On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:39:16 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 2:33:50 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 10:16:54 AM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
[…]
2. Funding would be more difficult with Republicans more powerful because
a) they want to investigate Biden and his as well as his son's
dealing with Ukraine. For example, they would like to know "how Biden facilitated the trade in American weapons in "black markets" of Eastern Europe and the Middle East."
b) US support so far does not have grass root support.
Only "one percent of Americans consider assistance to Ukraine to be relevant."
[…]
See more at https://english.pravda.ru/world/153979-usa_ukraine_war/
IMHO it is possible but unlikely+ *soon*.
Au Contrarie. I will give the *soon* a pass. It depends on how successful is
Zelenskyy's near term offensive and whether it can be sustained.
But long term is a different story. Geopolitics is then likely to take priority over
shorter term domestic partisan politics. As reported previously, the US does not
mind a badly damaged Russia. But low level instability between Russia and other
European nations is not necessarily a bad thing from the US point of view. It
certainly would make the NATO continue to be relevant.
I looks like in big part wishful thinking by pravda.RU.
Sacrificing Ukraine at Russian altar *without profit* can make the issue important for US voters. So *fast* changes are unlikely IMHO.
I expect US support for Ukraine to be stable at least up to summer
2023. but it may turn out to be "insufficient" anyway,
Sacrificing Ukraine, not just at Russian altar, but also for some EU member
nations' sake. Concerning US voters, it should be first and foremost a European concern. US voters have many urgent needs themselves.
"Recent surveys conducted by YouGov in connection with Concerned Veterans for America (CVA)
asked 1000 American adults a series of questions on America’s current policy vis-à-vis Ukraine
and the Russian invasion. While Americans remain supportive of efforts to economically and
financially punish Russia for the invasion of its western neighbor, a plurality of respondents said
the United States should not put boots on the ground to assist the Ukrainians. The survey also
shows the American people, when given information about America’s pre-existing commitments
to Ukraine, believe the U.S. should rein in its military assistance for the Ukrainians to be in line
with wealthy European nations.
Of those surveyed from Sept. 9 through Sept. 12, 48 percent opposed “sending US troops to Ukraine
to help the Ukrainian government defend itself against Russia,” while only 20 percent were in favor.
Another 31 percent neither supported nor opposed such a move. A survey conducted from Sept. 1
through Sept. 6 by YouGov and CVA also found broad opposition to “direct combat for US troops in
the Russia-Ukraine War.” Forty percent of respondents were strongly opposed and another 17 percent
were somewhat opposed. More respondents were "somewhat opposed" to direct combat involvement
by U.S. troops than "somewhat supported" (10 percent) or "strongly supported" (4 percent) U.S. troops’
involvement. Just under a fifth of respondents (18 percent) were neutral on the question."
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/new-americans-opposed-to-boots-on-the-ground-in-ukraine-new-poll-finds/
"A group of 30 liberal Democratic representatives urged President Joe Biden to pursue
negotiations with Russia to end the war in Ukraine, in the first sign of disagreement in
the party over the White House's strategy.
In a letter to Biden, the lawmakers, led by Washington Rep. Pramila Jayapal, said that
direct negotiations with Russia should be opened in order to avoid prolonging the war
even further.
"Given the destruction created by this war for Ukraine and the world, as well as the risk
of catastrophic escalation, we also believe it is in the interests of Ukraine, the United
States, and the world to avoid a prolonged conflict," the members of the House of
Representatives wrote.
"For this reason, we urge you to pair the military and economic support the United States
has provided to Ukraine with a proactive diplomatic push, redoubling efforts to seek a
realistic framework for a ceasefire," the letter said.
The recommendation of seeking a ceasefire contradicts the current US strategy of arming
Ukraine and saying publicly that Kyiv must be in charge of when and how to seek negotiations.
Ukrainian officials have repeatedly rejected the idea of peace talks with Russia. Last month,
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that Russia's attempts to annex Ukrainian land meant
there was "nothing to talk about" so long as Russia's President Vladimir Putin remained in
power.
The Republicans, who have a powerful isolationist wing, may win back control of the House
in the November 8 midterms, complicating the picture for sending US aid to Ukraine."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/30-house-democrats-urged-biden-111846076.html
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