• Re: Trump Condemning African Refugees to Certain Death

    From jojo@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon May 12 18:36:45 2025
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    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [Default] jojo <f00@0f0.00f> typed:

    Ubiquitous wrote:
    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first
    humanitarian crisis of the post-American world is now unfolding.
    Thousands of people fleeing the civil war in Sudan’s Darfur
    region have recently arrived there after enduring long journeys
    in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they report
    being beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing
    awaits them in Tiné. Due in part to the Trump administration’s
    devastating cuts to foreign aid, only a skeleton staff of
    international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive them.
    There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in
    Tiné, and few resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share


    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single
    biggest pillar of American soft power back when the presidency
    was held by decent people. It was why the world admired and
    respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all that away.


    cant the EU do something? other african nations?

    what is EU doing? after all, they were the ones who carved out
    the continent. now they complain about the boats arriving at
    their shores.

    2024: Allocated €85 million in humanitarian aid for Chad, supporting
    food assistance, nutrition, protection, and emergency aid for
    displaced people.

    Early 2025: Announced €74.5 million to address the forced displacement crisis in Lake Chad province and support Sudanese refugees in eastern
    Chad. This funding focuses on food, nutrition, health, water,
    sanitation, hygiene, shelter, education, and rapid response.

    Additional 2024 Contribution: €57.9 million, including €8.7 million
    for Sudan conflict consequences, €3.1 million for an EU Humanitarian
    Air Bridge operation, and €45.3 million announced earlier in 2024.


    ok great, so let eu handle it.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon May 12 16:29:32 2025
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    On 5/12/25 14:25, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing the civil
    war in Sudan’s Darfur region have recently arrived there after enduring long
    journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing awaits them in Tiné.
    Due in part to the Trump administration’s devastating cuts to foreign aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive
    them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in Tiné, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent people. It was
    why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all
    that away.

    "Cunt Flaps" LOVES the idea of the U.S. borrowing money to send to
    other countries.


    Do you love borrowing money so that billionaires can become even richer?

    -hh

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  • From kenya today@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue May 13 00:09:13 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/12/2025 11:31 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [Default] jojo <f00@0f0.00f> typed:

    Ubiquitous wrote:
    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first
    humanitarian crisis of the post-American world is now unfolding.
    Thousands of people fleeing the civil war in Sudan’s Darfur
    region have recently arrived there after enduring long journeys
    in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they report
    being beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing
    awaits them in Tiné. Due in part to the Trump administration’s
    devastating cuts to foreign aid, only a skeleton staff of
    international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive them.
    There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in
    Tiné, and few resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share


    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single
    biggest pillar of American soft power back when the presidency
    was held by decent people. It was why the world admired and
    respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all that away.


    cant the EU do something? other african nations?

    what is EU doing? after all, they were the ones who carved out
    the continent. now they complain about the boats arriving at
    their shores.

    2024: Allocated €85 million in humanitarian aid for Chad, supporting
    food assistance, nutrition, protection, and emergency aid for
    displaced people.

    Early 2025: Announced €74.5 million to address the forced displacement crisis in Lake Chad province and support Sudanese refugees in eastern
    Chad. This funding focuses on food, nutrition, health, water,
    sanitation, hygiene, shelter, education, and rapid response.

    Additional 2024 Contribution: €57.9 million, including €8.7 million
    for Sudan conflict consequences, €3.1 million for an EU Humanitarian
    Air Bridge operation, and €45.3 million announced earlier in 2024.

    Germany laid off workers, moved them out of government subsidized
    dwellings, then moved the worthless African invaders into the homes and
    tried to put them to work. Most were too unskilled to perform any
    useful tasks, so the government handed them money instead. They took
    over sidewalk cafes, coffee shops, other public areas, then began raping
    women and robbing everyone else.

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  • From kenya today@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue May 13 00:11:49 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/12/2025 1:29 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 5/12/25 14:25, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [Default]  Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian
    crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing
    the civil
    war in Sudan’s Darfur region have recently arrived there after
    enduring long
    journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they
    report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing awaits them
    in Tiné.
    Due in part to the Trump administration’s devastating cuts to foreign
    aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to
    receive
    them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in
    Tiné, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest
    pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent
    people. It was
    why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented
    cretin, threw all
    that away.

    "Cunt Flaps"  LOVES the idea of the U.S. borrowing money to send to
    other countries.


    Do you love borrowing money so that billionaires can become even richer?

    Everybody borrows. Some are just smarter and more successful about
    about it than others, like yourself for example.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad on Thu May 15 03:37:18 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tin, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing the civil
    war in Sudans Darfur region have recently arrived there after enduring long >journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothingthey report being >beaten, robbed, or raped along the wayand almost nothing awaits them in Tin. >Due in part to the Trump administrations devastating cuts to foreign aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive >them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in Tin, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent people. It was >why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all
    that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 02:55:12 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me on Thu May 15 10:04:59 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 07:46:37 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Caring is an evolved trait and so natural.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 11:52:19 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Thu May 15 11:53:04 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you have a responsibility to support me, right?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu May 15 09:17:26 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15/5/25 8:52, Scout wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give
    her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.



    Pass the money onto UMCOR,

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 09:40:45 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 12:37 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing the civil
    war in Sudan’s Darfur region have recently arrived there after enduring long
    journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing awaits them in Tiné.
    Due in part to the Trump administration’s devastating cuts to foreign aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive
    them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in Tiné, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent people. It was
    why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all
    that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire world.
    No one ever said it was, you fucking geriatric Nazi rapist. It is in America's interest to relieve some of the misery in the world.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 09:43:50 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man — no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument is a form of lie.


    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world. It contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly the way America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small measure because of humanitarian assistance we provided. That's simply a fact. I know facts are toxic to geriatric racist Nazi rapists like you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Thu May 15 13:18:17 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100541a$377ak$4@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 8:52, Scout wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give
    her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.



    Pass the money onto UMCOR,

    How much of your money did you give to UMCOR?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Thu May 15 17:44:22 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On 5/15/2025 8:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:



    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont- email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check?

    That wouldn't be an expression of empathy, scooter. That's just
    you trying to shirk responsibility for your own self-inflicted
    impecunity.


    isnt that the same thing though with "supporting" the world? all
    about money and wire transfers.

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Thu May 15 17:52:13 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Ubiquitous wrote:
    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man — no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument
    is a form of lie.


    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the
    world. It contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world
    ran mostly the way America wanted it to run for the last 80 years
    in no small measure because of humanitarian assistance we
    provided. That's simply a fact. I know facts are toxic to
    geriatric racist Nazi rapists like you.


    marshall plan covered only a few countries and american companies
    benefitted GREATLY from their markets developing, making dollar
    the reserve currency and later becoming buyers of american debt.
    the whole rosy picture of humanitarian assistance is absurd
    considering all the coups and wars and assasinations. world
    politics is machiavellian, not box-office movie sentimental good
    guy bad guy morals.

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  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Thu May 15 18:27:44 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On 5/15/2025 10:44 AM, jojo wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On 5/15/2025 8:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy,
    trolled and lied:



    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont- email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check?

    That wouldn't be an expression of empathy, scooter. That's
    just you trying to shirk responsibility for your own
    self-inflicted impecunity.


    isnt that the same thing though with "supporting" the world?
    all about money and wire transfers.


    No one is advocating that the U.S. "support the world." That's a
    straw man, which is a form of lying.

    It is in rich countries' interest to try to alleviate misery in
    the world. No one is suggesting we alleviate all of it, but
    absolutely we should help starving people in war-torn countries
    in which the combatants are destroying any hope of these people
    fending for themselves.


    i feel it is naive to think the alleviation doesnt come with
    strings attached and is done out of goodness of heart. be it to
    spread soft power or open mcdonalds and starbucks or install
    favorable regimes.

    in that case it shouldnt be framed as support or charity or
    anything virtuous of that sort. it is an opportune transaction,
    plain and simple.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to jojo on Thu May 15 11:36:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 10:52 AM, jojo wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:
    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man — no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument is a form of
    lie.


    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world. It
    contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly the way >> America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small measure because of
    humanitarian assistance we provided. That's simply a fact. I know facts are >> toxic to geriatric racist Nazi rapists like you.


    marshall plan covered only a few countries and american companies benefitted [sic]

    *benefited* — only one 't'. Don't take your English composition lessons from Narcissist Girl.

    "Only a few" — try sixteen, and nearly all of them experienced extreme devastation in the war. The point was to keep them oriented toward the west and democracy, and it worked.

    GREATLY from their markets developing, making dollar the reserve currency and

    The Marshall Plan is not what made the dollar the reserve currency of the world.

    later becoming buyers of american debt. the whole rosy picture of humanitarian
    assistance is absurd considering all the coups and wars and assasinations.

    That's not what the experts say.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu May 15 15:50:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/25 11:53, Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you have
    a responsibility to support me, right?


    What? You've not gotten your DOGE refund check yet?
    Better call Elon...

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Thu May 15 13:10:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15/5/25 9:45, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check?

    That wouldn't be an expression of empathy, scooter. That's just
    you trying to shirk responsibility for your own self-inflicted
    impecunity.

    Churches can sometimes help with charity.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 20:22:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Ask yourself that question when you're in a store and it's being robbed
    by those you've shown fiscal generosity.

    Take California for example. They've done a superb job of stabbing their voters in the back. Why there hasn't been a general mass uprising and
    public hangings is perplexing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 20:19:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15 May 2025, Attila <prochoice@here.now> posted some news:6c6b2kdf0m37r8r2rtf38hqgvn0e06k3o1@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id ><nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tin, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian >>crisis of the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of
    people fleeing the civil war in Sudans Darfur region have recently
    arrived there after enduring long journeys in relentless, 100-degree
    heat. Many have nothingthey report being beaten, robbed, or raped
    along the wayand almost nothing awaits them in Tin. Due in part to
    the Trump administrations devastating cuts to foreign aid, only a
    skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to
    receive them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and
    shelter in Tin, and few resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian- >>disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6 >>eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest >>pillar of American soft power back when the presidency was held by
    decent people. It was why the world admired and respected the U.S.
    Trump, a demented cretin, threw all that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Exactly.

    The US Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises" in Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. This power
    is specifically authorized to pay debts and provide for the common defense
    and general welfare of the United States.

    United States, not lazy good-for-nothing welfare states.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Marmalade King@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 20:36:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/25 11:53, Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you have
    a responsibility to support me, right?


    What? You've not gotten your DOGE refund check yet?
    Better call Elon...

    -hh

    The government doesn't hand out money any more. You can look forward to receiving a $1,000 credit towards your next Tesla purchase!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me on Thu May 15 16:47:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:46:37 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Caring is an evolved trait and so natural.

    That does not equate to world wide responsibility.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to with message-id on Thu May 15 16:49:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 11:52:19 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
    with message-id <10052lf$36vll$5@dont-email.me> wrote:



    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message >news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her >responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Not with my money.


    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to aRoVP.130081$rkV6.12310@fx46.iad on Thu May 15 16:52:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:43:50 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <aRoVP.130081$rkV6.12310@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument is a form of lie.

    That is easy to say since the origional statement has been
    removed.



    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world.

    Within limits and not as a reflex.

    It
    contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly the way >America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small measure because of >humanitarian assistance we provided. That's simply a fact. I know facts are >toxic to geriatric racist Nazi rapists like you.

    Assuming facts not in evidence.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to hOoVP.277935$v2h6.158105@fx14.iad on Thu May 15 16:55:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:40:45 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <hOoVP.277935$v2h6.158105@fx14.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 12:37 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tin, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing the civil
    war in Sudans Darfur region have recently arrived there after enduring long
    journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothingthey report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the wayand almost nothing awaits them in Tin.
    Due in part to the Trump administrations devastating cuts to foreign aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive
    them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in Tin, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent people. It was
    why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all
    that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire world.
    No one ever said it was, you fucking geriatric Nazi rapist. It is in America's >interest to relieve some of the misery in the world.

    Not as a reflex and not in all cases.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 16:49:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 1:52 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:43:50 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <aRoVP.130081$rkV6.12310@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man — no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument is a form of lie.

    That is easy to say since

    since it is true.



    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world.

    Within limits and not as a reflex.

    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi rapist.


    It
    contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly the way >> America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small measure because of
    humanitarian assistance we provided. That's simply a fact. I know facts are >> toxic to geriatric racist Nazi rapists like you.

    Assuming facts

    Yes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 15 16:50:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 1:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:40:45 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <hOoVP.277935$v2h6.158105@fx14.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 12:37 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing the civil
    war in Sudan’s Darfur region have recently arrived there after enduring long
    journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing awaits them in Tiné.
    Due in part to the Trump administration’s devastating cuts to foreign aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive
    them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in Tiné, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent people. It was
    why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all
    that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire world.
    No one ever said it was, you fucking geriatric Nazi rapist. It is in America's
    interest to relieve some of the misery in the world.

    Not as a reflex

    It's not a reflex, you lying Nazi rapist. It's a conscious choice.

    It's the right thing to do. We don't consult lying Nazi rapists about the right thing to do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri May 16 00:12:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like Streisand, have walls.
    So does Biden, a large fence in fact.

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the world's whore.
    Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.





    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
    Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to z4vVP.581324$ujgb.182059@fx15.iad on Fri May 16 07:29:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 16:49:52 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <z4vVP.581324$ujgb.182059@fx15.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 1:52 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:43:50 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <aRoVP.130081$rkV6.12310@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument is a form of lie.

    That is easy to say since

    since it is true.



    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world.

    Within limits and not as a reflex.

    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi >rapist.

    Not my problem.



    It
    contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly the way >>> America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small measure because of
    humanitarian assistance we provided. That's simply a fact. I know facts are >>> toxic to geriatric racist Nazi rapists like you.

    Assuming facts

    Yes.

    This must be Rudy. The lies are so obvious.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to r5vVP.581325$ujgb.220823@fx15.iad on Fri May 16 07:31:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 16:50:48 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <r5vVP.581325$ujgb.220823@fx15.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 1:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:40:45 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <hOoVP.277935$v2h6.158105@fx14.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 12:37 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tin, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian crisis of
    the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of people fleeing the civil
    war in Sudans Darfur region have recently arrived there after enduring long
    journeys in relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothingthey report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the wayand almost nothing awaits them in Tin.
    Due in part to the Trump administrations devastating cuts to foreign aid, only
    a skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive
    them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in Tin, and few
    resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest pillar of
    American soft power back when the presidency was held by decent people. It was
    why the world admired and respected the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all
    that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire world.
    No one ever said it was, you fucking geriatric Nazi rapist. It is in America's
    interest to relieve some of the misery in the world.

    Not as a reflex

    It's not a reflex, you lying Nazi rapist. It's a conscious choice.

    Then I chose no.


    It's the right thing to do.

    We don't consult lying Nazi rapists about the right

    Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change
    from person to person and over time.

    thing to do.

    Goodbye, Rudy.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri May 16 08:44:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message news:1005gij$39ukp$1@dont-email.me...
    On 5/15/25 11:53, Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you have a
    responsibility to support me, right?


    What? You've not gotten your DOGE refund check yet?
    Better call Elon...

    Why? Elon has never said it's his responsibility to support others, unlike Siri.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri May 16 13:02:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:1007c7d$3p2r7$11@dont-email.me:



    "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message news:1005gij$39ukp$1@dont-email.me...
    On 5/15/25 11:53, Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you
    have a responsibility to support me, right?


    What? You've not gotten your DOGE refund check yet?
    Better call Elon...

    Why? Elon has never said it's his responsibility to support others,
    unlike Siri.




    Indeed.

    Elon bragged that empathy for others
    is a vice and should be avoided. He is
    so self-centered even his own children
    won't speak to him.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 16 06:46:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri May 16 09:16:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/25 20:12, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like Streisand, have walls.
    So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as the
    US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Since you allegedly went to a gifted high school, you should be able to
    do basic algebra:

    Cost of 2K miles of physical barriers at $20M/mile = $40B
    Cost of ~3,000 watchtowers (500m spacing) at $5M ea = $15B
    Cost of technology/tower at $25M ea = $75B
    Cost of maintenance/tower at $2M ea = $6B
    Cost of staffing for 24/7 surveillance =$12B/yr
    And so on.

    Even with just the above, the cost is ~$1,000 per taxpayer household.
    Are you going to accept that much of a tax increase on personally?
    Because if not, then the next line very much applies to you:

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri May 16 06:49:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16/5/25 6:16, -hh wrote:
    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls.
    So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as
    the US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Unwatched wall is an expensive gate.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me on Fri May 16 10:23:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 16 15:12:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.


    these days all occurences of starvation are man made and not a
    result of nature.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 16 11:28:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.

    You're an ass.

    --
    UNIX is hot. It's more than hot. It's steaming. It's quicksilver
    lightning with a laserbeam kicker.
    -- Michael Jay Tucker

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:22:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15 May 2025, Rudy <webspermeater@polaris.net> posted some news:z4vVP.581324$ujgb.182059@fx15.iad:

    On 5/15/2025 1:52 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:43:50 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <aRoVP.130081$rkV6.12310@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man — no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument
    is a form of lie.

    That is easy to say since

    since it is true.

    "not" in your case.



    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world.

    Within limits and not as a reflex.

    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you
    lying Nazi rapist.

    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.


    It
    contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly
    the way America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small
    measure because of humanitarian assistance we provided. That's
    simply a fact. I know facts are toxic to geriatric racist Nazi
    rapists like you.

    Assuming facts

    Yes.

    No. You spread manure, not facts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1007lir$3qpfe$4@dont-email.me on Fri May 16 18:24:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 11:28:26 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> in alt.atheism with message-id <1007lir$3qpfe$4@dont-email.me> wrote:

    Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.

    You're an ass.

    That's better than being whatever you are. I seldom hear
    from you but you must tolerate yourself constantly -
    forever.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:23:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15 May 2025, Rudy <webspermeater@polaris.net> posted some news:r5vVP.581325$ujgb.220823@fx15.iad:

    On 5/15/2025 1:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:40:45 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <hOoVP.277935$v2h6.158105@fx14.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 12:37 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first
    humanitarian crisis of the post-American world is now unfolding.
    Thousands of people fleeing the civil war in Sudan’s Darfur
    region have recently arrived there after enduring long journeys in
    relentless, 100-degree heat. Many have nothing—they report being
    beaten, robbed, or raped along the way—and almost nothing awaits
    them in Tiné. Due in part to the Trump administration’s
    devastating cuts to foreign aid, only a skeleton staff of
    international humanitarian workers are on hand to receive them.
    There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter in
    Tiné, and few resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitar
    ian-disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQ
    ypsX5dN6eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=s
    hare

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single
    biggest pillar of American soft power back when the presidency was
    held by decent people. It was why the world admired and respected
    the U.S. Trump, a demented cretin, threw all that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire world.
    No one ever said it was, you fucking geriatric Nazi rapist. It is in
    America's interest to relieve some of the misery in the world.

    Not as a reflex

    It's not a reflex, you lying Nazi rapist. It's a conscious choice.

    Not yours to declare for others.

    It's the right thing to do. We don't consult lying Nazi rapists about
    the right thing to do.

    Correct, because those Democrats tend to make poor, inconsistent and wrong-headed decisions when faced with serious problems. See Kamala
    Harris.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:24:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15 May 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:1005vu4$3d0hv$4@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    I have yet to see Mayorkas called to task for this. He stood by and
    enabled it all.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the world's
    whore. Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.

    Globalism is socialism. That's the problem.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:28:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 15 May 2025, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> posted some news:su3d2k1vblv2lui1cr785ql5avtuvsc92j@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 03:37:18 -0400, Attila wrote:
    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest >>>pillar of American soft power back when the presidency was held by
    decent people. It was why the world admired and respected the U.S.
    Trump, a demented cretin, threw all that away.

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    It was not just the responsibility, there was also the pleasure in
    pride of place.

    That's bs and you know it.

    Now we're just another shithole country.

    Only some parts thanks to Democrats and their activists. The days of
    reckoning are upon us for the shitholes.

    Gavin Newsom just lied to the entire state of California again. First
    he said no more free healthcare for illegals, then he and his Sacramento
    pals slipped it back into the budget. That is how California just got
    the $12 billion deficit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:32:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16 May 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some news:1007dqr$3p2c4$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/15/25 20:12, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give
    her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as the US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Since you allegedly went to a gifted high school, you should be able
    to do basic algebra:

    Cost of 2K miles of physical barriers at $20M/mile = $40B
    Cost of ~3,000 watchtowers (500m spacing) at $5M ea = $15B
    Cost of technology/tower at $25M ea = $75B
    Cost of maintenance/tower at $2M ea = $6B
    Cost of staffing for 24/7 surveillance =$12B/yr
    And so on.

    Even with just the above, the cost is ~$1,000 per taxpayer household.
    Are you going to accept that much of a tax increase on personally?
    Because if not, then the next line very much applies to you:

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    Add this to your accounting.

    Americans now pay $150.7 billion dollars annually due to illegal
    immigration. This figure represents a net cost. The gross estimate is
    around $182 billion.

    Approximately 60% of the USA is employed.

    Thus, based on $150 billion, illegal immigration costs each taxpayer
    $735 out of pocket to provide health care, clothing, housing,
    transportation, legal representation, child care, educations, food, free phones, free internet, EBT cards etc.

    All things Americans must work and pay for. Well, most ot them anyway.

    Taxes are for the good of the American people, not everyone else.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:31:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16 May 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB2E151C7029B3629555@185.151.15.190:

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:1007c7d$3p2r7$11@dont-email.me:



    "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
    news:1005gij$39ukp$1@dont-email.me...
    On 5/15/25 11:53, Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you
    have a responsibility to support me, right?


    What? You've not gotten your DOGE refund check yet?
    Better call Elon...

    Why? Elon has never said it's his responsibility to support others,
    unlike Siri.

    Indeed.

    Elon

    Elon Musk's charitable foundation has donated more than $450 million in
    total for the past three years.

    What did you fork over?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Fri May 16 22:52:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 2025-05-16, howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> wrote:
    On 15 May 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:1005vu4$3d0hv$4@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    I have yet to see Mayorkas called to task for this. He stood by and
    enabled it all.


    And you probably never will.
    The republicans are spineless and all talk no action.
    If I see Comer or Lindsy Graham squawking about "we've got him" crap
    one more time i'll get ill.



    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Yep.
    And walls are only one part of the security system.

    Again, tell me what happens when you illegally cross the border into
    Russia or China?



    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the world's
    whore. Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.

    Globalism is socialism. That's the problem.

    It is.

    And a socialist wants you to give them everything except your job....
    Socialism fails every single time and history proves this.


    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
    Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 16 15:54:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/16/2025 7:23 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.

    You're still lucky, you vile Nazi rapist. Those people in Sudan worked as hard as they could until the war destroyed their livelihoods along with their homes. Your luck began when you were born in a stable country. That's not due to anything you did, you fucking Nazi rapist.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?w5ZyZMO2Zw==?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 08:57:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Attila szépen beleszart a Usenet-be

    Not luck.

    Hát igen! Aki egy ritka balfasz, mint te, az igazán nem szerencsés.

    I worked for it.

    Látszik az eredményen! :-P :-P :-P


    That's better than being whatever you are. > you but you must tolerate yourself constantly -
    forever
    avara

    Talking into your bathroom mirror, aren't you???
    :-P :-P :-P

    Szerintem tökéletesen passzolsz az Órbán féle agyhugyköves fasiszta idiótákhoz. A deportálást veled kéne kezdeni. Van még sok üres hely a szibériai gulágokban.

    Miért nem teszel egy irdatlan nagy szívességget az emberiség javára? Dögölj meg lehetőleg máma még!
    :-P :-P :-P

    --
    Ördög
    The on duty Newsgroup Devil

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From howie ruffe@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 22:34:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16 May 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some news:1007lir$3qpfe$4@dont-email.me:

    Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits,
    you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.

    You're an ass.

    His ass brays and kicks Democrats in the balls.

    If you had a job, you could afford one too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1008hhf$c78$2@dont-email.me on Fri May 16 19:46:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 16:26:28 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1008hhf$c78$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 15:22, howie ruffe wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you
    lying Nazi rapist.
    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.



    Because you are a bigot.

    <https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/11/firefighters-from-mexico-arrive-in-la-to-help-fight-palisades-eaton-fires/>

    LOS ANGELES A team of firefighters from Mexico arrived at Los
    Angeles International Airport on Saturday, joining the personnel
    of more than 14,000 already battling the Palisades and Eaton
    fires in the Los Angeles area.

    Around 3 p.m. Saturday, a crew of more than 70 firefighters and
    disaster relief workers from Mexicos National Forestry
    Commission and Ministry of Defense flew in to the county to
    provide additional international support, according to California
    Gov. Gavin Newsom.

    On Monday, Jan. 13, the crew of Mexican firefighters will be
    going out on their first 24-hour shift to aid in the Palisades
    firefighting efforts, according to Chloe Castillo, a public
    information officer for Cal Fire.

    Did anyone check to see if they were smuggling for a cartel?

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 16 17:01:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16/5/25 16:46, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 16:26:28 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1008hhf$c78$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 15:22, howie ruffe wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you
    lying Nazi rapist.
    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.



    Because you are a bigot.

    <https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/11/firefighters-from-mexico-arrive-in-la-to-help-fight-palisades-eaton-fires/>

    LOS ANGELES A team of firefighters from Mexico arrived at Los
    Angeles International Airport on Saturday, joining the personnel
    of more than 14,000 already battling the Palisades and Eaton
    fires in the Los Angeles area.

    Around 3 p.m. Saturday, a crew of more than 70 firefighters and
    disaster relief workers from Mexicos National Forestry
    Commission and Ministry of Defense flew in to the county to
    provide additional international support, according to California
    Gov. Gavin Newsom.

    On Monday, Jan. 13, the crew of Mexican firefighters will be
    going out on their first 24-hour shift to aid in the Palisades
    firefighting efforts, according to Chloe Castillo, a public
    information officer for Cal Fire.

    Did anyone check to see if they were smuggling for a cartel?


    Never look a grift horse in the butt.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Fri May 16 16:26:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16/5/25 15:22, howie ruffe wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you
    lying Nazi rapist.
    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.



    Because you are a bigot.

    <https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/11/firefighters-from-mexico-arrive-in-la-to-help-fight-palisades-eaton-fires/>

    LOS ANGELES A team of firefighters from Mexico arrived at Los
    Angeles International Airport on Saturday, joining the personnel
    of more than 14,000 already battling the Palisades and Eaton
    fires in the Los Angeles area.

    Around 3 p.m. Saturday, a crew of more than 70 firefighters and
    disaster relief workers from Mexicos National Forestry
    Commission and Ministry of Defense flew in to the county to
    provide additional international support, according to California
    Gov. Gavin Newsom.

    On Monday, Jan. 13, the crew of Mexican firefighters will be
    going out on their first 24-hour shift to aid in the Palisades
    firefighting efforts, according to Chloe Castillo, a public
    information officer for Cal Fire.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Sat May 17 02:00:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> wrote in news:1008eb9$s0o$11
    @toxic.dizum.net:

    On 16 May 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB2E151C7029B3629555@185.151.15.190:

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:1007c7d$3p2r7$11@dont-email.me:



    "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
    news:1005gij$39ukp$1@dont-email.me...
    On 5/15/25 11:53, Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1004un1$361tm$1@dont-email.me...
    On 15/5/25 7:04, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire >>>>>>>>> world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?


    We are a social species and among primates the most empathetic.

    Great, I need $5,000 can you send me a cashier's check? I mean you
    have a responsibility to support me, right?


    What? You've not gotten your DOGE refund check yet?
    Better call Elon...

    Why? Elon has never said it's his responsibility to support others,
    unlike Siri.

    Indeed.

    Elon

    Elon Musk's charitable foundation has donated more than $450 million in
    total for the past three years.



    "The Musk Foundation is a US-based
    charitable foundation funded and
    directed primarily by Elon Musk. The
    foundation is dedicated to promoting
    renewable energy, (think Tesla) crewed
    space exploration, (think Space X),
    pediatrics, science and engineering
    education, and the "development of safe
    artificial intelligence (Tesla and Space X)
    for the benefit of humanity".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_Foundation


    No schools, no libraries, no
    disease eradication, no parks, just
    stuff that happens to benefit his
    commercial ventures.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 16 18:57:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/16/2025 4:46 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 16:26:28 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1008hhf$c78$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 15:22, howie ruffe wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you
    lying Nazi rapist.
    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.



    Because you are a bigot.

    <https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/11/firefighters-from-mexico-arrive-in-la-to-help-fight-palisades-eaton-fires/>

    LOS ANGELES — A team of firefighters from Mexico arrived at Los
    Angeles International Airport on Saturday, joining the personnel
    of more than 14,000 already battling the Palisades and Eaton
    fires in the Los Angeles area.

    Around 3 p.m. Saturday, a crew of more than 70 firefighters and
    disaster relief workers from Mexico’s National Forestry
    Commission and Ministry of Defense flew in to the county to
    provide additional international support, according to California
    Gov. Gavin Newsom.

    On Monday, Jan. 13, the crew of Mexican firefighters will be
    going out on their first 24-hour shift to aid in the Palisades
    firefighting efforts, according to Chloe Castillo, a public
    information officer for Cal Fire.

    Did anyone check to see if they were smuggling for a cartel?
    Yes, you Nazi rapist shitbag. They were fully inspected by U.S. Customs and Border Protection at the airport.

    You goddamned fucking Nazi rapist. You are going to be culled.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1008jiu$ito$1@dont-email.me on Fri May 16 23:25:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 17:01:23 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1008jiu$ito$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 16:46, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 16:26:28 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1008hhf$c78$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 15:22, howie ruffe wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you >>>>>> lying Nazi rapist.
    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.



    Because you are a bigot.

    <https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/11/firefighters-from-mexico-arrive-in-la-to-help-fight-palisades-eaton-fires/>

    LOS ANGELES A team of firefighters from Mexico arrived at Los
    Angeles International Airport on Saturday, joining the personnel
    of more than 14,000 already battling the Palisades and Eaton
    fires in the Los Angeles area.

    Around 3 p.m. Saturday, a crew of more than 70 firefighters and
    disaster relief workers from Mexicos National Forestry
    Commission and Ministry of Defense flew in to the county to
    provide additional international support, according to California
    Gov. Gavin Newsom.

    On Monday, Jan. 13, the crew of Mexican firefighters will be
    going out on their first 24-hour shift to aid in the Palisades
    firefighting efforts, according to Chloe Castillo, a public
    information officer for Cal Fire.

    Did anyone check to see if they were smuggling for a cartel?


    Never look a grift horse in the butt.

    That is no longer true.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From edell@post.com@21:1/5 to Michael Terrell on Sat May 17 06:59:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    In <HIMVP.714350$bRfb.584536@fx16.iad> Michael Terrell said:

    On 15 May 2025, Rudy <webspermeater@polaris.net> posted some news:z4vVP.581324$ujgb.182059@fx15.iad:

    On 5/15/2025 1:52 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 09:43:50 -0700, Ubiquitous

    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <aRoVP.130081$rkV6.12310@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/15/2025 7:04 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Straw man — no one ever advocated for that. A straw man argument >>>> is a form of lie.

    That is easy to say since

    since it is true.

    "not" in your case.



    Why not?

    Why should it be?
    It is in America's interest to relieve some misery around the world.

    Within limits and not as a reflex.

    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits, you
    lying Nazi rapist.

    Not a US problem. I don't see anybody sending foreign assistance to
    people in Florida, North Carolina or Los Angeles.


    It
    contributes to *our* well-being and security. The world ran mostly
    the way America wanted it to run for the last 80 years in no small
    measure because of humanitarian assistance we provided. That's
    simply a fact. I know facts are toxic to geriatric racist Nazi
    rapists like you.

    Assuming facts

    Yes.

    No. You spread manure, not facts.

    You're a fucking NAZI asshole and you helped elect that fascist in the Whitehouse!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Sat May 17 08:32:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> wrote:
    On 16 May 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some news:1007dqr$3p2c4$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/15/25 20:12, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give
    her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as the
    US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Since you allegedly went to a gifted high school, you should be able
    to do basic algebra:

    Cost of 2K miles of physical barriers at $20M/mile = $40B
    Cost of ~3,000 watchtowers (500m spacing) at $5M ea = $15B
    Cost of technology/tower at $25M ea = $75B
    Cost of maintenance/tower at $2M ea = $6B
    Cost of staffing for 24/7 surveillance =$12B/yr
    And so on.

    Even with just the above, the cost is ~$1,000 per taxpayer household.
    Are you going to accept that much of a tax increase on personally?
    Because if not, then the next line very much applies to you:

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    Add this to your accounting.

    Americans now pay $150.7 billion dollars annually due to illegal
    immigration. This figure represents a net cost. The gross estimate is
    around $182 billion.

    Approximately 60% of the USA is employed.

    Thus, based on $150 billion, illegal immigration costs each taxpayer
    $735 out of pocket to provide health care, clothing, housing,
    transportation, legal representation, child care, educations, food, free phones, free internet, EBT cards etc.

    All things Americans must work and pay for. Well, most ot them anyway.

    Taxes are for the good of the American people, not everyone else.


    And what is that in terms of context?

    For example, of this $150B claim, how much of it is ICE law enforcement
    simply because our immigration laws are profoundly stricter today vs a
    century ago?

    Because in 2022, immigrants generated roughly $1.6 trillion in economic activity and contributed more than $579 billion in local, state, and
    federal taxes.

    You can’t just look at only the “bad” numbers.

    Likewise, the 60% of employed Americans doesn’t mean that 40% of our population can go get a job tomorrow: this number includes millions of retirees as well as millions of school (& preschool) kids.

    The fact that unemployment is well below 5% (the classical definition of “full employment “) despite the supposed “hordes” here now shows that they
    are filling labor shortages without harming Americans.


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Sat May 17 10:39:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 2:19 PM, howie ruffe wrote:
    On 15 May 2025, Attila<prochoice@here.now> posted some news:6c6b2kdf0m37r8r2rtf38hqgvn0e06k3o1@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:38:44 -0700, Ubiquitous
    <webspermeater@polaris.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <nupUP.470453$bRfb.459910@fx16.iad> wrote:

    The Crisis of American Leadership Reaches an Empty Desert

    By Lynsey Addario
    Introduction by Anne Applebaum

    May 12, 2025, 8 AM ET

    In Tiné, a barren desert town in eastern Chad, the first humanitarian
    crisis of the post-American world is now unfolding. Thousands of
    people fleeing the civil war in Sudan’s Darfur region have recently
    arrived there after enduring long journeys in relentless, 100-degree
    heat. Many have nothing—they report being beaten, robbed, or raped
    along the way—and almost nothing awaits them in Tiné. Due in part to
    the Trump administration’s devastating cuts to foreign aid, only a
    skeleton staff of international humanitarian workers are on hand to
    receive them. There are shortages of food, water, medicine, and
    shelter in Tiné, and few resources to move people anywhere else.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/05/humanitarian-
    disaster-sudan-chad/682758/?gift=YoOw1dbISDjPCtDaBZ4quYjHB_ZYNQypsX5dN6
    eHsDQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    https://tinyurl.com/Trump-murdering-Africans

    Humanitarian assistance from the United States was the single biggest
    pillar of American soft power back when the presidency was held by
    decent people. It was why the world admired and respected the U.S.
    Trump, a demented cretin, threw all that away.

    Ann Applebaum and Lynsey Addario had no tears to shed when Joe Biden
    provided 2,000 pound bunker buster bombs to Israel to drop on refugees, including children and babies in the walled in prison Gaza ghetto.
    These women seem very selective in how they determine which presidents
    are "decent" and which ones are "demented cretins". They are fine with Israeli "leaders" making sure there is no food and water or functioning hospitals for the people of Gaza. Their outrage is strictly limited to
    Orange Man Bad. Even in the darkest days of yellow journalism, American
    media lords maintained some level of integrity and decency. Not for "journalists" like Ann Applebaum and Lynsey Addario.


    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.
    Exactly.

    The US Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises" in Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. This power
    is specifically authorized to pay debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.

    United States, not lazy good-for-nothing welfare states.


    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Maxm@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 19:18:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16 May 2025, howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> posted some news:1008dv4$s0o$9@toxic.dizum.net:

    On 15 May 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:1005vu4$3d0hv$4@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    I have yet to see Mayorkas called to task for this. He stood by and
    enabled it all.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the world's
    whore. Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.

    Globalism is socialism. That's the problem.

    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the problem.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Maxm@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 19:19:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 16 May 2025, Attila <prochoice@here.now> posted some news:rlef2kt02u4lg080e1b261kbugjp5ng9d0@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 11:28:26 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> in alt.atheism with message-id ><1007lir$3qpfe$4@dont-email.me> wrote:

    Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 06:46:58 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1007fj0$3pm3g$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 16/5/25 4:29, Attila wrote:
    Food aid to starving people in Sudan is well within the limits,
    you lying Nazi
    rapist.
    Not my problem.



    Lucky for you you can always afford food.

    Not luck. I worked for it.

    You're an ass.

    That's better than being whatever you are. I seldom hear
    from you but you must tolerate yourself constantly -
    forever.

    Ouch! That smarted.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Maxm on Sat May 17 15:12:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/17/2025 1:18 PM, Maxm wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:

    "Attila"<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.
    Why not?
    Why should it be?
    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.

    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.
    I have yet to see Mayorkas called to task for this. He stood by and
    enabled it all.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.
    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the world's
    whore. Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.
    Globalism is socialism. That's the problem.
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the problem.

    Saint John of Patmos foreshadowed this globalist governance in Book of Revelation. The Pandemic was a trial run.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 17:34:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/15/2025 5:12 PM, "pothole," chromosomally and anatomically male but not the
    least bit masculine, and who is deathly afraid of Rudy, lied:

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like Streisand, have walls.
    So does Biden, a large fence in fact.
    Border walls don't work, you stupid fat fuck. Walls around individual properties
    work. They're not the same, you stupid fuck.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon May 19 09:25:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message news:1007dqr$3p2c4$1@dont-email.me...
    On 5/15/25 20:12, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her
    responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter her
    home
    just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls.
    So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as the US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Since you allegedly went to a gifted high school, you should be able to do basic algebra:

    Cost of 2K miles of physical barriers at $20M/mile = $40B
    Cost of ~3,000 watchtowers (500m spacing) at $5M ea = $15B
    Cost of technology/tower at $25M ea = $75B
    Cost of maintenance/tower at $2M ea = $6B
    Cost of staffing for 24/7 surveillance =$12B/yr
    And so on.

    Even with just the above, the cost is ~$1,000 per taxpayer household.
    Are you going to accept that much of a tax increase on personally?
    Because if not, then the next line very much applies to you:

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    -hh

    "The Cost of the Border Crisis: $150.7 Billion and Counting"

    https://budget.house.gov/press-release/the-cost-of-the-border-crisis-1507-billion-and-counting

    So for the cost of the Crisis we could have done the entire border and
    funded staffing for over a year at which point we only need to be considered with the costs of upkeep, upgrades, and staffing..

    Sounds like a bargain.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Mon May 19 16:40:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/17/25 23:42, howie ruffe wrote:
    On 17 May 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some news:607078895.769177316.288638.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.etern al-september.org:

    howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> wrote:
    On 16 May 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some
    news:1007dqr$3p2c4$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/15/25 20:12, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire >>>>>>>>> world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give
    her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay
    them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can
    enter her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as
    the US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Since you allegedly went to a gifted high school, you should be able
    to do basic algebra:

    Cost of 2K miles of physical barriers at $20M/mile = $40B
    Cost of ~3,000 watchtowers (500m spacing) at $5M ea = $15B
    Cost of technology/tower at $25M ea = $75B
    Cost of maintenance/tower at $2M ea = $6B
    Cost of staffing for 24/7 surveillance =$12B/yr
    And so on.

    Even with just the above, the cost is ~$1,000 per taxpayer
    household. Are you going to accept that much of a tax increase on
    personally? Because if not, then the next line very much applies to
    you:

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    Add this to your accounting.

    Americans now pay $150.7 billion dollars annually due to illegal
    immigration. This figure represents a net cost. The gross estimate
    is around $182 billion.

    Approximately 60% of the USA is employed.

    Thus, based on $150 billion, illegal immigration costs each taxpayer
    $735 out of pocket to provide health care, clothing, housing,
    transportation, legal representation, child care, educations, food,
    free phones, free internet, EBT cards etc.

    All things Americans must work and pay for. Well, most ot them
    anyway.

    Taxes are for the good of the American people, not everyone else.


    And what is that in terms of context?

    For example, of this $150B claim, how much of it is ICE law
    enforcement simply because our immigration laws are profoundly
    stricter today vs a century ago?

    Not one single penny. This is in addition to that cost.

    Nope. Because I looked up your number before I even asked:

    The costs are $180B in law enforcement, less what they claimed as only
    $30B in payment benefits to get to your net cost of $150B.

    Thus, the ramifications are that if immigration was liberalized, most
    all of that baseline ICE enforcement $180B expense would disappear.


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon May 19 23:59:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 2025-05-19, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 19:18:39 -0000 (UTC), Maxm <maxm@mindsprung.com>
    wrote:

    On 16 May 2025, howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> posted some >>news:1008dv4$s0o$9@toxic.dizum.net:

    On 15 May 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some
    news:1005vu4$3d0hv$4@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire
    world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give her >>>>> responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can enter
    her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    I have yet to see Mayorkas called to task for this. He stood by and
    enabled it all.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the world's
    whore. Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.

    Globalism is socialism. That's the problem.

    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking asylum/protection
    and millions of people coached to answer a questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
    Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon May 19 17:41:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking asylum/protection
    and millions of people coached to answer a questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From stu winthrop@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 02:19:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From stu winthrop@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 02:21:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.computer.workshop
    XPost: alt.goat, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 19 May 2025, % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted some news:KXadnYX18YiGSbb1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com:

    pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-19, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 19:18:39 -0000 (UTC), Maxm <maxm@mindsprung.com>
    wrote:

    On 16 May 2025, howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> posted some
    news:1008dv4$s0o$9@toxic.dizum.net:

    On 15 May 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some
    news:1005vu4$3d0hv$4@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire >>>>>>>>>> world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all,
    give her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to
    pay them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can
    enter her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    I have yet to see Mayorkas called to task for this. He stood by
    and enabled it all.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    It's time for the USA to close it's legs and stop being the
    world's whore. Let other countries pick up the slack.
    Sorry for the vulgar language.

    Globalism is socialism. That's the problem.

    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    this is pothead crossposting ,
    after asking me why i do it

    Well? Did you answer?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 100gors$akh$5@toxic.dizum.net on Tue May 20 07:01:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 02:19:40 -0000 (UTC), stu winthrop
    <none@pigman.org> in alt.atheism with message-id <100gors$akh$5@toxic.dizum.net> wrote:

    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    A lot of people are asking that.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From o.com@21:1/5 to stu winthrop on Tue May 20 07:58:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue May 20 15:30:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 17:01:23 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Never look a grift horse in the butt.
    <https://x.com/governorswill/header_photo>


    oh you have an x account, me too!

    but i dont think its wise to share such things.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to o.com on Tue May 20 11:54:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Siri Cruise" <chink.blow@yah o.com> wrote in message news:cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad...
    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to o.com on Tue May 20 11:56:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Siri Cruise" <chink.blow@yah o.com> wrote in message news:cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad...
    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    "The same disastrous catch-and-release policies that let the killers of
    Laken Riley, Rachel Morin, and Jocelyn Nungaray loose into the country are
    also still in use by this administration––regardless of the consequences. Throughout the month of August, reports showed members of the Venezuelan
    gang Tren de Aragua had brutally taken over multiple apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado. Jhonardy Jose Pacheco-Chirino, the alleged ‘shot-caller’ of the gang crossed Southwest border in 2022, was caught and released into
    the United States. At least one of these alleged gang members entered the United States using the CBP One app. Last month, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arresteda Haitian national who entered the U.S. in June
    2023 via the CHNV mass-parole program. In March, he was charged with the
    rape of a 15-year-old girl in a migrant shelter in Boston. On August 13, Peruvian gang leader, Gianfranco Torres-Navarro, wanted for the murder of at least 23 people in his home country was arrested in New York three months
    after he was caught and released at the Southwest border."

    https://homeland.house.gov/2024/09/23/startling-stats-factsheet-biden-and-harris-border-crisis-still-wreaking-havoc-at-the-borders-and-in-the-interior/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From o.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 10:51:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad on Tue May 20 13:37:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad on Tue May 20 16:42:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ralph@21:1/5 to howie ruffe on Tue May 20 16:09:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/17/2025 8:42 PM, howie ruffe wrote:
    On 17 May 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some news:607078895.769177316.288638.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.etern al-september.org:

    howie ruffe <hruffe@csu.edu> wrote:
    On 16 May 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some
    news:1007dqr$3p2c4$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/15/25 20:12, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-05-15, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:


    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
    news:n3tb2kdovd4u6fnm1gbi1j4erj2dmociku@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 02:55:12 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1004dkl$32hmm$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 15/5/25 0:37, Attila wrote:

    It is not the responsibility of the US to support the entire >>>>>>>>> world.

    Why not?

    Why should it be?

    Well, we could start sending out checks to Siri.. after all, give
    her responsibility to support others, she will be happy to pay
    them.

    Unless her beliefs are only for other people.


    Maybe she can leave her door unlocked at night so migrants can
    enter her home just like they did the border under Biden.

    According to the libtards, walls don't work yet the elite, like
    Streisand, have walls. So does Biden, a large fence in fact.


    Its not that it can't work: it is scale and the cost thereof, as
    the US-Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles in length.

    Since you allegedly went to a gifted high school, you should be able
    to do basic algebra:

    Cost of 2K miles of physical barriers at $20M/mile = $40B
    Cost of ~3,000 watchtowers (500m spacing) at $5M ea = $15B
    Cost of technology/tower at $25M ea = $75B
    Cost of maintenance/tower at $2M ea = $6B
    Cost of staffing for 24/7 surveillance =$12B/yr
    And so on.

    Even with just the above, the cost is ~$1,000 per taxpayer
    household. Are you going to accept that much of a tax increase on
    personally? Because if not, then the next line very much applies to
    you:

    Hypocrites every last one of them.

    Add this to your accounting.

    Americans now pay $150.7 billion dollars annually due to illegal
    immigration. This figure represents a net cost. The gross estimate
    is around $182 billion.

    Approximately 60% of the USA is employed.

    Thus, based on $150 billion, illegal immigration costs each taxpayer
    $735 out of pocket to provide health care, clothing, housing,
    transportation, legal representation, child care, educations, food,
    free phones, free internet, EBT cards etc.

    All things Americans must work and pay for. Well, most ot them
    anyway.

    Taxes are for the good of the American people, not everyone else.


    And what is that in terms of context?

    For example, of this $150B claim, how much of it is ICE law
    enforcement simply because our immigration laws are profoundly
    stricter today vs a century ago?

    Not one single penny. This is in addition to that cost.

    That's one year. Since that clown Obama got in office, the cost must be
    well over a $ trillion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 06:59:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise <chink.blow@yah o.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    And yet they are here. How did they get here if they weren't let it?

    Well?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Attila on Wed May 21 07:00:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:42:15 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted: >>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    It's a Rudely impersonation. You can ignore him as he's a sub average
    troll.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to o.com on Wed May 21 08:47:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Siri Cruise" <chink.blow@yah o.com> wrote in message news:Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad...
    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist,
    bullshitted:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the
    problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Translation: Who needs facts? My ignorance and bigotry is good enough.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to ehcr2khfauq7lpje4rogkfjvri21rcgjvc@ on Wed May 21 09:17:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 07:00:32 -0400, NoBody
    <NoBody@nowhere.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <ehcr2khfauq7lpje4rogkfjvri21rcgjvc@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:42:15 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted: >>>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking >>>>>>>> asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can >>>>>>> request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on >>>>>>> whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists, >>>>>> murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    It's a Rudely impersonation. You can ignore him as he's a sub average
    troll.

    I thought it sounded a lot like him. He accounts for a
    large percentage of the posts here.

    I ignore him upon identification.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From jojo@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed May 21 15:26:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 15:30:02 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 17:01:23 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Never look a grift horse in the butt.
    <https://x.com/governorswill/header_photo>


    oh you have an x account, me too!

    but i dont think its wise to share such things.

    What do you have to hide?


    ok i have to say something, i am the real donald j trump.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Attila on Wed May 21 19:21:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 21/5/25 6:17, Attila wrote:
    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    It's a Rudely impersonation. You can ignore him as he's a sub average
    troll.
    I thought it sounded a lot like him. He accounts for a
    large percentage of the posts here.

    I ignore him upon identification.

    He pretends when I guess I do not post what he wants me to.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 22 07:18:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 09:17:14 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 07:00:32 -0400, NoBody
    <NoBody@nowhere.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><ehcr2khfauq7lpje4rogkfjvri21rcgjvc@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:42:15 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted: >>>>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking >>>>>>>>> asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a >>>>>>>>> questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can >>>>>>>> request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on >>>>>>>> whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists, >>>>>>> murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    It's a Rudely impersonation. You can ignore him as he's a sub average >>troll.

    I thought it sounded a lot like him. He accounts for a
    large percentage of the posts here.

    I ignore him upon identification.

    Kinda pathetic that he gets off on pretending to be someone else.

    Weird dude.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to iu1u2k1b4669f3lkavu6g965ifkfiesbr2@ on Thu May 22 09:09:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 07:18:04 -0400, NoBody
    <NoBody@nowhere.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <iu1u2k1b4669f3lkavu6g965ifkfiesbr2@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 09:17:14 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 07:00:32 -0400, NoBody
    <NoBody@nowhere.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><ehcr2khfauq7lpje4rogkfjvri21rcgjvc@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:42:15 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>><Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking >>>>>>>>>> asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a >>>>>>>>>> questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can >>>>>>>>> request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on >>>>>>>>> whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists, >>>>>>>> murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    It's a Rudely impersonation. You can ignore him as he's a sub average >>>troll.

    I thought it sounded a lot like him. He accounts for a
    large percentage of the posts here.

    I ignore him upon identification.

    Kinda pathetic that he gets off on pretending to be someone else.

    Weird dude.

    The only way he can get any attention is to change his name.
    He is universally loathed by everyone and he seems to love
    it.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 22 10:53:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    "Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message news:pc8u2kt7qfd6qdg3ud1rt445jp95uk2elf@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 07:18:04 -0400, NoBody
    <NoBody@nowhere.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <iu1u2k1b4669f3lkavu6g965ifkfiesbr2@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 09:17:14 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Wed, 21 May 2025 07:00:32 -0400, NoBody
    <NoBody@nowhere.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><ehcr2khfauq7lpje4rogkfjvri21rcgjvc@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:42:15 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, >>>>>>bullshitted:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>> news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking >>>>>>>>>>> asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a >>>>>>>>>>> questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can >>>>>>>>>> request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on >>>>>>>>>> whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists, >>>>>>>>> murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I >>>>>>just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    Don't confuse you with facts your mind is made up.

    It's a Rudely impersonation. You can ignore him as he's a sub average >>>>troll.

    I thought it sounded a lot like him. He accounts for a
    large percentage of the posts here.

    I ignore him upon identification.

    Kinda pathetic that he gets off on pretending to be someone else.

    Weird dude.

    The only way he can get any attention is to change his name.
    He is universally loathed by everyone and he seems to love
    it.

    Loathing is attention and Rudy will take whatever he can get.. even if it's negative... as it's better than no attention.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to with message-id on Thu May 22 18:05:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 10:53:11 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
    with message-id <100negv$3h5nl$26@dont-email.me> wrote:

    The only way he can get any attention is to change his name.
    He is universally loathed by everyone and he seems to love
    it.

    Loathing is attention and Rudy will take whatever he can get.. even if it's >negative... as it's better than no attention.

    That's why I said he seems to love it. Talking to him is
    just feeding the trolls.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From o.com@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 23 09:52:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 5/20/2025 1:42 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist, bullshitted: >>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking
    asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they can
    request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go based on
    whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted rapists,
    murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist. I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    No.


    Don't confuse you with facts

    I know the facts and you don't.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Flitt@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 23 21:33:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 23 May 2025, Rudy <chink.blow@yah o.com> posted some news:WI1YP.90237$0DKa.10130@fx14.iad:

    On 5/20/2025 1:42 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:51:43 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Qi3XP.287289$rkV6.126300@fx46.iad> wrote:

    On 5/20/2025 10:37 AM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth and rapist,
    bullshitted:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:58:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah o.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <cM0XP.24054$Rzha.21026@fx02.iad> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 7:19 PM, stu winthrop wrote:
    On 19 May 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:100gj3g$1smsn$8@dont-email.me:

    On 19/5/25 16:59, pothead wrote:
    It's control without governance or oversight. THAT's the >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.

    So . . . Trump is the problem?

    There is a difference between real, legitimate refugees seeking >>>>>>>> asylum/protection and millions of people coached to answer a
    questionnaire the correct way.

    Research farmers in SA.

    Asylum is not economic immigration. If they want asylum, they
    can request it. Once they get their hearing, they stay or go
    based on whether they qualify under our laws.

    Why did Biden and Mayorkas let in so many known convicted
    rapists, murderers, thieves and gang members?

    They didn't.

    How do you (and they) know?

    It doesn't matter "how" I know, you subhuman Nazi filth and rapist.
    I just know.

    Typical. An invisible fairy whispered it in your ear.

    No.


    Don't confuse you with facts

    I know the facts and you don't.

    You know what time to be on your knees in the Jolly Kone parking lot.
    That's a fact.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)