On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 09:12:06 +1100, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
DOLF @ 0819 HOURS ON 3 DECEMBER 2021: "This chapter now includes five
instances of temporal cohesion as time check ideas.
That the spoken word ought as integrity then follow a circular / elliptical >> path: by that I mean if it runs long enough then it ought to cohere along
an equivalent head to tail path.
The DAO is metaphysical and therefore before / alongside / outside time."
I have no idea what you're referring to.
What chapter?
What are the five instances of temporal cohesion as time check ideas?
I've heard of Mobius and Klein
plus there's the uroborus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbius_strip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
<< The ouroboros entered Western tradition via ancient Egyptian
iconography and the Greek magical tradition. It was adopted as a
symbol in Gnosticism and Hermeticism and most notably in alchemy.>>
With Taoist alchemy, especially Nei Tan, an infant appears again.
To return to a state of that of an infant, a newborn, one may.
A sacred embryo could be visualized, metaphysically, and then,
similar to yoga chakra wheels, vorticies, etc., energy may rise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neidan
<< ... ... ultimately returning
to the primordial unity of the Tao, i.e., becoming an Immortal. >>
Wei Tan can be an other story.
http://www.philtar.ac.uk/encyclopedia/taoism/peng.html
<< On these island were believed to be plants that had the gift of
restoring life to the dead and renewing youth, mushrooms of
immortality (believed to be a species of Agaric), waters or wells of
life and life prolonging trees. Everyone that ate the mushrooms or the
fruit of P'eng-Lai renewed their youth and acquired the power of
floating from island to island. >>
States of consciousness, mystical experiences, paradigms
and such knots often vary from tail to tale telling time
for time beings in places within spaces naturally.
- thanks! Cheers!
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
DOLF @ 0804 HOURS ON 29 NOVEMBER 2021: "It seems that you have lost
direction and your goose is cooked ...
The DAO TE CHING for today is #47 - Ignorant Guides, Viewing the Distant: >>>
The farther you go, the less you know.
Thus the sage knows without travelling;
He sees without looking;
He works without doing. [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 47]
And then you went on verbose tangents in an attempt to conceal that fact." >>>
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 1208 HOURS ON 30 NOVEMBER 2021: "How is it
possible to act against the Dao?
I don't know what you are referring to."
DOLF @ 1224 HOURS ON 1 DECEMBER 2021: "The spoken Dao is not the Dao, so I >>> dont know why you use so many words
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:12.24>
#373 as [#30, #70, #3, #70, #200] = lógos (G3056): {UMBRA: #373 % #41 =
#4} 1) of speech; 1a) a *WORD*, uttered by a living voice, embodies a
conception or idea; 1b) what someone has said; 1b1) a word; 1b2) the
sayings of God; 1b3) decree, mandate or order; 1b4) of the moral precepts >>> given by God; 1b5) Old Testament prophecy given by the prophets; 1b6) what >>> is declared, a thought, declaration, aphorism, a weighty saying, a dictum, >>> a maxim; 1c) discourse; 1c1) the act of speaking, speech; 1c2) the faculty >>> of speech, skill and practice in speaking; 1c3) a kind or style of
speaking; 1c4) a continuous speaking discourse - instruction; 1d) doctrine, >>> teaching; 1e) anything reported in speech; a narration, narrative; 1f)
matter under discussion, thing spoken of, affair, a matter in dispute,
case, suit at law; 1g) the thing spoken of or talked about; event, deed; 2) >>> *ITS* *USE* *AS* *RESPECT* *TO* *THE* *MIND* *ALONE*; 2a) reason, the
mental faculty of thinking, meditating, reasoning, calculating; 2b)
account, i.e. regard, consideration; 2c) account, i.e. reckoning, score; >>> 2d) account, i.e. answer or explanation in reference to judgment; 2e)
relation, i.e. with whom as judge we stand in relation; 2e1) reason would; >>> 2f) reason, cause, ground; 3) In John, denotes the essential Word of God, >>> Jesus Christ, the personal wisdom and power in union with God, his minister >>> in creation and government of the universe, the cause of all the world's >>> life both physical and ethical, which for the procurement of man's
salvation put on human nature in the person of Jesus the Messiah, the
second person in the Godhead, and shone forth conspicuously from His words >>> and deeds.;
Try number instead
The suggestion given of the name DAO TE CHING conveys the changes necessary >>> to obtain the virtue (TE) of DAO."
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0014 HOURS ON 2 DECEMBER 2021: "I have no idea >>> what you're referring to.
Mixing and matching Romanizations occurs.
To obtain the De of Dao, or Teh of Tao, may suggest some body or individual >>> has lost Tao.
A virtue of being in the Zone is to experience wonder.
One may wonder, how does one arrive in, stay in, know
and be in the Zone and if such a state is possible forever.
How long is eternity.
How long does the present last.
Now is the time at all times now is.
A great gift, the present, unfolds.
To be an eternal, an immortal, with Tao Chia, is possible.
To not identify with mortality seeing as how duality suggests,
when mortality exists, not-mortality also exists. TTC 2 articulates.
Beyond being either/or
Prior to nonbeing both/and
Not-two, not-one, not any thing
Neither a non-thing nor nothing
The above batch of #373 appear to be like a dictionary of a sort.
Forgetting about words might be a technique.
Thinking without words is possible and perhaps common when being
spontaneous, prior to words emerging, naturally."
DOLF @ 1244 HOURS ON 2 DECEMBER 2021: "I ought to confess that I had
written my so many words statement before then doing a time check and in
being satisfied then made sure it was posted without further delay @ 1224 >>> hours."
#316 as [#8, #6, #300, #2] / ? #316 as [#8, #300, #2, #6] / >>> ? #365 as [#5, #8, #300, #2, #10, #600] / ?#310 as [#8, #300, #2] = >>> châshab (H2803): {UMBRA: #310 % #41 = #23} 1) to think, plan, esteem,
calculate, invent, make a judgment, imagine, count; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to
think, account; 1a2) to plan, devise, mean; 1a3) to charge, impute, reckon; >>> 1a4) to esteem, value, regard; 1a5) to invent; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to be
accounted, be thought, be esteemed; 1b2) to be computed, be reckoned; 1b3) >>> to be imputed; 1c) (Piel); 1c1) to think upon, consider, be mindful of;
1c2) *TO* *THINK* *TO* *DO*, *DEVISE*, *PLAN*; 1c3) to count, reckon; 1d) >>> (Hithpael) to be considered;
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Initial Post: 23 November 2021
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 09:12:06 +1100, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
DOLF @ 0819 HOURS ON 3 DECEMBER 2021: "This chapter now includes fiveI have no idea what you're referring to.
instances of temporal cohesion as time check ideas.
That the spoken word ought as integrity then follow a circular / elliptical >>> path: by that I mean if it runs long enough then it ought to cohere along >>> an equivalent head to tail path.
The DAO is metaphysical and therefore before / alongside / outside time." >>
What chapter?
What are the five instances of temporal cohesion as time check ideas?
I keep aggregations of our dialog as chapters and I note therein that I
have five ideas which as spontaneity are associated to ideas derived from a time check.
Thank you for your participation.
I've heard of Mobius and Klein
plus there's the uroborus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbius_strip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
<< The ouroboros entered Western tradition via ancient Egyptian
iconography and the Greek magical tradition. It was adopted as a
symbol in Gnosticism and Hermeticism and most notably in alchemy.>>
With Taoist alchemy, especially Nei Tan, an infant appears again.
To return to a state of that of an infant, a newborn, one may.
A sacred embryo could be visualized, metaphysically, and then,
similar to yoga chakra wheels, vorticies, etc., energy may rise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neidan
<< ... ... ultimately returning
to the primordial unity of the Tao, i.e., becoming an Immortal. >>
Wei Tan can be an other story.
http://www.philtar.ac.uk/encyclopedia/taoism/peng.html
<< On these island were believed to be plants that had the gift of
restoring life to the dead and renewing youth, mushrooms of
immortality (believed to be a species of Agaric), waters or wells of
life and life prolonging trees. Everyone that ate the mushrooms or the
fruit of P'eng-Lai renewed their youth and acquired the power of
floating from island to island. >>
States of consciousness, mystical experiences, paradigms
and such knots often vary from tail to tale telling time
for time beings in places within spaces naturally.
- thanks! Cheers!
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
DOLF @ 0804 HOURS ON 29 NOVEMBER 2021: "It seems that you have lost
direction and your goose is cooked ...
The DAO TE CHING for today is #47 - Ignorant Guides, Viewing the Distant: >>>>
The farther you go, the less you know.
Thus the sage knows without travelling;
He sees without looking;
He works without doing. [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 47]
And then you went on verbose tangents in an attempt to conceal that fact." >>>>
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 1208 HOURS ON 30 NOVEMBER 2021: "How is it
possible to act against the Dao?
I don't know what you are referring to."
DOLF @ 1224 HOURS ON 1 DECEMBER 2021: "The spoken Dao is not the Dao, so I >>>> dont know why you use so many words
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:12.24>
#373 as [#30, #70, #3, #70, #200] = lógos (G3056): {UMBRA: #373 % #41 =
#4} 1) of speech; 1a) a *WORD*, uttered by a living voice, embodies a
conception or idea; 1b) what someone has said; 1b1) a word; 1b2) the
sayings of God; 1b3) decree, mandate or order; 1b4) of the moral precepts >>>> given by God; 1b5) Old Testament prophecy given by the prophets; 1b6) what >>>> is declared, a thought, declaration, aphorism, a weighty saying, a dictum, >>>> a maxim; 1c) discourse; 1c1) the act of speaking, speech; 1c2) the faculty >>>> of speech, skill and practice in speaking; 1c3) a kind or style of
speaking; 1c4) a continuous speaking discourse - instruction; 1d) doctrine,
teaching; 1e) anything reported in speech; a narration, narrative; 1f) >>>> matter under discussion, thing spoken of, affair, a matter in dispute, >>>> case, suit at law; 1g) the thing spoken of or talked about; event, deed; 2)
*ITS* *USE* *AS* *RESPECT* *TO* *THE* *MIND* *ALONE*; 2a) reason, the
mental faculty of thinking, meditating, reasoning, calculating; 2b)
account, i.e. regard, consideration; 2c) account, i.e. reckoning, score; >>>> 2d) account, i.e. answer or explanation in reference to judgment; 2e)
relation, i.e. with whom as judge we stand in relation; 2e1) reason would; >>>> 2f) reason, cause, ground; 3) In John, denotes the essential Word of God, >>>> Jesus Christ, the personal wisdom and power in union with God, his minister
in creation and government of the universe, the cause of all the world's >>>> life both physical and ethical, which for the procurement of man's
salvation put on human nature in the person of Jesus the Messiah, the
second person in the Godhead, and shone forth conspicuously from His words >>>> and deeds.;
Try number instead
The suggestion given of the name DAO TE CHING conveys the changes necessary
to obtain the virtue (TE) of DAO."
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0014 HOURS ON 2 DECEMBER 2021: "I have no idea >>>> what you're referring to.
Mixing and matching Romanizations occurs.
To obtain the De of Dao, or Teh of Tao, may suggest some body or individual
has lost Tao.
A virtue of being in the Zone is to experience wonder.
One may wonder, how does one arrive in, stay in, know
and be in the Zone and if such a state is possible forever.
How long is eternity.
How long does the present last.
Now is the time at all times now is.
A great gift, the present, unfolds.
To be an eternal, an immortal, with Tao Chia, is possible.
To not identify with mortality seeing as how duality suggests,
when mortality exists, not-mortality also exists. TTC 2 articulates.
Beyond being either/or
Prior to nonbeing both/and
Not-two, not-one, not any thing
Neither a non-thing nor nothing
The above batch of #373 appear to be like a dictionary of a sort.
Forgetting about words might be a technique.
Thinking without words is possible and perhaps common when being
spontaneous, prior to words emerging, naturally."
DOLF @ 1244 HOURS ON 2 DECEMBER 2021: "I ought to confess that I had
written my so many words statement before then doing a time check and in
being satisfied then made sure it was posted without further delay @ 1224 >>>> hours."
#316 as [#8, #6, #300, #2] / ? #316 as [#8, #300, #2, #6] / >>>> ? #365 as [#5, #8, #300, #2, #10, #600] / ?#310 as [#8, #300, #2] = >>>> châshab (H2803): {UMBRA: #310 % #41 = #23} 1) to think, plan, esteem, >>>> calculate, invent, make a judgment, imagine, count; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to >>>> think, account; 1a2) to plan, devise, mean; 1a3) to charge, impute, reckon;
1a4) to esteem, value, regard; 1a5) to invent; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to be >>>> accounted, be thought, be esteemed; 1b2) to be computed, be reckoned; 1b3) >>>> to be imputed; 1c) (Piel); 1c1) to think upon, consider, be mindful of; >>>> 1c2) *TO* *THINK* *TO* *DO*, *DEVISE*, *PLAN*; 1c3) to count, reckon; 1d) >>>> (Hithpael) to be considered;
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:12.24>
A DRAFT COPY OF THIS DOCUMENT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE FOLLOWING URL:
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