So the green button of the traffic lights will either fullscreen an appdisable fullscreen *or* invert the features :/
if it supports fullscreen, or maximise ("zoom") its window if not.
An app that supports fullscreen can be told to zoom instead by holding
opt when you click green.
Is there a tweak to either disable fullscreen invert the features, so
the default action on clicking green is zoom and you'd need to hold opt
to get fullscreen?
I've manage to wangle BetterTouchTool to do it: Set up an "other"
trigger, green button, "zoom window under cursor" and that overrides the native "fullscreen" function. But (a) costs €20ish and (b) is a little flaky, it crashes for me occasionally or stops functioning and needs a restart. I'm looking to set this up for someone who gets confused if
they don't have windowed apps, even if we set "menu bar doesn't hide".
Onyx doesn't do it. I couldn't find a 'defaults write' for it. Anyone
know a way?
Cheers - Jaimie
So the green button of the traffic lights will either fullscreen an app
if it supports fullscreen, or maximise ("zoom") its window if not.
An app that supports fullscreen can be told to zoom instead by holding
opt when you click green.
Is there a tweak to either disable fullscreen invert the features, so
the default action on clicking green is zoom and you'd need to hold opt
to get fullscreen?
I've manage to wangle BetterTouchTool to do it: Set up an "other"
trigger, green button, "zoom window under cursor" and that overrides the native "fullscreen" function. But (a) costs ¤20ish and (b) is a little
flaky, it crashes for me occasionally or stops functioning and needs a restart. I'm looking to set this up for someone who gets confused if
they don't have windowed apps, even if we set "menu bar doesn't hide".
Onyx doesn't do it. I couldn't find a 'defaults write' for it. Anyone
know a way?
In article <k86uh5Fq3shU1@mid.individual.net>, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
So the green button of the traffic lights will either fullscreen an app
if it supports fullscreen, or maximise ("zoom") its window if not.
An app that supports fullscreen can be told to zoom instead by holding
opt when you click green.
Is there a tweak to either disable fullscreen invert the features, so
the default action on clicking green is zoom and you'd need to hold opt
to get fullscreen?
I've manage to wangle BetterTouchTool to do it: Set up an "other"
trigger, green button, "zoom window under cursor" and that overrides the
native "fullscreen" function. But (a) costs ¤20ish and (b) is a little
flaky, it crashes for me occasionally or stops functioning and needs a
restart. I'm looking to set this up for someone who gets confused if
they don't have windowed apps, even if we set "menu bar doesn't hide".
Onyx doesn't do it. I couldn't find a 'defaults write' for it. Anyone
know a way?
i haven't tried this but it sounds like it might work: <https://blazingtools.com/right_zoom_mac.html>
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is
unaffected.
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 13:28:28 +0000, Martin S Taylor wrote:
On 25 Mar 2023, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote (in article
<k8761jFr5f5U1@mid.individual.net>):
Tested and it does - thanks! Somewhat grey-hat kinda tools site mind,
keyloggers and keylogger detectors...
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is
unaffected.
Good thought, I'll set that up as well.
While we're here, I don't suppose there's a way to automatically disable
the Dock when an app is in fullscreen, is there? Or even manually to
disable the Dock on a particular screen?
To me it seems that if an app is in fullscreen, you have it like that
because you don't want to use any other apps, so why have the Dock
cluttering up the available area?
I set the Dock to Auto Hide but not sure how that would fare in fullscreen mode.
Tested and it does - thanks! Somewhat grey-hat kinda tools site mind, keyloggers and keylogger detectors...
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is unaffected.
Good thought, I'll set that up as well.
On 25 Mar 2023, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote (in article <k8761jFr5f5U1@mid.individual.net>):
Tested and it does - thanks! Somewhat grey-hat kinda tools site mind,
keyloggers and keylogger detectors...
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is
unaffected.
Good thought, I'll set that up as well.
While we're here, I don't suppose there's a way to automatically disable
the Dock when an app is in fullscreen, is there? Or even manually to
disable the Dock on a particular screen?
To me it seems that if an app is in fullscreen, you have it like that
because you don't want to use any other apps, so why have the Dock
cluttering up the available area?
While we're here, I don't suppose there's a way to automatically disable the Dock when an app is in fullscreen, is there? Or even manually to disable the Dock on a particular screen?
To me it seems that if an app is in fullscreen, you have it like that because you don't want to use any other apps, so why have the Dock cluttering up the available area?
I set the Dock to Auto Hide but not sure how that would fare in fullscreen mode.
Just put Safari in full screen mode and auto hide seemed to work as normal.
I set the Dock to Auto Hide but not sure how that would fare in fullscreen
mode.
Just put Safari in full screen mode and auto hide seemed to work as normal.
No, I don't want it to auto-hide (which equates to "auto-appear"). I want it not to be available at all.
No, I don't want it to auto-hide (which equates to "auto-appear"). I want it
not to be available at all.
without the dock running, you would be unable to switch to another app
and various other things would break. that would be bad.
however, you can set an autohide delay so it doesn't immediately
appear. for example, this sets it to appear after 5 seconds:
defaults write com.apple.dock "autohide-delay" -float 5 && killall Dock
this will restore the default setting:
defaults delete com.apple.dock "autohide-delay" && killall Dock
So the green button of the traffic lights will either fullscreen an app
if it supports fullscreen, or maximise ("zoom") its window if not.
An app that supports fullscreen can be told to zoom instead by holding
opt when you click green.
Is there a tweak to either disable fullscreen invert the features, so
the default action on clicking green is zoom and you'd need to hold opt
to get fullscreen?
On 25 Mar 2023, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
(in article <k8761jFr5f5U1@mid.individual.net>):
Tested and it does - thanks! Somewhat grey-hat kinda tools site mind,
keyloggers and keylogger detectors...
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is
unaffected.
Good thought, I'll set that up as well.
While we're here, I don't suppose there's a way to automatically disable the Dock when an app is in fullscreen, is there? Or even manually to disable the Dock on a particular screen?
To me it seems that if an app is in fullscreen, you have it like that because you don't want to use any other apps, so why have the Dock cluttering up the available area?
On 25/03/2023 13:28, Martin S Taylor wrote:
On 25 Mar 2023, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
(in article <k8761jFr5f5U1@mid.individual.net>):
Tested and it does - thanks! Somewhat grey-hat kinda tools site mind,
keyloggers and keylogger detectors...
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is
unaffected.
Good thought, I'll set that up as well.
While we're here, I don't suppose there's a way to automatically disable the >> Dock when an app is in fullscreen, is there? Or even manually to disable the >> Dock on a particular screen?
To me it seems that if an app is in fullscreen, you have it like that because
you don't want to use any other apps, so why have the Dock cluttering up the >> available area?
I don't know of a way to do what you want but the keyboard shortcut option-cmd-D toggles Dock auto-hiding. It's relatively painless to type
when you go into full screen mode - especially if you have the Dock
visible all the time as that reminds you to hide it. :-)
On 27 Mar 2023 at 21:58:32 BST, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
On 25/03/2023 13:28, Martin S Taylor wrote:
On 25 Mar 2023, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
(in article <k8761jFr5f5U1@mid.individual.net>):
Tested and it does - thanks! Somewhat grey-hat kinda tools site mind,
keyloggers and keylogger detectors...
another option is go to system prefs>dock and tick double-click
window's title bar to {zoom}. unfortunately, the green button is
unaffected.
Good thought, I'll set that up as well.
While we're here, I don't suppose there's a way to automatically disable the
Dock when an app is in fullscreen, is there? Or even manually to disable the
Dock on a particular screen?
To me it seems that if an app is in fullscreen, you have it like that because
you don't want to use any other apps, so why have the Dock cluttering up the
available area?
I don't know of a way to do what you want but the keyboard shortcut
option-cmd-D toggles Dock auto-hiding. It's relatively painless to type
when you go into full screen mode - especially if you have the Dock
visible all the time as that reminds you to hide it. :-)
Now that I did NOT know. Thank you.
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