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  • Re: Marshall Kenneth Kirk 1955-2005

    From Me Brn@21:1/5 to gen-me...@rootsweb.com on Mon Mar 20 11:14:41 2023
    On Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 12:12:14 PM UTC-7, gen-me...@rootsweb.com wrote:
    Perhaps how he died is nobody's business and should remain private.

    Kay Allen
    On Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:20 AM, "gen-me...@rootsweb.com" <gen-me...@rootsweb.com> wrote:



    you knew marshal kirk. And at the time didnt know how he died. Clearly by now, people know. I dont know him, nor you, but I found him on wikipedia, and the cause of death is listed as unknown, so you would be the best person to ask, so the page could
    be complete. How did he die?
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    oh please.. when popular people die, the cause of death is asked. we ALL will die. whats private about that? here's the thing, you guys are coming off more like a cover up. thats the problem. and youre hiding behind the idea of privacy. the man was
    famous. and YES famous people like privacy. Death, which is common to 100% of us, is not private. even suicides. people do it. its not a big thing. But its human interest. Dont you think that he HIMSELF has asked how someone died, that he knew of? Or
    even a celebrity? we ALL have asked that, or look to read the story of a celebrity who has died. Your running in to somehow "protect" this guy seems like cover up behavior. Not common human behavior. YOU ALSO have a hyper aggressive admin here thats
    gonna do the same thing. someone merely SPECULATED that he could have been murdered and you people are being told to quickly shut up on that possibility? that ALSO sounds like a man covering someone.

    how do you people know that the man wasnt killed and these people KNOW it if youre being told to shut up? and I dont wanna hear the term "conspiracy theory" we are human. we think. we ask questions and we are NOT required to follow "after the ball". if
    anyone knew that, it was mark.

    he did know however that vast groups can be convinced of something. He also clearly knew that opposition would have to be made to shut up. AND GUESS WHAT people? you guys are doing it to mark AND yourselves! how the man died MATTERS, if you feel his
    life mattered. if its suicide, well ok then, so be it. Many great men have died from that. Celebrities. But COVERING UP the conversation sounds like murder. Im sorry but who does that but someone with a reason?

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  • From Me Brn@21:1/5 to johnba...@gmail.com on Mon Mar 20 11:19:51 2023
    On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:11:11 AM UTC-7, johnba...@gmail.com wrote:
    I was introduced to Marshall in about 1989 by a mutual friend. A fellow Dudley descendant, he shared his research with me. I wish he'd survived into the age of DNA tests; I expect he'd have been a tireless advocate of exhuming John, 3rd Baron Dudley
    from St. Margaret's, Westminster, to confirm his (painstakingly supported but still speculative) theory that Roger Dudley (Governor Thomas's father) was the Baron's grandson.

    It's speculation of a different kind but of almost equally certainty of proof that Marshall was murdered. A conspiracy of right wing religious zealots, striking a blow, as they surely saw it, against "organized sodomy", sent a volunteer to seduce and
    kill our friend. 'After the Ball' was incredibly important to the success of the gay rights movement and his high-profile involvement in the project painted a big, pink target on his back.

    He wouldn't be the first gay man killed by a trick or the first one assasinated for his beliefs, his activism or for merely being. He may be one of the only ones done in by a combination of the two.
    these people have threatened you that you cant even speak your personal VIEW on his death! thats a cover up mentality. People die early. sicknesses.. or suicides, accidents or murder. ThATS the only way. but we ALL know someone that died of one of
    those. its not that huge of a deal. WE ALL die. celebrities die. we as humans ask WHY. if we dont ask WHY , thats how a jeffery daumer can move to victim 2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8.

    we ask WHY. thats why we have a coroner's office for when people die early.

    thats why the mob has been part of swaying the coroner's reports over american history. these are not "conspiracy theory" and even if it was.. man, who cares... can we not speak, without some guy over us demanding that we shut up?

    what kind of group is that? for goodness sake, we are talking about a writer.. a psych person, the man LIVED with the idea of open thought, and guess what happens? everyone is told to shut up about their own thoughts?

    I guess we are allowed to THINK on our own but not in this group, with a bunch of Karens telling us what we are allowed to think. SMH!!!

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 10:04:35 2023
    Well his obituary mentions that he had a wife Elizabeth who predeceased him.

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Tue Mar 21 10:38:00 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    Well his obituary mentions that he had a wife Elizabeth who predeceased him.

    Don't feed the troll.

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  • From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to taf on Tue Mar 21 17:57:01 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 1:38:02 PM UTC-4, taf wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    Well his obituary mentions that he had a wife Elizabeth who predeceased him.
    Don't feed the troll.

    This is unfortunately the world we live in today... someone manufactures something solely designed for hateful purposes. No place is safe from them anymore...

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