https://nitter.net/SuellaBraverman/status/1727713562175381618
Perhaps "Ottavio Caruso" will answer the substantive point
Somw of that, shorn of the mouth-foam, is no more than a statement of the bleeding obvious. More people -> more income for the Govt.
On 19/12/2023 20:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <ulsej5$3qse$1@dont-email.me>, Fredxx
<fredxx@spam.invalid> writes
On 19/12/2023 12:37, Ian Jackson wrote:https://shorturl.at/yYZ36
In message <ulq95d$3ldm4$1@dont-email.me>, Vir Campestris >>>><vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> writes
On 18/12/2023 17:11, Tim Jackson wrote:It was only in the last few days before the vote that the
In any other election, you get a chance to vote differently five years >>>>>> later (or sooner), if things haven't worked out as you expected.
On Brexit, for some time now the opinion polls have consistently
demonstrated that a significant majority of the electorate now think >>>>>> things haven't worked out as expected, and they would have voted
differently.
Didn't the same opinion polls make the same forecasts before the vote? >>>>>
predictions became wrong (to a fair extent because of Nigel
Farage's alarmist and misleading poster).
Which poster do you have in mind? And why do you associate the
poster with Nigel Farage? Apart from being so desperate to assign
any responsibility to Farage.
As usual, you insist on ignoring the fact that the UK economy started >>going over the cliff the moment the referendum result was announced.
I suppose you've conveniently forgotten the alarmism of economic >>>meltdown and the mentions of Armageddon. Were they from Nigel Farage >>>perchance?
It was only some immediate clever juggling and trickery by the Bank
if England that managed to drag it back.
So your simply agreeing that the threat of economic meltdown and the
mentions of Armageddon was a lie. Solved with a bit of "clever juggling
and trickery by the Bank if England".
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:37:54 +1100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
On 24 Dec 2023 at 23:23:41 GMT, "Rod Speed" wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 03:59:05 +1100, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
wrote:
On 19/12/2023 22:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 19/12/2023 in message <op.2f7zjljmbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>
Absolutely spot on.In any Rejoin campaign there will be no need to use the vastly
over-optimistic speculation and prediction (the sort that was so >>>>>>> prevalent during the Leave campaign). The evidence is here and now, >>>>>>> and for all to see. All the Leave campaign can honestly rely on is >>>>>>> to
claim that it is still early days, and given time the benefits of >>>>>>> Brexit really WILL start to become apparent.
The benefits are already apparent with the UK
being free to do whatever it likes policy wise now.
Brexit was never about economic benefits except in the sense
that the UK would no longer have to pay the EU billions a year.
Also spot on is the fact that any 'saving' from EU membership
is hugely outweighed by the clearly stated permanent drop in
GDP directly as a result of leaving.
That is just another bare faced remoaner lie.
Hardly bare-faced. Even the OBR estimates around 4% gross reduction in
GDP . .
But that isnt anything even remotely like PERMANENT. .
On 25 Dec 2023 at 08:56:09 GMT, "Rod Speed" wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:37:54 +1100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
On 24 Dec 2023 at 23:23:41 GMT, "Rod Speed" wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 03:59:05 +1100, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
wrote:
On 19/12/2023 22:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 19/12/2023 in message <op.2f7zjljmbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>
Absolutely spot on.In any Rejoin campaign there will be no need to use the vastly >>>>>>>> over-optimistic speculation and prediction (the sort that was so >>>>>>>> prevalent during the Leave campaign). The evidence is here and now, >>>>>>>> and for all to see. All the Leave campaign can honestly rely on is >>>>>>>> to
claim that it is still early days, and given time the benefits of >>>>>>>> Brexit really WILL start to become apparent.
The benefits are already apparent with the UK
being free to do whatever it likes policy wise now.
Brexit was never about economic benefits except in the sense
that the UK would no longer have to pay the EU billions a year.
Also spot on is the fact that any 'saving' from EU membership
is hugely outweighed by the clearly stated permanent drop in
GDP directly as a result of leaving.
That is just another bare faced remoaner lie.
Hardly bare-faced. Even the OBR estimates around 4% gross reduction in
GDP . .
But that isnt anything even remotely like PERMANENT. .
Not entirely sure why I bother, but here goes:
Anyway, merry xmas all :-)
If we wanted the economic benefits, why didn't we just stay in the
EEC? See my sig.
Its an example of where you stupid pig ignorant claim about
why some houses are cheap is just plain wrong.
In article <un61re$3kam8$7@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 04/01/2024 10:12, alan_m wrote:
On 03/01/2024 22:07, Ian Jackson wrote:They believed the lies they were told, or they had strong [corrupt]
In message <xn0oge80bj1tbu800x@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
On 03/01/2024 in message <un424a$38rmo$3@dont-email.me> OttavioWell....
Caruso wrote:
SO what was the point of leaving the EU if even a relatively mild
pandemic affects the economy more?
Let us know when you have interviewed the 17,410,742 people who voted >>>>> to leave.
Some wanted to leave "to give Cameron a bloody nose".
Some wanted to leave "as a protest about the Tories' continuing policy >>>> of austerity".
Some wanted to leave "simply to see what would happen if Leave won".
Some wanted to leave "just to create a change".
Some wanted to leave 'because of all the silly rules - such as those
about bent/straight bananas" (honestly - they really did!).
and some wanted to leave because for other reasons.
I assume the remainers all voted for the same reason?
financial interests that were threatened by Brexit.
The UK used to be a trading nation. I was (and still am) concerned that
the UK's viability would be compromised.
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