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    From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 23 20:48:48 2025
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    Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.

    http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml

    This is a brilliant article. Open borders proponents like Lee and Mitchell Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and like all extremist ideologues, they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies). Neither Lee nor Holman will read this piece. They just don't have either the stamina or the intellectual honesty. While both of them get Trump exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own side exactly wrong.

    Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it wrong — entirely.
    He ignored over a century of American statutory law that completely *broke* with
    the common law, and he ignored prior Supreme Court decisions — including one of
    his own — that correctly interpreted the citizenship clause.

    Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the two most notorious open borders advocates here, will simply revert to their long-demolished arguments about the fictional "problems" associated with /jus sanguinis/ (citizenship by descend). The fact is, there are *no* inherent problems with /jus sanguinis/. They are a figment of Lee's and Mitchell's fevered imaginations. *Every* European country — 100% of them — has /jus sanguinis/ as its fundamental citizenship law. You're a citizen at birth of a European *only* if one or both of your parents are citizens of that country. If Somali or Argentine or Canadian parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany, that child is not a citizen of Germany. Before marking "German" on a newborn's identity documents, the German authorities first determine if one of the child's
    parents is a German citizen. If neither parent has German citizenship, then the child doesn't. It's that simple.

    That's how it should be here.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Fri Jan 24 05:34:46 2025
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    Rudy Canoza wrote:

    Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.


    http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml

    This is a brilliant article. Open borders proponents like Lee and
    Mitchell Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and like all
    extremist ideologues, they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies). Neither
    Lee nor Holman will read this piece. They just don't have either the
    stamina or the intellectual honesty. While both of them get Trump
    exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own side exactly wrong.

    Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it wrong
    — entirely. He ignored over a century of American statutory law that completely broke with the common law, and he ignored prior Supreme
    Court decisions — including one of his own — that correctly
    interpreted the citizenship clause.

    Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the two
    most notorious open borders advocates here, will simply revert to
    their long-demolished arguments about the fictional "problems"
    associated with /jus sanguinis/ (citizenship by descend). The fact
    is, there are no inherent problems with /jus sanguinis/. They are a
    figment of Lee's and Mitchell's fevered imaginations. Every European
    country — 100% of them — has /jus sanguinis/ as its fundamental citizenship law. You're a citizen at birth of a European only if one
    or both of your parents are citizens of that country. If Somali or
    Argentine or Canadian parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany,
    that child is not a citizen of Germany. Before marking "German" on a newborn's identity documents, the German authorities first determine
    if one of the child's parents is a German citizen. If neither parent
    has German citizenship, then the child doesn't. It's that simple.

    That's how it should be here.

    I'M HERE! I'M QUEER! GET USED TO IT!!

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Fri Jan 24 14:06:51 2025
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    Rudy Canoza wrote:
    Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.

    http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml


    This is a brilliant article. Open borders proponents like Lee and
    Mitchell Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and like
    all extremist ideologues, they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies).
    Neither Lee nor Holman will read this piece. They just don't have
    either the stamina or the intellectual honesty. While both of
    them get Trump exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own
    side exactly wrong.

    Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it
    wrong — entirely. He ignored over a century of American statutory
    law that completely *broke* with the common law, and he ignored
    prior Supreme Court decisions — including one of his own — that
    correctly interpreted the citizenship clause.

    Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the
    two most notorious open borders advocates here, will simply
    revert to their long-demolished arguments about the fictional
    "problems" associated with /jus sanguinis/ (citizenship by
    descend). The fact is, there are *no* inherent problems with /jus
    sanguinis/. They are a figment of Lee's and Mitchell's fevered
    imaginations. *Every* European country — 100% of them — has /jus sanguinis/ as its fundamental citizenship law. You're a citizen
    at birth of a European *only* if one or both of your parents are
    citizens of that country. If Somali or Argentine or Canadian
    parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany, that child is not
    a citizen of Germany. Before marking "German" on a newborn's
    identity documents, the German authorities first determine if one
    of the child's parents is a German citizen. If neither parent has
    German citizenship, then the child doesn't. It's that simple.

    That's how it should be here.


    technically, a land of immigrants should have a different
    criteria for citizenship than the organic cultures of eurasia. so
    it applies to australia and new zealand also.

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