it’s telling you want you want to know,
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:51:49 +0000, Spike wrote:
it’s telling you want you want to know,
It has no idea what you want to know. It never had and never will.
It's just very clever pattern matching at phenomenal speeds. Which is why
it can't be contained or constrained. It has no idea what it is spewing
any more than a room full of monkeys taking words from books and making sentences according to rules they have observed.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:51:49 +0000, Spike wrote:
it’s telling you want you want to know,
It has no idea what you want to know. It never had and never will.
It probably has all your Amazon search and purchase history as well as knowing who all your friends are.
It's just very clever pattern matching at phenomenal speeds. Which is why
it can't be contained or constrained. It has no idea what it is spewing
any more than a room full of monkeys taking words from books and making
sentences according to rules they have observed.
Then the AI should have given the same review on each of the apps, but it didn’t.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
For example, it may simply provide different summaries for men and women, >because on the whole they are more interested in different characteristics
of the products. You may feel that is creepy or sexist, but it is no >different to a salesman emphasising the durability of the product to the >husband and the attractive design to the wife. (Please forgive the >stereotypes. It's just an example.)
We need a replacement small electric item for kitchen use, so my wife and I were searching Amazon for suitable items, each using the Amazon app on our smartphones.
One of us found a suitable item, and mentioned it to the other. Looking at the same item but on the different phones, we rapidly discovered that the AI-generated review summary was completely different between the two apps, yet the individual reviews were the same.
It would appear that the AI is generating its summary based at least in
part on the individual user’s ‘Amazon Experience’ and not wholly on a summation of the actual product reviews.
Conclusion: don’t trust anything the AI says, it’s telling you want you want to know, read the reviews instead and make up your own mind.
GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:
On 14/07/2024 11:39, Spike wrote:
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:51:49 +0000, Spike wrote:
it’s telling you want you want to know,
It has no idea what you want to know. It never had and never will.
It probably has all your Amazon search and purchase history as well as
knowing who all your friends are.
It's just very clever pattern matching at phenomenal speeds. Which is why >>>> it can't be contained or constrained. It has no idea what it is spewing >>>> any more than a room full of monkeys taking words from books and making >>>> sentences according to rules they have observed.
Then the AI should have given the same review on each of the apps, but it >>> didn’t.
The AI is more sophisticated than you expected, apparently, but I'm not
sure that's sinister. It uses information Amazon holds about you so that
it can summarise the information about the product that its programmers
have deemed to be most helpful to you.
ITYM ‘most helpful to Amazon’.
For example, it may simply provide different summaries for men and
women, because on the whole they are more interested in different
characteristics of the products. You may feel that is creepy or sexist,
but it is no different to a salesman emphasising the durability of the
product to the husband and the attractive design to the wife. (Please
forgive the stereotypes. It's just an example.)
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
On 14/07/2024 11:39, Spike wrote:
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:51:49 +0000, Spike wrote:
it’s telling you want you want to know,
It has no idea what you want to know. It never had and never will.
It probably has all your Amazon search and purchase history as well as
knowing who all your friends are.
It's just very clever pattern matching at phenomenal speeds. Which is why >>> it can't be contained or constrained. It has no idea what it is spewing
any more than a room full of monkeys taking words from books and making
sentences according to rules they have observed.
Then the AI should have given the same review on each of the apps, but it
didn’t.
The AI is more sophisticated than you expected, apparently, but I'm not
sure that's sinister. It uses information Amazon holds about you so that
it can summarise the information about the product that its programmers
have deemed to be most helpful to you.
For example, it may simply provide different summaries for men and
women, because on the whole they are more interested in different characteristics of the products. You may feel that is creepy or sexist,
but it is no different to a salesman emphasising the durability of the product to the husband and the attractive design to the wife. (Please
forgive the stereotypes. It's just an example.)
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:51:49 +0000, Spike wrote:
it’s telling you want you want to know,
It has no idea what you want to know. It never had and never will.
It probably has all your Amazon search and purchase history as well as knowing who all your friends are.
It's just very clever pattern matching at phenomenal speeds. Which is
why it can't be contained or constrained. It has no idea what it is
spewing any more than a room full of monkeys taking words from books
and making sentences according to rules they have observed.
Then the AI should have given the same review on each of the apps, but
it didn’t.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
On 14/07/2024 12:16, Spike wrote:
GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:
On 14/07/2024 11:39, Spike wrote:
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:51:49 +0000, Spike wrote:
it’s telling you want you want to know,
It has no idea what you want to know. It never had and never will.
It probably has all your Amazon search and purchase history as well
as knowing who all your friends are.
It's just very clever pattern matching at phenomenal speeds. Which
is why it can't be contained or constrained. It has no idea what it
is spewing any more than a room full of monkeys taking words from
books and making sentences according to rules they have observed.
Then the AI should have given the same review on each of the apps,
but it didn’t.
The AI is more sophisticated than you expected, apparently, but I'm
not sure that's sinister. It uses information Amazon holds about you
so that it can summarise the information about the product that its
programmers have deemed to be most helpful to you.
ITYM ‘most helpful to Amazon’.
I really don't know why Amazon bothered to introduce the system.
Perhaps, they found that people were spending ages reading the reviews
and then getting distracted from buying?
On 14/07/2024 10:51, Spike wrote:
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Amazon reviews should also be taken with a huge pinch of salt.
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Amazon reviews should also be taken with a huge pinch of salt. They
lump together reviews from different products and/or from different manufacturers. What you may be reading is a review from something completely different to the item described and the photo above.
I have written a few reviews about good and bad items on sale on Amazon
or Amazon marketplace but having known about them lumping together
reviews for different, but maybe similar, products I always start my
review by stating exactly which product I have purchased, 99.9% of
reviewer don't do this.
I also tend to read from the 1 star reviews first especially if there
are a large percentage of reviews saying the same thing.
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