compete with China. Will the Chinese in Taiwan forget their common root, ancestry and 5000 years of history with the mainland Chinese and join
this:Ukraine today is providing a valuable lesson to the Chinese in Taiwan. The Chinese in Taiwan should ask themselves how Ukraine end up in the pathetic state that it is now. The lesson from Ukraine is crystal clear. There is no ambiguity. It is
very heavy price for it. They are suffering massive deaths and destruction. They have become cannon fodders in a proxy war between the West and Russia. It's not over yet. No one knows how long and how much more the Ukrainians will have to suffer.The Ukrainians were fooled by the Westerners to forget their common Slavic root, ancestry and long history with the Russians. They allow Ukraine to be used by non-Slavic powers to threaten the security of Russia. The Ukrainians are paying a
phobia towards China. Any American who suggests friendliness towards China is shut-up. This makes war between the two nations more likely.The Chinese in Taiwan should learn the right lessons they are getting from the Ukrainian. Westerners are using the war in Ukraine as reasons why Taiwan should fiercely resist mainland China invasion and become independent.
https://www.ft.com/content/187c3c2f-97b2-4abe-982e-8dfba86cecec
Will the majority Chinese in Taiwan be foolish enough to let the Westerners and their Taiwan Independents dogs lead them to the same fate as the Ukrainians are in now? Will they too suffer like the Ukrainians do now? It all depends on them.
Watch this video of the CSIS Conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZv_7KYMkA
1:16:15 A member of the audience, referring to the cost of the war in Ukraine, suggested diplomacy with China.
The mic was taken away from her. Where is the freedom of speech?
1:17:40 One guy referred to 2027 as the 100th anniversary of PRC. None of the speakers corrected him. This shows how ignorant Americans are about China.
Ordinary Americans are generally ignorant about China and only know that country through their media.The media is feeding them with misinformation, half-truth and fake news about China. As a result, the whole of US is engulfed in hatred and
ideologies of democracy, freedom and human rights. In the name of these, they are prepared to go to war to kill and destroy their fellow Chinese on the Mainland.President Tsai Ing-wen, leader of the Taiwan Independents’ DPP will visit the US soon. Preempting her, Ma Yingjeou, ex-President of Taiwan and ex-leader of the KMT , is visiting China.
There is a deep contrast between these two visits. It’s that of War and Peace. While Tsai is on a mission of War, Ma is on a mission of Peace. There is also a deep contrast to who and what these two politicians from Taiwan represent.
Tsai Ing-wen represents those Chinese in Taiwan, so called Taiwan Independents, who want to forget their Chinese ancestry, history and culture. They want to identify themselves as belonging to a new race of Taiwanese who have adopted Western-style
Father of Modern China.Ma Yingjeou represents those Chinese in Taiwan who never forget the common ancestry, history and culture they share with the Chinese on the Mainland. While in China, he has visited the mausoleum of Dr. Sun Yat Sen whom all Chinese recognise as the
by a straits. Despite such unfortunate history, both sides recognise the same Founder and never forget that the Mainland and the Island of Taiwan together form One China and the people are of the same stock. Now, they are ready to reconcile theirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s088-WzGiI
This is most symbolic of Chinese history over the last 100 years. It was ideology that caused the Chinese Kuomintang and Communists to fight and kill themselves massively until it brought about the partition of Mainland China and Taiwan, separated
US-led West to fight for independence and separation of the island from the mainland. Their political arm is the Democratic Progressive Party which runs the current government in Taiwan. Tsai Ing-wen is their current leader and the President of Taiwan.But evil forces are at work to prevent this from happening. Since the 1990s, the Americans have fomented independence and separatism among the Taiwanese. These so called Taiwan Independents are indoctrinated, organised, armed and supported by the
militarists will advise her on how to prepare for war. More precisely, how she will have to prepare Taiwan as a proxy in the coming US War With China.On her visit to the US, Tsai Ing-wen will confer with American politicians and militarists. The politicians will advise her on how to confront the Mainland Government and expand Taiwan’s space in the international political arena while the
When this happens, it will not be only US and Taiwan against China. It will be US-led Coalition of Western and Asia-Pacific allies against China and its allies. If , by that time the war in Ukraine has not ended, the number and geographical coverage of2024 will be a decisive year for US, China, Taiwan and the whole world. It will be an election year in both Taiwan and the US, with the one in Taiwan proceeding first. If the DPP were to win in Taiwan, the chances of War will be much increased.
Ma Yingjeou visited the memorial for those victims of the Nanjing Massacre carried out by the Japs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ebyhvvTJY
forget that.Japs colonised Taiwan for fifty years from 1895 to 1945. It carried out a full-scale invasion of Mainland China on 7/7/1937. Millions of Chinese suffered massacres, mass rapes and most heinous atrocities under Japs Imperial Rule. No Chinese should
against China.But not those Taiwan Independents. First they would shed their Chinese identity and morph into a new race of Taiwanese which means that that part of Chinese history has nothing to do with them. Next, they will collaborate with the Japs to fight
Taiwan Independents are prepared to ally with Japan, US and allies to fight against China, even if that means an invasion of the Mainland.The Japs are preparing for this. The American obsession with the Chinese Threat has blinded them to a worse Japanese Threat. The Americans are encouraging the Japs to remilitarise. The Japs are in high heaven over this. They see it as a chance to
1. redeem the honor of their nation’s defeat during WW2 when Japs become the first nation and race of people to be nuked and
2. become an Imperial Power again, maybe even Global Superpower.
The Japs have torn up their Pacifist Constitution and tossed it to the wind. Japan can now mount external military missions against other nations again, just like Imperial Japan during WW2. The Japs have vowed to defend Taiwan against China. The
how beholden Taiwanese leadership is to the US.These Taiwan Independents form a grave threat to China. The Chinese may not have the luxury to wait till 2027 to bring the Taiwan issue to a decisive end.the DPP's candidate for the coming Taiwan Presidential Election is visiting the US. This is the usual practice in the past. All Presidential candidates have visited the US. Why? To be anointed by the US President as Taiwan's next President. This shows
The KMT should not follow suit. It will instead use the visit against the DPP in the campaign.
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