• Climate Misinformation from the United Nations

    From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 19 22:56:49 2025
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    I was speaking to a non-US non-climate beat reporter yesterday about
    undeniable issues of scientific integrity in climate science and he asked
    a question about the climate science community that got my attention:

    “And no one cares? Aren’t scientists supposed to care about such things?” Lapses of scientific integrity in climate science have become normalized.
    I no longer expect the community to care about obvious and egregious
    problems in climate science, even when documented in the peer reviewed literature. The community’s willful blindness has had a long time to
    develop muscle memory — More than 15 years ago I documented how the IPCC falsified a graph on disasters and climate change, inserted it into the
    IPCC assessment, and then lied about it when called out. No one cared then either.

    A few weeks Sveriges Radio (Swedish public radio) released an English
    language version of its outstanding investigation into multiple
    exaggerations and falsehoods about climate change that have been promoted
    by the United Nations. Props to Swedish journalist Ola Sandstig and
    Sveriges Radio for conducting the investigation — they obviously care.

    False claims and bad science are endemic to discussions of climate, but
    they should not come from the UN, which is the parent organization of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), whose job it is to call things straight on climate science. The climate science community should
    care that the UN has been systematically misrepresenting climate science, because it could affect how the IPCC is viewed, fairly or unfairly.

    The Swedish investigation documented four false claims promoted by the UN. Let’s take a look at each.

    1 – Samoan Sea Level Rise Misinformation

    In what can only be described as propaganda, UN Secretary General António Guterres visited Samoa last year and filmed a video in front of an
    abandoned house, which he claimed was abandoned due to sea level rise and increasing storms:

    “Those who lived in these houses had to move their homes further inland because of sea level rise and the multiplication of storms. Sea level rise
    is accelerating. It is now the double of what it was in the 90s. If we are
    not able to stop what is happening with climate change, the problem that
    we see in Samoa will not stay in Samoa.”
    Ola Sandstig, the Swedish journalist, tracked down those who had abandoned
    the house in 2009, and found that they had actually left the home
    following the 2009 earthquake and tsunami, and not sea level rise or
    storms. Earthquakes and tsunamis have nothing to do with climate change.

    There has been no increase in the frequency or intensity of tropical
    cyclones in the Western South Pacific (or, the entire planet, for that
    matter). In fact, in 2009 when the house was abandoned following the
    tsunami, the region was in a bit of a tropical cyclone lull.

    Relative sea level rise has accelerated in Samoa. But that also has
    nothing to do with climate change, but rather, increased subsidence
    following the 2009 earthquake.

    The reasons for the accelerated relative sea level rise are well
    understood, such as documented in Han et al. 2019:

    The islands entered a new era of exacerbated (3–6 times faster) relative
    sea level rise due to continuous land subsidence after the 2009
    earthquakes.
    UN Secretary General Guterres’ Samoan photo op and press release can only
    be described as an intential effort to mislead.

    2 – A UN Correction — 1.7 million children die each year from climate
    change
    Thanks to the Swedish Radio investigation, Swedish UNICEF corrected a
    false claim that it had previously been promoting — that 1.7 million
    children die each year due to climate change. Swedish Radio explains:

    1.7 million children under the age of five die each year from climate
    change. Swedish UNICEF has had this figure on their website since 2019-09-
    27. It was removed after the Swedish version of the program in the fall of 2024. The article now states: ‘In a previous version of the article, it
    was stated that 1.7 million children die from climate change. This is incorrect, the figure refers to environmental factors such as air
    pollution and dirty water.’
    Mistakes happen what matters is what happens after they are identified.
    Swedish UNICEF shows how easy it is to correct false claims.

    3 – A mythical number — Women and children are 14x more than men to die
    due to a climate disaster

    Source: UNDP, accessed 5 March 2025.
    The 14x number has been around for decades and is found across UN organizations. Swedish Radio explains:

    Women and children are 14 times more likely than men to die in a disaster
    / Women are 14 times more likely than men to die in a disaster. These
    figures appear on the following UN agencies/websites: UN main page, UN
    Women, UNDP, UNDRR, UNESCO, UN, FAO, IUCN.
    The claim is false, and others have pointed this out as well. In 2014,
    Henrik Urdal of the Peace Research Institute Oslo asked of the false
    claim, “Is it Acceptable to Lie for a Good Cause?”. He expalined where the false number came from (ironically, the University of Colorado Boulder):

    The claim that women and children are up to 14 times more likely than men
    to die in a disaster is a classic example of a ‘mythical number’. It took
    fewer than five minutes to find and cross-check the source. Save the
    Children was citing a report published by Plan International in 2013. Both
    Save the Children and Plan refer to what at first glance seems to be to an article published in a research periodical, Natural Hazards Observer, in
    1997. The article turns out, however, to be a two-page opinion piece
    authored by a pastor associated with Church World Service, a US ecumenical organization. Pastor Kristina Peterson does not provide any sources to
    back up her claim.
    Swedish Radio tracked down Pastor Peterson in Lousiana, who expressed
    surprise that her undocumented claim from 1997 was making the rounds as scientific fact in 2024. Ola Sandstig contacted the UN for comment, and received no response.

    4 – Too good not to be true — The number of weather disasters has
    fivefolded since the 1970s.
    The claim that disasters have increased by a factor of five over the past
    half century comes from the World Meteorological Organizaion (WMO) whch misrepresented the EM-DAT dataset, something longtime THB readers will be familiar with. The WMO report promoting the false claim was titled,
    ironically enough, United in Science.

    The increase in disasters in the EM-Dat dataset from the 1970s results
    entirely from improved reporting of disasters from the 1970s to the 2000s. Since 2000 there has been no increase in reported disasters, as you’ll see below.

    Swedish Radio interviewed Deborati Guha-Sapir, who oversaw the EM-DAT
    database in Belgium for decades, and I have transcribed her responses at
    length here:

    Reporting has improved in the sense that in a statistically misleading
    way because as communications becomes cheaper, easier, and now it is
    almost free and people are traveling a lot more you get much more reports
    of events as you can imagine. That may have happened before as well but we
    just didn’t get the reports . . . You can actually argue that climate
    disasters or natural disasters have not actually substantially increased
    but the reporting has been much, much easier, much better, much quicker .
    . . What can I say? I do think it is misleading and there is no point in misleading your audience, and to not underestimate the intelligence of
    your audience. Tell people the truth. People will understand . . . People
    like a number and the more spectacular the better. All this behind the
    scenes explanation that says “Oh, better reporting” nobody is interested
    in that. It’s boring. If we show that actually the number of disasters
    are not increasing two things happen. One is people say “how can this be, everyone says disasters are increasing” and Guha-Sapir is coming and
    saying “They are not increasing.” There is no evidence, no data. I am not saying they are not, I’m just saying our data doesn’t show it . . . I
    think there a risk, credibility and trustworthiness of the data is
    dependent entirely on the quality and the accuracy of the data you
    provide. And if you are unable to maintain that, you are going to bring
    the whole thing down like a house of cards, because people won’t believe
    what you are saying any more . . .
    Guha-Sapir states what should be obvious:

    What really needs to be done is to be fair and accurate in your data and
    speak as good of scientific truth that you can.
    Ola Sandstig was able to get a response from a UN official, who appeared
    to blame the misinformation on people who do not understand the data and
    not the false claims from the UN and WMO:

    When you have this type of information there is this tendency to rushing
    to the striking pieces and the background information may be omitted by
    some people. Maybe some communicators or whatever don’t really appreciate
    the components that build the trend, but I’m telling you we are taking it seriously and we want to address the challenge here.
    If the UN is taking the misinformation seriously, it is difficult to tell
    — The UN is using the misleading data to project a significant increase in global disasters to 2030, as you can see below.

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    Below is what the latest EM-DAT time series looks like since 2000, when reporting is believed to have become globally reliable. EM-DAT still needs
    to be used with caution. Reminder: If you want to look for trends in
    extreme weather, look directly at weather and climate data, not data on disasters.

    https://static-asset.amac.us/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/07110737/2f771be6- 31b6-4d04-9059-1e4b38611ae1_992x492.jpg

    Graph created by Matthew Wielicki on X/Twitter. Note that how EM-DAT
    treats temperature-related deaths is not consistent across the time
    series, which may result in a upwards bias in recent years — See this post
    for discussion. You can explore this data at Our World in Data.
    Bottom Line
    The climate science community has a poor track record of addressing misinformation associated with those promoting climate change as a
    political agenda. This has been called noble cause corruption. If the
    United Nations is among those promoting such misinformation, we should not
    be surprised if the credibility of IPCC — which sits under the UN —
    becomes called into question, fairly or unfairly.

    Does anybody actually care?

    You can listen to the Swedish Radio report in English here — highly recommended, excellent and rare reporting on climate.

    https://www.sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/the-climate-disaster-united-nations- and-the-overstatements

    https://amac.us/newsline/society/climate-misinformation-from-the-united- nations/

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to P. Coonan on Thu Mar 20 01:45:12 2025
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    P. Coonan wrote:
    I was speaking to a non-US non-climate beat reporter yesterday about undeniable issues of scientific integrity in climate science and he asked
    a question about the climate science community that got my attention:


    i wouldnt take anything the UN says seriously.

    the grain of salt is planck scale.

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