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That's all it is. Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

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On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you like
to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science? The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy based
on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause of
any such thing. Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't even a
valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

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On 2024-06-09, manure sales <manure> wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you like
to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science? The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy based
on fear and speculation.

The Farmer's Almanac predicts the weather. Weather is not climate.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause of
any such thing. Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't even a
valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

Yet we can discern past weather from tree rings, soil deposits, ice
cores, and similar evidence.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you like
to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy based
on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause of
any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't even a
valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida. In the 1970s, this area had 60 days
of 90 degree or above temperatures. In the 2010s, we get 120 days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that? Will be 95 today.

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Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the
cause of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself
wasn't even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60
days of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120
days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats
flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will
ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2024-06-09, manure sales <manure> wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you like
to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science? The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy based
on fear and speculation.

The Farmer's Almanac predicts the weather. Weather is not climate.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause of
any such thing. Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't even a
valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

Yet we can discern past weather from tree rings, soil deposits, ice
cores, and similar evidence.

"Martian South Polar Pits in Layer of Frozen Carbon Dioxide

One of the most profound benefits of being able to continue
photographing Mars in the Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) Extended Mission
is the opportunity to go back and re-image a site that was seen in the
previous martian year. New MGS Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) images have
provided a startling observation: The residual martian south polar cap
is changing. The fact that it is changing suggests that Mars may have
major, global climate changes that are occurring on the same time
scales as Earth's most recent climate shifts, including the last Ice Age."


"https://mars.nasa.gov/gallery/polaricecaps/frozen_carbon_dioxide.html"

So is your gas-guzzlin' SUV causing climate change on Mars too?

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

The Farmer's Almanac predicts the weather. Weather is not climate.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2021-03-24/weve-known-for-years-global-warming-could-lead-to-a-new-ice-age-why-is-no-one-doing-anything

Call it a cascade of calamitous events.

According to scientists, a “cold blob” of water has formed south of Greenland. The blob’s origins can be traced to rapidly melting glaciers, which in turn is the consequence of global warming. The blob could
impede the flow of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north. And
if that happens, the temperature in Europe may drop steeply, hurricanes
may become more intense, and sea levels on the East Coast of the United
States may rise even more rapidly than they are already.

“We’re all wishing it’s not true,” Peter de Menocal, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, told The New York Timesearlier
this month. “Because if that happens, it’s just a monstrous change.”

A monstrous change indeed — and one that we’ve known about for decades.
The possibility that climate change could flip and, in just a matter of
years, plunge part of the world into a new ice age is something that has occasionally made its way into the media. Yet the world has done very
little about it.

http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that, "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada, Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.

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Skid Marks wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2024-06-09, manure sales <manure> wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you like >>>> to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy based
on fear and speculation.

The Farmer's Almanac predicts the weather.  Weather is not climate.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause of
any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't even a
valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

Yet we can discern past weather from tree rings, soil deposits, ice
cores, and similar evidence.

"Martian South Polar Pits in Layer of Frozen Carbon Dioxide

One of the most profound benefits of being able to continue
photographing Mars in the Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) Extended Mission is
the opportunity to go back and re-image a site that was seen in the
previous martian year. New MGS Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) images have
provided a startling observation: The residual martian south polar cap
is changing. The fact that it is changing suggests that Mars may have
major, global climate changes that are occurring on the same time scales
as Earth's most recent climate shifts, including the last Ice Age."

"https://mars.nasa.gov/gallery/polaricecaps/frozen_carbon_dioxide.html"

So is your gas-guzzlin' SUV causing climate change on Mars too?

https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2021-03-24/weve-known-for-years-global-warming-could-lead-to-a-new-ice-age-why-is-no-one-doing-anything

Call it a cascade of calamitous events.

According to scientists, a “cold blob” of water has formed south of Greenland. The blob’s origins can be traced to rapidly melting glaciers, which in turn is the consequence of global warming. The blob could
impede the flow of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north. And
if that happens, the temperature in Europe may drop steeply, hurricanes
may become more intense, and sea levels on the East Coast of the United
States may rise even more rapidly than they are already.

“We’re all wishing it’s not true,” Peter de Menocal, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, told The New York Timesearlier
this month. “Because if that happens, it’s just a monstrous change.”

A monstrous change indeed — and one that we’ve known about for decades.
The possibility that climate change could flip and, in just a matter of
years, plunge part of the world into a new ice age is something that has occasionally made its way into the media. Yet the world has done very
little about it.

http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that, "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada, Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.

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Ed P wrote:

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60 days
of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120 days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2021-03-24/weve-known-for-years-global-warming-could-lead-to-a-new-ice-age-why-is-no-one-doing-anything

Call it a cascade of calamitous events.

According to scientists, a “cold blob” of water has formed south of Greenland. The blob’s origins can be traced to rapidly melting glaciers, which in turn is the consequence of global warming. The blob could
impede the flow of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north. And
if that happens, the temperature in Europe may drop steeply, hurricanes
may become more intense, and sea levels on the East Coast of the United
States may rise even more rapidly than they are already.

“We’re all wishing it’s not true,” Peter de Menocal, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, told The New York Timesearlier
this month. “Because if that happens, it’s just a monstrous change.”

A monstrous change indeed — and one that we’ve known about for decades.
The possibility that climate change could flip and, in just a matter of
years, plunge part of the world into a new ice age is something that has occasionally made its way into the media. Yet the world has done very
little about it.

http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that, "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada, Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Yet we can discern past weather from tree rings, soil deposits, ice
cores, and similar evidence.

--

It's on, we're now in the early stages of a Heinrich Event leading up to
full glaciation shortly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-1q5cW_V3M

TRIPLE CATASTROPHE - 6000-Year Cycle Happening Now

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adh8369
Heinrich event ice discharge and the fate of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation

YUXIN ZHOU HTTPS://ORCID.ORG/0000-0002-3523-8524 AND JERRY F. MCMANUS HTTPS://ORCID.ORG/0000-0002-7365-1600Authors Info & Affiliations
SCIENCE
30 May 2024
Vol 384, Issue 6699
pp. 983-986
DOI: 10.1126/science.adh8369

Editor’s summary
Will ice mass loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet caused by climate
warming disrupt large-scale ocean circulation? Zhou et al. reconstructed iceberg production rates during the massive calving episodes of the last glacial period, called Heinrich events, when icebergs did affect ocean circulation. The authors found that present-day Greenland Ice Sheet
calving rates are as high as during some of those events.

https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/could-the-day-after-tomorrow-come-true/

A German scientist has echoed the warnings of the film The Day After
Tomorrow, finding that a major oceanic circulation system is becoming
more unstable – with concerning implications for the climate.

A study published in Nature Climate Change observes that the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) – a massive ocean current
system that circulates through the Atlantic – may have been losing
stability over the past century, due to the influx of melted freshwater
into the ocean.

This is concerning because the AMOC is responsible for the Gulf Stream,
a swift current that brings warm water masses from tropical regions to
the northern hemisphere. Because it redistributes heat, this circulation
system is not only responsible for creating mild temperatures across
Europe but also influencing weather systems across the world.

“The Atlantic Meridional Overturning really is one of our planet’s key circulation systems,” says Niklas Boers, the study’s author from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, Free University Berlin
and Exeter University.

If it collapses, it could have impacts such as significantly cooling
Europe and affecting tropical monsoon systems.

“We already know from some computer simulations and from data from
Earth’s past, so-called paleoclimate proxy records, that the AMOC can
exhibit – in addition to the currently attained strong mode – an alternative, substantially weaker mode of operation,” Boers says.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.14877

Machine-learning prediction of tipping and collapse of the Atlantic
Meridional Overturning Circulation
Shirin Panahi, Ling-Wei Kong, Mohammadamin Moradi, Zheng-Meng Zhai,
Bryan Glaz, Mulugeta Haile, Ying-Cheng Lai
Recent research on the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation
(AMOC) raised concern about its potential collapse through a tipping
point due to the climate-change caused increase in the freshwater input
into the North Atlantic. The predicted time window of collapse is
centered about the middle of the century and the earliest possible start
is approximately two years from now. More generally, anticipating a
tipping point at which the system transitions from one stable steady
state to another is relevant to a broad range of fields. We develop a machine-learning approach to predicting tipping in noisy dynamical
systems with a time-varying parameter and test it on a number of systems including the AMOC, ecological networks, an electrical power system, and
a climate model. For the AMOC, our prediction based on simulated
fingerprint data and real data of the sea surface temperature places the
time window of a potential collapse between the years 2040 and 2065.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2021-03-24/weve-known-for-years-global-warming-could-lead-to-a-new-ice-age-why-is-no-one-doing-anything

Call it a cascade of calamitous events.

According to scientists, a “cold blob” of water has formed south of Greenland. The blob’s origins can be traced to rapidly melting glaciers, which in turn is the consequence of global warming. The blob could
impede the flow of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north. And
if that happens, the temperature in Europe may drop steeply, hurricanes
may become more intense, and sea levels on the East Coast of the United
States may rise even more rapidly than they are already.

“We’re all wishing it’s not true,” Peter de Menocal, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, told The New York Timesearlier
this month. “Because if that happens, it’s just a monstrous change.”

A monstrous change indeed — and one that we’ve known about for decades.
The possibility that climate change could flip and, in just a matter of
years, plunge part of the world into a new ice age is something that has occasionally made its way into the media. Yet the world has done very
little about it.

http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that, "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada, Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.

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On 6/9/2024 10:54 AM, Skid Marks wrote:

Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy
based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause
of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't
even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60 days
of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120 days of
90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

They should. Give it a few years as oil becomes more scare and very
high priced. Oil is a finite material.

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On 6/9/2024 10:02 AM, Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy
based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause
of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't
even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60 days
of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120 days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

So the climate is changing as it always has throughout history. Does
man have any impact today? Probably, but how much, as mother nature is
mainly responsible.

Those that want big government create a state of fear to increase
acceptance of government control.

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Ed P wrote:

Oil is a finite material.

Oh no it's not!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/is-fossil-fuel-actually-produced-renewably-inside-the-earth-some-scientists-theorize-abiotic-origins-of-oil-4882472

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/215/1/012103/pdf

Synthesis of hydrocarbons under upper mantle
conditions: Evidence for the theory of abiotic deep
petroleum origin

Our experimental
results demonstrate that abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons under mantle conditions is a real
chemical process. Different paths of hydrocarbon synthesis under mantle conditions are
discussed. Obtained experimental results place the theory of the abiotic
deep petroleum origin
in the mainstream of modern experimental physics and physical chemistry

4. Conclusion
The following general conclusions could be made on the basis of the experimental results discussed
above:
• the abiotic generation of hydrocarbons in the mantle is a real physicochemical process. The
«methane» path of hydrocarbons synthesis under mantle conditions has
been proved
experimentally,
• our suggestion that the fact of hydrocarbon synthesis at thermobaric conditions of the
upper mantle does not depend on the type of carbon donor was confirmed.
The general
path of the reaction could be described as follows:donor of carbon +
donor of hydrogen +
deoxidizer → hydrocarbons,
• cooling rate of the fluid synthesized at high pressure makes essential impact on its final
composition. Decreasing of cooling rate leads to higher hydrocarbon
yield and appearance
of heavier hydrocarbons.

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On 6/9/2024 2:37 PM, Loran wrote:

Ed P wrote:

Oil is a finite material.

Oh no it's not!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/is-fossil-fuel-actually-produced-renewably-inside-the-earth-some-scientists-theorize-abiotic-origins-of-oil-4882472

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/215/1/012103/pdf

Synthesis of hydrocarbons under upper mantle
conditions: Evidence for the theory of abiotic deep
petroleum origin

 Our experimental
results demonstrate that abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons under mantle conditions is a real
chemical process. Different paths of hydrocarbon synthesis under mantle conditions are
discussed. Obtained experimental results place the theory of the abiotic
deep petroleum origin
in the mainstream of modern experimental physics and physical chemistry

4. Conclusion
The following general conclusions could be made on the basis of the experimental results discussed
above:
• the abiotic generation of hydrocarbons in the mantle is a real physicochemical process. The
«methane» path of hydrocarbons synthesis under mantle conditions has
been proved
experimentally,
• our suggestion that the fact of hydrocarbon synthesis at thermobaric conditions of the
upper mantle does not depend on the type of carbon donor was confirmed.
The general
path of the reaction could be described as follows:donor of carbon +
donor of hydrogen +
deoxidizer → hydrocarbons,
• cooling rate of the fluid synthesized at high pressure makes essential impact on its final
composition. Decreasing of cooling rate leads to higher hydrocarbon
yield and appearance
of heavier hydrocarbons.

Google sez: "Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more
liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on
Earth" Doubt they are from dead plants and animals.

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Frank wrote:

On 6/9/2024 2:37 PM, Loran wrote:

Ed P wrote:

Oil is a finite material.

Oh no it's not!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/is-fossil-fuel-actually-produced-renewably-inside-the-earth-some-scientists-theorize-abiotic-origins-of-oil-4882472


https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/215/1/012103/pdf

Synthesis of hydrocarbons under upper mantle
conditions: Evidence for the theory of abiotic deep
petroleum origin

  Our experimental
results demonstrate that abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons under
mantle conditions is a real
chemical process. Different paths of hydrocarbon synthesis under
mantle conditions are
discussed. Obtained experimental results place the theory of the
abiotic deep petroleum origin
in the mainstream of modern experimental physics and physical chemistry

4. Conclusion
The following general conclusions could be made on the basis of the
experimental results discussed
above:
• the abiotic generation of hydrocarbons in the mantle is a real
physicochemical process. The
«methane» path of hydrocarbons synthesis under mantle conditions has
been proved
experimentally,
• our suggestion that the fact of hydrocarbon synthesis at thermobaric
conditions of the
upper mantle does not depend on the type of carbon donor was
confirmed. The general
path of the reaction could be described as follows:donor of carbon +
donor of hydrogen +
deoxidizer → hydrocarbons,
• cooling rate of the fluid synthesized at high pressure makes
essential impact on its final
composition. Decreasing of cooling rate leads to higher hydrocarbon
yield and appearance
of heavier hydrocarbons.

Google sez: "Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more
liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth"  Doubt they are from dead plants and animals.

+1

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On 6/9/2024 1:48 PM, Frank wrote:

On 6/9/2024 10:02 AM, Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate than
the highly questionable model data being used to formulate policy
based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause
of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't
even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60 days
of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120 days of
90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

So the climate is changing as it always has throughout history.  Does
man have any impact today?  Probably, but how much, as mother nature is mainly responsible.

Those that want big government create a state of fear to increase
acceptance of government control.

Burning 100 million tons of fossil fuel every day for the past century
has some effect.

You and I won't be affected, but our grandchildren will when the oil
start drying up. Why not do some common sense planning now to make it
last longer?

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Ed P wrote:

Burning 100 million tons of fossil fuel every day for the past century
has some effect.

None ekshually:


http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that, "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada, Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.

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On 09 Jun 2024, Skid Marks <skid.marks@socialist.media> posted some news:6665c221$2$3747319$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of
left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the
cause of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself
wasn't even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60
days of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120
days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats
flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will
ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

Jets do put out a lot of BTUs.

There is BTU data for commerical jets available, but very little for the military. Military consumption is much greater than commercial.

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On 09 Jun 2024, Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted some news:v44p74$3lsct$1@dont-email.me:

On 6/9/2024 10:54 AM, Skid Marks wrote:

Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance
of left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the
cause of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself
wasn't even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60
days of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120
days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats
flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will
ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

They should. Give it a few years as oil becomes more scare and very
high priced. Oil is a finite material.

Coal was an enabler for human development in terms of transportation,
heat, manufacturing, new energy sources etc. It's no longer a primary
source, but it has been confirmed to be used by cave men and the Romans.
Use has been declining for cleaner solutions.

Petroleum took coal's place among other energy solutions. None are
perfect and have waste / recycling problems when exhausted.

Solar is good but has manufacturing, capacity and storage issues. One
major volcanic episode or astroid strike could impact solar power for
years.

There is no one size fits all solution for obvious reasons.

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On 6/9/2024 7:19 PM, P. Coonan wrote:

On 09 Jun 2024, Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted some news:v44p74$3lsct$1@dont-email.me:

On 6/9/2024 10:54 AM, Skid Marks wrote:

Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance
of left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the
cause of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself
wasn't even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60
days of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120
days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats
flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will
ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

They should. Give it a few years as oil becomes more scare and very
high priced. Oil is a finite material.

Coal was an enabler for human development in terms of transportation,
heat, manufacturing, new energy sources etc. It's no longer a primary source, but it has been confirmed to be used by cave men and the Romans.
Use has been declining for cleaner solutions.

Petroleum took coal's place among other energy solutions. None are
perfect and have waste / recycling problems when exhausted.

Solar is good but has manufacturing, capacity and storage issues. One
major volcanic episode or astroid strike could impact solar power for
years.

There is no one size fits all solution for obvious reasons.

True, but that does no mean we should do nothing.

Just watched 60 Minutes tonight. Wyoming, the largest coal supplier, it putting up the largest wind farm.

Technology is advancing and we should be using it to reduce pollution
and secure our future.

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On 6/9/2024 6:18 PM, P. Coonan wrote:

On 09 Jun 2024, Skid Marks <skid.marks@socialist.media> posted some news:6665c221$2$3747319$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of >>>>>> left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the
cause of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself
wasn't even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60
days of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120
days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats
flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will
ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

Jets do put out a lot of BTUs.

There is BTU data for commerical jets available, but very little for the military. Military consumption is much greater than commercial.

I would like to see comparable data on that. There are thousands of
Civilian and commercial flights 24 hours a day. I watch a few F16's take
to the air every day. From that same Airstrip I see hundreds of takeoffs
of Commercial, Private and Business air.

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On 6/9/2024 8:28 PM, Leper wrote:

On 6/9/2024 6:18 PM, P. Coonan wrote:

On 09 Jun 2024, Skid Marks <skid.marks@socialist.media> posted some
news:6665c221$2$3747319$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

Ed P wrote:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of >>>>>>> left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the
cause of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself
wasn't even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida.  In the 1970s, this area had 60
days of 90 degree or above temperatures.  In the 2010s, we get 120
days of 90 degrees or more.

Why is that?  Will be 95 today.

Maybe it's caused by the money-grubbin' globalist elite Democrats
flying around in their gas-guzzlin' Gulfstreams?

Do you think the Democrat's war on internal combustion engines will
ever morph into a war on gas-guzzlin' private jets?

Jets do put out a lot of BTUs.

There is BTU data for commerical jets available, but very little for the
military.  Military consumption is much greater than commercial.

I would like to see comparable data on that. There are thousands of
Civilian and commercial flights 24 hours a day. I watch a few F16's take
to the air every day. From that same Airstrip I see hundreds of takeoffs
of Commercial, Private and Business air.

There was a thread on this some time back "Re: Oil is winning its war on
us", one poster provided some interesting info.

https://groups.google.com/g/talk.politics.guns/c/5B3DOrNI5i4/m/zUvqIR-AAgAJ

https://groups.google.com/g/talk.politics.guns/c/5B3DOrNI5i4/m/xrQzy9jAAgAJ

I'll contribute the dated links below for some general percentages and
charts.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/Pentagon%20Fuel%20Use%2C%20Climate%20Change%20and%20the%20Costs%20of%20War%20Revised%20November%202019%20Crawford.pdf

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46556

Between those dates and now, the US military has embarked on fuel
changes because of toxic liabilities and costs.

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Bob F wrote:

Ignoring the fact that humans have dumped huge amounts of greenhouse
gases, causing the planet to warm more rapidly than ever in human history.

Complete and unmitigated BULLSHIT!

The planet had far higher (1,000-2,000ppm CO2) in the Jurassic - our
most green and fecund epoch.

You dolthead.

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P. Coonan wrote:

On 09 Jun 2024, Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted some news:v44clm$3huf6$1@dont-email.me:

On 6/9/2024 12:20 AM, manure sales wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:24 PM, Bob F wrote:

On 6/8/2024 1:15 AM, Rudy Hartung wrote:

That's all it is.  Using government grants to force acceptance of >>>>> left-wing stupidity that has no foundation.

You are clearly too stupid to comprehend the science. Too bad you
like to broadcast that to the world.

Specifically what science?  The Farmers Almanac is more accurate
than the highly questionable model data being used to formulate
policy based on fear and speculation.

The science is clear.

Hogwash.

The climate alarmists have no "science" proving mankind is the cause
of any such thing.  Accurate temperature measurement itself wasn't
even a valid metric until 300 years ago.

Try again.

I live near Tampa Bay in Florida. In the 1970s, this area had 60 days
of 90 degree or above temperatures. In the 2010s, we get 120 days of
90 degrees or more.

Why is that? Will be 95 today.

It's no mystery. Research why Florida gets hit with Saharan dust from
storms in Africa and what it does overall.

Even Death Valley has weather changes. Humans and their observations are mere specs of time in the grand scheme of weather.

Geologic time and epochs always trump human perceptions.


http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that, "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada, Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.

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cvn-rider wrote:

the US military has embarked on fuel changes because of toxic
liabilities and costs.

BULLSHITE!

That twat Granholm pushed the military into EV land, the fucking
ignorant cunt!

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/climate-change/energy-secretary-granholms-perverse-and-dangerous-view-of-military-electrification/

Secretary of Energy Granholm believes the U.S. military can rely on
electricity to fuel its tanks and other military fighting equipment in
about a decade. And, of course, that electricity must be supplied by politically correct resources—wind and solar power—that are weather-dependent. Granholm testified before the Senate in support of a
plan to fully establish an all-electric vehicle fleet in the U.S.
military by the 2030s. Granholm, a former Michigan Democratic governor, believes that reducing reliance on the “volatility of globally-traded
fossil fuels” is key. She claimed an EV military fleet would feel fewer effects from the economic repercussions of events like the Russian
invasion of Ukraine. However, she ignores the facts that a
fully-electric military would be “expensive,” costing billions or more,
and would be inherently “unreliable.” Reliability of equipment is a cornerstone of military readiness.

Just imagine a son or daughter in an EV military tank operated by
enormous and heavy batteries that go dead in the middle of battle with
no ability to be recharged quickly or at all, because the opposing side
is advancing with modern weapons fueled by petroleum as that country is
using the world’s resources to their most suited uses. Can you envision Americans building charging stations behind enemy lines to make these EV
tanks usable? As this example shows, the Biden administration all in one
basket (electrification) mentality should make Americans cringe at the
sheer absurdity of it. As the Biden administration does all it can to
eliminate American energy independence under the guise of “clean”
renewable energy, it is creating a national security risk. Further, the
Biden administration’s green energy goals rely in many ways upon
Communist China—a potential enemy—as that country dominates the battery supply chain and the supply chains of most critical minerals that
renewable energy and electric vehicles need. The “volatility of globally-traded minerals” that are dominated by Chinese investments and processing apparently has not occurred to Secretary Granholm.

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