• Re: And Suddenly, Gavin Newsom's Electric Car Mandate Looks Pretty Dumb

    From Seen Enough@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sun Jan 19 03:42:41 2025
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    In <dteooj1klhugd86iu0cae8rlm85lf0r0jv@4ax.com> John Smyth wrote:

    "And Suddenly, Gavin Newsom's Electric Car Mandate Looks Pretty Dumb to
    LA Fire Victims"

    <https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2025/01/17/and-suddenly-gavin-newsoms-electric-car-mandate-looks-pretty-dumb-to-la-fire-victims-n4936072>

    'He'll save the inedible bait fish, the weed that no one's ever heard
    of, elevate meritless executives, and kill the gas car. Those are the
    highest environmental aspirations of Gavin Newsom, the alleged visionary governor of California, whose distorted priorities have combined to
    create the conditions for LA Inferno 2025. As the smoke begins to clear,
    the cruel environy is dawning.

    Let's not forget the $34 billion COVID fraud debt that he saddled CA businesses with.

    Even now, the homeless LA gliteratti, who soon may be allowed to sift
    through the ashes of their homes in hopes of finding the gold coins that looters haven't dug up yet, wonder how they could have been so gullible.
    They bought Newsom's climate change diktats hook, line, and gas can, and
    now their electric car doesn't work. Their beloved Tesla and their
    neighbor's Nissan Leaf are charred carbon hulks considered by the
    environment police to be portable toxic waste dumps. I'm sorry, sir, and
    you can't move it until we've studied the environmental externalities of
    your charred car. Grab a number.

    And no mocking these poor folks, America, because this Caltastrophe may
    have bought more time for the rest of the country to shout down the
    climate cultists in state houses across the country. California's proof
    of concept showed that climate nirvana doesn't protect the environment
    for humans.

    Fuck shouting them down. Stand them up and cut their throats.

    Indeed, though less important, it's now dawning on Angelenos, more than
    a week after the fires started, that they're witnessing the incineration
    of all the "greenhouse emissions reductions" promised in Newsom's 2035
    gas car ban.


    More pointedly, if you have no power for a week, as thousands of Los
    Angeles residents who live near the evacuated fire areas have
    experienced, you can't charge your car battery. What happens if the fire spreads and you can't get out?

    BBQ Democrat, coyotes and 'coons will eat it.

    When their lives depended on it, the diktats and mandates didn't help,
    but gas cars sure did.

    The LA Times reported — and I'm sure it killed them to do it — that EV
    drivers are having a tough time of it.

    You’ve plugged your electric vehicle into your home charger and hit the
    sack. Overnight, high winds topple a power line. Your charger blacks
    out. Then, a report of a fire, followed by an evacuation order. Your battery’s only charged to 25%. And it’s your only car.

    Such are the fears some California car buyers are expressing amid the
    fires that have devastated Los Angeles County and forced people to
    evacuate their homes at a moment’s notice.

    Walk and run bitches.

    Believe it or not, there were no woke follow-up promises of ponies and unicorns in the LAT, though I'm sure they would have proved more useful
    than cars with dead batteries.

    The Times brought anecdotes crystallizing some of the biggest problems
    with forcing people to have nothing but electric vehicles by 2035.

    A gasoline car “can evacuate in any direction on any road and still get fuel when needed,” said Matthew Butterick, a Los Angeles attorney who lives near Griffith Park. “The EV stations on evacuation routes would have massive lines and delays, gasoline stations less so. And the
    electric grid may not be available. Power companies turn off power to
    avoid sparking a fire and also to avoid legal liability. This is
    probably the future of all the hillside neighborhoods.”

    Imagine the freeways. Stone still and packed with discharged BEVs.

    His sentiments were echoed by Val Cipollone, who lives in the wooded
    hills above Berkeley. She owns a Nissan Leaf, a full electric vehicle
    with a roughly 220-mile range, which she plans to sell.

    “Who knows how far you’d have to drive” after a disaster, she said. “I
    used to think I’d only need to drive to my place of work. But who knows,
    I might have to go much farther.”

    It bears noting that Jimmy Carter-like lines for electricity to power
    cars aren't any better than waiting in gas lines in 1973. Nobody wants
    that.

    Related: Stunner: California Saved a Shrub Instead of Protecting Humans
    From the L.A. Firestorm

    These people are waiting in subfreezing temperatures for gas — propane —
    with which to cook and keep warm. It's a three-mile-long line. This has
    been going on for weeks for the people in the hurricane-stricken areas
    of North Carolina.

    Another Democrat screw job left for Republicans to clean up.

    They wouldn't make it in a line that long in EVs.

    It's for these reasons that some car companies manufacture hybrid
    vehicles instead of EV-only vehicles.

    Californians still remember when Newsom announced his 2035 diktat and
    within days asked people not to plug in their cars because it would be
    too big a strain on the electrical grid. Does this make sense? The
    question answers itself.

    Just this week, Newsom announced he was halting his ban on diesel fuel
    from the state and withdrawing his request for a waiver from the EPA to switch the state to all-electric delivery and commercial trucks. Maybe
    he'll see the light on EV mandates also.

    EVs have their place, of course, just maybe not when you are running for
    your life'

    Incapacitate one large power plant in the Western US during the onset of evening, a domino effect will occur and take out the rest.

    It has already happened in the SOCAL area.

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