• Why the true history of slavery, Jim Crow and white supremacy MUST be t

    From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 23 10:48:34 2024
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    A story in The Atlantic (proud member of The Gold Standards) about a cemetery church in Virginia with beautiful Tiffany stained glass windows that celebrate the sacrifice of southern traitors.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/06/why-confederate-lies-live-on/618711/

    The piece is called, "Why Confederate Lies Live On", with a subheading of

    For some Americans, history isn’t the story of what actually happened; it’s
    the story they want to believe.

    The story includes a section about a museum at a sugarcane plantation in Louisiana, the Whitney. The plantation also has a church, but that church has no
    stained glass windows. Instead, it has statues of angels holding the broken bodies of little black slave children who have died.

    Before the coronavirus pandemic, the Whitney was getting more than 100,000
    visitors a year. I asked Yvonne [tour guide] if they were different from the
    people who might typically visit a plantation. She looked down at the names
    of the dead inscribed in stone. “No one is coming to the Whitney thinking
    they’re only coming to admire the architecture,” she said.

    Did the white visitors, I asked her, experience the space differently from
    the Black visitors? She told me that the most common question she gets from
    white visitors is “I know slavery was bad … I don’t mean it this way, but …
    Were there any good slave owners?”

    She took a deep breath, her frustration visible. She had the look of someone
    professionally committed to patience but personally exhausted by the toll it
    takes.

    “I really give a short but nuanced answer to that,” she said. “Regardless of
    how these individuals fed the people that they owned, regardless of how they
    clothed them, regardless of if they never laid a hand on them, they were
    still sanctioning the system … You can’t say, ‘Hey, this person kidnapped
    your child, but they fed them well. They were a good person.’ How absurd does
    that sound?”

    But so many Americans simply don’t want to hear this, and if they do hear it,
    they refuse to accept it. After the 2015 massacre of Black churchgoers in
    Charleston led to renewed questions about the memory and iconography of the
    Confederacy, Greg Stewart, another member of the Sons of Confederate
    Veterans, told The New York Times, “You’re asking me to agree that my great-
    grandparent and great-great-grandparents were monsters.”


    And that's exactly the problem: the ancestors of those people today who tell and
    believe the lies about the southern traitors *were* monsters. There is no getting around it. The slave owners, the brutal overseers, the traitors who fought to preserve the cruel abomination of slavery were *monsters*. And they need to be called monsters.

    White supremacists who wish to suppress the teaching of the true history of slavery and Jim Crow and white supremacy often make the discredited argument that teach the truth makes white pupils "ashamed" of being white. First of all, any white pupils who say that have been *coached* to say it by their white supremacist parents. Secondly, the material can obviously been taught in a way that doesn't implicate today's white pupils in the monstrosity of what their monster ancestors did. Teachers need to say to white pupils, "Your ancestors may
    have been — *were* — monsters, but that doesn't make you one, and you don't have
    to be one." But the truth needs to be told, and all the southern traitor apologia needs to be called what it is: *lies*.

    People who don't want this material to be taught are Nazis. Deriding those who push for the teaching of the true history as "wokies" is the shorthand way of the Nazis saying they don't want the true history to be taught. It saves them from having to make a detailed case against teaching the true history. Instead, they can just dismiss it with a sneer. But of course they're wrong, and of course those who insist on teaching the true and complete history are not "wokies" or any other dismissive term, but in fact are the tribunes of truth.

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  • From J. Biden@21:1/5 to Mike Colangelo on Mon Dec 23 13:01:18 2024
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    On 12/23/2024 10:48 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    A story in The Atlantic

    A mean-spirited, miserly old man named Ebenezer Scrooge sits in his counting-house on a frigid Christmas Eve. His clerk, Bob Cratchit,
    shivers in the anteroom because Scrooge refuses to spend money on
    heating coals for a fire. Scrooge's nephew, Fred, pays his uncle a visit
    and invites him to his annual Christmas party. Two portly gentlemen also
    drop by and ask Scrooge for a contribution to their charity. Scrooge
    reacts to the holiday visitors with bitterness and venom, spitting out
    an angry "Bah! Humbug!" in response to his nephew's "Merry Christmas!"

    Later that evening, after returning to his dark, cold apartment, Scrooge receives a chilling visitation from the ghost of his dead partner, Jacob Marley. Marley, looking haggard and pallid, relates his unfortunate
    story. As punishment for his greedy and self-serving life his spirit has
    been condemned to wander the Earth weighted down with heavy chains.
    Marley hopes to save Scrooge from sharing the same fate. Marley informs
    Scrooge that three spirits will visit him during each of the next three
    nights. After the wraith disappears, Scrooge collapses into a deep sleep.

    He wakes moments before the arrival of the Ghost of Christmas Past, a
    strange childlike phantom with a brightly glowing head. The spirit
    escorts Scrooge on a journey into the past to previous Christmases from
    the curmudgeon's earlier years. Invisible to those he watches, Scrooge
    revisits his childhood school days, his apprenticeship with a jolly
    merchant named Fezziwig, and his engagement to Belle, a woman who leaves Scrooge because his lust for money eclipses his ability to love another. Scrooge, deeply moved, sheds tears of regret before the phantom returns
    him to his bed.

    The Ghost of Christmas Present, a majestic giant clad in a green fur
    robe, takes Scrooge through London to unveil Christmas as it will happen
    that year. Scrooge watches the large, bustling Cratchit family prepare a miniature feast in its meager home. He discovers Bob Cratchit's crippled
    son, Tiny Tim, a courageous boy whose kindness and humility warms
    Scrooge's heart. The specter then zips Scrooge to his nephew's to
    witness the Christmas party. Scrooge finds the jovial gathering
    delightful and pleads with the spirit to stay until the very end of the festivities. As the day passes, the spirit ages, becoming noticeably
    older. Toward the end of the day, he shows Scrooge two starved children, Ignorance and Want, living under his coat. He vanishes instantly as
    Scrooge notices a dark, hooded figure coming toward him.

    The Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come leads Scrooge through a sequence of mysterious scenes relating to an unnamed man's recent death. Scrooge
    sees businessmen discussing the dead man's riches, some vagabonds
    trading his personal effects for cash, and a poor couple expressing
    relief at the death of their unforgiving creditor. Scrooge, anxious to
    learn the lesson of his latest visitor, begs to know the name of the
    dead man. After pleading with the ghost, Scrooge finds himself in a
    churchyard, the spirit pointing to a grave. Scrooge looks at the
    headstone and is shocked to read his own name. He desperately implores
    the spirit to alter his fate, promising to renounce his insensitive,
    avaricious ways and to honor Christmas with all his heart. Whoosh! He
    suddenly finds himself safely tucked in his bed.

    Overwhelmed with joy by the chance to redeem himself and grateful that
    he has been returned to Christmas Day, Scrooge rushes out onto the
    street hoping to share his newfound Christmas spirit. He sends a giant Christmas turkey to the Cratchit house and attends Fred's party, to the
    stifled surprise of the other guests. As the years go by, he holds true
    to his promise and honors Christmas with all his heart: he treats Tiny
    Tim as if he were his own child, provides lavish gifts for the poor, and
    treats his fellow human beings with kindness, generosity, and warmth.

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  • From Red@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 23 20:47:56 2024
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    Southerners are so fucking stupid that there's no way in Hell they'd have
    built America without forcing slaves to do all their work for them.

    Laziest cocksuckers on earth.

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  • From Kill the Progs@21:1/5 to Mike Colangelo on Tue Dec 24 00:48:25 2024
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    Mike Colangelo wrote:
    A story in The Atlantic (proud member of The Gold Standards) about a cemetery church in Virginia with beautiful Tiffany stained glass windows that celebrate
    the sacrifice of southern traitors.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/06/why-confederate-lies-live-
    on/618711/

    The piece is called, "Why Confederate Lies Live On", with a subheading of

       For some Americans, history isn’t the story of what actually happened; it’s
       the story they want to believe.

    The story includes a section about a museum at a sugarcane plantation in Louisiana, the Whitney. The plantation also has a church, but that church has no
    stained glass windows. Instead, it has statues of angels holding the broken bodies of little black slave children who have died.

       Before the coronavirus pandemic, the Whitney was getting more than 100,000
       visitors a year. I asked Yvonne [tour guide] if they were different from the
       people who might typically visit a plantation. She looked down at the names
       of the dead inscribed in stone. “No one is coming to the Whitney thinking
       they’re only coming to admire the architecture,” she said.

       Did the white visitors, I asked her, experience the space differently from
       the Black visitors? She told me that the most common question she gets from
       white visitors is “I know slavery was bad … I don’t mean it this way, but …
       Were there any good slave owners?”

       She took a deep breath, her frustration visible. She had the look of someone
       professionally committed to patience but personally exhausted by the toll it
       takes.

       “I really give a short but nuanced answer to that,” she said. “Regardless of
       how these individuals fed the people that they owned, regardless of how they
       clothed them, regardless of if they never laid a hand on them, they were
       still sanctioning the system … You can’t say, ‘Hey, this person kidnapped
       your child, but they fed them well. They were a good person.’ How absurd does
       that sound?”

       But so many Americans simply don’t want to hear this, and if they do hear it,
       they refuse to accept it. After the 2015 massacre of Black churchgoers in
       Charleston led to renewed questions about the memory and iconography of the
       Confederacy, Greg Stewart, another member of the Sons of Confederate
       Veterans, told The New York Times, “You’re asking me to agree that my great-
       grandparent and great-great-grandparents were monsters.”


    And that's exactly the problem: the ancestors of those people today who tell and
    believe the lies about the southern traitors *were* monsters. There is no getting around it. The slave owners, the brutal overseers, the traitors who fought to preserve the cruel abomination of slavery were *monsters*. And they need to be called monsters.

    White supremacists who wish to suppress the teaching of the true history of slavery and Jim Crow and white supremacy often make the discredited argument that teach the truth makes white pupils "ashamed" of being white. First of all,
    any white pupils who say that have been *coached* to say it by their white supremacist parents. Secondly, the material can obviously been taught in a way
    that doesn't implicate today's white pupils in the monstrosity of what their monster ancestors did. Teachers need to say to white pupils, "Your ancestors may
    have been — *were* — monsters, but that doesn't make you one, and you don't have
    to be one." But the truth needs to be told, and all the southern traitor apologia needs to be called what it is: *lies*.

    People who don't want this material to be taught are Nazis. Deriding those who
    push for the teaching of the true history as "wokies" is the shorthand way of the Nazis saying they don't want the true history to be taught. It saves them from having to make a detailed case against teaching the true history. Instead,
    they can just dismiss it with a sneer. But of course they're wrong, and of course those who insist on teaching the true and complete history are not "wokies" or any other dismissive term, but in fact are the tribunes of truth.

    Slavery was justified. The alternative was death.

    Jim Crow was justified, just look at Detroit.

    We aren't going to allow you to force white children to denounce and demonize their race and ancestors.

    You should be killed this Christmas.

    Do you have any grandchildren? They should be purged too.

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  • From Hang-A-Coon@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 06:05:20 2024
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    XPost: sac.politics, alt.war.civil.usa

    (FOX 2) - The Oakland County Sheriff is still baffled at the Christmas Eve shooting that happened in Oxford on the evening of Dec. 24 when a man opened fire on civilians, killing one woman and injuring two others.

    There appears to be no connection between the shooter, the victim, or the location where it happened, sheriff Michael Bouchard told FOX 2 on Thursday. Instead, he called the random shooting an "incredibly violent rampage."

    It's unclear if drugs or alcohol were a factor, but Bouchard added he believed the shooting to be premeditated because the suspect discharged more than 30 rounds from an extended magazine.

    The suspect, who has yet to be identified because he has not been officially charged, was driving home from a Christmas party when he crashed. He brandished a 9 mm handgun at people before leaving.

    He crashed a second time on Ray Road between Lapeer and N. Oxford Roads. He then started shooting, hitting a mother and daughter in one car and a man in a separate car.

    The daughter suffered life-threatening injuries, but police hope she will pull through. Her mother died on Christmas Day. The man only suffered minor injuries.

    "The worst nightmare on so many levels," Bouchard said.

    He was taken into custody at the scene when sheriff's deputies from the Oxford sub station responded to the area, finding him in the middle of the street still wielding the gun.

    In addition to having been convicted of multiple weapons charges in the past decade, he also has a history of violence and fleeing police, Bouchard said.

    Prosecutors are expected to receive the formal charges from police later this week.

    https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/suspect-behind-triple-christmas-eve-shooting-oxford-illegally-possessed-gun-had-extended-mag

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