• Fed up with homelessness, an OC city cracks down

    From Leroy N. Soetoro@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 12 00:47:19 2025
    XPost: alt.society.homeless, oc.general, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/fullerton-cracks-down-on- homelessness

    Fullerton is the latest Southern California city to beef up its anti-
    camping and loitering laws in the wake of last year’s Supreme Court
    decision giving local governments a green light to crack down on homeless encampments.

    The Fullerton City Council voted 3-2 at its Tuesday night meeting to make
    it illegal to lie down on a bus bench, sit on a sidewalk, or put your bag
    down on a median — just a few among a detailed list of other prohibited activities in public spaces.

    What’s the big picture?
    Fullerton follows more than two dozen California cities that have embraced anti-camping laws since a major Supreme Court decision last summer. That decision, in the case Grants Pass v. Johnson, reversed a lower court that
    had determined people could not be criminalized for sleeping on the street
    if there was no available shelter.

    The local context
    Homelessness has been a particularly fraught issue in Fullerton for
    decades, largely as a result of a high-profile beating of an unhoused man
    by local police in 2011. The man, Kelly Thomas, died and his parents were awarded multi-million dollar settlements. But the officers involved were ultimately not found criminally responsible.

    Fullerton was also among more than a dozen cities to settle a lawsuit back
    in 2019 that required them to increase shelter space and offer services to unhoused people before arresting them. Many advocates for the unhoused see
    the current trend of tightening anti-camping enforcement, in the wake of
    the Supreme Court decision, as a reversal of that progress.

    What did Fullerton council members say?
    Supporters said the new law was necessary to ensure public safety and
    access to public spaces. Opponents of the new law said it was overly broad
    and unlikely to decrease the number of unhoused people sleeping outside.

    “I think it leaves a lot open to interpretation and profiling,”
    Councilmember Ahmad Zahra told LAist.

    What’s next?
    Fullerton’s police chief said officers would continue to offer services to unhoused people before citing or arresting them. Zahra and several other
    City Council members said they hoped to expand the city’s motel voucher
    program — the city’s alternative to a cold weather shelter — beyond its
    current targeted population of families and seniors.


    --
    November 5, 2024 - Congratulations President Donald Trump. We look
    forward to America being great again.

    The disease known as Kamala Harris has been effectively treated and
    eradicated.

    We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so that
    stupid people won't be offended.

    Durham Report: The FBI has an integrity problem. It has none.

    Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden
    fiasco, President Trump.

    Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
    The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood
    queer liberal democrat donors.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Wed Mar 12 01:58:39 2025
    XPost: alt.society.homeless, oc.general, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    "Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote in news:lnsB29FB4F4317D86F089P2473@0.0.0.2:

    https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/fullerton-cracks-down-on- homelessness

    Fullerton is the latest Southern California city to beef up its anti-
    camping and loitering laws in the wake of last year’s Supreme Court
    decision giving local governments a green light to crack down on
    homeless encampments.

    The Fullerton City Council voted 3-2 at its Tuesday night meeting to
    make it illegal to lie down on a bus bench, sit on a sidewalk, or put
    your bag down on a median — just a few among a detailed list of other prohibited activities in public spaces.

    What’s the big picture?
    Fullerton follows more than two dozen California cities that have
    embraced anti-camping laws since a major Supreme Court decision last
    summer. That decision, in the case Grants Pass v. Johnson, reversed a
    lower court that had determined people could not be criminalized for
    sleeping on the street if there was no available shelter.


    So, let's make it a crime to sleep on sidewalks.

    Arrest the offenders!

    So now the jail is full of homeless people
    who need to be fed and housed at public expense.

    And of course the offenders will have to
    put on trial for their offense, at public
    expense.

    And if they are convicted they will be
    sentenced to jail, also at public expense.

    And the public benefits from this how, again?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Tue Mar 11 19:22:06 2025
    XPost: alt.society.homeless, oc.general, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    The Fullerton City Council voted 3-2 at its Tuesday night meeting to make
    it illegal to lie down on a bus bench, sit on a sidewalk, or put your bag down on a median — just a few among a detailed list of other prohibited activities in public spaces.


    I sit in a traffic lane to change a bicycle tire.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Seven Steps@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Tue Mar 11 22:50:33 2025
    XPost: alt.society.homeless, oc.general, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 3/11/2025 7:22 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    The Fullerton City Council voted 3-2 at its Tuesday night meeting to make
    it illegal to lie down on a bus bench, sit on a sidewalk, or put your bag
    down on a median — just a few among a detailed list of other prohibited
    activities in public spaces.


    I sit in a traffic lane to change a bicycle tire.

    If you really did that in California, you would not be here. You'd be a
    smear on the pavement.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)