https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of
the country, federal officials said Friday.
The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development said federally
required tallies taken across the country in January found that more than 770,000 people were counted as homeless - a number that misses some people and does not include those staying with friends or family because they do
not have a place of their own.
On 12/27/2024 5:38 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as
devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of
the country, federal officials said Friday.
The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development said federally
required tallies taken across the country in January found that more than
770,000 people were counted as homeless - a number that misses some people >> and does not include those staying with friends or family because they do
not have a place of their own.
One reason is big money investors and buying houses and jacking up the
rents. Developers will build 200 houses and half will go to investment companies.
In Florida, quite a few modest priced trailer parks have been scooped up
and rents are increase 50% or they are kicked out so a hotel can be
built on the land.
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
On 12/27/24 17:37, pothead wrote:
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio
suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
With most folks no longer able to afford a house,
I sense the investment crowd may be in for a
drastic "market adjustment" when the find they
can't sell.
On 12/27/2024 5:38 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this
year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as
well as
devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several
parts of
the country, federal officials said Friday.
The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development said federally
required tallies taken across the country in January found that
more than
770,000 people were counted as homeless - a number that misses
some people
and does not include those staying with friends or family
because they do
not have a place of their own.
One reason is big money investors and buying houses and jacking up
the rents. Developers will build 200 houses and half will go to
investment companies.
In Florida, quite a few modest priced trailer parks have been
scooped up and rents are increase 50% or they are kicked out so a
hotel can be built on the land.
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and
retirees.
On 2024-12-28, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 12/27/2024 5:38 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as
devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of >>> the country, federal officials said Friday.
The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development said federally
required tallies taken across the country in January found that more than >>> 770,000 people were counted as homeless - a number that misses some people >>> and does not include those staying with friends or family because they do >>> not have a place of their own.
One reason is big money investors and buying houses and jacking up the
rents. Developers will build 200 houses and half will go to investment
companies.
In Florida, quite a few modest priced trailer parks have been scooped up
and rents are increase 50% or they are kicked out so a hotel can be
built on the land.
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
On 12/27/2024 9:51 PM, T wrote:
On 12/27/24 17:37, pothead wrote:
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio
suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
With most folks no longer able to afford a house,
I sense the investment crowd may be in for a
drastic "market adjustment" when the find they
can't sell.
Many don't want to sell. They want to rent them and bleed you monthly.
Many of the hurricane damaged houses are being snatched up by investment companies. Surely not as a public service.
Many years ago, there were a couple of people in every town that owned a
few houses and rented them, often as a sideline for a few bucks. They
are gone, replace by Wall Street crowd/
https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of
the country, federal officials said Friday.
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and
retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for
the slaves...yet here we are.
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
On 12/27/24 17:37, pothead wrote:
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
With most folks no longer able to afford a house,
I sense the investment crowd may be in for a
drastic "market adjustment" when the find they
can't sell.
On 12/27/24 20:02, Ed P wrote:
On 12/27/2024 9:51 PM, T wrote:
On 12/27/24 17:37, pothead wrote:
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio
suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
With most folks no longer able to afford a house,
I sense the investment crowd may be in for a
drastic "market adjustment" when the find they
can't sell.
Many don't want to sell. They want to rent them and bleed you monthly.
At 95% of the cost of a house payment too.
Many of the hurricane damaged houses are being snatched up by investment
companies. Surely not as a public service.
Many years ago, there were a couple of people in every town that owned a
few houses and rented them, often as a sideline for a few bucks. They
are gone, replace by Wall Street crowd/
Here is Northern Nevada, with all the refugees bearing money
fleeing the People's Republic of California, the housing
prices are going ridiculously high. And renters are getting
toss out on their noses in order to sell their houses.
On 2024-12-28, Racheal Madcow <racheal.madcow@unhinged.now> wrote:
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
Democrats have been saying that for decades and in the past, like minority voter issues as well,
the voters bought it hook line and sinker.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
On 12/28/24 10:11 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-28, Racheal Madcow <racheal.madcow@unhinged.now> wrote:
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
Democrats have been saying that for decades and in the past, like minority voter issues as well,
the voters bought it hook line and sinker.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
I suppose the govt could build low-rent "tenements' -
lots and lots of them - to undermine the shortage.
Alas life in such projects never had a good rep.
A law forbidding FOREIGN investment in 'housing' ?
They'd just use proxy agents .....
The "GI Bill suburbs" of the 40s/50s weren't as bad
as tenements. Individual houses. Kinda cookie-cutter
but OK. Pre-fab parts would be used now, snap 'em
together like Legos. Might get some bad neighbors
but you're not trapped in one building with them as
with tenements. Gigantic 'trailer parks' are also
a potential interim solution that avoids tenements.
Visit Florida ... there are whole cities of them.
In any case, SOMETHING needs to happen soon or we
are gonna get a whole unhoused CLASS - likely with
commie leanings - along with riots and such.
On 2024-12-29, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
On 12/28/24 10:11 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-28, Racheal Madcow <racheal.madcow@unhinged.now> wrote:
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees. >>>>But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
Democrats have been saying that for decades and in the past, like minority voter issues as well,
the voters bought it hook line and sinker.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
It won't.
The market has to adjust mostly by itself.
Being an engineer, finance always makes me laugh. For every financial expert who claims strategy A is the answer one can find another expert who claims strategy A is not the answer.
Drill baby drill is going to help.
I suppose the govt could build low-rent "tenements' -
lots and lots of them - to undermine the shortage.
Alas life in such projects never had a good rep.
Not a good idea.
When govt interferes with a capitalistic free market bad things usually happen.
It might get good short term but long term it could be a mess.
A law forbidding FOREIGN investment in 'housing' ?
They'd just use proxy agents .....
They already are.
I have a friend who appraises commercial real estate in NYC and that's exactly what
they are doing.
Shell companies owned by other shell companies who are owned by yet another shell company.
By the time the IRS and other officials catch up with the first shell companies the property has
already changed hands, in name only, 5 times.
The "GI Bill suburbs" of the 40s/50s weren't as bad
as tenements. Individual houses. Kinda cookie-cutter
but OK. Pre-fab parts would be used now, snap 'em
together like Legos. Might get some bad neighbors
but you're not trapped in one building with them as
with tenements. Gigantic 'trailer parks' are also
a potential interim solution that avoids tenements.
Visit Florida ... there are whole cities of them.
I live on Eastern Long Island NY and Levittown is the poster child for suburban housing after the war.
Those same houses that sold for about $8k are now worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars and many over a million dollars.
In any case, SOMETHING needs to happen soon or we
are gonna get a whole unhoused CLASS - likely with
commie leanings - along with riots and such.
I have predicted a civil war for years.
Drill baby drill is going to help.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep
and realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
On 12/28/24 8:18 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-29, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
On 12/28/24 10:11 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-28, Racheal Madcow <racheal.madcow@unhinged.now> wrote:
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and
retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for
the slaves...yet here we are.
Democrats have been saying that for decades and in the past, like
minority voter issues as well,
the voters bought it hook line and sinker.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and
realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
It won't.
The market has to adjust mostly by itself.
Being an engineer, finance always makes me laugh. For every financial
expert
who claims strategy A is the answer one can find another expert who
claims
strategy A is not the answer.
Drill baby drill is going to help.
I suppose the govt could build low-rent "tenements' -
lots and lots of them - to undermine the shortage.
Alas life in such projects never had a good rep.
Not a good idea.
When govt interferes with a capitalistic free market bad things
usually happen.
It might get good short term but long term it could be a mess.
A law forbidding FOREIGN investment in 'housing' ?
They'd just use proxy agents .....
They already are.
I have a friend who appraises commercial real estate in NYC and that's
exactly what
they are doing.
Shell companies owned by other shell companies who are owned by yet
another shell company.
By the time the IRS and other officials catch up with the first shell
companies the property has
already changed hands, in name only, 5 times.
The "GI Bill suburbs" of the 40s/50s weren't as bad
as tenements. Individual houses. Kinda cookie-cutter
but OK. Pre-fab parts would be used now, snap 'em
together like Legos. Might get some bad neighbors
but you're not trapped in one building with them as
with tenements. Gigantic 'trailer parks' are also
a potential interim solution that avoids tenements.
Visit Florida ... there are whole cities of them.
I live on Eastern Long Island NY and Levittown is the poster child for
suburban housing after the war.
Those same houses that sold for about $8k are now worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars and many over a million dollars.
In any case, SOMETHING needs to happen soon or we
are gonna get a whole unhoused CLASS - likely with
commie leanings - along with riots and such.
I have predicted a civil war for years.
Let's hope it never gets THAT bad - it'd trash pretty
much everything. Civil wars in 1st-world countries are
a no-no. Shit's just too 'interconnected'.
However I can imagine riots and some violence from
the new un-homed class - and commies WILL urge
them on and promise quick fixes. Luigi Mangione was
just the beginning. Frustrations are peaking now.
NOT sure 'the system/market' can respond fast enough.
This isn't just the USA - bring up some Australian
news sites .... property/rent gouging is about to
cause something very unpleasant there as well.
Alas, in general, attempts at govt 'fixes' almost
always do more damage than they address. We saw
that from the late 60s on in the USA and elsewhere.
But 'politics' and 'practical/sane' don't always
have much to do with each other .....
186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and
realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
It will be better now because you elected people who have shown a
lifetime of fair dealing with the poor, who have deep sympathy for those struggling to buy Groceries, whatever those are.
On 12/28/2024 7:51 PM, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
On 12/28/24 8:18 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-29, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
On 12/28/24 10:11 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-28, Racheal Madcow <racheal.madcow@unhinged.now> wrote:
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and
retirees.
But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for
the slaves...yet here we are.
Democrats have been saying that for decades and in the past, like
minority voter issues as well,
the voters bought it hook line and sinker.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and
realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
It won't.
The market has to adjust mostly by itself.
Being an engineer, finance always makes me laugh. For every financial
expert
who claims strategy A is the answer one can find another expert who
claims
strategy A is not the answer.
Drill baby drill is going to help.
I suppose the govt could build low-rent "tenements' -
lots and lots of them - to undermine the shortage.
Alas life in such projects never had a good rep.
Not a good idea.
When govt interferes with a capitalistic free market bad things
usually happen.
It might get good short term but long term it could be a mess.
A law forbidding FOREIGN investment in 'housing' ?
They'd just use proxy agents .....
They already are.
I have a friend who appraises commercial real estate in NYC and
that's exactly what
they are doing.
Shell companies owned by other shell companies who are owned by yet
another shell company.
By the time the IRS and other officials catch up with the first shell
companies the property has
already changed hands, in name only, 5 times.
The "GI Bill suburbs" of the 40s/50s weren't as bad
as tenements. Individual houses. Kinda cookie-cutter
but OK. Pre-fab parts would be used now, snap 'em
together like Legos. Might get some bad neighbors
but you're not trapped in one building with them as
with tenements. Gigantic 'trailer parks' are also
a potential interim solution that avoids tenements.
Visit Florida ... there are whole cities of them.
I live on Eastern Long Island NY and Levittown is the poster child for
suburban housing after the war.
Those same houses that sold for about $8k are now worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars and many over a million dollars.
In any case, SOMETHING needs to happen soon or we
are gonna get a whole unhoused CLASS - likely with
commie leanings - along with riots and such.
I have predicted a civil war for years.
Let's hope it never gets THAT bad - it'd trash pretty
much everything. Civil wars in 1st-world countries are
a no-no. Shit's just too 'interconnected'.
However I can imagine riots and some violence from
the new un-homed class - and commies WILL urge
them on and promise quick fixes. Luigi Mangione was
just the beginning. Frustrations are peaking now.
NOT sure 'the system/market' can respond fast enough.
This isn't just the USA - bring up some Australian
news sites .... property/rent gouging is about to
cause something very unpleasant there as well.
It's global. Look at Britain, France, Italy and the cowed wimps of Germany. The locals are sick and tired of leftists and woke, as we are.
Alas, in general, attempts at govt 'fixes' almost
always do more damage than they address. We saw
that from the late 60s on in the USA and elsewhere.
But 'politics' and 'practical/sane' don't always
have much to do with each other .....
Government tends to build overlapping duplicate tentacles to other parts
of government in order to ensure relevance and employment. It results
in inefficiency and incompetence.
If you want to fix government, all unions must be removed and banned
from government employment.
On 2024-12-28, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 12/27/24 17:37, pothead wrote:
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment portfolio suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
With most folks no longer able to afford a house,
I sense the investment crowd may be in for a
drastic "market adjustment" when the find they
can't sell.
It's a possibility.
On 12/28/2024 8:38 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and
realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
It will be better now because you elected people who have shown a
lifetime of fair dealing with the poor, who have deep sympathy for
those struggling to buy Groceries, whatever those are.
Nobody in this country has to struggle to get groceries, clothing,
housing, even money if they have the slightest motivation.
What we need are politicians who are not busy shipping American jobs out
of the country because they produce waste materials. We also need politicians who are not busy handing money to foreign interests.
Americans first.
However I can imagine riots and some violence from
the new un-homed class - and commies WILL urge
them on and promise quick fixes. Luigi Mangione was
just the beginning. Frustrations are peaking now.
On 12/28/24 9:54 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-28, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 12/27/24 17:37, pothead wrote:
This is true.
Take a look at virtually any large company investment
portfolio suggestions and
you will most definitely see real estate as one of the options.
With most folks no longer able to afford a house,
I sense the investment crowd may be in for a
drastic "market adjustment" when the find they
can't sell.
It's a possibility.
HAPPENED - not THAT long ago. Very
bad downstream impacts too.
But PEOPLE NEVER LEARN and let it all
happen AGAIN.
pothead wrote:
Drill baby drill is going to help.
You are going to force private companies to spend money to devalue
their product by glutting the market.
On 12/28/24 8:18 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-29, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
On 12/28/24 10:11 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-12-28, Racheal Madcow <racheal.madcow@unhinged.now> wrote:
Ed P wrote:
Life is getting tougher and tougher for the lower income and retirees. >>>>>But Biden & Harris said they were going to make things better for the slaves...yet here we are.
Democrats have been saying that for decades and in the past, like minority voter issues as well,
the voters bought it hook line and sinker.
Well in 2024, the voters finally woke up from that deep sleep and realized that the democrats
have been lying to them and their support moved elsewhere.
But I don't think it's gonna fix the home/rent price
issues. That'll require the market to collapse (did
before) or the kind of heavy-handed tampering with
the market Republicans are almost all against.
It won't.
The market has to adjust mostly by itself.
Being an engineer, finance always makes me laugh. For every financial expert >> who claims strategy A is the answer one can find another expert who claims >> strategy A is not the answer.
Drill baby drill is going to help.
I suppose the govt could build low-rent "tenements' -
lots and lots of them - to undermine the shortage.
Alas life in such projects never had a good rep.
Not a good idea.
When govt interferes with a capitalistic free market bad things usually happen.
It might get good short term but long term it could be a mess.
A law forbidding FOREIGN investment in 'housing' ?
They'd just use proxy agents .....
They already are.
I have a friend who appraises commercial real estate in NYC and that's exactly what
they are doing.
Shell companies owned by other shell companies who are owned by yet another shell company.
By the time the IRS and other officials catch up with the first shell companies the property has
already changed hands, in name only, 5 times.
The "GI Bill suburbs" of the 40s/50s weren't as bad
as tenements. Individual houses. Kinda cookie-cutter
but OK. Pre-fab parts would be used now, snap 'em
together like Legos. Might get some bad neighbors
but you're not trapped in one building with them as
with tenements. Gigantic 'trailer parks' are also
a potential interim solution that avoids tenements.
Visit Florida ... there are whole cities of them.
I live on Eastern Long Island NY and Levittown is the poster child for
suburban housing after the war.
Those same houses that sold for about $8k are now worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars and many over a million dollars.
In any case, SOMETHING needs to happen soon or we
are gonna get a whole unhoused CLASS - likely with
commie leanings - along with riots and such.
I have predicted a civil war for years.
Let's hope it never gets THAT bad - it'd trash pretty
much everything. Civil wars in 1st-world countries are
a no-no. Shit's just too 'interconnected'.
However I can imagine riots and some violence from
the new un-homed class - and commies WILL urge
them on and promise quick fixes. Luigi Mangione was
just the beginning. Frustrations are peaking now.
NOT sure 'the system/market' can respond fast enough.
This isn't just the USA - bring up some Australian
news sites .... property/rent gouging is about to
cause something very unpleasant there as well.
Alas, in general, attempts at govt 'fixes' almost
always do more damage than they address. We saw
that from the late 60s on in the USA and elsewhere.
But 'politics' and 'practical/sane' don't always
have much to do with each other .....
Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as
devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of
the country, federal officials said Friday.
There are thousands of vaxxine injured people who can no longer work. I suspect they are homeless now.
On 12/28/24 6:50 AM, Al Burt Boarla wrote:
Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
https://abc7.com/post/how-many-people-are-homeless-2024/15715340/
The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this
year, a
dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as
well as
devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in
several parts of
the country, federal officials said Friday.
There are thousands of vaxxine injured people who can no longer
work. I suspect they are homeless now.
Um ... I'm gonna say vax is generally GOOD.
SOME may have bad reactions. Some OTHERS have the
usual health issues and BLAME it on vax in order
to try and scam money.
As for "homeless" for ANY reasons ... this IS
becoming a large and real PROBLEM.
While it's usually best for the govt to stay
AWAY from trying to 'fix' things - we're looking
at a social CRISIS now - and not JUST in the USA.
A year from now, if all stays the same, I expect
HUGE flaming riots and worse over housing/rent
prices. Bankers and CEOs and landlords will get
it in the back. It's all gone just TOO far.
"Market forces" don't react FAST enough. This
is the Truth, this is how it's gonna go.
The LeftyComs will ENCOURAGE it all, hope to
gain supplicants.
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