• EDD Admits $55 Billion Lost in Pandemic... $55 Billion!

    From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 21:19:39 2025
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    The California Employment Development Department admits that $55 billion
    was lost in the pandemic.

    $55 Billion.

    That’s what the hapless state unemployment agency – the not at all
    ironically named Employment Development Department – now admits was its “overpayment” amount during the pandemic response.

    Zero. Maybe

    That’s what the EDD is hoping, due to a recent ruling, to have to pay
    back.

    As this can get a little convoluted, let’s start at the beginning.

    Despite decades of warnings about how woeful the department was, the EDD
    and its then-chief – Julie Su, the current federal Department of Labor
    acting chief – was utterly, completely, and absolutely unprepared for the pandemic.

    A customer service philosophy of having no customer service, antiquated steam-powered tech, a workforce that is considered a joke even by other Sacramento bureaucrats, dismal politically-driven leadership, and no need
    to actually be better – to this day it is not clear if anyone was actually fired for the wave of fraud – the EDD was prime for pandemic pilfering.

    And pilfer people did. From rappers to prisoners to global cybergangs, it
    now appears that at least a very large percentage of that $55 billion “overpayment” was due to fraud. Technically, as both the EDD, the
    Department of Labor, and any other government agency will stress,
    “overpayment” does not automatically mean “fraud.” It could be missing paperwork, it could be people dying, it could be due to misclassification,
    or a number of other things.

    Again, technically possible, but highly highly doubtful that makes up a
    sizable part of the $55 billion.

    Put it this way: California has 12% of the nation’s people. It got 21%
    of the federal unemployment money.

    In addition, the EDD sent out nine million benefit cards. There were only
    3 million unemployed people in the state. In other words, one office was tracking unemployment figures while, down the hall, another department was sending out three times that number of cards. Maybe pick up the phone or
    chat in the break room?

    Those cards carried at least $105 billion dollars already pre-loaded on
    them, so two-thirds would have carried about $70 billion, a number that is closer to the $55 billion “overpayment” (plus the $7 billion or so in
    state money lost.)

    In testifying before Congress, Su – who has been “acting” labor secretary
    since she was nominated first last year and will never actually be
    confirmed by the Senate for the gig full time in part due to her execrable
    job performance in California – claims she “shut the door” on fraud once
    she became aware of the problem.

    That is a lie – it went on for months before Su, whose progressive natural inclination was to make it easy as possible for people who didn’t deserve
    them got unemployment benefits, finally outsourced a security system (note
    – tens of thousands of actually legally benefit eligible Californians were
    shut out or had to wait months while they navigated the bureaucracy.)

    In the past, the EDD has made numerous different fraud loss claims,
    starting at about $7 billion and most recently claiming it was about $32 billion. Su herself has also claimed the majority of the fraud involved
    the federal pandemic relief funds.

    Whether or not that is true is unknown, but even if it is true it doesn’t matter. During the pandemic, there were two buckets of money, regular
    state and federal money through a trio of programs. But all of the money
    – no matter where it came from – flowed through the same EDD spigot,
    making the claim a distinction without a difference.

    In addition to the $55 billion, the EDD owes the feds $20.85 billion it
    had to borrow during the pandemic just to cover regular state benefits.
    It is estimated that at least $6 billion in “state” money was lost to
    fraud. (note – the $55 billion “owed” is essentially kept “off book” and
    has no relation to the state’s current massive budget deficit.)

    True, almost every state had to borrow to cover regular state benefits,
    but only New York and California declined to pay their loans back with
    leftover pandemic-related funds, leaving business owners on the hook for
    the debt through higher unemployment taxes for up the next ten years.

    So, will the $55 billion have to be covered by California businesses and taxpayers?

    Probably not. At least not all of it.

    In December, Su’s labor department issued a rule regarding something
    called “finality.” In a very rough nutshell, the feds are letting states follow their own regulations regarding when to declare a claim over and
    done with. Once an account claim is final – i.e., there is nothing left to
    do with it – if it owes money it owes it directly to the feds.

    In other words, even though the money was handed out by the EDD, the EDD
    is not necessarily on the hook for the debt – that’s becomes the
    responsibility of the fraudulent claimant.

    In February, the EDD asked – again in a nutshell – for permission to
    declare at the very least most of the $55 billion done and gone. In
    theory, the EDD is meant to continue to hunt for fraudsters even on closed claims – the agency claims it has clawed back about $6 billion in
    fraudulent payments so far – though the issue of urgency, or lack thereof,
    will most likely come into play.

    Actually, “would” may be too nice a word. In the request to the feds, EDD director Nancy Farias wrote that the agency “appreciate(s) the opportunity
    to apply our finality laws to (the federal programs) allowing us to focus
    more resources on helping to ensure timely payment to eligible claimants.”

    According to both the state’s Annual Comprehensive Financial Report and
    the state auditor’s report on the EDD – a report that was, yet again, a scathing indictment of the agency’s gross incompetence – the $55 billion
    is divisible into two groups, one of $29 billion and one of $26 billion
    (maybe – the state auditor wrote that the EDD is having trouble figuring
    out what claim goes where.) The EDD claims the $26 billion chunk is completely, well, deductible, and that a large portion of the $29 billion
    will also meet the appropriate criteria.

    The auditor added that due the problems inherent in how the EDD is
    operated that the figures cannot really be trusted as absolutely correct:

    “EDD provided an additional estimate of $29 billion to account for these
    paid benefits, increasing its overall estimate to $55 billion,” reads the audit. “However, EDD was unable to provide sufficient information substantiating this additional estimate. Because of these issues, there
    are possible material misstatements in the beginning balances,
    liabilities, revenues, and expenditures in the financial reports of the
    Federal Fund and Governmental Activities.”

    The EDD did – this time – respond to a request for comment. It emphasized
    the non-fraudulent aspect of the “overpayment,” saying that, if said overpayment was “not at fault and did not involve fraud” it is possible
    said debt could be waived “by showing financial hardship.”

    The question, of course, of whether or not Su would have allowed states to “apply finality” if California was not in such bad shape and if the
    raiding of the EDD had not occurred under Su’s watch, i.e. a self-
    absolvent of a sin. The Department of Labor did not address that question.

    It is also not clear exactly what will happen to the part of the $55
    billion that cannot be waived away, though it will not be added to the
    other $20.85 billion debt.

    Around the nation, roughly $215 billion of the $900 billion unemployment benefits paid was lost to fraud and other “overpayments. It now appears
    that California was responsible for about 30% of that figure.

    You sure did shut the door, Julie.

    The auditor’s report can be found here: https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2022-001.1/index.html

    The annual comprehensive financial report can be found here: https://www.sco.ca.gov/Files-ARD/ACFR/acfr22web.pdf

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