• Re: CA Gov. Newsom is Banning Gas Cars, Gas Stoves, Gas Furnaces, Gas W

    From Trump was Right@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Tue Dec 31 05:06:57 2024
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    In <8fl6njpdafaughag0tlt6bdkbegnq5nvc2@4ax.com> John Smyth wrote:

    Aren't democrats supposed to be the party of democracy?
    They look more like fascists to me.
    Pray that this dictator never becomes President of the United States.

    'CA Gov. Newsom is Banning Gas Cars, Gas Stoves, Gas Furnaces, Gas Water Heaters Is California’s war on gas supposed to crush the state – because
    it will?'

    <https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-gov-newsom-is-banning-gas-cars-gas-stoves-gas-furnaces-gas-water-heaters/>

    'What has very clearly become an “us versus them” issue, an issue near
    and dear only to leftist politicians, is about to get really messy.

    They are coming for your gas-powered car, your gas stove, your gas water heater, your gas furnace, your gas dryer, your gas grille, your gas
    blower, your gas fireplace, and any other gas-powered appliance or
    vehicle you can think of.

    Who is “they” besides California Governor Gavin Newsom and the California Legislature imposing these policies on you?

    California is set to become the first state to ban natural gas heaters,
    water heaters, and furnaces by 2030, a policy of the California Air
    Resources Board, entirely made up of appointees by the governor, I
    reported in 2023 in The Tangled Government Web Behind the Push to Ban
    Gas Stoves, where we link Harvard Health Publishing, the Rocky Mountain Institute, MDPI International Journal of Environmental Research and
    Public Health, and U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH) National
    Library of Medicine. NIH is the largest source of funding for medical research in the world. The WHO is named in the studies, as are many
    Chinese studies.

    And they don’t care if it bankrupts you or causes you undue hardship. They don’t care if your public transit system is a hellhole on rails, when they take away your gas-powered car. They don’t care if you have to
    walk 5 miles to work. They don’t care. Just remember that they don’t
    care about you. They only care about their autocratic rules – and power.

    A California Globe reader sent me a powerful and poignant email today
    about the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to rid the
    region of gas heaters, asking if the members of the district have
    already replaced theirs :

    Your upcoming plans for electric water heaters and home heating units
    will hurt the poorest of California residents.

    Have you all already replaced all the heaters in your homes? Please
    share at your next meeting what was the total cost and how much your
    electric bills increased. I’m retired and on a fixed income and will need to know how much to save before I have to take cold showers and
    wear a sweatshirt in the house.

    Have you required your gardeners to use electric tools when they work on
    your landscape?

    Do you all drive only electric cars wherever you go? (Tho you might take
    the bus).

    Are your backyard grills all electric?

    Do your swimming pools use electric heaters?

    Or do you live by “do as I say, not as I do” ?

    Don Wagner, Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors and
    member of the Governing Board of the South Coast Air Quality Management District, wrote an op ed for the OC Register addressing this. Here is
    what he reports:

    SCAQMD intends to adopt two rules on all homeowners, multi-family
    residents, and businesses – more than 17 million people in all. The goal: eliminate natural gas appliances. Proposed Amended Rules 1111 and
    1121 require homeowners, landlords, and businesses to replace furnaces
    and water heaters with costly new “zero-emission” electrical units.

    He said these new rules “will seemingly do little to clean the air,” but
    will financially hurt many:

    If implemented, these rules would impose ruinous expenses on already stretched residents and businesses, potentially cause people to lose
    housing, and strain an already stretched electricity grid.

    We’re talking potentially tens of thousands of dollars per unit for every homeowner, landlord, and business forced to make these purchases.

    Provoing my point that these Air Quality District board members don’t care, Wagner says:

    You will be forced to comply. The old technology – the water heaters and
    furnaces you are using today – will be illegal to purchase or install.

    Only the wealthiest of Southern California residents can afford such extravagance. Don’t even think about buying replacement units in other states and importing them. You will not be allowed to get a permit to
    install non-complying appliances, nor can you sell a property containing unpermitted units. You will have to comply.

    Wagner says the new zero-emission water heaters and furnaces require a substantial increase in electricity usage, which we have heard before.
    But SCAQMD doesn’t even have a cost estimate yet to power these new electric appliances. But their orders will take place anyway. It’s another Nancy Pelosi moment: “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”

    Governor Gavin Newsom has already fallen quite short of his promise to
    build 3.5 million new homes in California while in office. He’s a victim
    of his own party’s rules and regulations, but won’t admit it. Because as
    Supervisor Wagner knows, the new all-electric rules run counter to
    building affordable homes. “They achieve minimal air quality improvements, are prohibitively expensive and ignore the region’s energy
    challenges,” Wagner adds.

    Housing prices in California have dramatically increased since Newsom
    took office in 2019. And for all of his supposed efforts to streamline
    new housing construction, it just isn’t happening.

    “Newsom promised in October 2017 amid his campaign for governor that he would help spur the construction and completion of 3.5 million new
    housing units by the start of 2025, according to a post the
    then-lieutenant governor made on Medium,” the Daily Caller reported.

    “The governor took office in January 2019, when the state had around 14,235,201 housing units, and after five years at the helm, the number
    of units has increased to 14,824,626 as of the beginning of 2024,
    totaling just 589,626, according to data from the state’s Department of
    Finance.”

    That’s only 117,925 new homes built every year in California, 2019 –
    2024, while Gavin Newsom has been governor.

    And Newsom has very publicly berated and sued cities that have not
    fulfilled his directives to build “affordable housing” – even though he
    can’t even meet his own home building goals. And that is about the cost
    to build, from multiple layers of permitting, to the state’s absurd and
    cumbersome regulations and requirements… like requiring all new electric
    appliances.

    Many or most of the orders, directives and policies by Gov. Newsom and legislative Democrats are detrimental to California residents. It’s clear the politicians aren’t asking the voting people what is important
    to them, and instead are fulfilling policy set by higher powers… by people who not only don’t care about you, but who seem bent on harming you, and all of the people of California.

    And it appears that Gavin Newsom, legislative Democrats, and his
    appointees are making this happen – whether it is the South Coast Air Quality Management District, the California Air Resources Board, the
    State Water Resources Control Board, the CalEPA, the California Coastal Commission, the United Nations or the World Health Organization… behind all of it

    Remember, California Democrats voted for this.

    California Democrats are stupid.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Trump was Right on Mon Dec 30 21:53:03 2024
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    Trump was Right wrote:
    Remember, California Democrats voted for this.

    California Democrats are stupid.

    Californians vote for this. Nearly everyone can vote and speak up.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Dec 31 06:09:20 2024
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    pothead wrote:
    On 2024-12-31, Trump was Right <lets@go.brandon> wrote:
    In <8fl6njpdafaughag0tlt6bdkbegnq5nvc2@4ax.com> John Smyth wrote:

    Aren't democrats supposed to be the party of democracy?
    They look more like fascists to me.
    Pray that this dictator never becomes President of the United States.

    'CA Gov. Newsom is Banning Gas Cars, Gas Stoves, Gas Furnaces, Gas Water >>> Heaters Is California’s war on gas supposed to crush the state – because
    it will?'

    <https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-gov-newsom-is-banning-gas-cars-gas-stoves-gas-furnaces-gas-water-heaters/>

    'What has very clearly become an “us versus them” issue, an issue near
    and dear only to leftist politicians, is about to get really messy.

    They are coming for your gas-powered car, your gas stove, your gas water >>> heater, your gas furnace, your gas dryer, your gas grille, your gas
    blower, your gas fireplace, and any other gas-powered appliance or
    vehicle you can think of.

    Who is “they” besides California Governor Gavin Newsom and the >>> California Legislature imposing these policies on you?
    alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns,misc.immigration.usa,
    California is set to become the first state to ban natural gas heaters,
    water heaters, and furnaces by 2030, a policy of the California Air
    Resources Board, entirely made up of appointees by the governor, I
    reported in 2023 in The Tangled Government Web Behind the Push to Ban
    Gas Stoves, where we link Harvard Health Publishing, the Rocky Mountain
    Institute, MDPI International Journal of Environmental Research and
    Public Health, and U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH) National
    Library of Medicine. NIH is the largest source of funding for medical
    research in the world. The WHO is named in the studies, as are many
    Chinese studies.

    And they don’t care if it bankrupts you or causes you undue hardship.
    They don’t care if your public transit system is a hellhole on rails,
    when they take away your gas-powered car. They don’t care if you have to
    walk 5 miles to work. They don’t care. Just remember that they don’t
    care about you. They only care about their autocratic rules – and power.

    A California Globe reader sent me a powerful and poignant email today
    about the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to rid the
    region of gas heaters, asking if the members of the district have
    already replaced theirs :

    Your upcoming plans for electric water heaters and home heating units
    will hurt the poorest of California residents.

    Have you all already replaced all the heaters in your homes? Please
    share at your next meeting what was the total cost and how much your
    electric bills increased. I’m retired and on a fixed income and will >>> need to know how much to save before I have to take cold showers and
    wear a sweatshirt in the house.

    Have you required your gardeners to use electric tools when they work on >>> your landscape?

    Do you all drive only electric cars wherever you go? (Tho you might take >>> the bus).

    Are your backyard grills all electric?

    Do your swimming pools use electric heaters?

    Or do you live by “do as I say, not as I do” ?

    Don Wagner, Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors and
    member of the Governing Board of the South Coast Air Quality Management
    District, wrote an op ed for the OC Register addressing this. Here is
    what he reports:

    SCAQMD intends to adopt two rules on all homeowners, multi-family
    residents, and businesses – more than 17 million people in all. The >>> goal: eliminate natural gas appliances. Proposed Amended Rules 1111 and
    1121 require homeowners, landlords, and businesses to replace furnaces
    and water heaters with costly new “zero-emission” electrical units.

    He said these new rules “will seemingly do little to clean the air,” but
    will financially hurt many:

    If implemented, these rules would impose ruinous expenses on already
    stretched residents and businesses, potentially cause people to lose
    housing, and strain an already stretched electricity grid.

    We’re talking potentially tens of thousands of dollars per unit for >>> every homeowner, landlord, and business forced to make these purchases.

    Provoing my point that these Air Quality District board members don’t
    care, Wagner says:

    You will be forced to comply. The old technology – the water heaters and
    furnaces you are using today – will be illegal to purchase or install.

    Only the wealthiest of Southern California residents can afford such
    extravagance. Don’t even think about buying replacement units in other
    states and importing them. You will not be allowed to get a permit to
    install non-complying appliances, nor can you sell a property containing >>> unpermitted units. You will have to comply.

    Wagner says the new zero-emission water heaters and furnaces require a
    substantial increase in electricity usage, which we have heard before.
    But SCAQMD doesn’t even have a cost estimate yet to power these new >>> electric appliances. But their orders will take place anyway. It’s >>> another Nancy Pelosi moment: “We have to pass the bill so that you can
    find out what is in it.”

    Governor Gavin Newsom has already fallen quite short of his promise to
    build 3.5 million new homes in California while in office. He’s a victim
    of his own party’s rules and regulations, but won’t admit it. Because as
    Supervisor Wagner knows, the new all-electric rules run counter to
    building affordable homes. “They achieve minimal air quality
    improvements, are prohibitively expensive and ignore the region’s energy
    challenges,” Wagner adds.

    Housing prices in California have dramatically increased since Newsom
    took office in 2019. And for all of his supposed efforts to streamline
    new housing construction, it just isn’t happening.

    “Newsom promised in October 2017 amid his campaign for governor that he
    would help spur the construction and completion of 3.5 million new
    housing units by the start of 2025, according to a post the
    then-lieutenant governor made on Medium,” the Daily Caller reported. >>>
    “The governor took office in January 2019, when the state had around >>> 14,235,201 housing units, and after five years at the helm, the number
    of units has increased to 14,824,626 as of the beginning of 2024,
    totaling just 589,626, according to data from the state’s Department of
    Finance.”

    That’s only 117,925 new homes built every year in California, 2019 –
    2024, while Gavin Newsom has been governor.

    And Newsom has very publicly berated and sued cities that have not
    fulfilled his directives to build “affordable housing” – even though he
    can’t even meet his own home building goals. And that is about the cost
    to build, from multiple layers of permitting, to the state’s absurd and
    cumbersome regulations and requirements… like requiring all new electric
    appliances.

    Many or most of the orders, directives and policies by Gov. Newsom and
    legislative Democrats are detrimental to California residents. It’s >>> clear the politicians aren’t asking the voting people what is important
    to them, and instead are fulfilling policy set by higher powers… by >>> people who not only don’t care about you, but who seem bent on harming
    you, and all of the people of California.
    i
    And it appears that Gavin Newsom, legislative Democrats, and his
    appointees are making this happen – whether it is the South Coast Air
    Quality Management District, the California Air Resources Board, the
    State Water Resources Control Board, the CalEPA, the California Coastal
    Commission, the United Nations or the World Health Organization… behind
    all of it

    Remember, California Democrats voted for this.

    California Democrats are stupid.

    Same in NYS with governor Kathy Hochul.
    She's Newsom in heels.


    Reagan started this. Blame him.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Trump was Right on Tue Dec 31 13:15:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats.governors
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 2024-12-31, Trump was Right <lets@go.brandon> wrote:
    In <8fl6njpdafaughag0tlt6bdkbegnq5nvc2@4ax.com> John Smyth wrote:

    Aren't democrats supposed to be the party of democracy?
    They look more like fascists to me.
    Pray that this dictator never becomes President of the United States.

    'CA Gov. Newsom is Banning Gas Cars, Gas Stoves, Gas Furnaces, Gas Water
    Heaters Is California’s war on gas supposed to crush the state – because
    it will?'

    <https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-gov-newsom-is-banning-gas-cars-gas-stoves-gas-furnaces-gas-water-heaters/>

    'What has very clearly become an “us versus them” issue, an issue near
    and dear only to leftist politicians, is about to get really messy.

    They are coming for your gas-powered car, your gas stove, your gas water
    heater, your gas furnace, your gas dryer, your gas grille, your gas
    blower, your gas fireplace, and any other gas-powered appliance or
    vehicle you can think of.

    Who is “they” besides California Governor Gavin Newsom and the >> California Legislature imposing these policies on you? >>alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns,misc.immigration.usa,
    California is set to become the first state to ban natural gas heaters,
    water heaters, and furnaces by 2030, a policy of the California Air
    Resources Board, entirely made up of appointees by the governor, I
    reported in 2023 in The Tangled Government Web Behind the Push to Ban
    Gas Stoves, where we link Harvard Health Publishing, the Rocky Mountain
    Institute, MDPI International Journal of Environmental Research and
    Public Health, and U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH) National
    Library of Medicine. NIH is the largest source of funding for medical
    research in the world. The WHO is named in the studies, as are many
    Chinese studies.

    And they don’t care if it bankrupts you or causes you undue hardship. >> They don’t care if your public transit system is a hellhole on rails, >> when they take away your gas-powered car. They don’t care if you have to
    walk 5 miles to work. They don’t care. Just remember that they don’t
    care about you. They only care about their autocratic rules – and power.

    A California Globe reader sent me a powerful and poignant email today
    about the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to rid the
    region of gas heaters, asking if the members of the district have
    already replaced theirs :

    Your upcoming plans for electric water heaters and home heating units
    will hurt the poorest of California residents.

    Have you all already replaced all the heaters in your homes? Please
    share at your next meeting what was the total cost and how much your
    electric bills increased. I’m retired and on a fixed income and will >> need to know how much to save before I have to take cold showers and
    wear a sweatshirt in the house.

    Have you required your gardeners to use electric tools when they work on
    your landscape?

    Do you all drive only electric cars wherever you go? (Tho you might take
    the bus).

    Are your backyard grills all electric?

    Do your swimming pools use electric heaters?

    Or do you live by “do as I say, not as I do” ?

    Don Wagner, Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors and
    member of the Governing Board of the South Coast Air Quality Management
    District, wrote an op ed for the OC Register addressing this. Here is
    what he reports:

    SCAQMD intends to adopt two rules on all homeowners, multi-family
    residents, and businesses – more than 17 million people in all. The >> goal: eliminate natural gas appliances. Proposed Amended Rules 1111 and
    1121 require homeowners, landlords, and businesses to replace furnaces
    and water heaters with costly new “zero-emission” electrical units.

    He said these new rules “will seemingly do little to clean the air,” but
    will financially hurt many:

    If implemented, these rules would impose ruinous expenses on already
    stretched residents and businesses, potentially cause people to lose
    housing, and strain an already stretched electricity grid.

    We’re talking potentially tens of thousands of dollars per unit for >> every homeowner, landlord, and business forced to make these purchases.

    Provoing my point that these Air Quality District board members don’t >> care, Wagner says:

    You will be forced to comply. The old technology – the water heaters and
    furnaces you are using today – will be illegal to purchase or install.

    Only the wealthiest of Southern California residents can afford such
    extravagance. Don’t even think about buying replacement units in other
    states and importing them. You will not be allowed to get a permit to
    install non-complying appliances, nor can you sell a property containing
    unpermitted units. You will have to comply.

    Wagner says the new zero-emission water heaters and furnaces require a
    substantial increase in electricity usage, which we have heard before.
    But SCAQMD doesn’t even have a cost estimate yet to power these new >> electric appliances. But their orders will take place anyway. It’s
    another Nancy Pelosi moment: “We have to pass the bill so that you can >> find out what is in it.”

    Governor Gavin Newsom has already fallen quite short of his promise to
    build 3.5 million new homes in California while in office. He’s a victim
    of his own party’s rules and regulations, but won’t admit it. Because as
    Supervisor Wagner knows, the new all-electric rules run counter to
    building affordable homes. “They achieve minimal air quality
    improvements, are prohibitively expensive and ignore the region’s energy
    challenges,” Wagner adds.

    Housing prices in California have dramatically increased since Newsom
    took office in 2019. And for all of his supposed efforts to streamline
    new housing construction, it just isn’t happening.

    “Newsom promised in October 2017 amid his campaign for governor that he
    would help spur the construction and completion of 3.5 million new
    housing units by the start of 2025, according to a post the
    then-lieutenant governor made on Medium,” the Daily Caller reported. >>
    “The governor took office in January 2019, when the state had around >> 14,235,201 housing units, and after five years at the helm, the number
    of units has increased to 14,824,626 as of the beginning of 2024,
    totaling just 589,626, according to data from the state’s Department of
    Finance.”

    That’s only 117,925 new homes built every year in California, 2019 –
    2024, while Gavin Newsom has been governor.

    And Newsom has very publicly berated and sued cities that have not
    fulfilled his directives to build “affordable housing” – even though he
    can’t even meet his own home building goals. And that is about the cost
    to build, from multiple layers of permitting, to the state’s absurd and
    cumbersome regulations and requirements… like requiring all new electric
    appliances.

    Many or most of the orders, directives and policies by Gov. Newsom and
    legislative Democrats are detrimental to California residents. It’s >> clear the politicians aren’t asking the voting people what is important
    to them, and instead are fulfilling policy set by higher powers… by
    people who not only don’t care about you, but who seem bent on harming
    you, and all of the people of California.

    And it appears that Gavin Newsom, legislative Democrats, and his
    appointees are making this happen – whether it is the South Coast Air >> Quality Management District, the California Air Resources Board, the
    State Water Resources Control Board, the CalEPA, the California Coastal
    Commission, the United Nations or the World Health Organization… behind
    all of it

    Remember, California Democrats voted for this.

    California Democrats are stupid.

    Same in NYS with governor Kathy Hochul.
    She's Newsom in heels.

    --
    pothead

    "Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
    "Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
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    --- Barack H. Obama

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Wed Jan 1 12:32:22 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 06:09:20 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    pothead wrote:
    On 2024-12-31, Trump was Right <lets@go.brandon> wrote:
    In <8fl6njpdafaughag0tlt6bdkbegnq5nvc2@4ax.com> John Smyth wrote:

    Aren't democrats supposed to be the party of democracy?
    They look more like fascists to me.
    Pray that this dictator never becomes President of the United States.

    'CA Gov. Newsom is Banning Gas Cars, Gas Stoves, Gas Furnaces, Gas Water >>>> Heaters Is California’s war on gas supposed to crush the state – because
    it will?'

    <https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-gov-newsom-is-banning-gas-cars-gas-stoves-gas-furnaces-gas-water-heaters/>

    'What has very clearly become an “us versus them? issue, an issue near >>>> and dear only to leftist politicians, is about to get really messy.

    They are coming for your gas-powered car, your gas stove, your gas water >>>> heater, your gas furnace, your gas dryer, your gas grille, your gas
    blower, your gas fireplace, and any other gas-powered appliance or
    vehicle you can think of.

    Who is “they? besides California Governor Gavin Newsom and the
    California Legislature imposing these policies on you?
    alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns,misc.immigration.usa,
    California is set to become the first state to ban natural gas heaters, >>>> water heaters, and furnaces by 2030, a policy of the California Air
    Resources Board, entirely made up of appointees by the governor, I
    reported in 2023 in The Tangled Government Web Behind the Push to Ban
    Gas Stoves, where we link Harvard Health Publishing, the Rocky Mountain >>>> Institute, MDPI International Journal of Environmental Research and
    Public Health, and U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH) National
    Library of Medicine. NIH is the largest source of funding for medical
    research in the world. The WHO is named in the studies, as are many
    Chinese studies.

    And they don’t care if it bankrupts you or causes you undue hardship. >>>> They don’t care if your public transit system is a hellhole on rails, >>>> when they take away your gas-powered car. They don’t care if you have to >>>> walk 5 miles to work. They don’t care. Just remember that they don’t >>>> care about you. They only care about their autocratic rules – and power. >>>>
    A California Globe reader sent me a powerful and poignant email today
    about the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to rid the >>>> region of gas heaters, asking if the members of the district have
    already replaced theirs :

    Your upcoming plans for electric water heaters and home heating units
    will hurt the poorest of California residents.

    Have you all already replaced all the heaters in your homes? Please
    share at your next meeting what was the total cost and how much your
    electric bills increased. I’m retired and on a fixed income and will >>>> need to know how much to save before I have to take cold showers and
    wear a sweatshirt in the house.

    Have you required your gardeners to use electric tools when they work on >>>> your landscape?

    Do you all drive only electric cars wherever you go? (Tho you might take >>>> the bus).

    Are your backyard grills all electric?

    Do your swimming pools use electric heaters?

    Or do you live by “do as I say, not as I do? ?

    Don Wagner, Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors and
    member of the Governing Board of the South Coast Air Quality Management >>>> District, wrote an op ed for the OC Register addressing this. Here is
    what he reports:

    SCAQMD intends to adopt two rules on all homeowners, multi-family
    residents, and businesses – more than 17 million people in all. The
    goal: eliminate natural gas appliances. Proposed Amended Rules 1111 and >>>> 1121 require homeowners, landlords, and businesses to replace furnaces >>>> and water heaters with costly new “zero-emission? electrical units. >>>>
    He said these new rules “will seemingly do little to clean the air,? but
    will financially hurt many:

    If implemented, these rules would impose ruinous expenses on already
    stretched residents and businesses, potentially cause people to lose
    housing, and strain an already stretched electricity grid.

    We’re talking potentially tens of thousands of dollars per unit for
    every homeowner, landlord, and business forced to make these purchases. >>>>
    Provoing my point that these Air Quality District board members don’t >>>> care, Wagner says:

    You will be forced to comply. The old technology – the water heaters and >>>> furnaces you are using today – will be illegal to purchase or install. >>>>
    Only the wealthiest of Southern California residents can afford such
    extravagance. Don’t even think about buying replacement units in other >>>> states and importing them. You will not be allowed to get a permit to
    install non-complying appliances, nor can you sell a property containing >>>> unpermitted units. You will have to comply.

    Wagner says the new zero-emission water heaters and furnaces require a >>>> substantial increase in electricity usage, which we have heard before. >>>> But SCAQMD doesn’t even have a cost estimate yet to power these new
    electric appliances. But their orders will take place anyway. It’s
    another Nancy Pelosi moment: “We have to pass the bill so that you can >>>> find out what is in it.?

    Governor Gavin Newsom has already fallen quite short of his promise to >>>> build 3.5 million new homes in California while in office. He’s a victim >>>> of his own party’s rules and regulations, but won’t admit it. Because as
    Supervisor Wagner knows, the new all-electric rules run counter to
    building affordable homes. “They achieve minimal air quality
    improvements, are prohibitively expensive and ignore the region’s energy >>>> challenges,? Wagner adds.

    Housing prices in California have dramatically increased since Newsom
    took office in 2019. And for all of his supposed efforts to streamline >>>> new housing construction, it just isn’t happening.

    “Newsom promised in October 2017 amid his campaign for governor that he >>>> would help spur the construction and completion of 3.5 million new
    housing units by the start of 2025, according to a post the
    then-lieutenant governor made on Medium,? the Daily Caller reported. >>>>
    “The governor took office in January 2019, when the state had around >>>> 14,235,201 housing units, and after five years at the helm, the number >>>> of units has increased to 14,824,626 as of the beginning of 2024,
    totaling just 589,626, according to data from the state’s Department of >>>> Finance.?

    That’s only 117,925 new homes built every year in California, 2019 – >>>> 2024, while Gavin Newsom has been governor.

    And Newsom has very publicly berated and sued cities that have not
    fulfilled his directives to build “affordable housing? – even though he
    can’t even meet his own home building goals. And that is about the cost >>>> to build, from multiple layers of permitting, to the state’s absurd and >>>> cumbersome regulations and requirements… like requiring all new electric >>>> appliances.

    Many or most of the orders, directives and policies by Gov. Newsom and >>>> legislative Democrats are detrimental to California residents. It’s
    clear the politicians aren’t asking the voting people what is important >>>> to them, and instead are fulfilling policy set by higher powers… by
    people who not only don’t care about you, but who seem bent on harming >>>> you, and all of the people of California.
    i
    And it appears that Gavin Newsom, legislative Democrats, and his
    appointees are making this happen – whether it is the South Coast Air >>>> Quality Management District, the California Air Resources Board, the
    State Water Resources Control Board, the CalEPA, the California Coastal >>>> Commission, the United Nations or the World Health Organization… behind >>>> all of it

    Remember, California Democrats voted for this.

    California Democrats are stupid.

    Same in NYS with governor Kathy Hochul.
    She's Newsom in heels.


    Reagan started this. Blame him.

    Oh? Do explain how he did this.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Jan 2 07:21:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats.governors
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 12:32:22 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 06:09:20 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    pothead wrote:
    On 2024-12-31, Trump was Right <lets@go.brandon> wrote:
    In <8fl6njpdafaughag0tlt6bdkbegnq5nvc2@4ax.com> John Smyth wrote:

    Aren't democrats supposed to be the party of democracy?
    They look more like fascists to me.
    Pray that this dictator never becomes President of the United States. >>>>>
    'CA Gov. Newsom is Banning Gas Cars, Gas Stoves, Gas Furnaces, Gas Water >>>>> Heaters Is California’s war on gas supposed to crush the state – because
    it will?'

    <https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-gov-newsom-is-banning-gas-cars-gas-stoves-gas-furnaces-gas-water-heaters/>

    'What has very clearly become an “us versus them? issue, an issue near
    and dear only to leftist politicians, is about to get really messy.

    They are coming for your gas-powered car, your gas stove, your gas water >>>>> heater, your gas furnace, your gas dryer, your gas grille, your gas
    blower, your gas fireplace, and any other gas-powered appliance or
    vehicle you can think of.

    Who is “they? besides California Governor Gavin Newsom and the
    California Legislature imposing these policies on you?
    alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns,misc.immigration.usa,
    California is set to become the first state to ban natural gas heaters, >>>>> water heaters, and furnaces by 2030, a policy of the California Air
    Resources Board, entirely made up of appointees by the governor, I
    reported in 2023 in The Tangled Government Web Behind the Push to Ban >>>>> Gas Stoves, where we link Harvard Health Publishing, the Rocky Mountain >>>>> Institute, MDPI International Journal of Environmental Research and >>>>> Public Health, and U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH) National
    Library of Medicine. NIH is the largest source of funding for medical >>>>> research in the world. The WHO is named in the studies, as are many
    Chinese studies.

    And they don’t care if it bankrupts you or causes you undue hardship. >>>>> They don’t care if your public transit system is a hellhole on rails, >>>>> when they take away your gas-powered car. They don’t care if you have to
    walk 5 miles to work. They don’t care. Just remember that they don’t >>>>> care about you. They only care about their autocratic rules – and power.

    A California Globe reader sent me a powerful and poignant email today >>>>> about the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to rid the >>>>> region of gas heaters, asking if the members of the district have
    already replaced theirs :

    Your upcoming plans for electric water heaters and home heating units >>>>> will hurt the poorest of California residents.

    Have you all already replaced all the heaters in your homes? Please
    share at your next meeting what was the total cost and how much your >>>>> electric bills increased. I’m retired and on a fixed income and will >>>>> need to know how much to save before I have to take cold showers and >>>>> wear a sweatshirt in the house.

    Have you required your gardeners to use electric tools when they work on >>>>> your landscape?

    Do you all drive only electric cars wherever you go? (Tho you might take >>>>> the bus).

    Are your backyard grills all electric?

    Do your swimming pools use electric heaters?

    Or do you live by “do as I say, not as I do? ?

    Don Wagner, Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors and
    member of the Governing Board of the South Coast Air Quality Management >>>>> District, wrote an op ed for the OC Register addressing this. Here is >>>>> what he reports:

    SCAQMD intends to adopt two rules on all homeowners, multi-family
    residents, and businesses – more than 17 million people in all. The >>>>> goal: eliminate natural gas appliances. Proposed Amended Rules 1111 and >>>>> 1121 require homeowners, landlords, and businesses to replace furnaces >>>>> and water heaters with costly new “zero-emission? electrical units. >>>>>
    He said these new rules “will seemingly do little to clean the air,? but
    will financially hurt many:

    If implemented, these rules would impose ruinous expenses on already >>>>> stretched residents and businesses, potentially cause people to lose >>>>> housing, and strain an already stretched electricity grid.

    We’re talking potentially tens of thousands of dollars per unit for >>>>> every homeowner, landlord, and business forced to make these purchases. >>>>>
    Provoing my point that these Air Quality District board members don’t >>>>> care, Wagner says:

    You will be forced to comply. The old technology – the water heaters and
    furnaces you are using today – will be illegal to purchase or install. >>>>>
    Only the wealthiest of Southern California residents can afford such >>>>> extravagance. Don’t even think about buying replacement units in other >>>>> states and importing them. You will not be allowed to get a permit to >>>>> install non-complying appliances, nor can you sell a property containing >>>>> unpermitted units. You will have to comply.

    Wagner says the new zero-emission water heaters and furnaces require a >>>>> substantial increase in electricity usage, which we have heard before. >>>>> But SCAQMD doesn’t even have a cost estimate yet to power these new >>>>> electric appliances. But their orders will take place anyway. It’s >>>>> another Nancy Pelosi moment: “We have to pass the bill so that you can >>>>> find out what is in it.?

    Governor Gavin Newsom has already fallen quite short of his promise to >>>>> build 3.5 million new homes in California while in office. He’s a victim
    of his own party’s rules and regulations, but won’t admit it. Because as
    Supervisor Wagner knows, the new all-electric rules run counter to
    building affordable homes. “They achieve minimal air quality
    improvements, are prohibitively expensive and ignore the region’s energy
    challenges,? Wagner adds.

    Housing prices in California have dramatically increased since Newsom >>>>> took office in 2019. And for all of his supposed efforts to streamline >>>>> new housing construction, it just isn’t happening.

    “Newsom promised in October 2017 amid his campaign for governor that he >>>>> would help spur the construction and completion of 3.5 million new
    housing units by the start of 2025, according to a post the
    then-lieutenant governor made on Medium,? the Daily Caller reported. >>>>>
    “The governor took office in January 2019, when the state had around >>>>> 14,235,201 housing units, and after five years at the helm, the number >>>>> of units has increased to 14,824,626 as of the beginning of 2024,
    totaling just 589,626, according to data from the state’s Department of >>>>> Finance.?

    That’s only 117,925 new homes built every year in California, 2019 – >>>>> 2024, while Gavin Newsom has been governor.

    And Newsom has very publicly berated and sued cities that have not
    fulfilled his directives to build “affordable housing? – even though he
    can’t even meet his own home building goals. And that is about the cost >>>>> to build, from multiple layers of permitting, to the state’s absurd and >>>>> cumbersome regulations and requirements… like requiring all new electric
    appliances.

    Many or most of the orders, directives and policies by Gov. Newsom and >>>>> legislative Democrats are detrimental to California residents. It’s >>>>> clear the politicians aren’t asking the voting people what is important >>>>> to them, and instead are fulfilling policy set by higher powers… by >>>>> people who not only don’t care about you, but who seem bent on harming >>>>> you, and all of the people of California.
    i
    And it appears that Gavin Newsom, legislative Democrats, and his
    appointees are making this happen – whether it is the South Coast Air >>>>> Quality Management District, the California Air Resources Board, the >>>>> State Water Resources Control Board, the CalEPA, the California Coastal >>>>> Commission, the United Nations or the World Health Organization… behind >>>>> all of it

    Remember, California Democrats voted for this.

    California Democrats are stupid.

    Same in NYS with governor Kathy Hochul.
    She's Newsom in heels.


    Reagan started this. Blame him.

    Oh? Do explain how he did this.

    <crickets.wav>

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