As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain >>> in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain >> in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
    As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to
remain
    in the United States.
    United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
In article <vnakm1$1rghv$1@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain >> >> in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Criminals?
Therefore every illegal is a criminal and subject to
deportation.
Attila wrote:
Therefore every illegal is a criminal and subject to
deportation.
Are they deported? Or just kidnapped?
<https://azmirror.com/2025/01/25/no-court-no-hearing-trump-revives-fast-track-deportations-expands-reach-nationwide/>
The Trump administration has revived a border security policy that
legal experts say paves the way for mass deportations
— without
even a court hearing
— and threatens to put Latino Arizonans,
regardless of their citizenship status
, at risk of racial
profiling and removal from the country.
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain >>> in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have >been illegally arrested and deported.
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 07:33:33 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <vnatch$1t3pa$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila wrote:
Therefore every illegal is a criminal and subject to
deportation.
Are they deported? Or just kidnapped?
<https://azmirror.com/2025/01/25/no-court-no-hearing-trump-revives-fast >>-track-deportations-expands-reach-nationwide/>
The Trump administration has revived a border security policy that
legal experts say paves the way for mass deportations
Which is the way it should be.
— without
even a court hearing
Not necessary
— and threatens to put Latino Arizonans,
regardless of their citizenship status
Wrong. Citizens should not be deported in the normal course
of events.
On 1/28/2025 11:04 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
<LOL> Nonsense.
Nope.
Posting a list of things that render an alian [sic] as
being deportable does not support your claim.
Such a list is conspicuously absent from your post. You have never seen one. >Nonetheless, while most of the things for which an *alien* can be deported are >crimes, unlawful presence per se is not a crime.
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway. >>>>
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS >https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have >been illegally arrested and deported.
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway. >>>>
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS >https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
On 1/28/2025 12:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:22:18 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182 >>>>>>>>>
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway. >>>>>>
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS
https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
All talk, no proof
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not a crime. You're just
too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in >news:ae9ipj9jcfb7ertmk6oplsukekad29f9td@4ax.com:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 07:33:33 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<vnatch$1t3pa$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila wrote:
Therefore every illegal is a criminal and subject to
deportation.
Are they deported? Or just kidnapped?
<https://azmirror.com/2025/01/25/no-court-no-hearing-trump-revives-fast >>>-track-deportations-expands-reach-nationwide/>
The Trump administration has revived a border security policy that
legal experts say paves the way for mass deportations
Which is the way it should be.
— without
even a court hearing
Not necessary
— and threatens to put Latino Arizonans,
regardless of their citizenship status
Wrong. Citizens should not be deported in the normal course
of events.
Citizens cannot not be deported. Ever.
Leaving aside the problem of where you
can deport a US citizen to..........
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain >>> in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
On 1/28/2025 11:04 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
<LOL> Nonsense.
Nope.
Posting a list of things that render an alian [sic] as
being deportable does not support your claim.
Such a list is conspicuously absent from your post. You have never seen one. >Nonetheless, while most of the things for which an *alien* can be deported are >crimes, unlawful presence per se is not a crime.
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <YJ9mP.1259698$aTp4.250528@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
Even if they have documentation proving their status?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not
a crime. You're just too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Of course it is. By definition anything unlawful is a
crime. Otherwise it would be lawful.
On 1/28/2025 11:45 PM, Attila wrote:Is the subject of a deportation order expected to self-deport, Francis?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:By definition anything defined by statute to be a crime is a crime. There are a
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not
a crime. You're just too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Of course it is. By definition anything unlawful is a
crime. Otherwise it would be lawful.
myriad things that are unlawful that are not crimes, for example torts and breaches of contract, also statutes that only carry civil penalties if they are
violated.
Anyone who enters the country illegally has committed a crime,
8 U.S.C. § 1325. Anyone who assists them to stay in the USA
has also committed a crime, 8 U.S.C. § 1324.
A non-citizen who enters the USA with a valid visa, who stays after
the visa expires, is in the country unlawfully. Overstaying an expired
visa is a civil violation, it is not a crime. However, remaining in
the face of a deportation order is a crime.
On 1/28/2025 10:47 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <6K9mP.1259699$aTp4.935815@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
Yet illegals
No such thing.
are deported for being illegal.
A person cannot be "illegal." There is no such thing.
On 1/28/2025 10:48 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:19:06 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <_YamP.1402703$Uup4.358247@fx10.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:04 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
<LOL> Nonsense.
Nope.
Posting a list of things that render an alian [sic] as
being deportable does not support your claim.
Such a list is conspicuously absent from your post. You have never seen one.
Nonetheless, while most of the things for which an *alien* can be deported are
crimes, unlawful presence per se is not a crime.
It is enough of a crime to be deported.
It is not a crime at all. This is settled.
On 1/28/2025 10:45 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <2abmP.372817$a6K9.48216@fx06.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 12:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:22:18 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182 >>>>>>>>>>
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS
https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
All talk, no proof
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not a crime. You're just
too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Of course it is.
Of course it is *not*.
By definition anything unlawful is a crime.
That's false. Many things that are unlawful, including unlawful presence, are not crimes. If you fail to obtain proper building permits for a project on your
property, that is not a crime. It is a civil violation for which you might be fined but *not* incarcerated.
They are *civil* violations. Unlawful presence is a civil violation. A person found to be in the state of unlawful presence *cannot* be sentenced to incarceration. You are wrong. You are stupid.
On 1/28/2025 10:45 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <2abmP.372817$a6K9.48216@fx06.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 12:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:22:18 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182 >>>>>>>>>>
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS
https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
All talk, no proof
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not a crime. You're just
too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Of course it is.
Of course it is *not*.
By definition anything unlawful is a crime.
That's false. Many things that are unlawful, including unlawful presence, are not crimes. If you fail to obtain proper building permits for a project on your
property, that is not a crime. It is a civil violation for which you might be fined but *not* incarcerated.
They are *civil* violations. Unlawful presence is a civil violation. A person found to be in the state of unlawful presence *cannot* be sentenced to incarceration. You are wrong. You are stupid.
On 1/28/2025 10:45 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<2abmP.372817$a6K9.48216@fx06.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 12:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:22:18 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182 >>>>>>>>>>>
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS
https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
All talk, no proof
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not a crime. You're just
too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Of course it is.
Of course it is *not*.
By definition anything unlawful is a crime.
That's false. Many things that are unlawful, including unlawful presence, are >not crimes. If you fail to obtain proper building permits for a project on your
property, that is not a crime. It is a civil violation for which you might be >fined but *not* incarcerated.
They are *civil* violations. Unlawful presence is a civil violation. A person >found to be in the state of unlawful presence *cannot* be sentenced to >incarceration. You are wrong. You are stupid.
On 1/28/2025 10:42 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<YJ9mP.1259698$aTp4.250528@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway. >>>>
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
Even if they have documentation proving their status?
Yes.
On 1/28/2025 10:48 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:19:06 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<_YamP.1402703$Uup4.358247@fx10.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:04 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
<LOL> Nonsense.
Nope.
Posting a list of things that render an alian [sic] as
being deportable does not support your claim.
Such a list is conspicuously absent from your post. You have never seen one.
Nonetheless, while most of the things for which an *alien* can be deported are
crimes, unlawful presence per se is not a crime.
It is enough of a crime to be deported.
It is not a crime at all. This is settled.
On 1/28/2025 10:47 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6K9mP.1259699$aTp4.935815@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
Yet illegals
No such thing.
are deported for being illegal.
A person cannot be "illegal." There is no such thing.
On 1/29/2025 12:27 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:02:11 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <natmP.2090491$bYV2.2013524@fx17.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 10:48 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:19:06 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<_YamP.1402703$Uup4.358247@fx10.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:04 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182 >>>>>>>>
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
<LOL> Nonsense.
Nope.
Posting a list of things that render an alian [sic] as
being deportable does not support your claim.
Such a list is conspicuously absent from your post. You have never seen one.
Nonetheless, while most of the things for which an *alien* can be deported are
crimes, unlawful presence per se is not a crime.
It is enough of a crime to be deported.
It is not a crime at all. This is settled.
It will still get them deported.
No one said it wouldn't.
On 1/29/2025 12:28 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:02:28 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <EatmP.2090492$bYV2.1311027@fx17.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 10:47 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6K9mP.1259699$aTp4.935815@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
Yet illegals
No such thing.
are deported for being illegal.
A person cannot be "illegal." There is no such thing.
Don't be dense. Their actions can put them into an illegalThen say that. Say that they are unlawfully present. Calling them "illegals" is
category.
racist.
On 1/29/2025 12:23 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:08:36 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreudenot
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ogtmP.1114168$EYNf.970617@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 10:45 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<2abmP.372817$a6K9.48216@fx06.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 12:29 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:22:18 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 11:06 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:48 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 5:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:05:05 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>> <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
Not a state crime, anyway...
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227 >>>>>>>>>>>>
Being a citizen is not a crime but citizens are being arrested anyway.
Nobody has been arrested for being a citizen, Dumbass.
No one has been arrested and deported "for" being a citizen, but citizens have
been illegally arrested and deported.
So you say, anyway...
DATA ON ICE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF U.S. CITIZENS
https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf
Read it and weep, loser.
All talk, no proof
No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not a crime. You're just
too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.
Of course it is.
Of course it is *not*.
By definition anything unlawful is a crime.
That's false. Many things that are unlawful, including unlawful presence, are
not crimes. If you fail to obtain proper building permits for a project on your
property, that is not a crime. It is a civil violation for which you might be
fined but *not* incarcerated.
They are *civil* violations. Unlawful presence is a civil violation. A person
found to be in the state of unlawful presence *cannot* be sentenced to
incarceration. You are wrong. You are stupid.
It's illegal enough for the President.
Illegal does not equal criminal.
On 1/29/2025 12:28 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:02:28 -0800, Klaus SchadenfreudeThen say that. Say that they are unlawfully present. Calling them "illegals" is
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<EatmP.2090492$bYV2.1311027@fx17.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 10:47 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6K9mP.1259699$aTp4.935815@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
Yet illegals
No such thing.
are deported for being illegal.
A person cannot be "illegal." There is no such thing.
Don't be dense. Their actions can put them into an illegal
category.
racist.
In article <HEwmP.45276$HO1.24299@fx14.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
On 1/29/2025 12:28 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:02:28 -0800, Klaus SchadenfreudeThen say that. Say that they are unlawfully present. Calling them "illegals" is
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<EatmP.2090492$bYV2.1311027@fx17.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 10:47 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6K9mP.1259699$aTp4.935815@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
in the United States.
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, *especially* not a federal crime. That's what
SCOTUS ruled.
Yet illegals
No such thing.
are deported for being illegal.
A person cannot be "illegal." There is no such thing.
Don't be dense. Their actions can put them into an illegal
category.
racist.
what if they are white?
On 1/29/2025 3:49 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:59:18 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><HEwmP.45276$HO1.24299@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 1/29/2025 12:28 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:02:28 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><EatmP.2090492$bYV2.1311027@fx17.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 10:47 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:54:58 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<katt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><6K9mP.1259699$aTp4.935815@fx09.iad> wrote:
On 1/28/2025 4:37 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:07:26 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<katt@gmail.com> wrote:
alien to remain >>>>>>>> in the United States.As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable
United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States >>>>>>>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
Unlawful presence:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
Not a state crime, anyway...
It's not any kind of crime at all, especially not a
federal crime. That's what SCOTUS ruled.
Yet illegals
No such thing.
are deported for being illegal.
A person cannot be "illegal." There is no such thing.
Don't be dense. Their actions can put them into an illegalThen say that. Say that they are unlawfully present. Calling them "illegals" is racist.
category.
Only in your mind.
No. In basic English.
I don't care where they are from. The only thing that counts is
being illegal.
No one "is" illegal. Their presence might be unlawful, but they are
not illegal. People who refer to unlawfully present aliens as
"illegals" are Nazi shitbags by definition.
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