• Re: It Sure Looks Like the DNC May Have Had Enough of David Hogg's Anti

    From Radio Gnome@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 09:44:27 2025
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    On 5/2/2025 9:39 AM, % wrote:
    Miami Nights wrote:
    As we've been covering, David Hogg, a vice chairman of the DNC, has found
    himself making headlines with how he's helping to plunge Democrats into
    disarray, given that he's launched a $20 million primary initiative
    against certain Democratic incumbents. The effort has been news for a
    week, and Hogg has received criticism from veteran Democratic strategist
    James Carville, as well as former DNC and RNC chairs. The current DNC
    leadership now looks to be finally gearing up to take action.

    On Wednesday night, POLITICO, which has been covering Hogg's initiative,
    reported that DNC Chairman Ken Martin was expected to announce during a
    Thursday morning member call that DNC officers are to stay neutral in all
    primaries.

    As the report began:

    The Democratic National Committee is going to force David Hogg to decide:
    Get out of the primary game or lose his DNC post.

    During a member call on Thursday, DNC Chair Ken Martin is expected to
    announce a proposal to change the party’s rules to mandate all DNC
    officers stay neutral in all Democratic primaries, according to a person
    directly familiar with the plan and granted anonymity to describe private
    discussions. The move comes after Hogg pledged last week to spend
    millions
    of dollars funding challenges to “asleep-at-the-wheel” Democrats in
    primaries, igniting a firestorm inside the DNC.

    The proposal, if passed at the DNC’s August meeting, would effectively
    force Hogg to decide whether to step away from his DNC vice chair
    position
    or wall himself off from the group he co-founded, Leaders We Deserve,
    which has pledged to spend $20 million on challenging Democratic
    incumbents in safe blue seats.

    It looks like Hogg is indeed willing to lose his role, as the report goes
    on to mention. "Hogg said in an interview last week that he would 'fight
    to remain in this position,' though he told at least two Democrats that
    he’s willing to lose his vice chair position through this process,"
    POLITICO also mentioned.

    NOTUS, which reported on the call even earlier on Wednesday, highlighted
    even more in a lengthy article, including details which show how
    Democrats
    certainly look to be in disarray.

    Reporting from Thursday afternoon, including from NBC News, spoke to how
    that in fact did take place during the morning call, and how it
    relates to
    prior issues for the DNC, as well as what the chairman himself ran on:

    Democratic party leaders Thursday morning admonished officers to not take
    sides in primaries, addressing a situation involving activist and
    Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg.

    "Let me be unequivocal. No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence
    the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a
    challenger," DNC Chair Ken Martin said in a press call. "Voters should
    decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership. Our role is to
    serve as stewards of a fair, open and trusted process, not to tilt the
    scales."'

    As of now, however, the DNC does not have the power to remove Hogg if he
    refuses to stand down on funding primary challenges through a separate
    PAC
    — unless the body changes its rules, a senior DNC official told NBC News. >>
    “Under the present bylaws, there is no action that can be taken against
    David Hogg without changing to the bylaws to extend that policy of
    neutrality to all primaries," DNC Finance Chair Chris Korge told NBC
    News.
    "There is no codified, legal way to remove an officer for doing what
    David
    Hogg has done because it only extends to the presidential race."

    Korge said that, as of now, the situation is to be addressed at a future
    meeting, likely in August.

    Korge said he believed it was imperative for the body to formally change
    its bylaws because the party division the Hogg situation has caused
    harkens to an old ghost Democrats don't want to revisit.

    “It smells like 2016, when progressives said the DNC had it in the bag
    for
    Hillary Clinton," Korge said, referencing angst in the party that the DNC
    had its thumb on the scale to block Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., from the
    presidential nomination. "No party official, no officer of the DNC,
    should
    do anything that would result in the division that was created by the
    perception that existed back in 2016."

    On Thursday, Martin went on to say he had spoken to Hogg about what he
    perceived as a conflict but he did not expound on whether he gave him an
    ultimatum.

    "I understand what he's trying to do," Martin continued in the press
    call.
    "As I've said to him, 'If you want to challenge incumbents, you're more
    than free to do that. But just not as an officer of the DNC, because our
    job is to be a neutral arbiter. We can't be both the referee and also the
    player at the same time. You have to make a decision.'"

    In pushing back on Thursday, Hogg cited Trump's power clashes with
    institutions in saying the party needed to take more aggressive actions.
    He added that he had not violated any DNC bylaws.

    "They’re trying to change the rules because I'm not currently breaking
    them. As we’re seeing law firms, tech companies, and so many others
    bowing
    to Trump, we all must use whatever position of power we have to fight
    back. And that’s exactly what I'm doing," Hogg said in a statement.

    "The role of the DNC is to set the Presidential primary calendar, set the
    Presidential debate schedule, to help strengthen our state parties,
    play a
    key role in building our data infrastructure for the party, and to be the
    campaign in waiting for whoever the next Democratic nominee is. Nothing
    I'm doing is at odds with any of that," he added.



    Now the party is grappling with what to do with [Hogg].

    Martin and others on the call did not discuss what next steps they'd take
    with Hogg. And Hogg maintained in an interview with NBC News Thursday
    that
    he was not in violation of current bylaws.



    Jane Kleeb, a DNC vice chair and the president of the Association of
    State
    Democratic Committees, said she backed neutrality, and it was also
    something that Martin also ran on.

    Kleeb noted that enshrining DNC neutrality was something that Sanders
    "and
    many other Dems across the ideological spectrum have repeatedly asked us
    to codify into our bylaws."

    Get your popcorn ready, as the foulmouthed DNC vice chairman may be
    losing
    his post soon, though that's one more thing Democrats have to figure out.
    It's worth wondering why these rules weren't in place already.

    Former DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile and former RNC Chairman Reince
    Priebus
    both appeared alongside Hogg during a panel discussing for Sunday's
    episode of ABC News' "This Week," where they expressed issue with Hogg's
    initiatives. "I'd have you removed from the party," Priebus even said to
    Hogg, while Brazile had pointed out how Hogg's "in hot water with [DNC
    Chair] Ken [Martin]."

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/04/24/the-dnc-has-had-
    enough-of-david-hogg-n2656040

    so

    Even James Carville called out the little soy boy fag on national tv.

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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= division that was created by the perception that existed back in 2016."
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Thursday, Martin went on to say he had spoken to Hogg about what he
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= perceived as a conflict but he did not expound on whether he gave him an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ultimatum. "I understand what he's trying to do," Martin continued in
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the press call. "As I've said to him, 'If you want to challenge
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= incumbents, you're more than free to do that. But just not as an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= officer of the DNC, because our job is to be a neutral arbiter. We
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= can't be both the referee and also the player at the same time. You
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= have to make a decision.'" In pushing back on Thursday, Hogg cited
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Trump's power clashes with institutions in saying the party needed to
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= take more aggressive actions. He added that he had not violated any DNC
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= bylaws. "They’re trying to change the rules because I'm not currently
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= breaking them. As we’re seeing law firms, tech companies, and so many
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= others bowing to Trump, we all must use whatever position of power we
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= have to fight back. And that’s exactly what I'm doing," Hogg said in
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= a statement. "The role of the DNC is to set the Presidential primary
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= calendar, set the Presidential debate schedule, to help strengthen our
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= state parties, play a key role in building our data infrastructure for
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the party, and to be the campaign in waiting for whoever the next
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Democratic nominee is. Nothing I'm doing is at odds with any of that,"
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= he added. … Now the party is grappling with what to do with [Hogg].
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Martin and others on the call did not discuss what next steps they'd
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= take with Hogg. And Hogg maintained in an interview with NBC News
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Thursday that he was not in violation of current bylaws. … Jane
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Kleeb, a DNC vice chair and the president of the Association of State
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Democratic Committees, said she backed neutrality, and it was also
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= something that Martin also ran on. Kleeb noted that enshrining DNC
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= neutrality was something that Sanders "and many other Dems across the
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ideological spectrum have repeatedly asked us to codify into our
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= bylaws." Get your popcorn ready, as the foulmouthed DNC vice chairman
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= may be losing his post soon, though that's one more thing Democrats
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= have to figure out. It's worth wondering why these rules weren't in
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= place already. Former DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile and former RNC
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Chairman Reince Priebus both appeared alongside Hogg during a panel
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= discussing for Sunday's episode of ABC News' "This Week," where they
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= expressed issue with Hogg's initiatives. "I'd have you removed from the
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= party," Priebus even said to Hogg, while Brazile had pointed out how
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Hogg's "in hot water with [DNC Chair] Ken [Martin]."
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/04/24/the-dnc-has-had-
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= enough-of-david-hogg-n2656040
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= so =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Even James Carville called out the little soy boy fag on national tv.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    Are you the most manly man evar?

    --

    "I am not a "hetero cismale"." - Steve K. Hall in <1r5hu1f.z02fkr1t8gjr5N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

    "Claiming that I "refuse to respect pronouns" is dead wrong. I respect them with everyone but "Jen" and "their" ilk, because "they" are a phony." - Scott Doty AKA Creon AKA Vallor AKA Doc Hammerhead declares why he ironically reserves the "right" to
    misgender others just like his MAGA bigot cohorts are wont to in Message-ID: <l54g7pF27huU2@mid.individual.net>


    Message-ID: <nistjjhili8963p9l65oi962r3p4mktej5@4ax.com>
    " And yet, one can still see the headers.
    If you weren't so stupid, you would know how. I will try, and
    likely fail, to dumb it down to your intellectual level.
    To the right of the post there are three dots. Click on them. A
    few options will appear. Click on "Show original message" and follow
    the instructions as best your learning disability will permit.
    If you still can't see the headers, there is nothing more I can
    do. I cannot dumb this down any more than I have." - Kenito Wills, stupider than shit-stupid. (See: https://ibb.co/MVsRGqN)

    "It's just like you to read all that, and come up a sick and clueless response like that one, totally unrelated to the point. It must get confusing to be intelligent enough to "sit at the best reading table in school," and fail to cobble together a
    basic understanding of what you've just read. The nasty side of you always manages to take control to guard your fragile ego, which explains why you never get along with people, and get visitors like Red Elephant who take the time and trouble to come by
    and embarrass you..." - <MPG.41696ec8ecc18ea4989796@usnews.blocknews.net> Jimbo responds to a yes/no question exactly as one might expect him to.

    "Bullshit! You salivate over every word I write, then beg for more. Then when you realize that I've put you in another hole you can't worm your way out of... even if you did "sit at the best reading table in elementary school," YOU revert to pedo lames,
    because that's the best you can do. In fact, no one here has any interest in your obsession with pedo lames but you, because you're intellectually weak. In fact, you seem suspiciously obsessed with that topic. Maybe some day we'll find out why." - <
    MPG.4169de194a070345989798@usnews.blocknews.net> No Jim, I am not "obsessed" with what you did and concealed and continue to backpedal from.

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/6FaoS9bawDI/m/Wdupq7BHaSkJ
    "I've spoken against CPS many times. That I realize that they were 100% correct in regards to you doesn't mean I'm pro-CPS." - Kent Wills doesn't like Child Protection Services getting in his way of abusing children.

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/AmluvRraNjg/m/gufYNdgK3E8J
    "Greg has made it very clear he likes little girls. And not in a sexually healthy way." - Kent Wills believes that there's a "sexually healthy" way to be a pedophile.

    "I'm actually glad it's out in the open now, it's a lot of weight to bear. Some will graciously accept that, and some probably won't. It makes it real easy to know who's worth regarding as a friend. Those few remaining haters hide behind socks... I
    wonder why?" - Checkmate AKA Auntie Tranny <youdaman@betamail.corn> AKA "Rick Sabian" AKA "Morphing Fuckwit" AKA "automatic tranny" AKA "jen der queer" AKA "livelong@and.prosper" AKA "FOAD <foad@grnail.corn>" AKA "Destiny <faghaitur@bucket.list>" AKA "
    DAVID KEETING <Squiggles@ass.worm>" AKA "f4c3411 <f3c4L@f37l5h.corn>" AKA "<"Hunter's Dildo <RumPPumPPa@uPPa.yOOaSS>" >" AKA "Mustafa Sheboygan" AKA "Peter, the Booty Judge" <root@127.0.0.1> AKA "Mund Harmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "Mundharmonika <root@
    127.0.0.1>" AKA "% <%@hotmale.com>" AKA "Checkmate <trouble@soon.corn>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@MOUTH.ORGAN>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@127.O.O.1>" AKA "Tard Wrangler <youknowit@alphamale.corn>" hates when people hate pedo rapists. He wants friends who
    like pedo rapists. Write that down and don't forget it! <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/2VcCBNwMdeo/m/A0wpvxZRAAAJ>

    "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

    "Yeah, but you think everybody's Greg. There are a couple people here who can't resist responding to everything the aSSwurm or the Pussy Willow says. It does me no good to plonk aSSwurm and Pussy Willow if I still have to wade through a hundred inane
    posts a day involving those two assholes, so now I've plonked the chronic responders as well. They'll figure it out, and then they can make a choice... exchange stupid drivel with those two, or have more intelligent and interesting conversations with me.
    I know damned well Greg got sick of all that shit, and now I'm sick of it too. Those who choose to get led around by the lowest common denominator are fucking up AC and every other group they play that game in. If that's the kind of Usenet they want,
    they can wallow in the same slop as the two retards elsewhere, because they're only contributing to fucking this group up too. I can take or leave this shit, because I have plenty to keep me occupied with my room addition project, and it's a hell of a
    lot more rewarding than exchanging baby talk with the likes of the aSSwurm. May his fucking worthless AIDS-infested carcass drop fucking dead ASAP and quit wasting oxygen. To sum it up, talk to those two idiots elsewhere, or they'll probably be the only
    people left to talk to here." One can only presume that Jim and Creon/Vallor have solved this problem and are together in a private chat "having more intelligent and interesting conversations" instead of these "Civil" calls for shunning and
    authoritative control of discussion. As Seen on TV : <MPG.35cd7d50e1b224b1994604@news.altopia.com>

    "I'm pretty sure all gods are fictional, I'm smart enough to not proclaim I know this." - Kwills is only smart enough to doubt himself while arguing that a belief in imaginary made-up gods can't just be ignored as "mental illness" in <
    mo4q0j9tcqjt68s039loiacrbarihsh9i5@4ax.com>

    "If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker." -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.
    4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Trying to diminish others doesn't make you look any better. In fact, it does quite the opposite. Why are you always so bitter and angry? Do you have AIDS or something like so many other tranny girls do?" -James "Checkmate" Gorman in <MPG.
    405409befd41f28898969d@test.blocknews.net>

    "You should see my archive on you" -James "Checkmate" Gorman teases us with his "dosser" in <MPG.3eea81b23145043b98c338@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Sorry, nothing to see here. The joint wasn't as bad as they say, but I'm not looking to go back. I'm a model citizen, clean as a whistle. I've owned my own home for 12 years, owned my own business almost as long, don't bother anyone and they don't
    bother me. You have nothing in any "police report" pertaining to me. Don't you think they would have "come a-knockin" a long time ago if they had any reason to? You're delusional and paranoid, and I have to wonder why.

    Oh... I should mention that there are a LOT of trannies in prison. I don't know why, but there are. The State even has to give them hormone shots for their tiddies at taxpayer's expense, and they wear bras and panties. I found everything about them
    revolting. That's why the whole "Bubba" thing is almost completely a myth, except in cell living. That shit wouldn't fly in a 100-man dorm, but trust me, those little trollops find ways to serve the willing when the lights go out. You see something, you
    keep your mouth shut about it because that way you don't get in a wreck. I never partook in such activities because the whole idea is just repulsive. I think that's a big part of what I don't like about you. I've seen how they act and I've talked to a
    few... total drama queens in every sense." -James "Checkmate" Gorman reminisces about prison in <MPG.3ceb37c2eddbaff98b07a@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Not true. I've seen square waves on the oscilloscope from some certain generator. Square waves can be created from other than sine waves. Sine waves aren't everything (or anything you sick pervert %), I think that's the point you are missing. -
    Mathemagician "Lane Larson" in <939d6741-df96-5f2e-a444-b6dfd77de09e@stoat.inhoin.edu> seems to argue that square wave generators must use Fourier transforms "of course" to generate "almost" square waves... in his feeble attempt to quash my assertion
    that "square waves do not exist in reality" in post <=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DKWuXdYTXCQ5ApC$@88.203.236.221=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>.

    "Colour me fanboi, oh yes indeed. I'm a fanboi who is proudly content to be just that." - snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) in <1qx4ikk.c8jzw919si6cmN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 15:57:20 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    % wrote:
    Radio Gnome wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 9:39 AM, % wrote:
    Miami Nights wrote:
    As we've been covering, David Hogg, a vice chairman of the
    DNC, has found
    himself making headlines with how he's helping to plunge
    Democrats into
    disarray, given that he's launched a $20 million primary
    initiative
    against certain Democratic incumbents. The effort has been
    news for a
    week, and Hogg has received criticism from veteran Democratic
    strategist
    James Carville, as well as former DNC and RNC chairs. The
    current DNC
    leadership now looks to be finally gearing up to take action.

    On Wednesday night, POLITICO, which has been covering Hogg's
    initiative,
    reported that DNC Chairman Ken Martin was expected to
    announce during a
    Thursday morning member call that DNC officers are to stay
    neutral in all
    primaries.

    As the report began:

    The Democratic National Committee is going to force David
    Hogg to decide:
    Get out of the primary game or lose his DNC post.

    During a member call on Thursday, DNC Chair Ken Martin is
    expected to
    announce a proposal to change the party’s rules to mandate
    all DNC
    officers stay neutral in all Democratic primaries, according
    to a person
    directly familiar with the plan and granted anonymity to
    describe private
    discussions. The move comes after Hogg pledged last week to
    spend millions
    of dollars funding challenges to “asleep-at-the-wheel”
    Democrats in
    primaries, igniting a firestorm inside the DNC.

    The proposal, if passed at the DNC’s August meeting, would
    effectively
    force Hogg to decide whether to step away from his DNC vice
    chair position
    or wall himself off from the group he co-founded, Leaders We
    Deserve,
    which has pledged to spend $20 million on challenging Democratic
    incumbents in safe blue seats.

    It looks like Hogg is indeed willing to lose his role, as the
    report goes
    on to mention. "Hogg said in an interview last week that he
    would 'fight
    to remain in this position,' though he told at least two
    Democrats that
    he’s willing to lose his vice chair position through this
    process,"
    POLITICO also mentioned.

    NOTUS, which reported on the call even earlier on Wednesday,
    highlighted
    even more in a lengthy article, including details which show
    how Democrats
    certainly look to be in disarray.

    Reporting from Thursday afternoon, including from NBC News,
    spoke to how
    that in fact did take place during the morning call, and how
    it relates to
    prior issues for the DNC, as well as what the chairman
    himself ran on:

    Democratic party leaders Thursday morning admonished officers
    to not take
    sides in primaries, addressing a situation involving activist
    and
    Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg.

    "Let me be unequivocal. No DNC officer should ever attempt to
    influence
    the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an
    incumbent or a
    challenger," DNC Chair Ken Martin said in a press call.
    "Voters should
    decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership. Our
    role is to
    serve as stewards of a fair, open and trusted process, not to
    tilt the
    scales."'

    As of now, however, the DNC does not have the power to remove
    Hogg if he
    refuses to stand down on funding primary challenges through a
    separate PAC
    — unless the body changes its rules, a senior DNC official
    told NBC News.

    “Under the present bylaws, there is no action that can be
    taken against
    David Hogg without changing to the bylaws to extend that
    policy of
    neutrality to all primaries," DNC Finance Chair Chris Korge
    told NBC News.
    "There is no codified, legal way to remove an officer for
    doing what David
    Hogg has done because it only extends to the presidential race."

    Korge said that, as of now, the situation is to be addressed
    at a future
    meeting, likely in August.

    Korge said he believed it was imperative for the body to
    formally change
    its bylaws because the party division the Hogg situation has
    caused
    harkens to an old ghost Democrats don't want to revisit.

    “It smells like 2016, when progressives said the DNC had it
    in the bag for
    Hillary Clinton," Korge said, referencing angst in the party
    that the DNC
    had its thumb on the scale to block Sen. Bernie Sanders,
    I-Vt., from the
    presidential nomination. "No party official, no officer of
    the DNC, should
    do anything that would result in the division that was
    created by the
    perception that existed back in 2016."

    On Thursday, Martin went on to say he had spoken to Hogg
    about what he
    perceived as a conflict but he did not expound on whether he
    gave him an
    ultimatum.

    "I understand what he's trying to do," Martin continued in
    the press call.
    "As I've said to him, 'If you want to challenge incumbents,
    you're more
    than free to do that. But just not as an officer of the DNC,
    because our
    job is to be a neutral arbiter. We can't be both the referee
    and also the
    player at the same time. You have to make a decision.'"

    In pushing back on Thursday, Hogg cited Trump's power clashes
    with
    institutions in saying the party needed to take more
    aggressive actions.
    He added that he had not violated any DNC bylaws.

    "They’re trying to change the rules because I'm not currently
    breaking
    them. As we’re seeing law firms, tech companies, and so many
    others bowing
    to Trump, we all must use whatever position of power we have
    to fight
    back. And that’s exactly what I'm doing," Hogg said in a
    statement.

    "The role of the DNC is to set the Presidential primary
    calendar, set the
    Presidential debate schedule, to help strengthen our state
    parties, play a
    key role in building our data infrastructure for the party,
    and to be the
    campaign in waiting for whoever the next Democratic nominee
    is. Nothing
    I'm doing is at odds with any of that," he added.



    Now the party is grappling with what to do with [Hogg].

    Martin and others on the call did not discuss what next steps
    they'd take
    with Hogg. And Hogg maintained in an interview with NBC News
    Thursday that
    he was not in violation of current bylaws.



    Jane Kleeb, a DNC vice chair and the president of the
    Association of State
    Democratic Committees, said she backed neutrality, and it was
    also
    something that Martin also ran on.

    Kleeb noted that enshrining DNC neutrality was something that
    Sanders "and
    many other Dems across the ideological spectrum have
    repeatedly asked us
    to codify into our bylaws."

    Get your popcorn ready, as the foulmouthed DNC vice chairman
    may be losing
    his post soon, though that's one more thing Democrats have to
    figure out.
    It's worth wondering why these rules weren't in place already.

    Former DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile and former RNC Chairman
    Reince Priebus
    both appeared alongside Hogg during a panel discussing for
    Sunday's
    episode of ABC News' "This Week," where they expressed issue
    with Hogg's
    initiatives. "I'd have you removed from the party," Priebus
    even said to
    Hogg, while Brazile had pointed out how Hogg's "in hot water
    with [DNC
    Chair] Ken [Martin]."

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/04/24/the-dnc-has-had- >>>>
    enough-of-david-hogg-n2656040

    so

    Even James Carville called out the little soy boy fag on
    national tv.

    i don't know what this means

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

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  • From Horace M. Anure@21:1/5 to Klaus on Fri May 2 23:07:01 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    In <gum91kh4go24mo1o03fsuqqk3svdk1pkun@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com> Klaus wrote:

    Default ??????????Jen?????????? Dershmendenderer
    ???????????????????? <root@127.0.0.1> typed:

    -fart- Even James Carville called out the little soy boy fag on national tv. >>-fart-

    Are you the most manly man evar sic?

    Cher is more of a manly man than David Hogg

    Good one.

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  • From Horace M. Anure@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 23:18:46 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 02 May 2025, % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted some news:OWadnaCXm5fVT4n1nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com:

    ` Jen
    ` Dershmendenderer
    ` wrote:
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 09:44:27 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; Radio Gnome
    <gong@radiognome.com> determined that the following was of great
    importance to Radio Gnome <gong@radiognome.com> and subsequently
    decided to freely share it with us in <vv2i7r$12o2e$5@dont-email.me>:

    ` On 5/2/2025 9:39 AM, % wrote:
    ` `
    Miami Nights wrote: `
    ` ` As
    we've been covering, David Hogg, a vice chairman of the DNC, has
    ` `
    ` `
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/04/24/the-dnc-has-had-
    ` `
    ` enough-of-david-hogg-n2656040
    ` ` so
    `
    ` Even James Carville called out the
    little soy boy fag on national tv. `

    Are you the most manly man evar?

    oh , is that what it means

    Difficult to take someone like him seriously.

    https://www.chill.us/sites/default/files/2018/09/11/gunviolencex750.jpg

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  • From Casa@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 19:11:16 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.checkmate

    Is David Hogg related to Boss Hogg?

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to onion@anon.invalid on Sun May 4 15:58:56 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 4/5/25 14:04, onion@anon.invalid (Mr n!on) wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.

    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to onion@anon.invalid on Sun May 4 16:58:46 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr n!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.

    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.

    Hail Eris! [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 15:32:45 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    mr. onion, i have never even spoken to you, what gives you the
    right to express these opinions?

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Mon May 5 15:33:34 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 4/5/25 14:04, onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.

    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    hi siri, you are a BAD comedian!!

    just horrible bombing every word!

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon May 5 15:34:27 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.


    it got posted here on checkmate, so i thought some feedback was
    being requested??

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 15:35:19 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    % wrote:
    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.

    but everybody likes him , he told me

    i never said that... WHEN DID I EVER SAY THAT??!!! but yeah i
    dont want people to hate me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 15:57:51 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 15:32:45 +0000, LO AND BEHOLD; jojo <f00@0f0.00f>
    determined that the following was of great importance to jojo
    <f00@0f0.00f> and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <55c917f5-0f32-bd5f-6ecf-200e8277a138@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Mr Ön!on wrote: =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont even know
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the people.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Then why did you reply to the post?
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= mr. onion, i have never even spoken to you, what gives you the right to
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= express these opinions? =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    He's a very nice heterosexual cisgender man who only puts on makeup occasionally (for the cameras).

    HTH

    --

    "I am not a "hetero cismale"." - Steve K. Hall in <1r5hu1f.z02fkr1t8gjr5N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

    "Claiming that I "refuse to respect pronouns" is dead wrong. I respect them with everyone but "Jen" and "their" ilk, because "they" are a phony." - Scott Doty AKA Creon AKA Vallor AKA Doc Hammerhead declares why he ironically reserves the "right" to
    misgender others just like his MAGA bigot cohorts are wont to in Message-ID: <l54g7pF27huU2@mid.individual.net>


    Message-ID: <nistjjhili8963p9l65oi962r3p4mktej5@4ax.com>
    " And yet, one can still see the headers.
    If you weren't so stupid, you would know how. I will try, and
    likely fail, to dumb it down to your intellectual level.
    To the right of the post there are three dots. Click on them. A
    few options will appear. Click on "Show original message" and follow
    the instructions as best your learning disability will permit.
    If you still can't see the headers, there is nothing more I can
    do. I cannot dumb this down any more than I have." - Kenito Wills, stupider than shit-stupid. (See: https://ibb.co/MVsRGqN)

    "It's just like you to read all that, and come up a sick and clueless response like that one, totally unrelated to the point. It must get confusing to be intelligent enough to "sit at the best reading table in school," and fail to cobble together a
    basic understanding of what you've just read. The nasty side of you always manages to take control to guard your fragile ego, which explains why you never get along with people, and get visitors like Red Elephant who take the time and trouble to come by
    and embarrass you..." - <MPG.41696ec8ecc18ea4989796@usnews.blocknews.net> Jimbo responds to a yes/no question exactly as one might expect him to.

    "Bullshit! You salivate over every word I write, then beg for more. Then when you realize that I've put you in another hole you can't worm your way out of... even if you did "sit at the best reading table in elementary school," YOU revert to pedo lames,
    because that's the best you can do. In fact, no one here has any interest in your obsession with pedo lames but you, because you're intellectually weak. In fact, you seem suspiciously obsessed with that topic. Maybe some day we'll find out why." - <
    MPG.4169de194a070345989798@usnews.blocknews.net> No Jim, I am not "obsessed" with what you did and concealed and continue to backpedal from.

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/6FaoS9bawDI/m/Wdupq7BHaSkJ
    "I've spoken against CPS many times. That I realize that they were 100% correct in regards to you doesn't mean I'm pro-CPS." - Kent Wills doesn't like Child Protection Services getting in his way of abusing children.

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/AmluvRraNjg/m/gufYNdgK3E8J
    "Greg has made it very clear he likes little girls. And not in a sexually healthy way." - Kent Wills believes that there's a "sexually healthy" way to be a pedophile.

    "I'm actually glad it's out in the open now, it's a lot of weight to bear. Some will graciously accept that, and some probably won't. It makes it real easy to know who's worth regarding as a friend. Those few remaining haters hide behind socks... I
    wonder why?" - Checkmate AKA Auntie Tranny <youdaman@betamail.corn> AKA "Rick Sabian" AKA "Morphing Fuckwit" AKA "automatic tranny" AKA "jen der queer" AKA "livelong@and.prosper" AKA "FOAD <foad@grnail.corn>" AKA "Destiny <faghaitur@bucket.list>" AKA "
    DAVID KEETING <Squiggles@ass.worm>" AKA "f4c3411 <f3c4L@f37l5h.corn>" AKA "<"Hunter's Dildo <RumPPumPPa@uPPa.yOOaSS>" >" AKA "Mustafa Sheboygan" AKA "Peter, the Booty Judge" <root@127.0.0.1> AKA "Mund Harmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "Mundharmonika <root@
    127.0.0.1>" AKA "% <%@hotmale.com>" AKA "Checkmate <trouble@soon.corn>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@MOUTH.ORGAN>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@127.O.O.1>" AKA "Tard Wrangler <youknowit@alphamale.corn>" hates when people hate pedo rapists. He wants friends who
    like pedo rapists. Write that down and don't forget it! <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/2VcCBNwMdeo/m/A0wpvxZRAAAJ>

    "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

    "Yeah, but you think everybody's Greg. There are a couple people here who can't resist responding to everything the aSSwurm or the Pussy Willow says. It does me no good to plonk aSSwurm and Pussy Willow if I still have to wade through a hundred inane
    posts a day involving those two assholes, so now I've plonked the chronic responders as well. They'll figure it out, and then they can make a choice... exchange stupid drivel with those two, or have more intelligent and interesting conversations with me.
    I know damned well Greg got sick of all that shit, and now I'm sick of it too. Those who choose to get led around by the lowest common denominator are fucking up AC and every other group they play that game in. If that's the kind of Usenet they want,
    they can wallow in the same slop as the two retards elsewhere, because they're only contributing to fucking this group up too. I can take or leave this shit, because I have plenty to keep me occupied with my room addition project, and it's a hell of a
    lot more rewarding than exchanging baby talk with the likes of the aSSwurm. May his fucking worthless AIDS-infested carcass drop fucking dead ASAP and quit wasting oxygen. To sum it up, talk to those two idiots elsewhere, or they'll probably be the only
    people left to talk to here." One can only presume that Jim and Creon/Vallor have solved this problem and are together in a private chat "having more intelligent and interesting conversations" instead of these "Civil" calls for shunning and
    authoritative control of discussion. As Seen on TV : <MPG.35cd7d50e1b224b1994604@news.altopia.com>

    "I'm pretty sure all gods are fictional, I'm smart enough to not proclaim I know this." - Kwills is only smart enough to doubt himself while arguing that a belief in imaginary made-up gods can't just be ignored as "mental illness" in <
    mo4q0j9tcqjt68s039loiacrbarihsh9i5@4ax.com>

    "If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker." -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.
    4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Trying to diminish others doesn't make you look any better. In fact, it does quite the opposite. Why are you always so bitter and angry? Do you have AIDS or something like so many other tranny girls do?" -James "Checkmate" Gorman in <MPG.
    405409befd41f28898969d@test.blocknews.net>

    "You should see my archive on you" -James "Checkmate" Gorman teases us with his "dosser" in <MPG.3eea81b23145043b98c338@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Sorry, nothing to see here. The joint wasn't as bad as they say, but I'm not looking to go back. I'm a model citizen, clean as a whistle. I've owned my own home for 12 years, owned my own business almost as long, don't bother anyone and they don't
    bother me. You have nothing in any "police report" pertaining to me. Don't you think they would have "come a-knockin" a long time ago if they had any reason to? You're delusional and paranoid, and I have to wonder why.

    Oh... I should mention that there are a LOT of trannies in prison. I don't know why, but there are. The State even has to give them hormone shots for their tiddies at taxpayer's expense, and they wear bras and panties. I found everything about them
    revolting. That's why the whole "Bubba" thing is almost completely a myth, except in cell living. That shit wouldn't fly in a 100-man dorm, but trust me, those little trollops find ways to serve the willing when the lights go out. You see something, you
    keep your mouth shut about it because that way you don't get in a wreck. I never partook in such activities because the whole idea is just repulsive. I think that's a big part of what I don't like about you. I've seen how they act and I've talked to a
    few... total drama queens in every sense." -James "Checkmate" Gorman reminisces about prison in <MPG.3ceb37c2eddbaff98b07a@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Not true. I've seen square waves on the oscilloscope from some certain generator. Square waves can be created from other than sine waves. Sine waves aren't everything (or anything you sick pervert %), I think that's the point you are missing. -
    Mathemagician "Lane Larson" in <939d6741-df96-5f2e-a444-b6dfd77de09e@stoat.inhoin.edu> seems to argue that square wave generators must use Fourier transforms "of course" to generate "almost" square waves... in his feeble attempt to quash my assertion
    that "square waves do not exist in reality" in post <=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DKWuXdYTXCQ5ApC$@88.203.236.221=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>.

    "Colour me fanboi, oh yes indeed. I'm a fanboi who is proudly content to be just that." - snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) in <1qx4ikk.c8jzw919si6cmN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

    Golden Killfile, June 2005
    KOTM, November 2006
    Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
    Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
    Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
    Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
    Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
    Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
    Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
    AUK Mascot, September 2007
    Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 16:40:01 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    % wrote:
    jojo wrote:
    % wrote:
    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.

    but everybody likes him , he told me

    i never said that... WHEN DID I EVER SAY THAT??!!! but yeah i
    dont want people to hate me.

    i don't keep records of when you say things ,
    but i know i wouldn't repeat it if i didn't read it

    if you know, that mens you keep records!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 16:50:15 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    % wrote:
    jojo wrote:
    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic, dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    mr. onion, i have never even spoken to you, what gives you the
    right to express these opinions?

    for starters , he's right

    yeah? then you should have said it, but you didnt. so he's not right.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 17:37:27 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    % wrote:
    jojo wrote:
    % wrote:
    jojo wrote:
    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 15:57:20 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i cant read such long articles, plus such a boring topic,
    dont
    even know the people.

    Then why did you reply to the post?

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    mr. onion, i have never even spoken to you, what gives you
    the right to express these opinions?

    for starters , he's right

    yeah? then you should have said it, but you didnt. so he's not
    right.

    i've said it many times you're brain just isn';t smart enough to
    accept it ,
    you can't even accept no one wants you here ,
    iyt's getting to the point now where you're just a laughing stalk

    this is not a reality show, this is real life.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to onion@anon.invalid on Mon May 5 16:43:37 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 5/5/25 15:24, onion@anon.invalid (Mr n!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr n!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    Hail Eris! [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.


    When you're ready, come and get it
    You ain't gotta worry, it's an open invitation
    I'll be sittin' right here, real patient
    All day, all night, I'll be waitin' standby
    Can't stop because I love it, hate the way I love you
    All day, all night, maybe I'm addicted for life, no lie
    I'm not too shy to show I love you, I got no regrets
    I love you much, too much to hide you, this love ain't finished yet
    This love ain't finished yet
    So baby whenever you're ready
    When you're ready, come and get it


    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Mon May 5 16:57:51 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 5/5/25 15:36, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mr n!on wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr n!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    Hail Eris! [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.


    is something getting on your nirvanas


    nono


    Timothy Leary's got the airports all stacked up.

    He'll fly his astral plane
    Takes you trips around the bay
    Brings you back the same day
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary

    He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
    He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
    He flies so high, he swoops so low
    He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary



    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From walt@21:1/5 to Siri on Tue May 6 17:48:47 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    iN <vvbj8f$1k5q2$4@dont-email.me> Siri said:

    On 5/5/25 15:36, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    ...

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    Hail Eris! makes sign


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.


    is something getting on your nirvanas


    nono


    Timothy Leary's got the airports all stacked up.

    He'll fly his astral plane
    Takes you trips around the bay
    Brings you back the same day
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary

    He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
    He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
    He flies so high, he swoops so low
    He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary

    Tuesday afternoon
    I'm just beginning to see
    Now I'm on my way
    It doesn't matter to me
    Chasing the clouds away

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue May 6 14:06:45 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.checkmate

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 05 May 2025 16:57:51 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/5/25 15:36, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    Hail Eris! [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.


    is something getting on your nirvanas


    nono


    Timothy Leary's got the airports all stacked up.

    He'll fly his astral plane
    Takes you trips around the bay
    Brings you back the same day
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary

    He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
    He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
    He flies so high, he swoops so low
    He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary

    Blasting, billowing, bursting forth
    With the power of ten billion butterfly sneezes
    Man with his flaming pyre
    Has conquered the wayward breezes
    Climbing to tranquility
    Far above the cloud
    Conceiving the heavens
    Clear of misty shroud


    There once was a man from South Wales
    Who dined on the foreskins of snails
    When he couldn’t get these
    He dined on the cheese
    That he scraped from his nob with his nails

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Tue May 6 12:12:22 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 6/5/25 7:19, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    % wrote:
    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    Hail Eris! [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.

    is something getting on your nirvanas

    I've been thinking about deep fried foods like french fries and
    mozzarella sticks.

    I know a place that sells deep fried oreos.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Tue May 6 11:58:03 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 6/5/25 7:18, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Hail Eris! [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.


    When you're ready, come and get it
    You ain't gotta worry, it's an open invitation
    I'll be sittin' right here, real patient
    All day, all night, I'll be waitin' standby
    Can't stop because I love it, hate the way I love you
    All day, all night, maybe I'm addicted for life, no lie
    I'm not too shy to show I love you, I got no regrets
    I love you much, too much to hide you, this love ain't finished yet
    This love ain't finished yet
    So baby whenever you're ready
    When you're ready, come and get it


    [golden apple rolls into the centre]


    For the Peganaiest.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Casa@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Tue May 6 16:53:35 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.checkmate

    Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 6/5/25 7:19, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    % wrote:
    Mr Ön!on wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/25 16:44, onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Because he's an irritating, clueless, n00b.


    Every n00b is sacred.
    Every n00b is enthused.
    If a n00b gets flamed,
    Eris gets quite amused.


    Hail Eris!   [makes sign]


    <https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/gope/gope11.htm>

    And Mung said: "With the gods it is always Now. And before Sish
    hath banished many of the years the sorrows of thy family for
    thee shall go the way of thine." And the man beheld Mung making
    the sign of Mung before his eyes, which beheld things no more.


    At last, Nirvana.

    is something getting on your nirvanas

    I've been thinking about deep fried foods like french fries and
    mozzarella sticks.

    I know a place that sells deep fried oreos.


    I get my fried food at the battered women's shelter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to onion@anon.invalid on Tue May 6 14:09:46 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 6/5/25 13:24, onion@anon.invalid (Mr n!on) wrote:
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mr n!on wrote:
    Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Timothy Leary's got the airports all stacked up.

    He'll fly his astral plane
    Takes you trips around the bay
    Brings you back the same day
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary

    He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
    He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
    He flies so high, he swoops so low
    He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
    Timothy Leary, Timothy Leary


    #1 AEM; a-ETHYLMESCALINE;
    2-AMINO-1-(3,4,5-TRIMETHOXYPHENYL)BUTANE;
    1-(3,4,5-TRIMETHOXYPHENYL)-2-AMINOBUTANE

    SYNTHESIS: To a solution of 45 g 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde in
    1.2 L IPA, there was added 125 g nitropropane and 67.5 g t-butylammonium >>> acetate and the reaction mixture was held at reflux for 16 h. This was
    poured into 6 L H2O, and extracted with 2x250 mL hexane. The pooled
    extracts were stripped of solvent under vacuum giving a residue that
    slowly set to a crystalline mass. On filtering, there was obtained
    9.4 g of a crude yellow product which, on recrystallization from hexane
    provided 8.7 g of slightly sticky bright yellow crystals of
    2-nitro-1-(3,4,5-trimethoxyphenyl)butene-1, with a mp of 71-73 deg C.
    A second recrystallization from hexane gave fine yellow crystals with
    a mp of 72-73 deg C.

    --PiHKAL: A Chemical Love Story, by Alexander Shulgin and Ann Shulgin. >>>
    i'll go get jojo he knows all about this stuff

    Who?


    I am a doctor of many things.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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