one wrote:
A sense of self could emerge naturally, given an outside and inside.
In me that sentence evokes the image of a world split into two halfes,
say black below and white above, separated by a horizontal "border",
and then it starts turning, turning into the yin-yang symbol, and it
reminds me of one of the origins of the yin-yang symbol, the sunny
and shady sides of a hill that trade places during a day, due to the
apparent movement of the sun in the sky or in today's view the rotation
of the earth.
Richard Wilhelm in the Introduction of "I Ching or Book of Changes"
(transl. Cary F. Baynes):
In its primary meaning yin is ‘the cloudy’, ‘the overcast’ and yang means
actually ‘banners waving in the sun’, that is, something ‘shone upon’, or
bright. By transference the two concepts were applied to the light and
dark sides of a mountain or of a river. In the case of a mountain the
southern is the bright side and the northern the dark side, while in the
case of a river seen from above, it is the northern side that is bright
(yang), because it re ects the light, and the southern side that is in
shadow (yin).
one continued:
The line, a duality line, separating the two might be felt skin-wise.
Assuming that at least most adults in a typical conscious state would be
able to categorize practically everything they perceive as either inside
or outside, what separates the two would have to be invisible, because
if it was visible, it would be perceived as inside or outside, and hence would not be part of what separates them.
Hence the maybe simplest way of imagining what separates the two would
be as an infinitely thin "membrane", as a "skin", while since it would
by definition not be visible, it could still be arbitrarily complex.
one went on:
Feeling separate from the outside in some Way may
then follow and eventually alienation, identification, a
crisis of a sort leading to a resolution called Dao.
Sounds/feels quite natural to me.
aye one wrote:
Being unable to copy/paste is my second observation.
Just scroll down... ;)
I guess the site has a certain duality in itself, beautiful images
that cannot be so easily stolen and, yet, primarily for Google's
convenience and for other search engines, a plain html text...
one aye one wrote:
Without motion, how to determine duration
might require a clock of some sort.
I guess all clocks I know of just mirror and maybe transform motion
in some form, be it sand or water that flows, a spring that moves a
gear, a crystal or atom that is oscillating.
By the way, Usenet was probably founded around Xmas-New Year, don't
remember the year at this time, and Google will stop mirroring it
in about two months, and maybe it will end not more than about 10
years after that, speaking timewise... Astrologically, retrograde
Mercury just flowed back in time from Capricorn, ruled by Saturn,
in Greece Cronos, related to time Chronos, back into Sagittarius,
the sign often perceived as most philosophical.
Anybody here ever heard about Alberto Giaccometti's "Horizontal
Time"? Maybe look it up, actually you might find even something
about that specifically, if you dive a bit deeper into my site...
Beyond just in and out ("space"), I split things naively into
resting and moving ("time"):
emo: moves outside
ero: rests outside
emi: moves inside
eri: rests inside
Independently of whether that was a wise choice, it does mirror
the ancient Greek elements and also the trigrams of the I Ching,
as maybe too densely exposed on my site.
But no claims of having come closer to "ultimate truths", but
certainly new and interesting ways of circling them, like the
sun around a hill... ;)
dolf wrote something, not sure if immediately related to me
at all, at least not in the usual sense one might expect...:
You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader:
Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme
mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
identity.
Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some:
duplication.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
You got me. I wilfully (willfully?) omitted to mention the only thing
that was really worth mentioning in the context, plus unlike you I
wilfully (willfully?) refrained from crossposting to such obviously
related newsgroups as aus.politics and uk.legal, which you did...
But the year 103 BCE does ring a bell. Once more as so often in Usenet
for me less a conversation with other participants, but with something "bigger", something like the collective unconscious in some ways...
In my 2002 article "A few new discoveries in physics" (available on my website if you dig a little), that would have been the year in which the first star of the ("Western") constellation of Pisces, alpha Pisces,
Alrisha, crossed the spring equinox. It stands for the knot in the cord
that connects the two fish in the sky, mother and son, hence it can be
seen as the birth of the Age of Pisces, with the first about 400 years influenced by the vertical fish (son), when Christianity arose, and ever since the horizontal fish (mother), maybe still mourning her son.
In 2022 I calculated a year of 110 BCE instead of 103 BCE, but Alrisha
is a dual star, not sure now it is or was perceived precisely. Anyways,
the "cultural revolution" in China at the time seems to coincide with
that, too. In the West since about that time an astrology emerged that
was more detached from the stars, a tropical zodiac that is split into
12 signs of equal size, unlike the constellations, which are arbitrary
in the immediate sense anyways. If you split the Ages also that way and
start with Alrisha, the Age of Aquarius would start roughly in 2044,
when tropically Alrisha would move into Taurus.
Maybe that would be the end also of Usenet? ;)
Fool-of-Willy-wise hopefully not crossposting this one... :)
And thanks for the link...
dolf wrote:
: You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader
: Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme
: mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
: identity.
:
: Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some
: duplication.
I had never heard of the "canon of supreme mystery" before today
(or if I had, I would have forgotten about it...)
Wikipedia says it dates back to 2 BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing
Do you have references for an earlier date? Not that an earlier date
would be that astonishing, and in any case I would expect it to more
similar to the Tao Te Ching that comes in 81 parts, part of the 9 x 9
theme, with 3x3 x 3x3 = 9 x 9 tetragrams.
For more of my context see what I write about the I Ching, especially
in the leads related to transformations of elements...
https://www.exactphilosophy.net/iching.html
I like that (from Wikipedia):
- the unbroken line for heaven <-- FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
- once broken line for earth <-- FORMULA OF HUMANITY
- twice broken line for man <-- FORMULA OF AUTONOMY
<-- FORMULA OF PROGRESSION
reminding of the image of the tortoise/turtle with belly for earth
and back for heaven.
Anyways, sounds like something worth pondering a bit...
And also thanks to one for the replies... :)
Ah, maybe one bit:
one wrote
: No idea why servers serve users who use the network.
In the past practically every Internet provider had a newsserver,
I guess was initially also a matter of reducing traffic across
the continents, today with all the movie streaming and so on no
longer relevant. But since some time except eternal September
mainly provided by servers for "sharing binaries", typically
movies and games and software, I presume not all legal, at least
not everywhere, and still keeping text groups makes not difference
regarding network traffic or storage, but can be presented as
doing something in public interest. Since Covid, producers of
movies have apparently found ways to prevent movies and series
to end up on Usenet or rather to disappear quickly again. I did
post something to alt.binaries.misc in May (something legal),
and was astonished at the amount of password protected binary
posts... I could imagine that that would disappear at some
point, for legal reasons resp. political pressure on countries
like the Netherlands who host such servers. With the binaries
no longer shareable, I presume most or all of those servers
would just shut down. But I am not really an expert around these
things, just what I stitched together from what I know, but in
a way everything in life is a bit like that :)
One more thing:
The 28 (lunar) mansions in the Chinese sky were apparently in
roughly that form also known in the "West", at least as far
west as the Middle East, but at the moment no direct reference
at hand for that. Would imply that there was at least some
cultural interaction/interchange over long time spans, not
necessarily people travelling from "West" to "East" directly,
but more like from A to B, someone else from B to C, and so on
and thus over longer time spans communicating cultural ideas...
dolf wrote:
: You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader
: Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme
: mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
: identity.
:
: Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some
: duplication.
I had never heard of the "canon of supreme mystery" before today
(or if I had, I would have forgotten about it...)
Wikipedia says it dates back to 2 BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing
Do you have references for an earlier date? Not that an earlier date
would be that astonishing, and in any case I would expect it to more
similar to the Tao Te Ching that comes in 81 parts, part of the 9 x 9
theme, with 3x3 x 3x3 = 9 x 9 tetragrams.
For more of my context see what I write about the I Ching, especially
in the leads related to transformations of elements...
https://www.exactphilosophy.net/iching.html
I like that (from Wikipedia):
- the unbroken line for heaven <-- FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
- once broken line for earth <-- FORMULA OF HUMANITY
- twice broken line for man <-- FORMULA OF AUTONOMY
<-- FORMULA OF PROGRESSION
reminding of the image of the tortoise/turtle with belly for earth
and back for heaven.
Anyways, sounds like something worth pondering a bit...
And also thanks to one for the replies... :)
Ah, maybe one bit:
one wrote
: No idea why servers serve users who use the network.
In the past practically every Internet provider had a newsserver,
I guess was initially also a matter of reducing traffic across
the continents, today with all the movie streaming and so on no
longer relevant. But since some time except eternal September
mainly provided by servers for "sharing binaries", typically
movies and games and software, I presume not all legal, at least
not everywhere, and still keeping text groups makes not difference
regarding network traffic or storage, but can be presented as
doing something in public interest. Since Covid, producers of
movies have apparently found ways to prevent movies and series
to end up on Usenet or rather to disappear quickly again. I did
post something to alt.binaries.misc in May (something legal),
and was astonished at the amount of password protected binary
posts... I could imagine that that would disappear at some
point, for legal reasons resp. political pressure on countries
like the Netherlands who host such servers. With the binaries
no longer shareable, I presume most or all of those servers
would just shut down. But I am not really an expert around these
things, just what I stitched together from what I know, but in
a way everything in life is a bit like that :)
One more thing:
The 28 (lunar) mansions in the Chinese sky were apparently in
roughly that form also known in the "West", at least as far
west as the Middle East, but at the moment no direct reference
at hand for that. Would imply that there was at least some
cultural interaction/interchange over long time spans, not
necessarily people travelling from "West" to "East" directly,
but more like from A to B, someone else from B to C, and so on
and thus over longer time spans communicating cultural ideas...
dolf wrote:
: You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader
: Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme
: mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
: identity.
:
: Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some
: duplication.
I had never heard of the "canon of supreme mystery" before today
(or if I had, I would have forgotten about it...)
Wikipedia says it dates back to 2 BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing
Do you have references for an earlier date? Not that an earlier date
would be that astonishing, and in any case I would expect it to more
similar to the Tao Te Ching that comes in 81 parts, part of the 9 x 9
theme, with 3x3 x 3x3 = 9 x 9 tetragrams.
For more of my context see what I write about the I Ching, especially
in the leads related to transformations of elements...
https://www.exactphilosophy.net/iching.html
I like that (from Wikipedia):
- the unbroken line for heaven <-- FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
- once broken line for earth <-- FORMULA OF HUMANITY
- twice broken line for man <-- FORMULA OF AUTONOMY
<-- FORMULA OF PROGRESSION
reminding of the image of the tortoise/turtle with belly for earth
and back for heaven.
Anyways, sounds like something worth pondering a bit...
And also thanks to one for the replies... :)
Ah, maybe one bit:
one wrote
: No idea why servers serve users who use the network.
In the past practically every Internet provider had a newsserver,
I guess was initially also a matter of reducing traffic across
the continents, today with all the movie streaming and so on no
longer relevant. But since some time except eternal September
mainly provided by servers for "sharing binaries", typically
movies and games and software, I presume not all legal, at least
not everywhere, and still keeping text groups makes not difference
regarding network traffic or storage, but can be presented as
doing something in public interest. Since Covid, producers of
movies have apparently found ways to prevent movies and series
to end up on Usenet or rather to disappear quickly again. I did
post something to alt.binaries.misc in May (something legal),
and was astonished at the amount of password protected binary
posts... I could imagine that that would disappear at some
point, for legal reasons resp. political pressure on countries
like the Netherlands who host such servers. With the binaries
no longer shareable, I presume most or all of those servers
would just shut down. But I am not really an expert around these
things, just what I stitched together from what I know, but in
a way everything in life is a bit like that :)
One more thing:
The 28 (lunar) mansions in the Chinese sky were apparently in
roughly that form also known in the "West", at least as far
west as the Middle East, but at the moment no direct reference
at hand for that. Would imply that there was at least some
cultural interaction/interchange over long time spans, not
necessarily people travelling from "West" to "East" directly,
but more like from A to B, someone else from B to C, and so on
and thus over longer time spans communicating cultural ideas...
dolf wrote:
: You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader
: Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme
: mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
: identity.
:
: Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some
: duplication.
I had never heard of the "canon of supreme mystery" before today
(or if I had, I would have forgotten about it...)
Wikipedia says it dates back to 2 BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing
Do you have references for an earlier date? Not that an earlier date
would be that astonishing, and in any case I would expect it to more
similar to the Tao Te Ching that comes in 81 parts, part of the 9 x 9
theme, with 3x3 x 3x3 = 9 x 9 tetragrams.
For more of my context see what I write about the I Ching, especially
in the leads related to transformations of elements...
https://www.exactphilosophy.net/iching.html
I like that (from Wikipedia):
- the unbroken line for heaven <-- FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
- once broken line for earth <-- FORMULA OF HUMANITY
- twice broken line for man <-- FORMULA OF AUTONOMY
<-- FORMULA OF PROGRESSION
reminding of the image of the tortoise/turtle with belly for earth
and back for heaven.
Anyways, sounds like something worth pondering a bit...
And also thanks to one for the replies... :)
Ah, maybe one bit:
one wrote
: No idea why servers serve users who use the network.
In the past practically every Internet provider had a newsserver,
I guess was initially also a matter of reducing traffic across
the continents, today with all the movie streaming and so on no
longer relevant. But since some time except eternal September
mainly provided by servers for "sharing binaries", typically
movies and games and software, I presume not all legal, at least
not everywhere, and still keeping text groups makes not difference
regarding network traffic or storage, but can be presented as
doing something in public interest. Since Covid, producers of
movies have apparently found ways to prevent movies and series
to end up on Usenet or rather to disappear quickly again. I did
post something to alt.binaries.misc in May (something legal),
and was astonished at the amount of password protected binary
posts... I could imagine that that would disappear at some
point, for legal reasons resp. political pressure on countries
like the Netherlands who host such servers. With the binaries
no longer shareable, I presume most or all of those servers
would just shut down. But I am not really an expert around these
things, just what I stitched together from what I know, but in
a way everything in life is a bit like that :)
One more thing:
The 28 (lunar) mansions in the Chinese sky were apparently in
roughly that form also known in the "West", at least as far
west as the Middle East, but at the moment no direct reference
at hand for that. Would imply that there was at least some
cultural interaction/interchange over long time spans, not
necessarily people travelling from "West" to "East" directly,
but more like from A to B, someone else from B to C, and so on
and thus over longer time spans communicating cultural ideas...
IT DID THUNDER (#308 - *SEE* *BELOW*) IN OUR VILLAGE @ 0537 HOURS ON 26 DECEMBER 2023
#325 as [#200, #70, #40, #10, #5] = Raʻamyâh (H7485): {UMBRA: #325
% #41 = #38} 0) Raamiah = 'thunder of Jehovah'; 1) one who returned from exile with Zerubbabel; 1a) also 'Reelaiah';
#247 as [#7, #200, #40] = zerem (H2230): {UMBRA: #247 % #41 = #1}
1) rain-shower, thunderstorm, flood of rain, downpour, rain-storm;
<http://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?run:Temporal%20Noumenon%20Resonance&date:2023.6.14>
On 26/12/2023 03:38, Alain Stalder wrote:
dolf wrote:
You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader >>> Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme:
mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
identity.
Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some
duplication.
I had never heard of the "canon of supreme mystery" before today
(or if I had, I would have forgotten about it...)
Wikipedia says it dates back to 2 BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing
Do you have references for an earlier date? Not that an earlier date
It ought to be self apparent that because the order of the TETRADs as META-DESCRIPTORS which are a boundary to consciousness, are aligned to
the GRAND INCEPTION of 21 DECEMBER 103 BCE that one must have an
intellectual conception to do so.
As similarly the principle PYTHAGOREAN advocate PHILOLAUS (470-385 BCE) considered the Natural Year to be 364.5 days (ipso facto #81 x 4.5 days)
It's very likely given TETRAD: #80 - LABOURING (CH'IN) as the 4.5 day
locus prior that this is the viable etymology root for many Hebrew words
such as SIN #18 as [#8 - OPPOSITION (KAN), #9 - BRANCHING OUT (SHU), #1
- CENTER (CHUNG)] = châṭâʼ (H2398):
#18 as [#8, #9, #1] = châṭâʼ (H2398): {UMBRA: #18 % #41 = #18} 1) to sin, miss, miss the way, go wrong, incur guilt, forfeit, purify from uncleanness; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to miss; 1a2) to sin, miss the goal or path
of right and duty; 1a3) to incur guilt, incur penalty by sin, forfeit;
1b) (Piel); 1b1) to bear loss; 1b2) to make a sin-offering; 1b3) to
purify from sin; 1b4) to purify from uncleanness; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to
miss the mark; 1c2) to induce to sin, cause to sin; 1c3) to bring into
guilt or condemnation or punishment; 1d) (Hithpael); 1d1) to miss
oneself, lose oneself, wander from the way; 1d2) to purify oneself from uncleanness;
We find the unusual aggregation of 4 DAYS within the same locus to which
the Book of Daniel and Book of Jubilees written around #175 - #164 BCE
refers (ie. its possible that the abnormal 6 day aggregations are
temporal watches as prototypes related to the #EIGHT AUTONOMOUS
DELIMITER related to PYTHAGOREAN conception of number) as to suggest a CONSCIOUSNESS SINGULARITY:
PROTOTYPE vMEMETIC *DIALECTIC* TO CONSCIOUSNESS
#5 - ACT OF NATURE / NATURE REJOICES IN ITS NATURE: {HE}
#20 - TRANSFORMING NATURE: {RESH / DOUBLE - FORM OF NATURE (AUTONOMOUS NATURE)}
#6 - FORM OF NATURE / NATURE SURMOUNTS NATURE: {VAV}
#13 - NATURE CONTAINS NATURE: {MEM}
#1 - NATURE CONTAINS NATURE: {ALEPH}
— AUTONOMOUS DELIMITER —> #8 - TRANSFORMING NATURE / ACT OF NATURE: {CHETH)}
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGIluXdfXqY&t=61>
#10 - TOTALITY OF NATURE / ENGENDERING NATURE: {YOD}
#15 - NATURE SURMOUNTS NATURE: {SAMEK}
#12 - AUTONOMOUS NATURE: {LAMED}
#18 - FORM OF NATURE: {TSADE}
"BUT THOU, O DANIEL, *SHUT*-H5640: UP THE WORDS, AND *SEAL*-H2856: THE
BOOK, EVEN TO THE TIME OF THE END:
#500 as [#60, #400, #40] /
#508 as [#6, #2, #60, #400, #40] = çâtham (H5640): {UMBRA: #500 % #41 =
#8} 1) to stop up, shut up, keep close; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to stop up; 1a2)
to shut up, keep close; 1a3) secret (participle); 1b) (Niphal) to be
stopped up; 1c) (Piel) to stop up;
#448 as [#8, #400, #40] /
#509 - ISOPSEPHY: yâhad (H3054): *BECOME* *JUDAISED* / ONTIC CHECKSUM
TOTAL: #214 as [#5, #8, #400, #6, #40, #10, #40] = châtham (H2856):
{UMBRA: #448 % #41 = #38} 1) to *SEAL*, seal up, affix a seal; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to seal, affix one's seal; 1a2) to seal up, fasten up by
sealing; 1b) (Niphal) to seal; 1c) (Piel) to lock up; 1d) (Hiphil) to be stopped;
MANY SHALL RUN TO AND FRO, AND KNOWLEDGE SHALL BE INCREASED." [Daniel 12:4]
#42 #16 #65
#64 #41 #18
#17 #66 #40
= #123 - JUDGEMENT SENSIBILITY (JEWISH PROTOTYPE #SIX) / #369 - DISCRIMINATING NORM {#313 - PROBABLE CAUSE FOR 4 DAY AGGREGATION 13 TO
16 DECEMBER / 7 x 6 DAY AGGREGATIONS}
TORAH ANGEL [#5, #8, #300]@{
@1: Sup: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#5); Ego: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#5),
@2: Sup: 13 - INCREASE: TSENG (#18); Ego: 8 - OPPOSITION: KAN (#13), @3: Sup: 70 - SEVERANCE: KE (#88); Ego: 57 - GUARDEDNESS: SHOU (#70), Male: #88 – ûwlâm (H197): *PORCH* *IN* *SOLOMON'S* *TEMPLE*; Feme: #70 - TISHA B'AV, 70 CE (30 AUGUST)
} // #313
#313 = [#66, #42, #18, #65, 41, #17, #64] as [#50, #60, #3, #200] =
çâgar (H5462): {UMBRA: #263 % #41 = #17} 1) to shut, *CLOSE*; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to shut; 1a2) to close, close up; 1a3) closed up, closely joined,
shut up; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to be shut up; 1b2) to be shut or *CLOSED*;
1c) (Piel) to shut up, deliver up; 1d) (Pual) to be shut up; 1e)
(Hiphil); 1e1) to deliver up; 1e2) to shut up, imprison;
It's not surprising then that this SINGULARITY OF CONSCIOUSNESS occurs between the BOOK OF JUBILEES and CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY commentary ...
"Wherefore I [did] ordain for thee the year-weeks and the years and the jubilees: there are forty-nine jubilees from the days of Adam until this
day, and one week and two years and there are yet forty years to come (literally “distant”) for learning the COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD, until they pass over into the LAND OF CANAAN, crossing the Jordan to the *WEST*.
#266 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#2, #1, #8, #200, #50, #5] = ʼachărôwn (H314): {UMBRA: #265 % #41 = #19} 1) behind, following, subsequent, western; 1a) behind, hindermost, *WESTERN* (*OF*
*LOCATION*); 1b) later, subsequent, latter, last (of time);
#87 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#30, #1, #6, #50] = ʼâven (H205): {UMBRA: #57 % #41 = #16} 1) trouble, wickedness, sorrow; 1a) trouble,
sorrow; 1b) idolatry; 1c) *TROUBLE* *OF* *INIQUITY*, *WICKEDNESS*;
#746 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#70, #6, #50, #20, #600] = ʻâvôn (H5771): {UMBRA: #126 % #41 = #3} 1) perversity, depravity, iniquity,
guilt or punishment of iniquity; 1a) iniquity; 1b) *GUILT* *OF*
*INIQUITY*, guilt (as great), guilt (of condition); 1c) consequence of
or punishment for iniquity;
And the jubilees will pass by, until *ISRAEL* is cleansed from all
*GUILT* *OF* *FORNICATION*, and *UNCLEANNESS*, *AND* *POLLUTION*, *AND* *SIN*, and error, and *DWELLETH* *WITH* *CONFIDENCE* *IN* *ALL* *THE*
*LAND*, and there will be no more a #351 - *SATAN* / *BELIAL* or any
evil one, and the land will be clean from that time for evermore.
And behold the commandment regarding the Sabbaths--I have written (them)
down for thee and all the JUDGMENTS OF ITS LAWS." [Book of Jubilees 50:4-6]
#41 (THESIS) - PRINCIPLE OF EMANATION / FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
(REMEMBER THE SABBATH) <-- METONIC 19 YEAR CYCLE: WEDNESDAY 20 MARCH
1901 - (5567 = 294 x 364 of 293 x 365.2423 tropical solar years) x 19 -
293 years = 40 YEARS from "SINCE-G575: THE WORLD-G165: BEGAN /
BEFORE-G4253: THE WORLD-G5550: BEGAN-G166:" [Luke 1:70; John 9:32; Acts
3:21; Romans 16:25; 2Timothy 1:9; Titus 1:2]
#82 (ANTI-THESIS) - TERMS OF COMPLIANCE / FORMULA OF HUMANITY (HONOUR PARENTS)
#123 (SYNTHESIS) - JUDGEMENT SENSIBILITY / FORMULA OF AUTONOMY (DO NOT
KILL) <-- DOMINION #65 + #41 + #17 = #123 SCHEMA OF ROMAN CATHOLIC /
IRISH REPUBLICAN ACTIVISM (IRA) / GERMAN NAZISM USURPER IMPETUS
#164 (PROGRESSION) - PRINCIPLE OF MATERIALITY / PROGRESSION OF
INDIVIDUAL PHENOMENON (AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY) / #328 - TRANSFORMATIONAL PROTOTYPE (EXODUS 49J1W2D (49th JUBILEE + 9 YEARS) + 40 YEARS DESERT SOJOURN / DOMINION: #492 - VOLUNTARY FREEWILL = 41 - ONTIC GROUNDING + #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY)
#205 (SYNTHESIS) - PRINCIPLE OF PERSISTENCE / #369 - HUMAN
DISCRIMINATING NORM (probity: DO NOT STEAL)
#246 (ANTI-THESIS) - UTTERANCE; ACTIONS / #410 - OBLIGATING NORM (rule
based: BEAR NO FALSE WITNESS)
#287 (THESIS) - NECESSITY (LAW OF DUTY) / #451 - MANIFESTING NORM (right
or privilege: DO NOT COVET) <-- *EXISTENTIAL* *VARIANCE* *AS* *PRAXIS*
*OF* *RATIONALITY*"

GRAPPLE (502, 386)@[77, 27, 51, 74, 43, 10, 19, 15, 70] PROTOTYPE
<http://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?date:2023.12.24&time:07.07&heuristic&male:502&feme:386&ontic:104&deme:255&idea:386>
{@9: Sup: 62 - DOUBT: YI (#502); Ego: 70 - SEVERANCE: KE (#386)}
#1196 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #502 as [#1, #80, #70, #20, #1, #300, #1,
#200, #300, #8, #200, #5, #10] /
#1196 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #386 as [#1, #80, #70, #20, #1, #300, #1,
#200, #300, #8, #200, #5, #10] = apokathístēmi (G600): {UMBRA: #749 %
#41 = #11} 1) *TO* *RESTORE* *TO* *ITS* *FORMER* *STATE*; 2) to be in
its former state;
#386 as [#6, #40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11} 1) *NUMBER*, *TALE*; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) innumerable
(with negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number, according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104
#442 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#6, #1, #8, #7, #400, #20] = ʼăchuzzâh (H272): {UMBRA: #21 % #41 = #21} 1) possession, property; 1a) *LAND*; 1b) *POSSESSION* *BY* *INHERITANCE*;
#628 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#400, #3, #10, #5, #10, #200] = hygiḗs (G5199): {UMBRA: #621 % #41 = #6} 1) sound; 1a) *OF* *A* *MAN*
*WHO* *IS* *SOUND* *IN* *BODY*; 2) to make one whole i.e. restore him to health; 3) *METAPHOR* *TEACHING* *WHICH* *DOES* *NOT* *DEVIATE* *FROM*
*THE* *TRUTH*;
DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255
#305 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#5, #70, #200, #10, #20] /
#345 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#5, #70, #200, #20, #10, #40] =
ʻârak (H6186): {UMBRA: #290 % #41 = #3} 1) to arrange, set or put or lay
in order, set in array, prepare, order, ordain, handle, furnish, esteem, equal, direct, compare; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) *TO* *ARRANGE* *OR* *SET* *OR*
*LAY* *IN* *ORDER*, *ARRANGE*, *STATE* *IN* *ORDER*, *SET* *FORTH* (*A* *LEGAL* *CASE*), *SET* *IN* *PLACE*; 1a2) to compare, be comparable; 1b) (Hiphil) to value, tax;
#422 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#50, #300, #2, #70] /
#478 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#50, #300, #2, #70, #50, #6] /
#822 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#50, #300, #2, #70, #400] = shâbaʻ (H7650): {UMBRA: #372 % #41 = #3} 1) to swear, adjure; 1a) (Qal) sworn (participle); 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to swear, take an oath; 1b2) *TO*
*SWEAR* (*OF* *JEHOVAH* *BY* *HIMSELF*); 1b3) to curse; 1c) (Hiphil);
1c1) to cause to take an oath; 1c2) to adjure;
#78 - ON THE VERGE (CHIANG) / NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 24 DECEMBER 2023 as [#10, #2, #10, #50, #6] /
#502 as [#400, #2, #10, #50, #40] = bîyn (H995): {UMBRA: #62 % #41 =
#21} 1) to discern, understand, consider; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to perceive, discern; 1a2) *TO* *UNDERSTAND*, *KNOW* (*WITH* *THE* *MIND*); 1a3) to observe, mark, give heed to, distinguish, consider; 1a4) to have
discernment, insight, understanding; 1b) (Niphal) to be discerning, intelligent, discreet, have understanding; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to
understand; 1c2) to cause to understand, give understanding, teach; 1d) (Hithpolel) *TO* *SHOW* *ONESELF* *DISCERNING* *OR* *ATTENTIVE*,
*CONSIDER* *DILIGENTLY*; 1e) (Polel) to teach, instruct; 2) (TWOT)
prudent, regard;
#51 - 𝌸常 = #502
cháng: 1. always; ever; often; frequently; *CONSTANTLY*, 2. Chang, 3. long-lasting, 4. common; general; ordinary, 5. *A* *PRINCIPLE*; *A*
*RULE*, 6. eternal; nitya --> *DAILY*
cháng wù (常務): [#51 - 𝌸常 = #502 / #26 - 𝌟務 = #477] - routine; everyday
business; daily operation (of a company)
shī cháng (失常): [#75 - 𝍐失 = #526 / #51 - 𝌸常 = #502] - not normal; an
aberration
#454 = TETRA #3 - MIRED (HSIEN) as [#400, #40, #10, #4] = tâmîyd
(H8548): {UMBRA: #454 % #41 = #3} 1) *CONTINUITY*, perpetuity, to
stretch; 1a) continually, continuously (as adverb); 1b) continuity (subst);
"YEA, HE MAGNIFIED HIMSELF EVEN TO THE PRINCE OF THE HOST, AND BY HIM
THE *DAILY*-H8548 SACRIFICE WAS TAKEN AWAY, AND THE PLACE OF HIS
SANCTUARY WAS CAST DOWN." [Daniel 8:11]
WHERE #502 = #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY + #51 - CONSTANCY (CH'ANG): "Following this immutable pattern, all subjects, including court
officials, must follow the ruler. Hierarchy functions as the necessary
basis for enduring and productive relations; as the Changes argues, the
four seasons keep to their constant course only when the "strong is
above and the weak below." Not surprisingly, the need to recognize one's proper place in the hierarchy is a theme of this tetragram. So long as hierarchy is preserved, the worst calamities associated with yin ch'i
may be avoided. This may explain why the penal code associated with the autumn season is represented in a positive, rather than a negative light.
APPRAISAL #1: Holding up the inkline of the gods (戴神墨),
He follows the sacred model.
Using the One to pair ten thousand,
To the end, his light does not fade.
FATHOMING #1: Upholding divine measure
Means: He embodies the form of the One.
dài (戴): 1. to put on; to wear, 2. to support; to carry; to be loaded with, 3. to cap; to put on top, 4. to praise, 5. *TO* *DEFEND*, 6. Dai
shén (神): 1. divine; mysterious; magical; supernatural, 2. *A* *DEITY*; *A* *GOD*; *A* *SPIRITUAL* *BEING*, 3. spirit; will; attention, 4. soul; spirit; divine essence, 5. expression, 6. a portrait, 7. a person with supernatural powers, 8. Shen
mò (墨): 1. black ink; ink stick, 2. Mohism; Mo Zi, 3. *WRITING*, 4. ink, 5. calligraphy, 6. ink punishment, 7. black, 8. corrupt
Because 'its primal Oneness produces the myriad things, the Tao in its totality lies essentially beyond mere human comprehension. Certain broad patterns of cosmic activity, however, are discernible to Man. For
example, the superior man takes primal oneness as his model when dealing
with others. Singleminded in his pursuit of moral #502 -
*UNDERSTANDING* and unshakeable in his integrity, he "holds fast to the
One" Way. Applying the single tool of categorical logic to the entire universe, he comes to grasp all the myriad things within his mind, so
all encompassing is his understanding. Conformity with such sacred
norms gains him charismatic power that will work to effect a perfect
union of all the myriad things in the cosmos. Above and below, inner
unity brings the union of all." [CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY (4 BCE), Nylan 1993, page 315]
would be that astonishing, and in any case I would expect it to more
similar to the Tao Te Ching that comes in 81 parts, part of the 9 x 9
theme, with 3x3 x 3x3 = 9 x 9 tetragrams.
I intersect each to the DOMINION (4th) MATRIX and therefore obtain an UNITY
.jackNote@zen: 5, row: 7, col: 9, nous: 19 [DATE: 2023.12.26, SUPER:
#284 / #36 - Natural Reversals, 'Secret' Explanation; I-Ching: H4 -
Juvenile Ignorance, Youthful Inexperience, Enveloping, The young shoot, Discovering; Tetra: 12 - YOUTHFULNESS (T'UNG), EGO: #308 / #19 -
Argument for Ethical Anarchism, Returning to Simplicity; I-Ching: H57 - Compliance, Gentle Penetration / Wind, Ground, Calculations; Tetra: 58 - GATHERING IN (HSI)]
IMMANUEL KANT'S PROLEGOMENA (1783) AS COMMENTARY OF SECTION ##25 -
What's behind it all?, Imaging the Mysterious; I-Ching: H62 - Minor Superiority, Small Excess, Small Exceeding, Preponderance of the small,
Small surpassing; Tetra: 10 - DEFECTIVENESS, DISTORTION (HSIEN) AS IDEA
#308:
"With respect to the relation of appearances, and indeed exclusively
with regard to their existence, the determination of this relation is
not mathematical but dynamical, and it can never be objectively valid,
hence fit for experience, if it is not subject to a priori principles,
which first make cognition through experience possible with respect to
that determination. Therefore appearances must be subsumed under the
concept of substance, which, as a concept of the thing itself, underlies
all determination of existence; or second, insofar as a temporal
sequence, i.e., an event, is met with among the appearances, they must
be subsumed under the concept of an effect in relation to a cause; or, insofar as simultaneous existence is to be cognized objectively, i.e., through a judgment of experience, they must be subsumed under the
concept of community (interaction): and so a priori principles underlie objectively valid, though empirical, judgments, i.e., they underlie the possibility of experience insofar as it is supposed to connect objects
in nature according to existence.
These principles are the actual laws of nature, which can be called dynamical.
Finally, there also belongs to judgments of experience the cognition of agreement and connection: not so much of the appearances among
themselves in experience, but of their relation to experience in
general, a relation that contains either their agreement with the formal conditions that the understanding cognizes, or their connection with the material of the senses and perception, or both united in one concept,
and thus possibility, existence, and necessity according to universal
laws of nature; all of which would constitute the physiological theory
of method (the distinction of truth and hypotheses, and the boundaries
of the reliability of the latter)." [page 59]
For more of my context see what I write about the I Ching, especially
in the leads related to transformations of elements...
https://www.exactphilosophy.net/iching.html
I like that (from Wikipedia):
- the unbroken line for heaven <-- FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
- once broken line for earth <-- FORMULA OF HUMANITY
- twice broken line for man <-- FORMULA OF AUTONOMY
<-- FORMULA OF PROGRESSION
+0, 27, 54
+0, 9, 18
+0, 3, 9
=1, 2, 3
eg. TETRA #30 - BOLD RESOLUTION (YI)
- once broken line = #27
- the unbroken line = #0
- the unbroken line = #0
- twice broken line = #3
<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Modern%20Chinese%20Words%20Using%20Canon%20of%20Supreme%20Mystery%20TETRADS.pdf>
reminding of the image of the tortoise/turtle with belly for earth
and back for heaven.
Anyways, sounds like something worth pondering a bit...
And also thanks to one for the replies... :)
Ah, maybe one bit:
one wrote
No idea why servers serve users who use the network.
In the past practically every Internet provider had a newsserver,
I guess was initially also a matter of reducing traffic across
the continents, today with all the movie streaming and so on no
longer relevant. But since some time except eternal September
mainly provided by servers for "sharing binaries", typically
movies and games and software, I presume not all legal, at least
not everywhere, and still keeping text groups makes not difference
regarding network traffic or storage, but can be presented as
doing something in public interest. Since Covid, producers of
movies have apparently found ways to prevent movies and series
to end up on Usenet or rather to disappear quickly again. I did
post something to alt.binaries.misc in May (something legal),
and was astonished at the amount of password protected binary
posts... I could imagine that that would disappear at some
point, for legal reasons resp. political pressure on countries
like the Netherlands who host such servers. With the binaries
no longer shareable, I presume most or all of those servers
would just shut down. But I am not really an expert around these
things, just what I stitched together from what I know, but in
a way everything in life is a bit like that :)
One more thing:
The 28 (lunar) mansions in the Chinese sky were apparently in
roughly that form also known in the "West", at least as far
west as the Middle East, but at the moment no direct reference
GODHEAD: *Α* - *Ω* OF 24 SOLAR TERMS / #81 - TETRADS [#451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY SPECTRUM (#452 ... #532)]
"I AM (#65 - 𝍆內 = #516 - eimí (G1510): *TO* *EXIST*; *INNER*; *HEART*; *IMPERIAL* *PALACE*) ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING,
SAITH THE LORD, WHICH IS, AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME, THE *ALMIGHTY*-G3841." [Revelation 1:8]
#54 - UNITY (K'UN) as [#40 - LAW / MODEL (FE), #5 - KEEPING SMALL
(SHAO), #9 - BRANCHING OUT (SHU)] /
#346 as [#40, #5, #300, #1] = metá (G3326): {UMBRA: #346 % #41 = #18} 1) with, after, behind;
#516 as [#20, #5, #20, #70, #200, #40, #8, #40, #5, #50, #8, #50] =
kosméō (G2885): {UMBRA: #1135 % #41 = #28} 1) *TO* *PUT* *IN* *ORDER*, *ARRANGE*, *MAKE* *READY*, *PREPARE*; 2) to ornament, adore; 3) metaph.
to embellish with honour, gain honour;
"I AM DEBTOR BOTH TO THE GREEKS, AND TO THE BARBARIANS; BOTH TO THE
WISE, AND TO THE UNWISE.
FOR THE *INVISIBLE* *THINGS* OF HIM FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD ARE CLEARLY SEEN, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE, EVEN HIS
ETERNAL POWER AND GODHEAD; SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE: BECAUSE
THAT, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD, THEY GLORIFIED HIM NOT AS GOD, NEITHER WERE THANKFUL; BUT BECAME VAIN IN THEIR IMAGINATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART
WAS DARKENED.
CHINESE ZODIAC: Rat, Ox, Tiger, Rabbit, Dragon, Snake, Horse, Goat,
Monkey, Rooster, Dog and Pig
WESTERN ZODIAC: Ram, Bull, Twins, Crab, Lion, Virgin, Scales, Scorpion, Centaur-Archer, Sea-Goat, Water-Bearer, Fish
PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS, AND CHANGED THE
GLORY OF THE UNCORRUPTIBLE GOD INTO AN IMAGE MADE LIKE TO CORRUPTIBLE
MAN, AND TO BIRDS, AND FOURFOOTED BEASTS, AND CREEPING THINGS." [Romans
1:14, 20-23]
<https://www.chinahighlights.com/festivals/the-24-solar-terms.htm>
[Image: Courtesy China Highlights]
During the Shang Dynasty (17th century BC - 1046 BC), ancient people
have decided 4 solar terms:
#21 - THE SPRING EQUINOX (Chun Fen),
#41 - THE SUMMER SOLSTICE (xia zhi),
#61 - THE AUTUMN EQUINOX (Qiu Fen),
#1 - THE WINTER SOLSTICE (Dong Zhi)
<http://www.grapple369.com/images/tetrayear.jpeg>
By observing the shadow at noon as perhaps in accordance with the 4.5
days x #81 TETRAD = #364.5 days of the natural year. When the shadow is shortest in a year, it is Summer Solstice, the longest is Winter
Solstice and the moderate is Spring Equinox or Autumn Equinox. In Zhou Dynasty (11th century BC - 221BC), eight solar terms were used. With the
new moon of midnight 21 DECEMBER 103 BCE the astronomical positions of
24 solar terms were decided as approximating the natural form of the #81 TETRADS with its #1 - 𝌆中 = #452 - CENTRE / #41 - 𝌮應 = #492 - WILL TO
ACTION as grand inception #81 - 𝍖養 = #532 - ASIAN (G774: Asianós).
The calendar indicates the Great Cold (ie. the traditional Chinese lunar calendar divides the year into 24 solar terms. The Chinese 24th solar
term: 大寒, generally begins each year on 20 JANUARY and ends on 2 FEBRUARY), a fifteen day solar period (ie. 15 days x 24 = 360) no less harsh than a remonstrant's stern admonition. Still, thanks to yang ch'i,
the myriad things will eventually break out of their hard shells to meet
the light of day. Similarly, the individual is beholden to loyal critics
for the liberation of his thoughts. The fledgling moral conscience,
then, depends for its survival on the expert "drilling" of a wiser individual. Inexpert advice, however, further weakens the conscience,
just as clumsy probing with a drill damages the base material.
A great many Warring States (475 BC to 221 BC as the first unified
Chinese empire, under the Qin dynasty) philosophical texts insist upon
the minister's right to remonstrate with his ruler, and under certain circumstances to even depose him. It could even be argued that Confucius authorized such views, for as the Master reportedly said:
How can he be accounted loyal who refrains from admonishing [the object
of his loyalty]?
In general, this tradition was upheld, even strengthened in early
Western Han. The Garden of Sayings by YANG HSIUNG's contemporary, Liu
Hsiang (circa 77 B.C.), devotes an entire chapter to ministerial remonstrance, drawing upon numerous historical and pseudo historical anecdotes. However, certain Confucians (perhaps under Legalist
influence) began to argue that forthright remonstrance threatened the
#115 - *DIGNITY* *OF* *THE* #496 - *THRONE* and undercut the principle
of strict hierarchy underlying the social order.
More conservative texts, then, proposed that "a [good] subject does not admonish in a direct way." By 79 A.D., the scholastics present at the imperially convened White Tiger Hall Discussions on orthodoxy concluded
that of five different kinds of remonstrance, "forthright remonstrance
is the worst." YANG HSIUNG appears to harken back to the Warring States
and early Western Han thinkers on this issue. His Model Sayings argues
that certain kinds of indirect criticism actually encourage, rather than
curb evil tendencies. In this tetragram, he advocates "forthright"
criticism on the part of the official, so long as the ruler has been adequately prepared." [@1, page 131]
at hand for that. Would imply that there was at least some
cultural interaction/interchange over long time spans, not
necessarily people travelling from "West" to "East" directly,
but more like from A to B, someone else from B to C, and so on
and thus over longer time spans communicating cultural ideas...
On 26/12/2023 03:38, Alain Stalder wrote:
dolf wrote:
You are being wilfully ignorant since the I CHING is subject to a broader >>> Han dynasty era (pre Christian) treatise known as the canon of supreme:
mystery by which the Chinese since 21 December 103 BCE anchor their
identity.
Of necessity the mapping of 64 elements to 81 TETRADS requires some
duplication.
I had never heard of the "canon of supreme mystery" before today
(or if I had, I would have forgotten about it...)
Wikipedia says it dates back to 2 BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing
Do you have references for an earlier date? Not that an earlier date
It ought to be self apparent that because the order of the TETRADs as META-DESCRIPTORS which are a boundary to consciousness, are aligned to
the GRAND INCEPTION of 21 DECEMBER 103 BCE that one must have an
intellectual conception to do so.
As similarly the principle PYTHAGOREAN advocate PHILOLAUS (470-385 BCE) considered the Natural Year to be 364.5 days (ipso facto #81 x 4.5 days)
It's very likely given TETRAD: #80 - LABOURING (CH'IN) as the 4.5 day
locus prior that this is the viable etymology root for many Hebrew words
such as SIN #18 as [#8 - OPPOSITION (KAN), #9 - BRANCHING OUT (SHU), #1
- CENTER (CHUNG)] = châṭâʼ (H2398):
#18 as [#8, #9, #1] = châṭâʼ (H2398): {UMBRA: #18 % #41 = #18} 1) to sin, miss, miss the way, go wrong, incur guilt, forfeit, purify from uncleanness; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to miss; 1a2) to sin, miss the goal or path
of right and duty; 1a3) to incur guilt, incur penalty by sin, forfeit;
1b) (Piel); 1b1) to bear loss; 1b2) to make a sin-offering; 1b3) to
purify from sin; 1b4) to purify from uncleanness; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to
miss the mark; 1c2) to induce to sin, cause to sin; 1c3) to bring into
guilt or condemnation or punishment; 1d) (Hithpael); 1d1) to miss
oneself, lose oneself, wander from the way; 1d2) to purify oneself from uncleanness;
We find the unusual aggregation of 4 DAYS within the same locus to which
the Book of Daniel and Book of Jubilees written around #175 - #164 BCE
refers (ie. its possible that the abnormal 6 day aggregations are
temporal watches as prototypes related to the #EIGHT AUTONOMOUS
DELIMITER related to PYTHAGOREAN conception of number) as to suggest a CONSCIOUSNESS SINGULARITY:
PROTOTYPE vMEMETIC *DIALECTIC* TO CONSCIOUSNESS
#5 - ACT OF NATURE / NATURE REJOICES IN ITS NATURE: {HE}
#20 - TRANSFORMING NATURE: {RESH / DOUBLE - FORM OF NATURE (AUTONOMOUS NATURE)}
#6 - FORM OF NATURE / NATURE SURMOUNTS NATURE: {VAV}
#13 - NATURE CONTAINS NATURE: {MEM}
#1 - NATURE CONTAINS NATURE: {ALEPH}
— AUTONOMOUS DELIMITER —> #8 - TRANSFORMING NATURE / ACT OF NATURE: {CHETH)}
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGIluXdfXqY&t=61>
#10 - TOTALITY OF NATURE / ENGENDERING NATURE: {YOD}
#15 - NATURE SURMOUNTS NATURE: {SAMEK}
#12 - AUTONOMOUS NATURE: {LAMED}
#18 - FORM OF NATURE: {TSADE}
"BUT THOU, O DANIEL, *SHUT*-H5640: UP THE WORDS, AND *SEAL*-H2856: THE
BOOK, EVEN TO THE TIME OF THE END:
#500 as [#60, #400, #40] /
#508 as [#6, #2, #60, #400, #40] = çâtham (H5640): {UMBRA: #500 % #41 =
#8} 1) to stop up, shut up, keep close; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to stop up; 1a2)
to shut up, keep close; 1a3) secret (participle); 1b) (Niphal) to be
stopped up; 1c) (Piel) to stop up;
#448 as [#8, #400, #40] /
#509 - ISOPSEPHY: yâhad (H3054): *BECOME* *JUDAISED* / ONTIC CHECKSUM
TOTAL: #214 as [#5, #8, #400, #6, #40, #10, #40] = châtham (H2856):
{UMBRA: #448 % #41 = #38} 1) to *SEAL*, seal up, affix a seal; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to seal, affix one's seal; 1a2) to seal up, fasten up by
sealing; 1b) (Niphal) to seal; 1c) (Piel) to lock up; 1d) (Hiphil) to be stopped;
MANY SHALL RUN TO AND FRO, AND KNOWLEDGE SHALL BE INCREASED." [Daniel 12:4]
#42 #16 #65
#64 #41 #18
#17 #66 #40
= #123 - JUDGEMENT SENSIBILITY (JEWISH PROTOTYPE #SIX) / #369 - DISCRIMINATING NORM {#313 - PROBABLE CAUSE FOR 4 DAY AGGREGATION 13 TO
16 DECEMBER / 7 x 6 DAY AGGREGATIONS}
TORAH ANGEL [#5, #8, #300]@{
@1: Sup: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#5); Ego: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#5),
@2: Sup: 13 - INCREASE: TSENG (#18); Ego: 8 - OPPOSITION: KAN (#13), @3: Sup: 70 - SEVERANCE: KE (#88); Ego: 57 - GUARDEDNESS: SHOU (#70), Male: #88 – ûwlâm (H197): *PORCH* *IN* *SOLOMON'S* *TEMPLE*; Feme: #70 - TISHA B'AV, 70 CE (30 AUGUST)
} // #313
#313 = [#66, #42, #18, #65, 41, #17, #64] as [#50, #60, #3, #200] =
çâgar (H5462): {UMBRA: #263 % #41 = #17} 1) to shut, *CLOSE*; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to shut; 1a2) to close, close up; 1a3) closed up, closely joined,
shut up; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to be shut up; 1b2) to be shut or *CLOSED*;
1c) (Piel) to shut up, deliver up; 1d) (Pual) to be shut up; 1e)
(Hiphil); 1e1) to deliver up; 1e2) to shut up, imprison;
It's not surprising then that this SINGULARITY OF CONSCIOUSNESS occurs between the BOOK OF JUBILEES and CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY commentary ...
"Wherefore I [did] ordain for thee the year-weeks and the years and the jubilees: there are forty-nine jubilees from the days of Adam until this
day, and one week and two years and there are yet forty years to come (literally “distant”) for learning the COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD, until they pass over into the LAND OF CANAAN, crossing the Jordan to the *WEST*.
#266 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#2, #1, #8, #200, #50, #5] = ʼachărôwn (H314): {UMBRA: #265 % #41 = #19} 1) behind, following, subsequent, western; 1a) behind, hindermost, *WESTERN* (*OF*
*LOCATION*); 1b) later, subsequent, latter, last (of time);
#87 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#30, #1, #6, #50] = ʼâven (H205): {UMBRA: #57 % #41 = #16} 1) trouble, wickedness, sorrow; 1a) trouble,
sorrow; 1b) idolatry; 1c) *TROUBLE* *OF* *INIQUITY*, *WICKEDNESS*;
#746 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#70, #6, #50, #20, #600] = ʻâvôn (H5771): {UMBRA: #126 % #41 = #3} 1) perversity, depravity, iniquity,
guilt or punishment of iniquity; 1a) iniquity; 1b) *GUILT* *OF*
*INIQUITY*, guilt (as great), guilt (of condition); 1c) consequence of
or punishment for iniquity;
And the jubilees will pass by, until *ISRAEL* is cleansed from all
*GUILT* *OF* *FORNICATION*, and *UNCLEANNESS*, *AND* *POLLUTION*, *AND* *SIN*, and error, and *DWELLETH* *WITH* *CONFIDENCE* *IN* *ALL* *THE*
*LAND*, and there will be no more a #351 - *SATAN* / *BELIAL* or any
evil one, and the land will be clean from that time for evermore.
And behold the commandment regarding the Sabbaths--I have written (them)
down for thee and all the JUDGMENTS OF ITS LAWS." [Book of Jubilees 50:4-6]
#41 (THESIS) - PRINCIPLE OF EMANATION / FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
(REMEMBER THE SABBATH) <-- METONIC 19 YEAR CYCLE: WEDNESDAY 20 MARCH
1901 - (5567 = 294 x 364 of 293 x 365.2423 tropical solar years) x 19 -
293 years = 40 YEARS from "SINCE-G575: THE WORLD-G165: BEGAN /
BEFORE-G4253: THE WORLD-G5550: BEGAN-G166:" [Luke 1:70; John 9:32; Acts
3:21; Romans 16:25; 2Timothy 1:9; Titus 1:2]
#82 (ANTI-THESIS) - TERMS OF COMPLIANCE / FORMULA OF HUMANITY (HONOUR PARENTS)
#123 (SYNTHESIS) - JUDGEMENT SENSIBILITY / FORMULA OF AUTONOMY (DO NOT
KILL) <-- DOMINION #65 + #41 + #17 = #123 SCHEMA OF ROMAN CATHOLIC /
IRISH REPUBLICAN ACTIVISM (IRA) / GERMAN NAZISM USURPER IMPETUS
#164 (PROGRESSION) - PRINCIPLE OF MATERIALITY / PROGRESSION OF
INDIVIDUAL PHENOMENON (AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY) / #328 - TRANSFORMATIONAL PROTOTYPE (EXODUS 49J1W2D (49th JUBILEE + 9 YEARS) + 40 YEARS DESERT SOJOURN / DOMINION: #492 - VOLUNTARY FREEWILL = 41 - ONTIC GROUNDING + #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY)
#205 (SYNTHESIS) - PRINCIPLE OF PERSISTENCE / #369 - HUMAN
DISCRIMINATING NORM (probity: DO NOT STEAL)
#246 (ANTI-THESIS) - UTTERANCE; ACTIONS / #410 - OBLIGATING NORM (rule
based: BEAR NO FALSE WITNESS)
#287 (THESIS) - NECESSITY (LAW OF DUTY) / #451 - MANIFESTING NORM (right
or privilege: DO NOT COVET) <-- *EXISTENTIAL* *VARIANCE* *AS* *PRAXIS*
*OF* *RATIONALITY*"

GRAPPLE (502, 386)@[77, 27, 51, 74, 43, 10, 19, 15, 70] PROTOTYPE
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{@9: Sup: 62 - DOUBT: YI (#502); Ego: 70 - SEVERANCE: KE (#386)}
#1196 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #502 as [#1, #80, #70, #20, #1, #300, #1,
#200, #300, #8, #200, #5, #10] /
#1196 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #386 as [#1, #80, #70, #20, #1, #300, #1,
#200, #300, #8, #200, #5, #10] = apokathístēmi (G600): {UMBRA: #749 %
#41 = #11} 1) *TO* *RESTORE* *TO* *ITS* *FORMER* *STATE*; 2) to be in
its former state;
#386 as [#6, #40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11} 1) *NUMBER*, *TALE*; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) innumerable
(with negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number, according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104
#442 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#6, #1, #8, #7, #400, #20] = ʼăchuzzâh (H272): {UMBRA: #21 % #41 = #21} 1) possession, property; 1a) *LAND*; 1b) *POSSESSION* *BY* *INHERITANCE*;
#628 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #104 as [#400, #3, #10, #5, #10, #200] = hygiḗs (G5199): {UMBRA: #621 % #41 = #6} 1) sound; 1a) *OF* *A* *MAN*
*WHO* *IS* *SOUND* *IN* *BODY*; 2) to make one whole i.e. restore him to health; 3) *METAPHOR* *TEACHING* *WHICH* *DOES* *NOT* *DEVIATE* *FROM*
*THE* *TRUTH*;
DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255
#305 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#5, #70, #200, #10, #20] /
#345 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#5, #70, #200, #20, #10, #40] =
ʻârak (H6186): {UMBRA: #290 % #41 = #3} 1) to arrange, set or put or lay
in order, set in array, prepare, order, ordain, handle, furnish, esteem, equal, direct, compare; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) *TO* *ARRANGE* *OR* *SET* *OR*
*LAY* *IN* *ORDER*, *ARRANGE*, *STATE* *IN* *ORDER*, *SET* *FORTH* (*A* *LEGAL* *CASE*), *SET* *IN* *PLACE*; 1a2) to compare, be comparable; 1b) (Hiphil) to value, tax;
#422 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#50, #300, #2, #70] /
#478 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#50, #300, #2, #70, #50, #6] /
#822 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #255 as [#50, #300, #2, #70, #400] = shâbaʻ (H7650): {UMBRA: #372 % #41 = #3} 1) to swear, adjure; 1a) (Qal) sworn (participle); 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to swear, take an oath; 1b2) *TO*
*SWEAR* (*OF* *JEHOVAH* *BY* *HIMSELF*); 1b3) to curse; 1c) (Hiphil);
1c1) to cause to take an oath; 1c2) to adjure;
#78 - ON THE VERGE (CHIANG) / NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 24 DECEMBER 2023 as [#10, #2, #10, #50, #6] /
#502 as [#400, #2, #10, #50, #40] = bîyn (H995): {UMBRA: #62 % #41 =
#21} 1) to discern, understand, consider; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to perceive, discern; 1a2) *TO* *UNDERSTAND*, *KNOW* (*WITH* *THE* *MIND*); 1a3) to observe, mark, give heed to, distinguish, consider; 1a4) to have
discernment, insight, understanding; 1b) (Niphal) to be discerning, intelligent, discreet, have understanding; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to
understand; 1c2) to cause to understand, give understanding, teach; 1d) (Hithpolel) *TO* *SHOW* *ONESELF* *DISCERNING* *OR* *ATTENTIVE*,
*CONSIDER* *DILIGENTLY*; 1e) (Polel) to teach, instruct; 2) (TWOT)
prudent, regard;
#51 - 𝌸常 = #502
cháng: 1. always; ever; often; frequently; *CONSTANTLY*, 2. Chang, 3. long-lasting, 4. common; general; ordinary, 5. *A* *PRINCIPLE*; *A*
*RULE*, 6. eternal; nitya --> *DAILY*
cháng wù (常務): [#51 - 𝌸常 = #502 / #26 - 𝌟務 = #477] - routine; everyday
business; daily operation (of a company)
shī cháng (失常): [#75 - 𝍐失 = #526 / #51 - 𝌸常 = #502] - not normal; an
aberration
#454 = TETRA #3 - MIRED (HSIEN) as [#400, #40, #10, #4] = tâmîyd
(H8548): {UMBRA: #454 % #41 = #3} 1) *CONTINUITY*, perpetuity, to
stretch; 1a) continually, continuously (as adverb); 1b) continuity (subst);
"YEA, HE MAGNIFIED HIMSELF EVEN TO THE PRINCE OF THE HOST, AND BY HIM
THE *DAILY*-H8548 SACRIFICE WAS TAKEN AWAY, AND THE PLACE OF HIS
SANCTUARY WAS CAST DOWN." [Daniel 8:11]
WHERE #502 = #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY + #51 - CONSTANCY (CH'ANG): "Following this immutable pattern, all subjects, including court
officials, must follow the ruler. Hierarchy functions as the necessary
basis for enduring and productive relations; as the Changes argues, the
four seasons keep to their constant course only when the "strong is
above and the weak below." Not surprisingly, the need to recognize one's proper place in the hierarchy is a theme of this tetragram. So long as hierarchy is preserved, the worst calamities associated with yin ch'i
may be avoided. This may explain why the penal code associated with the autumn season is represented in a positive, rather than a negative light.
APPRAISAL #1: Holding up the inkline of the gods (戴神墨),
He follows the sacred model.
Using the One to pair ten thousand,
To the end, his light does not fade.
FATHOMING #1: Upholding divine measure
Means: He embodies the form of the One.
dài (戴): 1. to put on; to wear, 2. to support; to carry; to be loaded with, 3. to cap; to put on top, 4. to praise, 5. *TO* *DEFEND*, 6. Dai
shén (神): 1. divine; mysterious; magical; supernatural, 2. *A* *DEITY*; *A* *GOD*; *A* *SPIRITUAL* *BEING*, 3. spirit; will; attention, 4. soul; spirit; divine essence, 5. expression, 6. a portrait, 7. a person with supernatural powers, 8. Shen
mò (墨): 1. black ink; ink stick, 2. Mohism; Mo Zi, 3. *WRITING*, 4. ink, 5. calligraphy, 6. ink punishment, 7. black, 8. corrupt
Because 'its primal Oneness produces the myriad things, the Tao in its totality lies essentially beyond mere human comprehension. Certain broad patterns of cosmic activity, however, are discernible to Man. For
example, the superior man takes primal oneness as his model when dealing
with others. Singleminded in his pursuit of moral #502 -
*UNDERSTANDING* and unshakeable in his integrity, he "holds fast to the
One" Way. Applying the single tool of categorical logic to the entire universe, he comes to grasp all the myriad things within his mind, so
all encompassing is his understanding. Conformity with such sacred
norms gains him charismatic power that will work to effect a perfect
union of all the myriad things in the cosmos. Above and below, inner
unity brings the union of all." [CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY (4 BCE), Nylan 1993, page 315]
would be that astonishing, and in any case I would expect it to more
similar to the Tao Te Ching that comes in 81 parts, part of the 9 x 9
theme, with 3x3 x 3x3 = 9 x 9 tetragrams.
I intersect each to the DOMINION (4th) MATRIX and therefore obtain an UNITY
.jackNote@zen: 5, row: 7, col: 9, nous: 19 [DATE: 2023.12.26, SUPER:
#284 / #36 - Natural Reversals, 'Secret' Explanation; I-Ching: H4 -
Juvenile Ignorance, Youthful Inexperience, Enveloping, The young shoot, Discovering; Tetra: 12 - YOUTHFULNESS (T'UNG), EGO: #308 / #19 -
Argument for Ethical Anarchism, Returning to Simplicity; I-Ching: H57 - Compliance, Gentle Penetration / Wind, Ground, Calculations; Tetra: 58 - GATHERING IN (HSI)]
IMMANUEL KANT'S PROLEGOMENA (1783) AS COMMENTARY OF SECTION ##25 -
What's behind it all?, Imaging the Mysterious; I-Ching: H62 - Minor Superiority, Small Excess, Small Exceeding, Preponderance of the small,
Small surpassing; Tetra: 10 - DEFECTIVENESS, DISTORTION (HSIEN) AS IDEA
#308:
"With respect to the relation of appearances, and indeed exclusively
with regard to their existence, the determination of this relation is
not mathematical but dynamical, and it can never be objectively valid,
hence fit for experience, if it is not subject to a priori principles,
which first make cognition through experience possible with respect to
that determination. Therefore appearances must be subsumed under the
concept of substance, which, as a concept of the thing itself, underlies
all determination of existence; or second, insofar as a temporal
sequence, i.e., an event, is met with among the appearances, they must
be subsumed under the concept of an effect in relation to a cause; or, insofar as simultaneous existence is to be cognized objectively, i.e., through a judgment of experience, they must be subsumed under the
concept of community (interaction): and so a priori principles underlie objectively valid, though empirical, judgments, i.e., they underlie the possibility of experience insofar as it is supposed to connect objects
in nature according to existence.
These principles are the actual laws of nature, which can be called dynamical.
Finally, there also belongs to judgments of experience the cognition of agreement and connection: not so much of the appearances among
themselves in experience, but of their relation to experience in
general, a relation that contains either their agreement with the formal conditions that the understanding cognizes, or their connection with the material of the senses and perception, or both united in one concept,
and thus possibility, existence, and necessity according to universal
laws of nature; all of which would constitute the physiological theory
of method (the distinction of truth and hypotheses, and the boundaries
of the reliability of the latter)." [page 59]
For more of my context see what I write about the I Ching, especially
in the leads related to transformations of elements...
https://www.exactphilosophy.net/iching.html
I like that (from Wikipedia):
- the unbroken line for heaven <-- FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW
- once broken line for earth <-- FORMULA OF HUMANITY
- twice broken line for man <-- FORMULA OF AUTONOMY
<-- FORMULA OF PROGRESSION
+0, 27, 54
+0, 9, 18
+0, 3, 6
=1, 2, 3
eg. TETRA #30 - BOLD RESOLUTION (YI)
- once broken line = #27
- the unbroken line = #0
- the unbroken line = #0
- twice broken line = #3
<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Modern%20Chinese%20Words%20Using%20Canon%20of%20Supreme%20Mystery%20TETRADS.pdf>
reminding of the image of the tortoise/turtle with belly for earth
and back for heaven.
Anyways, sounds like something worth pondering a bit...
And also thanks to one for the replies... :)
Ah, maybe one bit:
one wrote
No idea why servers serve users who use the network.
In the past practically every Internet provider had a newsserver,
I guess was initially also a matter of reducing traffic across
the continents, today with all the movie streaming and so on no
longer relevant. But since some time except eternal September
mainly provided by servers for "sharing binaries", typically
movies and games and software, I presume not all legal, at least
not everywhere, and still keeping text groups makes not difference
regarding network traffic or storage, but can be presented as
doing something in public interest. Since Covid, producers of
movies have apparently found ways to prevent movies and series
to end up on Usenet or rather to disappear quickly again. I did
post something to alt.binaries.misc in May (something legal),
and was astonished at the amount of password protected binary
posts... I could imagine that that would disappear at some
point, for legal reasons resp. political pressure on countries
like the Netherlands who host such servers. With the binaries
no longer shareable, I presume most or all of those servers
would just shut down. But I am not really an expert around these
things, just what I stitched together from what I know, but in
a way everything in life is a bit like that :)
One more thing:
The 28 (lunar) mansions in the Chinese sky were apparently in
roughly that form also known in the "West", at least as far
west as the Middle East, but at the moment no direct reference
GODHEAD: *Α* - *Ω* OF 24 SOLAR TERMS / #81 - TETRADS [#451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY SPECTRUM (#452 ... #532)]
"I AM (#65 - 𝍆內 = #516 - eimí (G1510): *TO* *EXIST*; *INNER*; *HEART*; *IMPERIAL* *PALACE*) ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING,
SAITH THE LORD, WHICH IS, AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME, THE *ALMIGHTY*-G3841." [Revelation 1:8]
#54 - UNITY (K'UN) as [#40 - LAW / MODEL (FE), #5 - KEEPING SMALL
(SHAO), #9 - BRANCHING OUT (SHU)] /
#346 as [#40, #5, #300, #1] = metá (G3326): {UMBRA: #346 % #41 = #18} 1) with, after, behind;
#516 as [#20, #5, #20, #70, #200, #40, #8, #40, #5, #50, #8, #50] =
kosméō (G2885): {UMBRA: #1135 % #41 = #28} 1) *TO* *PUT* *IN* *ORDER*, *ARRANGE*, *MAKE* *READY*, *PREPARE*; 2) to ornament, adore; 3) metaph.
to embellish with honour, gain honour;
"I AM DEBTOR BOTH TO THE GREEKS, AND TO THE BARBARIANS; BOTH TO THE
WISE, AND TO THE UNWISE.
FOR THE *INVISIBLE* *THINGS* OF HIM FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD ARE CLEARLY SEEN, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE, EVEN HIS
ETERNAL POWER AND GODHEAD; SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE: BECAUSE
THAT, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD, THEY GLORIFIED HIM NOT AS GOD, NEITHER WERE THANKFUL; BUT BECAME VAIN IN THEIR IMAGINATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART
WAS DARKENED.
CHINESE ZODIAC: Rat, Ox, Tiger, Rabbit, Dragon, Snake, Horse, Goat,
Monkey, Rooster, Dog and Pig
WESTERN ZODIAC: Ram, Bull, Twins, Crab, Lion, Virgin, Scales, Scorpion, Centaur-Archer, Sea-Goat, Water-Bearer, Fish
PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS, AND CHANGED THE
GLORY OF THE UNCORRUPTIBLE GOD INTO AN IMAGE MADE LIKE TO CORRUPTIBLE
MAN, AND TO BIRDS, AND FOURFOOTED BEASTS, AND CREEPING THINGS." [Romans
1:14, 20-23]
<https://www.chinahighlights.com/festivals/the-24-solar-terms.htm>
[Image: Courtesy China Highlights]
During the Shang Dynasty (17th century BC - 1046 BC), ancient people
have decided 4 solar terms:
#21 - THE SPRING EQUINOX (Chun Fen),
#41 - THE SUMMER SOLSTICE (xia zhi),
#61 - THE AUTUMN EQUINOX (Qiu Fen),
#1 - THE WINTER SOLSTICE (Dong Zhi)
<http://www.grapple369.com/images/tetrayear.jpeg>
By observing the shadow at noon as perhaps in accordance with the 4.5
days x #81 TETRAD = #364.5 days of the natural year. When the shadow is shortest in a year, it is Summer Solstice, the longest is Winter
Solstice and the moderate is Spring Equinox or Autumn Equinox. In Zhou Dynasty (11th century BC - 221BC), eight solar terms were used. With the
new moon of midnight 21 DECEMBER 103 BCE the astronomical positions of
24 solar terms were decided as approximating the natural form of the #81 TETRADS with its #1 - 𝌆中 = #452 - CENTRE / #41 - 𝌮應 = #492 - WILL TO
ACTION as grand inception #81 - 𝍖養 = #532 - ASIAN (G774: Asianós).
The calendar indicates the Great Cold (ie. the traditional Chinese lunar calendar divides the year into 24 solar terms. The Chinese 24th solar
term: 大寒, generally begins each year on 20 JANUARY and ends on 2 FEBRUARY), a fifteen day solar period (ie. 15 days x 24 = 360) no less harsh than a remonstrant's stern admonition. Still, thanks to yang ch'i,
the myriad things will eventually break out of their hard shells to meet
the light of day. Similarly, the individual is beholden to loyal critics
for the liberation of his thoughts. The fledgling moral conscience,
then, depends for its survival on the expert "drilling" of a wiser individual. Inexpert advice, however, further weakens the conscience,
just as clumsy probing with a drill damages the base material.
A great many Warring States (475 BC to 221 BC as the first unified
Chinese empire, under the Qin dynasty) philosophical texts insist upon
the minister's right to remonstrate with his ruler, and under certain circumstances to even depose him. It could even be argued that Confucius authorized such views, for as the Master reportedly said:
How can he be accounted loyal who refrains from admonishing [the object
of his loyalty]?
In general, this tradition was upheld, even strengthened in early
Western Han. The Garden of Sayings by YANG HSIUNG's contemporary, Liu
Hsiang (circa 77 B.C.), devotes an entire chapter to ministerial remonstrance, drawing upon numerous historical and pseudo historical anecdotes. However, certain Confucians (perhaps under Legalist
influence) began to argue that forthright remonstrance threatened the
#115 - *DIGNITY* *OF* *THE* #496 - *THRONE* and undercut the principle
of strict hierarchy underlying the social order.
More conservative texts, then, proposed that "a [good] subject does not admonish in a direct way." By 79 A.D., the scholastics present at the imperially convened White Tiger Hall Discussions on orthodoxy concluded
that of five different kinds of remonstrance, "forthright remonstrance
is the worst." YANG HSIUNG appears to harken back to the Warring States
and early Western Han thinkers on this issue. His Model Sayings argues
that certain kinds of indirect criticism actually encourage, rather than
curb evil tendencies. In this tetragram, he advocates "forthright"
criticism on the part of the official, so long as the ruler has been adequately prepared." [@1, page 131]
at hand for that. Would imply that there was at least some
cultural interaction/interchange over long time spans, not
necessarily people travelling from "West" to "East" directly,
but more like from A to B, someone else from B to C, and so on
and thus over longer time spans communicating cultural ideas...
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