Poland Begins Building Wall to Prevent Russia From Pushing Migrants Into Europe By Karolina Jeznach and Drew Hinshaw, Nov. 2, 2022, WSJ

WARSAW—Polish army engineers began building a razor-wire fence across the country’s 130-mile border with Russia, the latest country in Europe’s east to construct such a barrier, in what Poland’s government described as a bid to prevent Moscow
from encouraging asylum seekers to cross overland into the European Union.

The fence will span the entire length of Poland’s border with the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak told reporters Wednesday. The construction began, he said, in response to concerns that Moscow would seek to encourage
asylum seekers to fly into the exclave and enter the EU via the Polish border.

The exclave’s international airport will soon be accepting regular commercial flights from the Middle East, Mr. Blaszczak said. Last month, the chief executive of the exclave’s Khrabrovo Airport, Alexander Korytnyi, told Russia’s Interfax news
agency that it aims to negotiate direct flights to the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on Poland’s decision to erect the barrier and its warnings that Moscow plans to facilitate illegal border crossings at the Kaliningrad border.

“This is the Poles’ business. You need to ask the Poles to comment,” Mr. Peskov told reporters.

Russia’s European borders are increasingly closed and fenced off, with governments like Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania worried that Russian operatives could enter the EU overland and carry out attacks on the continent’s energy and defense
infrastructure. Norway, whose Arctic border post with Russia remains one of the sole crossings still largely open, has arrested a series of Russian men accused of trying to fly small surveillance drones near such sites.

Finland, Estonia, and Latvia have all announced plans to construct fencing along their Russian borders—with some stretches already complete. Georgia, which has about a fifth of its territory under Russian occupation, has also been under domestic
pressure to tighten restrictions at its border, after hundreds of thousands of Russian draft-age men fled Putin’s mobilization orders.

Poland’s border wall will begin with 3 temporary layers of razor-wire fencing, measuring over 8 feet tall and 10 feet in width. Later, it will be replaced with a larger and more sophisticated electronically-surveilled structure, similar to the 18-foot-
tall steel wall Poland completed this year on the country’s border with Belarus, Mr. Blaszczak said.

Last year, the army of Belarus, which is closely allied with Russia, helped escort thousands of mainly Middle Eastern and African asylum seekers to the Polish border, prompting a political crisis for the EU.

Poland’s moves to seal off that border using water cannons, tear gas and a wall drew criticism from human-rights groups such as Amnesty International. But Poland had the vocal support of the EU’s European Commission, which offered to help pay for the
wall.

“That barricade saved our country from a flood of migrants,” said Mr. Blaszczak. “We want our borders to be tight.”

At least 23 people have died trying to enter the EU from Belarus since the start of 2021, according to the United Nations International Organization for Migration.

The Polish Border Patrol recently posted a video onto Twitter showing Belarusian border guards leading a group of migrants to a nearby forest.

Last month, the body of a Sudanese man was found in the Svislach river, where he apparently drowned trying to move through the only passage between Belarus and Poland that hasn’t been fenced off.

Poland has been one of Ukraine’s biggest benefactors in its war with Russia, trailing only the U.S. and U.K. in terms of the weapons it has gifted Ukraine, according to Germany’s Kiel Institute for the World Economy’s database of military aid
commitments.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-begins-building-wall-to-prevent-russia-from-pushing-migrants-into-europe-11667406332

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"David P." <imbibe@mindspring.com> wrote:

Poland Begins Building Wall to Prevent Russia From Pushing Migrants Into Europe
By Karolina Jeznach and Drew Hinshaw, Nov. 2, 2022, WSJ

WARSAW—Polish army engineers began building a razor-wire fence across
the country’s 130-mile border with Russia, the latest country in
Europe’s east to construct such a barrier, in what Poland’s government described as a bid to prevent Moscow from encouraging asylum seekers
to cross overland into the European Union.

The fence will span the entire length of Poland’s border with the
Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak
told reporters Wednesday. The construction began, he said, in response
to concerns that Moscow would seek to encourage asylum seekers to fly
into the exclave and enter the EU via the Polish border.

[…]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-begins-building-wall-to-prevent-russia-from-pushing-migrants-into-europe-11667406332

What is supposed to make it on topic in soc.culture.CHINA ?

Another interpretation: Putin made Poland pay for barrier against
Russian draft dodgers. [I do not treat it as more likely explanation but
it is a possible explanation too].

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On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 4:28:33 PM UTC+8, David P. wrote:

Poland Begins Building Wall to Prevent Russia From Pushing Migrants Into Europe
By Karolina Jeznach and Drew Hinshaw, Nov. 2, 2022, WSJ

WARSAW—Polish army engineers began building a razor-wire fence across the country’s 130-mile border with Russia, the latest country in Europe’s east to construct such a barrier, in what Poland’s government described as a bid to prevent Moscow

from encouraging asylum seekers to cross overland into the European Union.

The fence will span the entire length of Poland’s border with the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak told reporters Wednesday. The construction began, he said, in response to concerns that Moscow would seek to

encourage asylum seekers to fly into the exclave and enter the EU via the Polish border.

The exclave’s international airport will soon be accepting regular commercial flights from the Middle East, Mr. Blaszczak said. Last month, the chief executive of the exclave’s Khrabrovo Airport, Alexander Korytnyi, told Russia’s Interfax news

agency that it aims to negotiate direct flights to the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on Poland’s decision to erect the barrier and its warnings that Moscow plans to facilitate illegal border crossings at the Kaliningrad border.

“This is the Poles’ business. You need to ask the Poles to comment,” Mr. Peskov told reporters.

Russia’s European borders are increasingly closed and fenced off, with governments like Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania worried that Russian operatives could enter the EU overland and carry out attacks on the continent’s energy and defense

infrastructure. Norway, whose Arctic border post with Russia remains one of the sole crossings still largely open, has arrested a series of Russian men accused of trying to fly small surveillance drones near such sites.

Finland, Estonia, and Latvia have all announced plans to construct fencing along their Russian borders—with some stretches already complete. Georgia, which has about a fifth of its territory under Russian occupation, has also been under domestic

pressure to tighten restrictions at its border, after hundreds of thousands of Russian draft-age men fled Putin’s mobilization orders.

Poland’s border wall will begin with 3 temporary layers of razor-wire fencing, measuring over 8 feet tall and 10 feet in width. Later, it will be replaced with a larger and more sophisticated electronically-surveilled structure, similar to the 18-

foot-tall steel wall Poland completed this year on the country’s border with Belarus, Mr. Blaszczak said.

Last year, the army of Belarus, which is closely allied with Russia, helped escort thousands of mainly Middle Eastern and African asylum seekers to the Polish border, prompting a political crisis for the EU.

Poland’s moves to seal off that border using water cannons, tear gas and a wall drew criticism from human-rights groups such as Amnesty International. But Poland had the vocal support of the EU’s European Commission, which offered to help pay for

the wall.

“That barricade saved our country from a flood of migrants,” said Mr. Blaszczak. “We want our borders to be tight.”

At least 23 people have died trying to enter the EU from Belarus since the start of 2021, according to the United Nations International Organization for Migration.

The Polish Border Patrol recently posted a video onto Twitter showing Belarusian border guards leading a group of migrants to a nearby forest.

Last month, the body of a Sudanese man was found in the Svislach river, where he apparently drowned trying to move through the only passage between Belarus and Poland that hasn’t been fenced off.

Poland has been one of Ukraine’s biggest benefactors in its war with Russia, trailing only the U.S. and U.K. in terms of the weapons it has gifted Ukraine, according to Germany’s Kiel Institute for the World Economy’s database of military aid

commitments.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-begins-building-wall-to-prevent-russia-from-pushing-migrants-into-europe-11667406332

Every country in Europe is building walls and fencings to prevent migrants from crossing through unguarded amd porous forested long borders where management of them is not practical and is impossible to sustain without more costly manpower to man them.

The problem is under the US initiated self-inflicted migrant law in UN, any migrant entered another country will be the responsibility of that country and these migrants will remain there in their care for foods and shelters until another country is
willing to take them in from them.

This gives countries a chilly effects in not to guarding against any migrants from entering their country illegal without proper regulation of individual entry and not its entire relatives entry, regularised employment offers and proper training and
qualifications, and availability of proper provisions of housing and medical support to cater for the increased of them in the country.

Hence, the building of walls and laying of fencings and deploying dogs to monitor trespassing are normally taken to ensure their country in not to carry the intruders for others, In US, if a migrants had stayed 6 years would get a green card and
citizenship too. They should build wall like what the US had done halfway through and stopped by Biden. Migrants are okay for work but not entitlement to stay even if they have many relatives with them.

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A. Filip wrote:

"David P." wrote:

Poland Begins Building Wall to Prevent Russia From Pushing Migrants Into Europe
By Karolina Jeznach and Drew Hinshaw, Nov. 2, 2022, WSJ

WARSAW—Polish army engineers began building a razor-wire fence across the country’s 130-mile border with Russia, the latest country in Europe’s east to construct such a barrier, in what Poland’s government described as a bid to prevent Moscow from encouraging asylum seekers
to cross overland into the European Union.

The fence will span the entire length of Poland’s border with the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak
told reporters Wednesday. The construction began, he said, in response
to concerns that Moscow would seek to encourage asylum seekers to fly
into the exclave and enter the EU via the Polish border.

[…]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-begins-building-wall-to-prevent-russia-from-pushing-migrants-into-europe-11667406332

What is supposed to make it on topic in soc.culture.CHINA ?

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Russia is China's little brother!
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Poland Begins Building Wall to Prevent Russia From Pushing Migrants Into Europe
By Karolina Jeznach and Drew Hinshaw, Nov. 2, 2022, WSJ

WARSAW-Polish army engineers began building a razor-wire fence across the country's 130-mile border with Russia, the latest country in Europe's east
to construct such a barrier, in what Poland's government described as a bid to prevent Moscow from encouraging asylum seekers to cross overland into the European Union.

The exclave's international airport will soon be accepting regular
commercial flights from the Middle East, Mr. Blaszczak said.

There is / was nothing in the Russia's policies that might suggest
that Moscow might "encourage asylum seekers to cross into" Poland,
and the adventurous folks in the Middle East know well that Russia
is not a comfortable route for those who would seek to enter Europe
through Russia.

So on the Polish part it's a manifestive gesture. Such manifestive
gestures / claims, with an excessive dramatism and proudly emotional exaggeration, is a known Polish style. Some times it looks comic.

The Polish politicians also often make dramatic and dubious claims
on Germany and other neighbors (eg. <https://archive.is/k6tJ0>), but
the mainstream Atlanticist outlets like WSJ love to rebroadcast the
Polish hysteroidity towards Russia selectively, they do not promote
similar Polish hysteroidity towards someone else, because the latter
wouldn't serve the common Atlanticist agenda, so the ignorant WSJ's
audience gets a one-sided impression.

It all smells bit like a banana-republicness, of course, which would
be true also for the Baltic states as well as for some other post-
communist east-European "tigers".

In the recent incident with the Kiev's stray missile that killed two
local Polish peasants, the Polish banana politicians were initially enthusiastic to support "Russian attack" hoax (although it must have
been known from the very start whose the missile actually is), and
they had to pull back only after sobering shout from the US.

Georgia, which has about a fifth of its territory under Russian occupation, has also been under domestic pressure to tighten restrictions at its border, after hundreds of thousands of Russian draft-age men fled Putin's mobilization orders.

"Hundreds of thousands" is an exaggerated figure, and, in general,
the picture is distorted by this WSJ's disinformation article. The
Georgians en masse are quite friendly toward the draft dodgers from
Russia, only some marginal domestic extremist groups there demand "restrictions". Moreover, these Russians are bringing more economic
prosperity into Georgia. Recently, Georgia's central bank forecasted <https://archive.is/nVem1> that their national economy will grow by
10% over the year, which is much higher than expected before. Because
of "migration flows", they say, and the only remarkable migration
flows there are the draft dodgers from Russia. Armenia's central bank
recently predicted <https://archive.is/QC8pO> their national annual
growth up to 13% as well, and they say directly it's because of the
immigrants from Russia.

Poland's moves to seal off that border using water cannons, tear gas
and a wall drew criticism from human-rights groups such as Amnesty International.

At least 23 people have died trying to enter the EU from Belarus
since the start of 2021, according to the United Nations International Organization for Migration.

Yes it's known that Poland doesn't want "people of color" within the
country, and the Polish police treat them badly, which became a known
intra-EU issue in the recent years (eg. <https://archive.is/DMDX8>).

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Oleg Smirnov wrote:

Poland Begins Building Wall to Prevent Russia From Pushing Migrants Into Europe
By Karolina Jeznach and Drew Hinshaw, Nov. 2, 2022, WSJ
WARSAW-Polish army engineers began building a razor-wire fence across the country's 130-mile border with Russia, the latest country in Europe's east to construct such a barrier, in what Poland's government described as a bid
to prevent Moscow from encouraging asylum seekers to cross overland into the
European Union.
The exclave's international airport will soon be accepting regular commercial flights from the Middle East, Mr. Blaszczak said.

There is / was nothing in the Russia's policies that might suggest
that Moscow might "encourage asylum seekers to cross into" Poland,
and the adventurous folks in the Middle East know well that Russia
is not a comfortable route for those who would seek to enter Europe
through Russia.

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There's not much there except the Insterburg Castle, Bismarck Towers,
Gusev, and the Konigsburg Cathedral.
INSTERBURG CASTLE RUINS
In 1311, Teutonic mercenaries called Landsknechts set up a camp on the high banks
of the Angrapa River, close to where it flows into the Inster River. Later, in 1337,
the Teutonic Knights built a brick castle in the same location. Most of the construction works had been completed by 1347. The fortress was named Insterburg Castle.

For many centuries to follow, Insterburg Castle was a bastion located in the easternmost parts of the Teutonic State, from which raids against Lithuania were waged.
Originally, Insterburg Castle was meant to serve as a seat for the local commander,
known as komtur. But this plan had to be revoked, as the fortress was constantly
threatened by enemy. As a result, the castle was run by a Teutonic procurator, and
in the 14th - 15th centuries it became an important military base. In the administrative
division, Insterburg belonged to the commandry of Königsburg.

From 1643 to 1647, Maria Eleonora, a sister of the Prussian Prince Elector George
Wilhelm, spent her best days at Insterburg Castle, after her royal husband, King of
Sweden, Gustaw Adolf, had died. Following the death of her husband, Queen Maria
Eleonora had to leave Sweden due to a conflict with her daughter, Queen Christina.

In 1812, the castle was visited by the French Emperor, Napoleon Bonaparte. Napoleon
stopped here on his way to Russia, where he was going to take personal command over
his armies. In 1814, Elisabeth Alexeievna, the wife of Tzar Alexander I of Russia
(1777-1825) was passing through Insterburg. In 1689, Insterburg became the place of
the death and burial of Anchen von Tarau, a heroine of a well known East Prussian song.

Today the castle, which lies in the centre of the town of Chernyakhovsk is no more
but a picturesque ruin. The north section of the castle outward yard had more luck
as its building have survived and now house a museum. On the square in front of the
museum local enthusiasts and artists such as singers and musicians organise concerts,
contests and other cultural events. And most importantly, hope lingers on in the town
that one day the castle will be reconstructed. https://www.spottinghistory.com/view/1704/insterburg-castle-ruins/ ----------------
BISMARCK TOWERS
Two Bismarck Towers have been preserved: in the settlement of Gorino of the Nemansky District & settlement of Krasnaya Gorka of the Chernyakhovsky District.
Chernyakhovsky District:
Almost the only surviving tower of this kind in the Kaliningrad region (located in a field not far from village Krasnaya Gorka). In honor of the unification of Germany (at the end of the 19th century), in which Otto von Bismarck played a key role, many wealthy landowners, with the support of
local administrators, put on their territorial so-called “Bismarck Towers”.
They were used as viewing platforms.
The tower in Insterburg was solemnly opened with a large gathering of people on Sept. 7, 1913. Its height is 15 m. A special committee was formed to build the tower in the city. The construction lasted 3 months and cost 8000 marks. The project was developed with the participation of Schlichting, the member
of the city committee for the construction of the tower, the contractor was architect E. Kadereit. Internal dimensions were 6x6 m. Untreated boulders were used. A stone with the inscription "Bismarck" was laid above the entrance. Nemansky District:
The construction of this Bismarck Tower was initiated by Ober-President Georg von Lambsdorff, who was the district administrator of the Ragnit district between 1895 and 1905 and the president of the Gumbinnen administrative district
from 1915 to 1919.
The grand opening of the tower took place on August 17, 1912. At the time of the opening, the observation tower with a square floor plan had a height of 19.70 m and a lighting device at the top - a fire bowl in which firewood burned.
The tower was damaged by Russian bullets in the First World War, but was rebuilt.
After the Second World War, the building gradually fell into ruins. https://visit-kaliningrad.ru/en/entertainment/sightseeings4169/bashnya-bismarka -------------------
Gusev (German: Gumbinnen; Lithuanian: Gumbinė; Polish: Gąbin) is a town and the administrative center of Gusevsky District of Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia, located at the confluence of the Pissa and Krasnaya Rivers, near the border with Poland and Lithuania, east of Chernyakhovsk. Population: 28,260 (2010 Census)

The settlement of Gumbinnen (from Lithuanian: Gumbinė: pumpkin) in the Duchy of
Prussia, a vassal duchy of the Kingdom of Poland, was first mentioned in a 1580 deed. A Protestant parish was established in Gumbinnen at the behest of the Hohenzollern thanks to Duke Albert of Prussia about 1545 and the first church
was erected in 1582. It became part of Brandenburg-Prussia in 1618, remaining a fief of Poland.

From the 18th century, it was part of the Kingdom of Prussia. Between 1709-1711
the area was devastated by the Great Northern War plague outbreak and had to be
redeveloped under the rule of the "Soldier King" Frederick William I of Prussia,
who granted Gumbinnen town privileges in 1724 and from 1732 resettled the area with Salzburg Protestants, refugees from Salzburg, who had been expelled by Prince-Archbishop Count Leopold Anton von Firmian. The first filial church of the Salzburg Protestants was erected between 1752 and 1752, and was rebuilt in 1840 in a Neoclassical style according to plans designed by Karl Friedrich Schinkel.
The church was restored in 1995 by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Central Asia.

From 1815, Gumbinnen was the capital of Regierungsbezirk Gumbinnen, an administrative
district of the Province of East Prussia, and became part of the German Empire upon the unification of Germany in 1871. In 1860 the Prussian State railway line
from Königsberg to Stallupönen (now Nesterov) was built and the route passed through Gumbinnen, causing the town to grow in economic importance in the region.
By the end of the 19th century, Gumbinnen had a foundry, a machine shop, a furniture
factory, a clothing mill, two sawmills, several brickworks, and a dairy.

During World War I the town was the site of the Battle of Gumbinnen, a major battle
on the Eastern Front. The battle took place nearby in the opening days of the war
in August 1914, and Gumbinnen was subsequently occupied by the Russian Imperial Army
for several months. After the war, a power plant, the Ostpreussenwerk, was built in
Gumbinnen and powered much of East Prussia. At the beginning of the Nazi era, Gumbinnen was designated a military sub-region of the Königsberg military area.
Near the end of World War II, in 1944, the first of Gumbinnen's 24,000 residents
began to flee from the advancing Red Army, and a Soviet air attack on Oct. 16, 1944,
caused heavy damage to the inner town area. On Oct. 22, 1944, the town was taken by
Soviet forces, who engaged in numerous vengeful atrocities against the civilian
population before the Wehrmacht retook the town two days later. Although the German
forces retook Gumbinnen and managed in late October to stabilize the battle line east
of the town, it was quickly re-conquered by the Red Army during the great Soviet
East Prussia offensive on 21 January 1945. During the Evacuation of East Prussia,
the surviving German residents fled or were expelled.

Following the end of the war, under border changes promulgated at the Potsdam Conference in 1945, the northern part of the former province of East Prussia became a part of the Soviet Union, including Gumbinnen. The town was renamed Gusev,
in honour of a Red Army captain, Sergei Ivanovich Gusev, who was killed in action
near Gumbinnen in January 1945, and was posthumously given the award of Hero of
the Soviet Union on April 19, 1945. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gusev,_Kaliningrad_Oblast
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Königsberg Cathedral is a Brick Gothic-style monument in Kaliningrad, Russia, located on Kneiphof island in the Pregel (Pregolya) river. It is the most significant preserved building of the former City of Königsberg, which was largely destroyed in World War II.

Dedicated to Virgin Mary and St Adalbert, it was built as the see of the Prince-Bishops of Samland in the 14th century. Upon the establishment of the secular Duchy of Prussia, it became the Lutheran Albertina University church in 1544. The spire and roof of the cathedral burnt down after two RAF bombing raids in late August 1944; reconstruction started in 1992, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberg_Cathedral
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Yes it's known that Poland doesn't want "people of color" within the country, and the Polish police treat them badly, which became a known intra-EU issue in the recent years (eg. <https://archive.is/DMDX8>).

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How many "people of color" are living in Russia?
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