• Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene says federal workers don't deserve their job

    From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sat Mar 1 14:24:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees do
    not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be fired at
    will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.


    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.




    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out
    from complaining that government is too big and
    cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only
    one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Mar 1 11:05:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees do
    not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be fired at
    will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D

    --
    A morgue is a morgue is a morgue. They can paint the walls with aggressively cheerful primary colors and splashy bold graphics, but it's still a holding place for the dead until they can be parted out to organ banks. Not that I would have cared normally but my viewpoint was skewed. The relentless pleasance of the room I sat in seemed only grotesque.
    -- Pat Cadigan, "Mindplayers"

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sat Mar 1 18:50:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in news:vpvb84$9j9b$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees
    do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be
    fired at will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that
    government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is
    only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies
    of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive
    tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same
    oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D



    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 1 12:45:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <XnsB29580BC3D9C5629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
    says...

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in news:vpvb84$9j9b$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    ⤽Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees
    do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be
    fired at will,⤝ she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that
    government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is
    only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies
    of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive
    tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same
    oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D



    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

    Why? None of the others did.

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  • From Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 1 21:20:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    On 01 Mar 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB29553C3AFB6629555@185.151.15.160:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees do
    not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be fired at
    will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.


    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.




    Modern Democrat: Someone who take time out
    from complaining that government is too big and
    cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only
    one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    Fixed your post. You should try and get out more.

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  • From Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 1 21:25:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    On 01 Mar 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB29580BC3D9C5629555@185.151.15.190:

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in news:vpvb84$9j9b$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees
    do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be
    fired at will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that
    government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is
    only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies
    of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive
    tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for
    disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same
    oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D

    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

    Why? He's already done more in four months than Joe Biden did in four
    years - and he wasn't even in office yet for two of those months.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners on Sat Mar 1 22:20:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    On 2025-03-01, Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners <alumni@s_.org> wrote:
    On 01 Mar 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB29580BC3D9C5629555@185.151.15.190:

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in
    news:vpvb84$9j9b$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees >>>>>>> do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be
    fired at will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that
    government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is
    only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies
    of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive
    tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for
    disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same
    oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D

    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

    Why? He's already done more in four months than Joe Biden did in four
    years - and he wasn't even in office yet for two of those months.

    That he has.
    Last time Trump had to learn the DC political ropes and how the DC machine works and
    it's nothing like running a corporation. He spent the first 2 years learning but by the time
    he was getting the hang of the job the midterms took republicans out of power and
    between that and the endless investigations into Trump he was hamstrung.

    This time things are totally different.
    Obviously Trump and his advisors have been planning all that he is doing out for a long time
    and the day he was elected the plans began being executed.

    This is unprecedented in history.
    Can anyone name a POTUS who has executed this quickly?

    Well I suppose Biden did on his first day as POTUS by rescinding the Trump policies and
    we can see how well that worked out. Besides, Biden didn't even know what he was signing.

    However I digress, Trump will of course have to make course corrections along the way
    but he is delivering on his promises. Of course the libbys are going off the rails with their
    knit picking and focusing on minor issues that will take some time while ignoring
    all that Trump has done in a month and a half.

    The left is sunk by nuke sub SS Trump and they know it.
    They can't fool the people anymore.
    --
    pothead

    Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
    Read below to learn the reason.
    The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Mar 1 16:53:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    pothead wrote:
    Can anyone name a POTUS who has executed this quickly?

    Any so constantly losing in courts they overturned Marbury v Madison?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Mar 2 03:07:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vq016h$di96$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-01, Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners <alumni@s_.org> wrote:
    On 01 Mar 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some
    news:XnsB29580BC3D9C5629555@185.151.15.190:

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in
    news:vpvb84$9j9b$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal
    employees do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs
    that can be fired at will,” she claimed during a hearing of
    the House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and
    Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining
    that government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why
    there is only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government
    agencies of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs
    their massive tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services
    as a pretext for disbanding those agencies and giving the functions
    to these same oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D

    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

    Why? He's already done more in four months than Joe Biden did in
    four years - and he wasn't even in office yet for two of those
    months.

    That he has.
    Last time Trump had to learn the DC political ropes and how the DC
    machine works and it's nothing like running a corporation. He spent
    the first 2 years learning but by the time he was getting the hang of
    the job the midterms took republicans out of power and between that
    and the endless investigations into Trump he was hamstrung.

    This time things are totally different.
    Obviously Trump and his advisors have been planning all that he is
    doing out for a long time and the day he was elected the plans began
    being executed.

    This is unprecedented in history.
    Can anyone name a POTUS who has executed this quickly?


    Indeed, only Trump could have thousands
    of his own supporters streaming into town
    halls demanding their GOP reps to undo the
    damage he is doing after just a month in
    office.



    Well I suppose Biden did on his first day as POTUS by rescinding the
    Trump policies and we can see how well that worked out.


    Indeed. Biden created thousands of new
    jobs, reduced federal spending, cut the
    unemployment rate almost in half.

    Now unemployment is soaring, mass layoffs
    are daily news, even the stock market is in
    free fall.


    However I digress, Trump will of course have to make course
    corrections along the way but he is delivering on his promises.


    His promise not to cut Medicare?

    His promise of mass deportations?

    His promise to lock up Hillary?

    His promise to lower prices?

    His promise to end the Ukraine war?

    How are those "promises" working out?

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners on Mon Mar 3 13:29:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    On 3/1/2025 1:25 PM, Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners wrote:
    On 01 Mar 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB29580BC3D9C5629555@185.151.15.190:

    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in
    news:vpvb84$9j9b$1@dont-email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:vpu99c$3rt1$6@dont-email.me:

    P. Coonan wrote:
    “Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees >>>>>>> do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be
    fired at will,” she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that
    government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is
    only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies
    of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive
    tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for
    disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same
    oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D

    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

    Why? He's already done more in four months

    Trump has done nothing good — literally nothing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nathan Solis@21:1/5 to Little Laos on Mon Mar 3 13:32:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    On 2/27/2025 7:55 PM, Little Laos wrote:
    WASHINGTON (TNND) — Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., said Tuesday federal workers don’t deserve their jobs.
    Greene is the dumbest whore ever sent to Congress.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Tue Mar 4 07:01:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.government.employees
    XPost: or.politics

    J Carlson wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 3/1/2025 1:25 PM, Scottish Rite and Aniad Shriners wrote:

    <snip>

    Why? He's already done more in four months

    Trump has done nothing good — literally nothing.

    Well, he seems to have scared migrants off of the Mexico border with his manifest lawlessness and Stephen-Miller cruelty.

    --
    Largest Number of Driving Test Failures
    By April 1970 Mrs. Miriam Hargrave had failed her test thirty-nine times. In the eight preceding years she had received two hundred and
    twelve driving lessons at a cost of L300. She set the new record while
    driving triumphantly through a set of red traffic lights in Wakefield, Yorkshire. Disappointingly, she passed at the fortieth attempt (3 August
    1970) but eight years later she showed some of her old magic when she was reported as saying that she still didn't like doing right-hand turns.
    -- Stephen Pile, "The Book of Heroic Failures"

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Moron-a-lago on Tue Mar 4 09:27:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Moron-a-lago" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5o6csj1nv1sngik19amhtck7qqs389s74p@4ax.com...
    On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:24:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
    wrote:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote
    P. Coonan wrote:
    ?oFederal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees do >>>>> not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be fired at >>>>> will,?? she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out
    from complaining that government is too big and
    cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only
    one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    I had to refer a customer to IRS today to get a problem with her return fixed.
    She complained, "But that'll take Forever. They just fired thousands of people!"

    and yet when the IRS was smaller, and had far fewer employees, but employees that actually worked, you could get prompt and useful help.. now you are
    told to take a number and wait for hours only to be told they can do
    nothing.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Mar 4 15:49:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 3/4/25 09:27, Scout wrote:


    "Moron-a-lago" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5o6csj1nv1sngik19amhtck7qqs389s74p@4ax.com...
    On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:24:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
    wrote:

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote
    P. Coonan wrote:
    â?oFederal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees do >>>>>> not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be fired at >>>>>> will,â?? she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out
    from complaining that government is too big and
    cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only
    one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    I had to refer a customer to IRS today to get a problem with her
    return fixed.
    She complained, "But that'll take Forever.  They just fired thousands of
    people!"

    and yet when the IRS was smaller, and had far fewer employees, but
    employees that actually worked, you could get prompt and useful help..
    now you are told to take a number and wait for hours only to be told
    they can do nothing.

    The IRS call wait times averaged 28 minutes in the 2022 filing season,
    but after receiving Inflation Reduction Act funding dropped to just 3
    minutes.

    And it looks like the pre-CoVid wait times were previously over an hour:

    <https://callenq.com/blog/irs-hold-times-disconnect-data-10k/>


    Hmmm...does that mean that simply allowing work-from-home cut customer
    times in half?


    -hh

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Mar 4 19:05:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    -hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 3/4/25 09:27, Scout wrote:

    <who cares about this dumbass?>

    The IRS call wait times averaged 28 minutes in the 2022 filing season,
    but after receiving Inflation Reduction Act funding dropped to just 3 minutes.

    And it looks like the pre-CoVid wait times were previously over an hour:

    <https://callenq.com/blog/irs-hold-times-disconnect-data-10k/>

    Hmmm...does that mean that simply allowing work-from-home cut customer
    times in half?

    What's odd (or, actually expected, from the "management class") is thinking that the results and reports that were required by employees in the office somehow disappear because the employee is not in the office.

    Before I retired, our local corporate office, with the blessing of headquarters, due to the pressure of COVID-19, had us working from home.
    The fancy local office building were essentially empty, except for people who need to pack up products in the warehouse to send to customers.

    The rest of us worked fine remotely, and we interacted with other employees spread across the country, and with the customer located on the other coast.

    In fact, a number of things, like accessing project plans and documents, required remote access.

    Cynically, I expect idiocy from the "management class".

    --
    It is far better to be deceived than to be undeceived by those we love.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Mar 5 11:05:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 3/4/25 19:05, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    -hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 3/4/25 09:27, Scout wrote:

    <who cares about this dumbass?>

    The IRS call wait times averaged 28 minutes in the 2022 filing season,
    but after receiving Inflation Reduction Act funding dropped to just 3
    minutes.

    And it looks like the pre-CoVid wait times were previously over an hour:

    <https://callenq.com/blog/irs-hold-times-disconnect-data-10k/>

    Hmmm...does that mean that simply allowing work-from-home cut customer
    times in half?

    What's odd (or, actually expected, from the "management class") is thinking that the results and reports that were required by employees in the office somehow disappear because the employee is not in the office.

    There's a management fear that a lack of in-person supervision
    marginalizes and thus puts their own job in jeopardy. I've seen some leash-holding of workers which supports such 'fear' in action.

    But this has already been a supervision challenge for decades even with "management by walking around" in fields where there's a high degree of knowledge worker skills: its hard to gage productivity between major
    milestone deliverables ... the classical example of how one just can't
    firmly schedule when a scientific breakthrough will occur, etc.


    Before I retired, our local corporate office, with the blessing of headquarters, due to the pressure of COVID-19, had us working from home.
    The fancy local office building were essentially empty, except for people who need to pack up products in the warehouse to send to customers.

    Similar here; I recall having one of my teams where they could do ~50%+
    of the developmental work from home, and then periodically came into the
    lab (~2x/week) to "plug in" the new routines into the gear and do test
    runs. Rewrites/fix code & procedures where they weren't in an immediate build-test-fix troubleshooting didn't need to be on-site either. I
    think we did something like 60 or 70 new test routine setups, and ended
    up completing them ahead of the pre-CoVid delivery schedule's deadlines.


    The rest of us worked fine remotely, and we interacted with other employees spread across the country, and with the customer located on the other coast.

    Same ... and we found that the change from physical IPT meetings to
    virtual ones actually increased productivity, because larger IPT meeting agendas often had a lot of "wait/standby" and we learned that you could
    'cheat' with multi-screens to be doing other stuff while waiting for
    your responsible section on the agenda. Also, the time-between-meetings
    could be compressed because of zero physical travel time between
    meetings. Plus there were instances where one could cover
    double-bookings: someone who needed to be in 2 places at once could be
    VM'ed into Meeting A and when Meeting B needed them, they'd PM them:
    they'd drop A and transfer to join Meeting B, usually within a minute or
    two.

    TL;DR: net result was *higher* productivity.

    In fact, a number of things, like accessing project plans and documents, required remote access.

    Cynically, I expect idiocy from the "management class".

    Its also why I pointedly ask if the entity pushing for RTO has any conflict-of-interest, such as being the landlord renting the space who
    benefits from not having their rental contract dropped.

    And the real shame of all of this is that we've had ~4.5 years to have
    upgraded office HVAC infrastructures to make for a healthier workspace
    that decreases risk of viral/bacterial transmissions ..

    .. not just for CoVid but also stuff like Legionnaire's, which still
    remains a known problem, and for which the procedures remain a pretty
    weak band-aid.

    But for wherever dumb-ass reason, no Fed agency was willing/able to
    publish updated air quality standards. My guess is that its probably
    because it would also apply to every public buildings too, especially
    schools.


    -hh

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 8 23:37:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <XnsB29580BC3D9C5629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in
    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in
    P. Coonan wrote:
    ⤽Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees >>>>>>> do not deserve their paychecks, and these are jobs that can be
    fired at will,⤝ she claimed during a hearing of the House of
    Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
    Some do some don't.

    The federal workers on the Committee on Oversight and Government
    Reform do not.

    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out from complaining that
    government is too big and cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is
    only one line open at the Post Office and why aren't
    there more people working there.

    It's the job of the Republican Congress to starve government agencies
    of necessary funds so that they can give the oligarchs their massive
    tax breaks, while using the resulting poor services as a pretext for
    disbanding those agencies and giving the functions to these same
    oligarchs.

    You still get poor service but it costs more. :-D

    Economy starts at home - let's see
    Trump sell off Air Force One, take
    fewer golf trips, let him pay for his
    own security detail, pay for his own
    Superbowl parties and trips.

    Why? None of the others did.


    They weren't billionairs.

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