• Re: Gen Z workers increasingly opt out of college and into the trades:

    From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to useapen on Fri May 2 13:13:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri May 2 09:32:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go. There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures. I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of thing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Fri May 2 13:47:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?



    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.


    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri May 2 09:59:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?

    Who ever said it wasn't important? If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth. Not sure what your point is.


    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt
    forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example. Maybe try reading and listening to what he has
    to say instead of simply being on auto-pilot against it.























    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to useapen on Fri May 2 08:14:49 2025
    XPost: alt.trades, alt.business, alt.trump.is.a.filthy.lying.insurrectionist.and.rapist.and.shitbag
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    [Nazi filth newsgroups alt.politics.trump and alt.politics.republicans removed]

    On 5/1/2025 11:26 PM, useapen wrote:
    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and

    No one "graduates high school." In this context, it is an intransitive verb that
    requires a preposition: "As members of Gen Z continue to graduate *from* high school..."

    Why are all right-wingnuts in Usenet functionally illiterate?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Fri May 2 17:53:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2j4h$12o2e$6@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?

    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.



    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?




    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"



    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt
    forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of
    thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example.


    Of what?



    Maybe try reading and listening to what he has
    to say instead of simply being on auto-pilot against it.


    Read his book. He praises hard work,
    he doesn't praise ignorance.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri May 2 14:23:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/2/2025 1:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2j4h$12o2e$6@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?

    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.

    Sure, once you answer mine.



    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?

    I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise is
    faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.




    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"

    Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.



    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt
    forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of
    thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example.


    Of what?

    Of negating the perception that the only way to 'make it' is by getting
    a college degree. There is no one more on the forefront of articulating
    the value of the trades, and that they can be tickets to a very good
    living. Furthermore, he does quite a bit to dispell the stigma of
    foregoing a college degree. Go read some of this -
    https://mikeroweworks.org/. It's fantastic what he's doing.



    Maybe try reading and listening to what he has
    to say instead of simply being on auto-pilot against it.


    Read his book. He praises hard work,
    he doesn't praise ignorance.








    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 12:54:21 2025
    XPost: alt.trades, alt.business, alt.trump.is.a.filthy.lying.insurrectionist.and.rapist.and.shitbag
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    [Nazi filth newsgroups alt.politics.trump and alt.politics.republicans removed]

    On 5/2/2025 12:32 PM, spammy, do-nothing subhuman Nazi filth, bullshitted:
    On 5/2/2025 8:14 AM, J Carlson wrote:
    [Nazi filth newsgroups alt.politics.trump and alt.politics.republicans removed]

    On 5/1/2025 11:26 PM, useapen wrote:
    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and

    No one "graduates high school." In this context, it is an intransitive verb >> that requires a preposition: "As members of Gen Z continue to graduate *from*
    high school..."

    If you want to be that anal about it, it's actually a 3rd person present / informal verb.

    There is no such thing as an "informal" verb, you stupid fucktard. What it is is
    a non-standard, illiterate usage.


    Why are all right-wingnuts in Usenet functionally illiterate?

    They do it on purpose

    No, it's not on purpose, spammy. They can't help it. Being stupid and illiterate
    is just their natural state.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Sat May 3 01:59:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv32iv$1ei44$2@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 1:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2j4h$12o2e$6@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?


    Well?


    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
    that higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?


    Well?


    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.

    Sure, once you answer mine.


    I asked first.





    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?

    I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise is faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.


    Then why do all conservative politicians
    get a college education? AND make sure their
    children get one.....





    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"

    Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.



    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan
    debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind
    of
    thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example.


    Of what?

    Of negating the perception that the only way to 'make it' is by
    getting a college degree.


    What do you mean by "make it"?



    There is no one more on the forefront of
    articulating the value of the trades, and that they can be tickets to
    a very good living.


    Rowe preaches the value of hard
    work, not ignorance. Even he got a college
    degree.


    Furthermore, he does quite a bit to dispell the
    stigma of foregoing a college degree. Go read some of this - https://mikeroweworks.org/. It's fantastic what he's doing.


    What "stigma"?




    Maybe try reading and listening to what he has
    to say instead of simply being on auto-pilot against it.


    Read his book. He praises hard work,
    he doesn't praise ignorance.










    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat May 3 08:38:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/2/2025 9:59 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv32iv$1ei44$2@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 1:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2j4h$12o2e$6@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter >>>>>>>> adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?


    Well?


    Limits?

    Well?

    Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
    that higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?


    Well?

    Well, what?


    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.

    Sure, once you answer mine.


    I asked first.

    No, I asked first. Go back and review.





    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?

    I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise is
    faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.


    Then why do all conservative politicians
    get a college education? AND make sure their
    children get one.....

    They don't.





    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"

    Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.



    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan
    debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind
    of
    thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example.


    Of what?

    Of negating the perception that the only way to 'make it' is by
    getting a college degree.


    What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.



    There is no one more on the forefront of
    articulating the value of the trades, and that they can be tickets to
    a very good living.


    Rowe preaches the value of hard
    work, not ignorance.

    Yes, like not pursuing worthless degrees and taking out loans that you
    can't afford.

    Even he got a college
    degree.

    Yeah, and?


    Furthermore, he does quite a bit to dispell the
    stigma of foregoing a college degree. Go read some of this -
    https://mikeroweworks.org/. It's fantastic what he's doing.


    What "stigma"?

    The stigma of doing manual labor as opposed to sitting behind a desk, compliments of a college degree. You know this.




    Maybe try reading and listening to what he has
    to say instead of simply being on auto-pilot against it.


    Read his book. He praises hard work,
    he doesn't praise ignorance.











    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Yak on Sat May 3 14:09:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 2025-05-02, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?

    Who ever said it wasn't important? If I want to be a physician, it's important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth. Not sure what your point is.


    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt
    forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example. Maybe try reading and listening to what he has
    to say instead of simply being on auto-pilot against it.

    Left it to a Nimrod like Hollow to somehow make this a republican vs democrat issue.

    His TDS is getting worse.


    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
    Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Sat May 3 13:41:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv52nj$3hjdb$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:59 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv32iv$1ei44$2@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 1:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2j4h$12o2e$6@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter >>>>>>>>> adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?


    Well?


    Limits?

    Well?

    Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
    that higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?


    Well?

    Well, what?


    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.

    Sure, once you answer mine.


    I asked first.

    No, I asked first. Go back and review.





    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?

    I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise
    is
    faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.


    Then why do all conservative politicians
    get a college education? AND make sure their
    children get one.....

    They don't.


    Name a Republican Congressman or governor
    without a college degree.



    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"

    Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.



    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan
    debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind >>>>>>> of
    thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example.


    Of what?

    Of negating the perception that the only way to 'make it' is by
    getting a college degree.


    What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.


    Who said that?

    Bill Gates got by fine without a college
    degree. So did Steve Jobs and Steven Spielberg and
    Mark Zuckerberg and Harry Truman and Dick Cheney
    and Kany West and Michael Dell and Frank Lloyd
    Wright.





    There is no one more on the forefront of
    articulating the value of the trades, and that they can be tickets to
    a very good living.


    Rowe preaches the value of hard
    work, not ignorance.

    Yes, like not pursuing worthless degrees and taking out loans that you
    can't afford.


    No degree is worthless. No education is
    worthless. If you invest in your education
    that is your choice. Why do you hate education?



    Even he got a college
    degree.

    Yeah, and?


    So why did you cite him as proof
    you don't need a college degree?



    Furthermore, he does quite a bit to dispell the
    stigma of foregoing a college degree. Go read some of this -
    https://mikeroweworks.org/. It's fantastic what he's doing.


    What "stigma"?

    The stigma of doing manual labor as opposed to sitting behind a desk, compliments of a college degree. You know this.


    College degrees don't prevent anyone
    from doing manual labor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat May 3 10:22:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/2/2025 6:59 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:


    On 5/2/2025 1:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:


    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:


    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter >>>>>>>> adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.



    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?


    Well?


    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
    that higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?


    Well?


    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.

    Sure, once you answer mine.


    I asked first.





    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?

    I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise is
    faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.


    Then why do all conservative politicians
    get a college education? AND make sure their
    children get one.....

    And *not* from that atrocious academic backwater and propaganda mill Hillsdale College.






    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.


    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"

    Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.

    High salary leads to high wealth.

    --
    Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon May 5 01:28:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:kkvf1k50fhso726hsef2g5m8ape2ptkfbe@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 09:32:20 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote
    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
    adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.
    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?

    Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
    higher education is the only way to go.

    Yes, it is a stupid stigma and now you know how everybody else feels
    around *you*.

    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures. I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt >>forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of thing.

    I have yet to hear from any of them on the value of education in any
    form. Perhaps it's because of the stigma *they* believe. /s

    Or maybe because it doesn't take four to eight years of education to
    become a plumber.

    America *is* the working people. They do the actual work.

    The "elite" went to university and made it.

    The "Joes" went to university and flopped.

    Now some Joe and Mrs and their 2.5 children are in debt for ninety
    thousand dollars.

    Wanna help?



    The Project 2025ers want education to be
    the monopoly of the wealthy, just like it was
    300 years ago. In fact they want EVERYTHING to
    be just like it was 300 years ago.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon May 5 01:29:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:a52g1k5k9uq90ei82adsnpu25atbsh58mr@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 02 May 2025 13:47:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
    wrote:

    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?

    All of them?


    All that I can find.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon May 5 08:27:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/4/2025 9:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 08:38:10 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.

    It is *an* answer. Not the only one.

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

    Absolutely.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon May 5 08:27:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/3/2025 9:41 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv52nj$3hjdb$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:59 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv32iv$1ei44$2@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 1:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2j4h$12o2e$6@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:47 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vv2hh4$12o2e$4@dont-email.me:

    On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
    news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:

    As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter >>>>>>>>>> adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees. >>>>>>>>>>


    Funny that conservative politicians
    all send THEIR darlings to college. And
    elite private colleges at that.

    Perhaps they know the limits of a
    high school education better than you?


    Well?


    Limits?

    Well?

    Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
    that higher education is the only way to go.


    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?


    Well?

    Well, what?


    Who ever said it wasn't important?


    Just answer the question.

    Sure, once you answer mine.


    I asked first.

    No, I asked first. Go back and review.





    If I want to be a physician, it's
    important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.



    Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?

    I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise
    is
    faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.


    Then why do all conservative politicians
    get a college education? AND make sure their
    children get one.....

    They don't.


    Name a Republican Congressman or governor
    without a college degree.

    Lauren Bobert, Jerry Carl, Madison Cawthorn, Matt Rosendale, Steve King,
    Doc Hastings, Lloyd Smucker, Markwayne Mullin, Rand Paul (no undergrad
    degree).



    There are plenty high school
    graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures. >>>>>>>

    Wealth is not the goal of education.

    I never said anything about wealth.


    Your quote:

    "....making 6-figures"

    Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.



    I have
    yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan >>>>>>>> debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind >>>>>>>> of
    thing.


    Mike Rowe?

    Yes, Mike Rowe.

    College graduate Mike Rowe?

    Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.

    HE is your example of why kids
    shouldn't go to college?

    He is the best example.


    Of what?

    Of negating the perception that the only way to 'make it' is by
    getting a college degree.


    What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.


    Who said that?

    Bill Gates got by fine without a college
    degree. So did Steve Jobs and Steven Spielberg and
    Mark Zuckerberg and Harry Truman and Dick Cheney
    and Kany West and Michael Dell and Frank Lloyd
    Wright.

    Of course, which proves my point.






    There is no one more on the forefront of
    articulating the value of the trades, and that they can be tickets to
    a very good living.


    Rowe preaches the value of hard
    work, not ignorance.

    Yes, like not pursuing worthless degrees and taking out loans that you
    can't afford.


    No degree is worthless.

    It is when you whine that you can't repay the debt you willingly took on.

    No education is
    worthless. If you invest in your education
    that is your choice. Why do you hate education?

    Projection noted.



    Even he got a college
    degree.

    Yeah, and?


    So why did you cite him as proof
    you don't need a college degree?

    I already explained why. Furthermore, If you took the time to go check
    out his site it would be so crystal clear that even you could figure it out.



    Furthermore, he does quite a bit to dispell the
    stigma of foregoing a college degree. Go read some of this -
    https://mikeroweworks.org/. It's fantastic what he's doing.


    What "stigma"?

    The stigma of doing manual labor as opposed to sitting behind a desk,
    compliments of a college degree. You know this.


    College degrees don't prevent anyone
    from doing manual labor.

    I never sait it did.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 11:53:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/5/2025 5:27 AM, Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:

    On 5/4/2025 9:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 08:38:10 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

           What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.

    It is *an* answer.  Not the only one.

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

    Absolutely.
    And absolutely wrong to do, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker.

    --
    MAGA is always wrong – *always*

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Mon May 5 15:18:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/5/2025 2:53 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 5:27 AM, Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass
    by priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:

    On 5/4/2025 9:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 08:38:10 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

           What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.

    It is *an* answer.  Not the only one.

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

    Absolutely.
    And absolutely wrong to do, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker.


    You fucking midget retard, you don't even know what you're replying to.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 14:37:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 5/5/2025 12:18 PM, Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:

    On 5/5/2025 2:53 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 5:27 AM, Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by >> priests hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:

    On 5/4/2025 9:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 08:38:10 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

           What do you mean by "make it"?

    That a college degree is the answer to a lucrative life.

    It is *an* answer.  Not the only one.

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

    Absolutely.
    And absolutely wrong to do, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker.


    You magnificent brilliant man, you don't even know what you're replying to.

    I know full fucking well what I'm replying to, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker. *You* want to repeal the amendments after the 12th as well, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker, and that would be both bad and wrong. You
    want to reauthorize slavery, allow states to deny citizenship, abridge due process and equal protection, deny the vote based on race or color, and allow corrupt legislatures to sell U.S. senate seats. Fuck you and fuck and kill everyone in your family, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker.

    --
    Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue May 6 06:42:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 05 May 2025 01:29:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
    wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:a52g1k5k9uq90ei82adsnpu25atbsh58mr@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 02 May 2025 13:47:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
    wrote:

    If a college degree isn't important
    why do all conservative politicians have
    one?

    All of them?


    All that I can find.

    Yak posted this list of Republicans without degrees.

    "Lauren Bobert, Jerry Carl, Madison Cawthorn, Matt Rosendale, Steve
    King, Doc Hastings, Lloyd Smucker, Markwayne Mullin, Rand Paul (no
    undergrad degree)." ^
    |
    |
    With a name like Smucker, he's got to be good! :-D

    It might be different these days, but one of the great things I found about going to college and grad schools was access to good or great libraries.
    And since I did work-study work in the library at all three schools,
    I stumbled across a lot of interesting books.

    --
    "Out of register space (ugh)"
    -- vi

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)