Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air pollution and
to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on hospital
wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

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Air Quality
Uncertainties

https://wintoncentre.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/does-air-pollution-kill-40000-people-each-year-uk/

QUOTE

“There are huge uncertainties surrounding all the measures of impacts of
air pollution, with inadequate knowledge replaced by substantial doses of expert judgement.

These uncertainties should be better reflected in the public debates.

In addition, the situation in the UK is not what we would usually think of
as a ‘crisis’.

It can still be good to seek improvements in air quality, but only provided these are based on a careful analysis of the costs per life-year saved.”

ENDQUOTE

Indoor pollution

https://air.plumelabs.com/learn/en/indoor-outdoor-pollution

These indoor spaces are often found to be contaminated by many pollutants,
and studies even show that indoor air pollution is up to 8 times greater
than that of outdoor air.

Why is indoor air quality important? We spend, on average, 80 to 90% of our time inside!

So, although ignored for a long time, the question of indoor air quality
has become one of the main environmental public health issues all over the world. 


Air Pollution: Six top tips from asthma.org.uk

Open windows if you can (be cautious on high pollen or pollution days) or
use extractor fans, especially in kitchens and bathrooms. It’ll help clear any indoor pollutants and prevent damp and mould.

Reduce dust mites as much as possible by regularly washing bedding or using anti-allergy covers. Read more on dust mites.

Avoid aerosols and sprays – go for non-spray cleaning and personal
products.

Avoid strong smells and chemicals – look for mild or unscented products,
and products low in VOCs (Volatile Organic Chemicals).

Don’t smoke. Cigarette smoke is a dangerous asthma trigger. And it can also make you and your child more sensitive to other indoor triggers.

Make sure any heaters, cookers and boilers are serviced regularly. Also
make sure any new appliances are fitted properly with adequate ventilation.


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser,
told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up
for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which
will become the Ulez boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to
mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS
to stop creating air pollution and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have
backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution
is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could
be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the
main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are
too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much
illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

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'They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”.' Yes. A very, very small step. Which will be undone by the Mayor's £2.2bn 0.9-mile long Silvertown
Motorway Tunnel.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

'They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”.' Yes. A very, very small step. Which will be undone by the Mayor's £2.2bn
0.9-mile long Silvertown Motorway Tunnel.

And what will Khan do about air pollution when the atmosphere is thick with
the contaminants that are brought in when ‘The Wind Is In From Africa’, and people are struggling to breathe because they suffer from virus-induced
asthma?

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QUOTE: Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.” ENDS

Bloody experts - haven't the Brexit headbangers had enough of them for spouting the truth against their sheer lies?

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THE FIVE MOST COMMON DISEASES IN THE NETHERLANDS

The Netherlands is located in Northwestern Europe and has a population of
about 17 million. Non-communicable diseases, like in many other parts of
the world, increasingly affect the Dutch and cause about 90 percent of
deaths in the country. The following are the most common diseases in the Netherlands.

1. Neoplasms
The Netherlands has the 12th highest rate of cancer in the world, in part
due to increased awareness and diagnosis. Thirty-three percent of deaths in
the country are due to cancer. Lung cancer is the most prevalent, followed
by breast cancer and intestinal cancer. Skin cancer and pancreatic cancer
cases also are increasing, and, between 2005 and 2015, the mortality rate
of pancreatic cancer increased by 12 percent.

During that same period, the mortality rate of lung cancer, which is
especially common because of smoking, increased by six percent. The
premature death rates and prevalence of lung cancer, pancreatic cancer and breast cancer are significantly higher in the Netherlands than in similar countries.

2. Cardiovascular Disease (CVD)

CVD causes 29 percent of deaths in the Netherlands. Although the mortality
rate of CVD has declined since the second half of the 20th century, the
burden remains. Ischemic heart disease is especially crippling to the
country. In 2007, it was estimated that about 730,400 people were living
with ischemic heart disease.

3. Chronic Respiratory Diseases

Chronic respiratory diseases cause six percent of deaths. Lung diseases in
the Netherlands are especially prevalent because of the high percentage of smokers. About 28 percent of people in the country smoke. Because of this, there are roughly 23,000 lung related deaths per year and over one million
lung patients.

In addition to lung cancer, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is also prevalent in the county. Between 2005 and 2015, the mortality rate of
COPD increased by 9.5 percent. The premature death rate is significantly
higher in the Netherlands compared to similar countries. COPD can lead to emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

4. Mental and Behavioral Disorders
Mental health is important to recognize in the Netherlands. Depressive disorders are a leading cause of death and disability in the country. In
2014, about eight percent of the population claimed to be suffering from depression, accounting for more than one million people.

5. Alzheimer’s Disease

Dementia affects 1.47 percent of the Dutch population. In 2012, about
245,568 people lived with dementia. Alzheimer’s disease is especially
common as the mortality rate increased by 18.6 percent between 2005 and
2015. Risk factors of Alzheimer’s include age, genetics, traumatic brain injury and mild cognitive impairment. Research also suggests that cardiovascular disease and education level may be linked to the disease.

Poor lifestyle choices are commonly associated to many of these diseases. Smoking, for example, is a major risk factor and something that should be recognized when addressing rates of diseases such as lung cancer and COPD. Improving health education is one step in helping decrease the rates of
these common diseases in the Netherlands.

<https://borgenproject.org/common-diseases-in-the-netherlands/>



swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are
too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much
illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.” ENDS

Bloody experts - haven't the Brexit headbangers had enough of them for spouting the truth against their sheer lies?

So, all that cycling and clean air doesn’t help much…

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QUOTE: > “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.” ENDS

COPD?
Isn't that the nutcase new unelected trading bloc posing as a replacement for the EU?

"Benefit" of 0.04% return after 15 years to replace the 4.0% loss NOW caused by leaving the biggest trading bloc on the planet 23 miles away with one 12000 miles away?

IDIOTS.

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Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: > “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to
dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.” ENDS

COPD?

Dutch COPD & Asthma

QUOTE
In the Netherlands, 1.2 million people have either chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) or asthma.
ENDQUOTE

And that’s in a country of only 17.2 million people.

[University Medical Center Groningen Groningen Research Institute for
Asthma and COPD (GRIAC) Room T3.260 
Hanzeplein 1 
9713 GZ Groningen 
The Netherlands]

Isn't that the nutcase new unelected trading bloc posing as a replacement for the EU?

"Benefit" of 0.04% return after 15 years to replace the 4.0% loss NOW
caused by leaving the biggest trading bloc on the planet 23 miles away
with one 12000 miles away?

IDIOTS.

This week:

£ at a high level

UK more attractive than EU for inward investment.

Don’t you follow the business news? [Rhetorical]

You need to stop believing in Remoaner crap. They were lying then and they
are lying now.

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QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone. ENDS

What would happen if the cyclists strayed into the ULEZ area?

NOTHING AT ALL AS THEY'RE EXEMPT. :-)

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Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London
boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the
ultra-low emission zone.

<snipped to save CO2>

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

QUOTE

Berners-Lee estimates that globally emails could account for as much as
150m tonnes CO2e in 2019, or about 0.3% of the world’s carbon footprint.
That is based on around half of all emails sent being spam and the
remainder being reasonably useful messages that took the sender 3 minutes
to write and the reader about 1 minute to read. On that basis, average
email usage is equivalent to driving a small petrol car for around 128
miles.

ENDQUOTE


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On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air pollution

and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on

hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Food is an energy intensive product, with diesel-power a major contributor
at every stage - so keep that in mind every time you breathe out.

Have you thought of contributing to the health of the planet by stopping
eating and breathing?

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On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

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On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:32:16 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Food is an energy intensive product, with diesel-power a major contributor at every stage - so keep that in mind every time you breathe out.

So what you are saying is cyclists pay 'Road Tax'.

Have you thought of contributing to the health of the planet by stopping eating and breathing?

And so say all of us. Environmorons don't seem to realise the best thing they can do for this planet is plant themselves in a ditch or walk into the ocean.

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On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:46:01 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:46:01 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

They are made in Hull.

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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:46:01 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

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On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 14:57:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:46:01 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Where was Wind last November, when it all but disappeared for 25 days that month?

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Spike

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:46:01 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 13:23:49 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote: >>>>>

How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

Is your computer pasta powered?

Wind powered - see the North Sea these days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to
applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in
applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

Modern turbine blades are 100m long. How big are balsa trees?

QUOTE

Globally, around 14,000 wind turbines blades are reaching the end of their usable life within the next two to three years - that’s almost 50,000
tonnes of blades that are currently destined for landfill or incineration. Based on the current installed capacity, this could increase tenfold by the
end of the decade.

Delivered in partnership with the Offshore Renewable Energy Catapult and supported by The Crown Estate and RenewableUK, SusWIND will discover and demonstrate viable ways to recycle composite wind turbine blades, to
explore the use of sustainable materials and processes in developing
composites for blades, and to innovate in design to future-proof the
turbine blades of tomorrow.

UNQUOTE

No mention of balsa there.

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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to
applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in
applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

Copper isn’t the issue.

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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

The spare stuff from the scrapped HS2 debacle.

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On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 17:14:17 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

And the lacquer for the copper wire?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 8:52:29 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 17:14:17 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to
applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in
applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

And the lacquer for the copper wire?

Shellac.

Polyimide.

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On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 8:52:29 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 17:14:17 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Funnily enough, yes.

QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

And the metal components for the generator?

Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

And the lacquer for the copper wire?

Shellac.

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Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an area the size of seven football pitches.

Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction, made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper waters up and down the UK’s coast.

Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the
coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an
area the size of seven football pitches.

Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction,
made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each
year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper
waters up and down the UK’s coast.

Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

QUOTE

Up to 90 per cent of a wind turbine’s total mass can be recycled but not
all parts have been easy to process.

There are established procedures which deal with recovering materials from foundations, towers and components inside the nacelle – which holds the gearbox, shafts, generator and brake.

But turbine blades have traditionally been challenging to recycle due to
the composite materials used in their manufacture.

And rotors can be massive. Some of the most modern blades measure up to
118m long – longer than a football pitch – so they are also cumbersome to move about.

ENDQUOTE

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On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:15:09 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an area the size of seven football

pitches.

Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction, made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper waters up and down the UK’s coast.

Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

Glass = silica = sand.

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2,000th Hull blade toasted as part of celebratory week for offshore wind in the UK.

QUOTE: The initial £110 million investment created 1,000 jobs at peak, though the figure had ramped down a little between projects. The addition will see that figure hit 1,200, with new processes involved as installation of offshore wind accelerates to
meet increased targets.

Those blades in the next 2,000 will feature carbon beams, in addition to the fibreglass and balsa wood. Mr Wilkinson said it was a “new skill set and trade for the industry”. ENDS

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:15:09 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine
towers that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off
the coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans
an area the size of seven football pitches.

Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction,
made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each
year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper
waters up and down the UK’s coast.

Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

Glass = silica = sand.

What holds the sand together?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

2,000th Hull blade toasted as part of celebratory week for offshore wind in the UK.

QUOTE: The initial £110 million investment created 1,000 jobs at peak, though the figure had ramped down a little between projects. The addition will see that figure hit 1,200, with new processes involved as
installation of offshore wind accelerates to meet increased targets.

Note that ‘the targets’ that have to be met are not CO2 reduction targets, but a Renewables Obligation target. The latter makes far more money for
Siemens than an effect-based one would, which is why it was set up that
way.

Those blades in the next 2,000 will feature carbon beams, in addition to
the fibreglass and balsa wood. Mr Wilkinson said it was a “new skill set and trade for the industry”. ENDS

Looks like wind-turbine blade manufacturing in Hull is being dragged
kicking and screaming into the 1990s.

Interesting that some 50,000 tons of used blades are to be either
incinerated or sent to land fill. And that by the end of the decade some 500,000 tons of used blades will need to be dealt with, not in an environmentally-friendly way.

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Siemens Gamesa has announced it will create bigger turbine blades – the largest of their kind in the world – to meet growing market demand.

The renewables giant currently produces 75m blades, one of which went on display in Hull city centre early last year.

The company, based at Alexandra Dock, will increase its blade size to 81.5m from 2020, as market demand continues to rise.

Andy Sykes, head of operational excellence, said: “It has stemmed from commercial demand – the bigger blades are more economically viable.

“They are capable of generating more power, and for customers a bigger return. Wind can offer a competitive and compelling story for electricity prices.

“The blades will be the largest single-cast product of its kind anywhere in the world.”

Siemens Gamesa will start producing the larger, 81.5m blades in 2020.

The company has confirmed its order book is full until 2022, as the region cements its place as being at the centre of the wind industry.

Mr Sykes said “several million pounds” worth of modifications would have to be made to the factory and equipment to scale up in order to create the larger blades. Currently, offshore wind power around the UK provides up to 7.5 gigawatts of power. It
is hoped in the future the figure could surpass 30GW.

“One of the reasons we chose our site here was not because of what it offered us in the present day but what it could offer us going into the future,” Mr Sykes said.

“There is room for expansion, and we will need to be creative in the factory with how we adjust how we do things to build the bigger blades.

“The market continues to grow. It is a really exciting time for us. From seeing the factory being built and first opening, to now modifying the factory for larger blades, is a sign of how far we have come.”

The factory in Hull started its operations in September 2016. Today, Siemens Gamesa employ around 1,000 people at the Hull factory. Blades are built almost entirely by hand.

Moulds are used to create the blades, which are constructed using balsa wood and fibreglass.

Mr Sykes said he was unsure of estimates on how big blades could be produced in a single mould.

He also said the existing 75m blade turbines which are operating out in the North Sea will not be replaced with the newer, larger blades until the end of their operating life.

News of Siemens Gamesa’s future plans and continued commitment to the region comes as Hull host the National Offshore Connections Conference.

The event is being held at the DoubleTree by Hilton on April 25 and 26, and brings together industry leaders from across the UK.

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On Sunday, 14 May 2023 at 12:25:17 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:15:09 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine
towers that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off >> the coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans
an area the size of seven football pitches.

Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction,
made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each
year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper
waters up and down the UK’s coast.

Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

Glass = silica = sand.

What holds the sand together?

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Fulgurite?

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On Sunday, 14 May 2023 at 10:45:54 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

On 14/05/2023 10:19 am, Spike wrote:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:

Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers >> that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the
coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an
area the size of seven football pitches.

Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction,
made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each
year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper
waters up and down the UK’s coast.

Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

QUOTE

Up to 90 per cent of a wind turbine’s total mass can be recycled but not all parts have been easy to process.

There are established procedures which deal with recovering materials from foundations, towers and components inside the nacelle – which holds the gearbox, shafts, generator and brake.

But turbine blades have traditionally been challenging to recycle due to the composite materials used in their manufacture.

And rotors can be massive. Some of the most modern blades measure up to 118m long – longer than a football pitch – so they are also cumbersome to
move about.

ENDQUOTE

Electric helicopters?

:-)

No joke.
Hydrogen fuel cell jets already exist.
'Jet' aircraft these days are high bypass turbofans and the burn can could be replaced with an electric motor powered by hydrogen.

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On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:49:32 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Hydrogen fuel cell jets already exist.
'Jet' aircraft these days are high bypass turbofans and the burn can could be replaced with an electric motor powered by hydrogen.

It takes more energy to make Hydrogen from natural gas than you get back when using it.

OBVIOUSLY.

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On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 6:04:59 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:49:32 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Hydrogen fuel cell jets already exist.
'Jet' aircraft these days are high bypass turbofans and the burn can could be replaced with an electric motor powered by hydrogen.

It takes more energy to make Hydrogen from natural gas than you get back when using it.

OBVIOUSLY.

QUOTE: At the moment, most hydrogen is made from natural gas via a process called steam reforming. This is energy-intensive and it takes more natural gas to produce the hydrogen using this process than would be required if we just kept using natural gas.
Emissions would actually go up by switching to hydrogen! ENDS

QED.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:49:32 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Hydrogen fuel cell jets already exist.
'Jet' aircraft these days are high bypass turbofans and the burn can
could be replaced with an electric motor powered by hydrogen.

It takes more energy to make Hydrogen from natural gas than you get back when using it.

OBVIOUSLY.

So what’s your solution to the conventional transatlantic jet-powered passenger aircraft?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 6:04:59 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:49:32 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Hydrogen fuel cell jets already exist.
'Jet' aircraft these days are high bypass turbofans and the burn can
could be replaced with an electric motor powered by hydrogen.

It takes more energy to make Hydrogen from natural gas than you get back when using it.

OBVIOUSLY.

QUOTE: At the moment, most hydrogen is made from natural gas via a
process called steam reforming. This is energy-intensive and it takes
more natural gas to produce the hydrogen using this process than would be required if we just kept using natural gas. Emissions would actually go
up by switching to hydrogen! ENDS

QED.

It’s the same with renewables. All that wind stuff needs a lot of backup.
So much so that you might as well throw away the bloody turbines and just
run with the backup. And as for emissions, just look what the Greens have
done to Germany - they have made the country one of the worst polluters in Europe.

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The global commitment to renewable energy sources has increased wind power generation; in turn, the construction of new 'windmills' has boosted the consumption of balsa wood: a wood that is as light as it is resistant, ideal for wind turbine propellers,
especially for smaller ones. Ecuador is the main exporter - in 2019 it doubled its international sales and in 2020 it doubled them again - and China is the biggest buyer. The business has fuelled illegal exploitation of this tropical tree and raised
concerns about its sustainability management .

The balsa is a tree native to South America that grows especially in the tropics as it needs a humid climate and fertile soil to develop properly. Each tree can grow to a height of 25 to 30 metres, which is very beneficial for its growers as it offers a
high performing per tree. In addition, the perfect age for cutting the tree is only three to four years after planting, which allows high profits to be obtained in a short time.

Its characteristics as a light and soft, yet highly resistant wood - strong and light at the same time - make it perfect for the manufacture of cladding for cruisers, skis, bridges... and especially for wind turbine propellers. Turbine blades are partly
made from balsa wood because it is cheaper than metal, more resistant than plastic and, unlike these materials, it is ideal for adapting and recovering on windy days.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

The global commitment to renewable energy sources has increased wind
power generation; in turn, the construction of new 'windmills' has
boosted the consumption of balsa wood: a wood that is as light as it is resistant, ideal for wind turbine propellers, especially for smaller ones.

Aye, and there’s the rub.

The larger the windmill, the more efficient it is. And the latest windmill blades are 118m long. They are that long because larger windmills are more profitable in a situation where the profits (which include subsidies) are
huge.

None of these were built from balsa…

<https://internationaltimber.com/resources/5-of-the-worlds-biggest-timber-structures/>

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An essential lumber product tucked inside the blades of sleek massive wind turbines is experiencing spot shortages of supply: Balsa wood.

The lightweight wood is used to build sandwich panel construction that combines light weight and strength. Turbine blades contain arrays of balsa wood strips, much of it sourced from Ecuador, which supplies 95 percent of the world’s demand.

For centuries, the fast-growing balsa tree has been prized for its light weight and stiffness relative to density. But balsa wood is expensive. Natural variations in the wood grain can be an impediment in increasingly precise performance requirements of
turbine blades.

Turbine makers are also producing ever-larger blades—the longest now measure more than 200 feet long, nearly the wingspan of an Airbus A380 jetliner. And they must be engineered to operate virtually maintenance-free for decades.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

An essential lumber product tucked inside the blades of sleek massive
wind turbines is experiencing spot shortages of supply: Balsa wood.

The lightweight wood is used to build sandwich panel construction that combines light weight and strength. Turbine blades contain arrays of
balsa wood strips, much of it sourced from Ecuador, which supplies 95
percent of the world’s demand.

For centuries, the fast-growing balsa tree has been prized for its light weight and stiffness relative to density. But balsa wood is expensive. Natural variations in the wood grain can be an impediment in increasingly precise performance requirements of turbine blades.

Turbine makers are also producing ever-larger blades—the longest now measure more than 200 feet long, nearly the wingspan of an Airbus A380 jetliner. And they must be engineered to operate virtually maintenance-free for decades.

Siemens Gamesa, the Spanish-German renewable energy giant, has started production of its first B115 wind turbine blades in Aalborg, Denmark.
Measuring 115 meters long, the blades will be used as part of the company’s next generation of offshore wind turbine⁠—the ‘SG 14-236 DD’.

Using IntegralBlade technology, the massive blades are cast in one piece
from fiberglass-reinforced epoxy. This method improves blade strength and reliability as it eliminates the need for glued joints, which create weaker areas. Siemens Gamesa’s B115 blades are also made using a new resin with added recyclability benefits. Once the turbine is decommissioned at the end
of its life, the blade materials can be separated and recycled in new applications.


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On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Yes - in Ecuador.

QUOTE: IN LATE 2019 loggers started arriving in Ewegono, a village of nine indigenous Waorani families on the Curaray river in the Ecuadorean Amazon. They were looking for balsa, a fast-growing species of tree whose wood is used in blades for wind-power
turbines. There was a global shortage. At first, villagers “grabbed chainsaws, axes and machetes to cut it down”, says Saúl Nihua, Ewegono’s leader. The pay could be $150 a day, a fortune in a region where most people have no jobs. ENDS

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JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:

On 15/05/2023 09:24 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

An essential lumber product tucked inside the blades of sleek massive
wind turbines is experiencing spot shortages of supply: Balsa wood.
The lightweight wood is used to build sandwich panel construction that
combines light weight and strength. Turbine blades contain arrays of
balsa wood strips, much of it sourced from Ecuador, which supplies 95
percent of the world’s demand.
For centuries, the fast-growing balsa tree has been prized for its light
weight and stiffness relative to density. But balsa wood is expensive.
Natural variations in the wood grain can be an impediment in
increasingly precise performance requirements of turbine blades.
Turbine makers are also producing ever-larger blades—the longest now
measure more than 200 feet long, nearly the wingspan of an Airbus A380
jetliner. And they must be engineered to operate virtually maintenance-free for decades.

Any idea of the full (visible and invisible) cost of importing tropical woods?

I’ll leave Mason to deal with the costs issue, but consider that one of the fundamental parameters of balsa is its density, which can vary from 60 to
380 kg/m^3, which in turn suggests highly variable mechanical properties.
This implies that much of the available balsa will not be suitable for structural use in a highly-engineered, demanding application.

Which of course accounts for the move to carbon composites in the larger turbine blades that today’s economic environment demands.

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On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:07 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Yes - in Ecuador.

QUOTE: IN LATE 2019 loggers started arriving in Ewegono, a village of nine indigenous Waorani families on the Curaray river in the Ecuadorean Amazon. They were looking for balsa, a fast-growing species of tree whose wood is used in blades for wind-

power turbines. There was a global shortage. At first, villagers “grabbed chainsaws, axes and machetes to cut it down”, says Saúl Nihua, Ewegono’s leader. The pay could be $150 a day, a fortune in a region where most people have no jobs. ENDS

Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry.
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SIEMENS IN HULL USE IT ALL THE TIME.
SEE:

https://cdn.offshorewind.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/09083503/Siemens-Gamesa-to-Double-Hull-Blade-Facility.jpg

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:07 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:49:12 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwAmAtdWcAMzIwy?format=jpg&name=medium

Do wind turbines grow on trees?

Yes - in Ecuador.

QUOTE: IN LATE 2019 loggers started arriving in Ewegono, a village of
nine indigenous Waorani families on the Curaray river in the Ecuadorean
Amazon. They were looking for balsa, a fast-growing species of tree
whose wood is used in blades for wind-power turbines. There was a global
shortage. At first, villagers “grabbed chainsaws, axes and machetes to
cut it down”, says Saúl Nihua, Ewegono’s leader. The pay could be $150 a
day, a fortune in a region where most people have no jobs. ENDS

Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications
that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry.
-------------
SIEMENS IN HULL USE IT ALL THE TIME.
SEE:

https://cdn.offshorewind.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/09083503/Siemens-Gamesa-to-Double-Hull-Blade-Facility.jpg

Siemens Gamesa, the Spanish-German renewable energy giant, has started production of its first B115 wind turbine blades in Aalborg, Denmark.
Measuring 115 meters long, the blades will be used as part of the company’s next generation of offshore wind turbine⁠—the ‘SG 14-236 DD’.

Using IntegralBlade technology, the massive blades are cast in one piece
from fiberglass-reinforced epoxy. This method improves blade strength and reliability as it eliminates the need for glued joints, which create weaker areas. Siemens Gamesa’s B115 blades are also made using a new resin with added recyclability benefits. Once the turbine is decommissioned at the end
of its life, the blade materials can be separated and recycled in new applications.

[Hint: Balsa wood needs gluing, fibre-reinforced epoxy doesn’t. So there
are no stress-concentrators from this source in the latter form of construction]

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On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:12:15 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

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SIEMENS IN HULL USE IT ALL THE TIME.
SEE:

https://cdn.offshorewind.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/09083503/Siemens-Gamesa-to-Double-Hull-Blade-Facility.jpg

My workplace at BP is to the right of this photo.

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QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

The gammons don't give a toss about clean air and green spaces.

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JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:

On 15/05/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:12:15 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

SIEMENS IN HULL USE IT ALL THE TIME.
SEE:

https://cdn.offshorewind.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/09083503/Siemens-Gamesa-to-Double-Hull-Blade-Facility.jpg

My workplace at BP is to the right of this photo.

In the water?

Is that where he garaged his bicycle?

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On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 17:35:28 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

The gammons don't give a toss about clean air and green spaces.

See Birmingham story today for proof.

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On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 17:38:40 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 17:35:28 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

The gammons don't give a toss about clean air and green spaces.

See Birmingham story today for proof.

A 20-year plan to reform Birmingham's transport network would see the city's ring road transformed into a "green way," the council leader has said.

Speaking to Radio 4's Today programme, Councillor Ian Ward said the proposals were the "most ambitious plan for the city in a century".

Due to be published on Tuesday, the plans also include a large city-centre park, cycle paths and walkways.

Mr Ward said the plan was not a "war on motorists" but aimed to make Birmingham "more liveable and accessible".

Speaking about the ring road which circles the city centre, councillor Ward said: "It’s currently an urban motorway which constrains growth and disconnects our communities.

"Because in the future we’ll have less reliance on the car, that creates the opportunity to turn some of that ring road into green space in the future."

He said that Birmingham was attracting more investment than ever and that as growth expands into deprived areas beyond the ring road, it was important "that the wealth that is created as a result is shared with those communities".

Birmingham's population is forecasted to grow by more than 150,000 over the next decade, he said, and "we’ll simply gridlock the city if we continue to all be moving around in cars".

Our Future City: Central Birmingham Framework 2040 will see the city double its cycle paths to 200km and increase its green spaces to a level comparable with Vienna.

Councillor Ward said the local authority would work closely with developers and investors to fund its ambitious plan.

"As we grow the city we’ll be looking to attract in that investment that will allow us to not only increase our density and create more homes and more jobs but also to increase the amount of green space," he said.

The full plans are due to be released on Tuesday and councillor Ward said he was optimistic as to how they would be recieved after a positive consultation process

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Live in Birmingham?

High-density living on its way! Enjoy!


Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 17:38:40 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 17:35:28 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater
London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of >>> the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from
August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner
air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign >>> for clean air. ENDS

The gammons don't give a toss about clean air and green spaces.

See Birmingham story today for proof.

A 20-year plan to reform Birmingham's transport network would see the
city's ring road transformed into a "green way," the council leader has said.

Speaking to Radio 4's Today programme, Councillor Ian Ward said the
proposals were the "most ambitious plan for the city in a century".

Due to be published on Tuesday, the plans also include a large
city-centre park, cycle paths and walkways.

Mr Ward said the plan was not a "war on motorists" but aimed to make Birmingham "more liveable and accessible".

Speaking about the ring road which circles the city centre, councillor
Ward said: "It’s currently an urban motorway which constrains growth and disconnects our communities.

"Because in the future we’ll have less reliance on the car, that creates the opportunity to turn some of that ring road into green space in the future."

He said that Birmingham was attracting more investment than ever and that
as growth expands into deprived areas beyond the ring road, it was
important "that the wealth that is created as a result is shared with those communities".

Birmingham's population is forecasted to grow by more than 150,000 over
the next decade, he said, and "we’ll simply gridlock the city if we continue to all be moving around in cars".

Our Future City: Central Birmingham Framework 2040 will see the city
double its cycle paths to 200km and increase its green spaces to a level comparable with Vienna.

Councillor Ward said the local authority would work closely with
developers and investors to fund its ambitious plan.

"As we grow the city we’ll be looking to attract in that investment that will allow us to not only increase our density and create more homes and
more jobs but also to increase the amount of green space," he said.

The full plans are due to be released on Tuesday and councillor Ward said
he was optimistic as to how they would be recieved after a positive consultation process

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Britishvolt's collapse seen as 'an unmitigated disaster' for UK auto industry UK startup Britishvolt's decision to call in the administrators strikes a major blow to the country's hopes of building a home-grown battery industry.

UK startup Britishvolt filed for the UK’s equivalent of bankruptcy on Tuesday, letting go of all but a couple dozen employees as the three-year-old company struck a major blow to the country's hopes of building a home-grown battery industry.

“I would call it an unmitigated disaster for the auto industry in the UK,” Andy Palmer, the former Aston Martin CEO, said Wednesday on BBC radio.

“Ultimately, British car manufacturing will migrate to where the battery factories are, which is going to be in central Europe.”

The startup, which struggled to raise funds for a major electric-vehicle battery factory in northern England, failed to get past the stage of developing prototypes for an industry that is vital for the UK’s prospects in the global race to become self-
sufficient in EV technology.

It has left the UK sorely lacking the battery manufacturing capability that would be absolutely critical to the auto industry’s future. Industry experts estimate Britain needs four to six large battery plants to sustain a healthy car industry.
Currently it has one small 1.9 gigawatt-hour Nissan plant in Sunderland, northeast England.

Nissan is building a second 9 GWh plant at the same location with Chinese partner Envision AESC, which could expand to 25 GWh.

In the wake of Britishvolt’s downfall, a House of Commons select committee opened an inquiry into the viability of EV battery manufacturing in the UK.

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On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:35:28 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

The gammons don't give a toss about clean air and green spaces.

A number of newly-installed Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) cameras in south London have had their wires cut as the backlash against Sadiq Khan's expansion continues to grow.

Four cameras in Abbey Wood, Greenwich, appear to have suffered damage, according to the reports.

Ulez cameras come under Transport for London's Automatic Number Plater Recognition system, which operate 24/7 to monitor the zone.

Some 300 new cameras have been installed across the expanded Ulez zone, which will cover all of London from August 29.

Another 2,750 cameras are expected to be installed before the expansion officially takes place, costing around £45 million.

It is the latest backlash against Mr Khan's expansion plans after the Mayor was slammed for decrying a "far-right element" to those who oppose the Ulez expansion.

Speaking at a People's Question Time event last week, Mr Khan said some people with "legitimate objections" to the ULEZ expansion have been "joining hands" with those from people from "far-right groups".

“Let’s be frank, let’s call a spade a spade. Some of those outside are part of the far-right. Some are Covid deniers. Some are vaccine-deniers. And some are Tories," the Mayor of London said. Mr Khan's comments sparked anger in the crowd, with
members of the public shouting back to the Mayor: "We are not the far-right - normal people are not the far-right."

Conservative Assembly Member Peter Fortune, also at the event, criticised Mr Khan's comments, saying: "You heard it didn’t you? If you disagree with the Mayor, he’s going to paint you as far-right."

Mr Khan went on to say he will seek to address people's "legitimate concerns" and "make sure we carry on listening to make the ULEZ a success" Mr Khan previously said extending the ultra-low emission zone to cover the whole of the city was "one of the
toughest decisions I've taken".

But he has insisted air pollution is making Londoners "sick from cradle to the grave", with illnesses such as cancer, lung disease, dementia and asthma, and said he wants to remain "on the right side of history" by expanding Ulez.

Meanwhile, four leading London Labour MPs are calling on Sadiq Khan to backtrack on his plans to extend the Ulez zone.

Labour MPs Seema Malhotra, Jon Cruddas, Siobhain McDonagh and Abena Oppong-Asare told LBC in February they have significant concerns regarding the scheme’s expansion.

Speaking to LBC News, Labour's Abena Oppong-Asare said: "My concern is we don't want to be in a situation where people are going to be worse off."

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QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone. ENDS

You see - doctors are celebrating cleaner air while the senile gammons rail against it.
Stuff the lungs of children and the sick.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater
London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone. ENDS

You see - doctors are celebrating cleaner air while the senile gammons rail against it.
Stuff the lungs of children and the sick.

Perhaps the doctors need to update their knowledge:

Infections' Impact on Asthma

Asthma can be triggered by a variety of things. One of the most common
triggers are infections, including respiratory viruses and, to a lesser
degree, bacterial and fungal infections of the respiratory tract.3

Respiratory viruses are the predominant infectious cause of asthma attacks.
As the viruses attach to receptors on the lining of the airways, they effectively "trip the alarms" for the immune system to attack, leading to inflammation and the onset of acute asthma symptoms.

In some cases, the symptoms of the infection will precede the attack; in others, the infection and asthma symptoms will co-occur.

Among the respiratory viruses closely link to asthma symptoms are:4

Rhinoviruses, the predominant cause of the common cold

Coronaviruses, some of which cause colds

Adenoviruses, associated with colds, bronchitis, and pneumonia

Influenza viruses, associated with flu

Parainfluenza viruses, which mainly affect infants and young children

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), which most children get by the age of 2

Viral-induced asthma attack is extremely common, affecting roughly 85% of children and 50% of adults with asthma.4

Less commonly, bacteria like Streptococcus pneumoniae, Hemophilus
influenzae, and Moraxella catarrhalis have been known to trigger asthma attacks, particularly if a sinus infection is involved.3

Fungal infections are more closely associated with poor asthma control
rather than the onset of an attack, although it can occur.5

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QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].” ENDS

UKIP has done a study that says that's all false.

See here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwOXLi8XgAE9WpH?format=jpg&name=900x900

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a
disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up
for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].” ENDS

And what does the good doctor plan to do about indoor pollution - which can
be up to 8 times the level of that outdoors?

Has the good doctor researched the health of the cycle-intense car-banning Dutch, who die from the same diseases as the Brits but sometimes in greater proportion?

The silence is deafening.

Air Quality
Uncertainties

https://wintoncentre.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/does-air-pollution-kill-40000-people-each-year-uk/

QUOTE

“There are huge uncertainties surrounding all the measures of impacts of
air pollution, with inadequate knowledge replaced by substantial doses of expert judgement.

These uncertainties should be better reflected in the public debates.

In addition, the situation in the UK is not what we would usually think of
as a ‘crisis’.

ENDQUOTE


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On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 5:55:54 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].” ENDS

UKIP has done a study that says that's all false.

See here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwOXLi8XgAE9WpH?format=jpg&name=900x900

Even Farage is now saying Brexit is a disaster.

And there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth!
BREXIT HAS FAILED!
Thanks a bunch @Nigel_Farage
Where do we apply for a refund?
Asking for a country! 🇬🇧

https://twitter.com/i/status/1658234370409263106?fbclid=IwAR3nK4LCEzDe6y-7r8Z1KS6cC8SXA8NQzd7p_JBaVuPNUUhjN-jmCnoft8o

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 5:55:54 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s
organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a
disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up
for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot
of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].” ENDS

UKIP has done a study that says that's all false.

See here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwOXLi8XgAE9WpH?format=jpg&name=900x900

Even Farage is now saying Brexit is a disaster.

And there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth!

BREXIT HAS FAILED!

That’s the story they put about to please simpleton Remainers.

Don’t you ever listen to the business news?

[Rhetorical question]

Thanks a bunch @Nigel_Farage
Where do we apply for a refund?
Asking for a country!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1658234370409263106?fbclid=IwAR3nK4LCEzDe6y-7r8Z1KS6cC8SXA8NQzd7p_JBaVuPNUUhjN-jmCnoft8o

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QUOTE: The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on
hospital wards. ENDS

Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.
QUOTE:
A new report shows that the first year of the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) expansion to inner London has achieved a dramatic reduction in emissions and air pollution, and a huge increase in the share of vehicles that meet the ULEZ standards.

The first year of the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) expansion to inner London has achieved a dramatic reduction in emissions and air pollution, and a huge increase in the share of vehicles that meet the ULEZ standards, according to a major new report
from City Hall and peer reviewed by Dr Gary Fuller at Imperial College London.

Despite huge progress, the whole of London still exceeds the World Health Organization’s guidelines for air quality, and over half of deaths attributable to air pollution are in outer London.

Around 4,000 Londoners die prematurely every year due to toxic air, and the report published today shows that the Mayor’s air quality policies, in particular the ULEZ and LEZ schemes, are having a transformative impact - cutting the number of older,
more polluting vehicles seen driving in London and reducing the levels of harmful air pollution.

The ULEZ was introduced in central London in 2019 and expanded to inner London in October 2021.

The central London ULEZ had a clear impact – in its first 10 months of operation, it helped reduce road transport nitrogen oxides (NOx) emissions by 35 per cent and CO2 emissions by 6 percent in the zone.

The landmark report shows that the ULEZ expansion has built on these benefits, with harmful nitrogen dioxide (NO2) levels 46 per cent lower in central London and 21 per cent lower in inner London than they would have been without the scheme.

The number of older, more polluting vehicles in the zone has also continued to reduce significantly, dropping by 60 per cent since the inner London expansion came into operation in October 2021– an average reduction of 74,000 polluting vehicles every
day seen driving in the zone. Overall, there were nearly 50,000 fewer vehicles seen in the zone on an average day – a reduction of almost five per cent compared to the month prior to the expansion.

The Mayor announced last November that the ULEZ will be expanded across all London boroughs in August 2023 to help bring the air quality and associated health benefits to the five million people living in outer London.

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan said: “The evidence from this landmark report is clear – the ULEZ works. This is beyond dispute. It has already reduced toxic air pollution by almost half in central London and by over a fifth in inner London,
transforming the quality of air for four million Londoners. "

“But there’s still more to do. Toxic air is a matter of life and death, with around 4,000 deaths in London attributed to air pollution in 2019. It’s also stunting the growth of children’s lungs and causing people to develop life-changing
illnesses, such as cancer, lung disease, dementia and asthma.

Other key findings in the report include harmful nitrogen dioxide (NO2) concentrations are revealed to have reduced further than originally predicted, and are estimated to be 21 per cent lower in inner London and 46 per cent lower in central London than
they would have been without the ULEZ.

Crucially, NO2 levels have not returned to pre-pandemic levels, indicating that even as traffic levels have risen, cleaner vehicles have had such positive impacts on emissions that air pollution levels continue to be far below what they would have been
without the ULEZ and other policies that the Mayor has implemented.

Christina Calderato, TfL’s Director of Strategy and Policy, said: “This report is further clear evidence that the ULEZ is highly effective and does what it is designed to do, protect Londoners’ health and significantly reduce pollution. It is great
to see that significant numbers of people have moved away from older, more polluting vehicles and some of the most deadly emissions have been cut by a quarter. With London still exceeding WHO guidelines and those in outer London disproportionately
suffering as a result of the capital’s filthy air, there is no stronger case to support the zone covering the whole of the city."
ENDS

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on hospital wards. ENDS

Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.

QUOTE:
A new report shows that the first year of the Ultra Low Emission Zone
(ULEZ) expansion to inner London has achieved a dramatic reduction in emissions and air pollution, and a huge increase in the share of vehicles that meet the ULEZ standards.

A ‘dramatic reduction’ in emissions and air pollution in the last year - yet no mention at all of even one asthma case fewer than before.

Yet Khan said “The evidence from this landmark report is clear – the ULEZ works. This is beyond dispute. It has already reduced toxic air pollution
by almost half in central London and by over a fifth in inner London, transforming the quality of air for four million Londoners”.

So where is the mention reduction in asthma cases that could have been
expected if the ‘pollution causes asthma’ hypothesis is true?

The words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whispered in the sounds of silence.

The first year of the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) expansion to inner London has achieved a dramatic reduction in emissions and air pollution,
and a huge increase in the share of vehicles that meet the ULEZ
standards, according to a major new report from City Hall and peer
reviewed by Dr Gary Fuller at Imperial College London.

Despite huge progress, the whole of London still exceeds the World Health Organization’s guidelines for air quality, and over half of deaths attributable to air pollution are in outer London.

Around 4,000 Londoners die prematurely every year due to toxic air, and
the report published today shows that the Mayor’s air quality policies,
in particular the ULEZ and LEZ schemes, are having a transformative
impact - cutting the number of older, more polluting vehicles seen
driving in London and reducing the levels of harmful air pollution.

The ULEZ was introduced in central London in 2019 and expanded to inner London in October 2021.

The central London ULEZ had a clear impact – in its first 10 months of operation, it helped reduce road transport nitrogen oxides (NOx)
emissions by 35 per cent and CO2 emissions by 6 percent in the zone.

The landmark report shows that the ULEZ expansion has built on these benefits, with harmful nitrogen dioxide (NO2) levels 46 per cent lower in central London and 21 per cent lower in inner London than they would have been without the scheme.

The number of older, more polluting vehicles in the zone has also
continued to reduce significantly, dropping by 60 per cent since the
inner London expansion came into operation in October 2021– an average reduction of 74,000 polluting vehicles every day seen driving in the
zone. Overall, there were nearly 50,000 fewer vehicles seen in the zone
on an average day – a reduction of almost five per cent compared to the month prior to the expansion.

The Mayor announced last November that the ULEZ will be expanded across
all London boroughs in August 2023 to help bring the air quality and associated health benefits to the five million people living in outer London.

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan said: “The evidence from this landmark report is clear – the ULEZ works. This is beyond dispute. It has already reduced toxic air pollution by almost half in central London and by over
a fifth in inner London, transforming the quality of air for four million Londoners. "

“But there’s still more to do. Toxic air is a matter of life and death, with around 4,000 deaths in London attributed to air pollution in 2019. It’s also stunting the growth of children’s lungs and causing people to develop life-changing illnesses, such as cancer, lung disease, dementia and asthma.

Other key findings in the report include harmful nitrogen dioxide (NO2) concentrations are revealed to have reduced further than originally predicted, and are estimated to be 21 per cent lower in inner London and
46 per cent lower in central London than they would have been without the ULEZ.

Crucially, NO2 levels have not returned to pre-pandemic levels,
indicating that even as traffic levels have risen, cleaner vehicles have
had such positive impacts on emissions that air pollution levels continue
to be far below what they would have been without the ULEZ and other
policies that the Mayor has implemented.

Christina Calderato, TfL’s Director of Strategy and Policy, said: “This report is further clear evidence that the ULEZ is highly effective and
does what it is designed to do, protect Londoners’ health and
significantly reduce pollution. It is great to see that significant
numbers of people have moved away from older, more polluting vehicles and some of the most deadly emissions have been cut by a quarter. With London still exceeding WHO guidelines and those in outer London
disproportionately suffering as a result of the capital’s filthy air,
there is no stronger case to support the zone covering the whole of the city."
ENDS

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On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.

Oh dear - what a surprise.
Not.

"Vauxhall owner warns it may be forced to close its Ellesmere Port factory unless ministers manage to renegotiate a key part of the UK’s Brexit deal with the EU."

https://www.ft.com/content/8c80eee7-74be-460b-b53a-3bd53caaef11

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.

Oh dear - what a surprise.
Not.

"Vauxhall owner warns it may be forced to close its Ellesmere Port
factory unless ministers manage to renegotiate a key part of the UK’s Brexit deal with the EU."

https://www.ft.com/content/8c80eee7-74be-460b-b53a-3bd53caaef11

You don’t seem to have tumbled to the fact that the last thing the EU needs is an independent and successful trading nation 22 miles from its western border. It is never going to be realistic over this matter. It is doing all
it can to **** the UK over.

Keep cheering the EU, even if it’s to your own detriment. It’s rather like cheering for the Axis in WWII.

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On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 6:34:03 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.

Well done, Brextards:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwUiZZNXsAECu8k?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 6:34:03 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.

Well done, Brextards:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwUiZZNXsAECu8k?format=jpg&name=medium

Highest ever levels of car ownership at 40.7 million!

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QUOTE: The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez
boundary. ENDS

If cars were to try this they'd be triggering the CCTV cameras like buggery. Some pillock drivers can't even get out of the end of their street!

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are
expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez boundary. ENDS

If cars were to try this they'd be triggering the CCTV cameras like buggery.

Some pillock drivers can't even get out of the end of their street!

So the boundaries of the ULEZ are set by pillocks?

Well, well.

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QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution. ENDS

Kevin from UKIP knows better though.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a
disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution. ENDS

Kevin from UKIP knows better though.

Kindly tell Dr Mark Hayden that ‘exacerbate’ means ‘make worse’, so there
was no need to use both terms in his claim, unless it was for some dramatic purpose.

exacerbate
verb [ T ]
UK /ɪɡˈzæs.ə.beɪt/ US /ɪɡˈzæs.ɚ.beɪt/

to make something that is already bad even worse:
This attack will exacerbate the already tense relations between the two communities.

(Cambridge Dictionary)

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QUOTE: “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. ENDS

Isn't COPD that load of tripe trading bloc on the far side of the world?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWIY4mWAA4pL0t?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so
much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to
dementia, asthma to COPD. ENDS

Isn't COPD that load of tripe trading bloc on the far side of the world?

No.

It’s one of the things that the healthy-cycling Netherlands die from in greater proportion than UK lardarses.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWIY4mWAA4pL0t?format=jpg&name=medium

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QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone. ENDS

Celebrate the fines dropping through thousands of letter boxes for polluting the air like VED payments do.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

"Vauxhall owner warns it may be forced to close its Ellesmere Port
factory unless ministers manage to renegotiate a key part of the UK’s Brexit deal with the EU."

https://www.ft.com/content/8c80eee7-74be-460b-b53a-3bd53caaef11

As I mentioned yesterday, the news today is that the German car industry is also lobbying for a delay in the new ‘content’ rules, as they will also be caught by it and in their own words “…it will also affect Germany’s ability
to export vehicles to the important UK market”.

IOW, the EU has shot itself in the foot again and is going to have to eat ordure. 🙄

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On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 7:02:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone. ENDS
Celebrate the fines dropping through thousands of letter boxes for polluting the air like VED payments do.

VED is a tax on the toxic fumes your car spews out - not payments to use the roads.

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On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:37:59 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 7:02:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone. ENDS
Celebrate the fines dropping through thousands of letter boxes for polluting the air like VED payments do.

VED is a tax on the toxic fumes your car spews out - not payments to use the roads.

Even electric car owners will be liable for VED soon.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

VED is a tax on the toxic fumes your car spews out - not payments to use the roads.

‘Toxic fumes’ as in your upcoming 7000-mile tour of the EU?

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QUOTE: They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

They will have to hope that last year's all time record is not passed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaYKq0WAAQ86hp?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

They will have to hope that last year's all time record is not passed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaYKq0WAAQ86hp?format=jpg&name=medium

erm…

It could be a slogan alongside Ignorance is Strength:

Temperature Is Not Pollution

HTH

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Even electric car owners will be liable for VED soon.

Well, that comes as a surprise. Not.

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On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:55:20 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

They will have to hope that last year's all time record is not passed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaYKq0WAAQ86hp?format=jpg&name=medium

It could be worse though.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwa3vCiaMAgzl-D?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:55:20 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from >> August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner
air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign
for clean air. ENDS

They will have to hope that last year's all time record is not passed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaYKq0WAAQ86hp?format=jpg&name=medium

It could be worse though.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwa3vCiaMAgzl-D?format=jpg&name=medium

That’s in Pasadena, California!

[Hint: it’s a lot nearer the Equator!]

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QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2013/12/30/17/27-godfrey-bloom-gtv2.jpg?quality=75&width=1200&auto=webp

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On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:40:38 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

Bloom is an advocate of "free speech" as you can see. :-)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwd9iFQXoAEq4B9?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:40:38 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to
speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and
survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

Bloom is an advocate of "free speech" as you can see. :-)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwd9iFQXoAEq4B9?format=jpg&name=medium

I fully remember being with my parents in Central London when the 1952 smog came down. We had arranged to pick up my mum from outside one of the big stores, but the smog was so thick I had to lean out of the passenger window
to tell my dad whether he was parallel to the kerb and how far from it he
was. My mum, wondering how we were going to find her, heard my voice
calling instructions to my dad, and knew she was OK. As she was a driver
too, she took over the navigation. I don’t recall how long it took us to
get home to the suburbs.

Tens of thousands died due to that smog, but due to political correctness
the real number was hushed up, and it was going to be sixty years before
anyone had ‘air pollution’ noted on their death certificate.

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On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:38:01 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:40:38 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

Bloom is an advocate of "free speech" as you can see. :-)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwd9iFQXoAEq4B9?format=jpg&name=medium

There seem to be a theme here amongst the gammon swivels.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwe4QCIXsAMqCuS?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:38:01 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:40:38 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote: >>> QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to

speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and
survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

Bloom is an advocate of "free speech" as you can see. :-)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwd9iFQXoAEq4B9?format=jpg&name=medium

There seem to be a theme here amongst the gammon swivels.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwe4QCIXsAMqCuS?format=jpg&name=medium

Gammon swivels were until a few weeks ago available on Amazon, but seem to
have been taken off their product list.

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On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 10:54:04 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:38:01 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:40:38 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

Bloom is an advocate of "free speech" as you can see. :-)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwd9iFQXoAEq4B9?format=jpg&name=medium

There seem to be a theme here amongst the gammon swivels.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwe4QCIXsAMqCuS?format=jpg&name=medium

The poor petals are very touchy to the truth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwj0nC1XoAE3XKA?format=jpg&name=medium

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Is everyone enjoying the benefits yet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkKVfQXoAAbfpB?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Is everyone enjoying the benefits yet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkKVfQXoAAbfpB?format=jpg&name=medium

I’ll respond to that with emoji, you just might get the point. Words don’t seem to help you.


🇺🇦🇷🇺💥🦠

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On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:31:08 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Is everyone enjoying the benefits yet?

Even more lies.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkOFZFX0AA2C3S?format=jpg&name=small

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On Saturday, 20 May 2023 at 11:47:48 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:31:08 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Is everyone enjoying the benefits yet?

Even more lies.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkOFZFX0AA2C3S?format=jpg&name=small

Not from UKIP, surely?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:31:08 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Is everyone enjoying the benefits yet?

Even more lies.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwkOFZFX0AA2C3S?format=jpg&name=small

I’ll respond to that with emoji, you just might get the point. Words don’t seem to help you.

🇺🇦🇷🇺💥🦠

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The dream.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlNvlcWIAI-iIv?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

The dream.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlNvlcWIAI-iIv?format=jpg&name=medium

That’s from 36 years ago!

Getting desperate, are we?

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Well said, Sir Elt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlqI4LWYAATu9N?format=jpg&name=medium

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Must visit here before it closes down.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlruUYXgAIlwlK?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Well said, Sir Elt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlqI4LWYAATu9N?format=jpg&name=medium

Well, if he’s a ‘European’ (whatever that is) why doesn’t he p*ss off there
and never come back?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Must visit here before it closes down.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwlruUYXgAIlwlK?format=jpg&name=medium

Germany’s car makers are really p*ssed off because their exports to the UK will attract the same tariff as cars exported there from here.

However did the EU manage that own goal?

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What did you gammon swivels expect - gambolling unicorns?
Jesus, you're thick.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwmGm7RWYAAxtp2?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

What did you gammon swivels expect - gambolling unicorns?
Jesus, you're thick.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwmGm7RWYAAxtp2?format=jpg&name=medium

4273 votes! Wow!

GET YOUR GAMMON SWIVELS HERE!

<https://www.gammontechstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GTP%2D1501%2E&CartID=0>

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On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 8:35:48 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

What did you gammon swivels expect - gambolling unicorns?
Jesus, you're thick.

This says it all really.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwoNj9-X0AAJt_9?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 8:35:48 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

What did you gammon swivels expect - gambolling unicorns?
Jesus, you're thick.

Get your Gammon swivels here:

<https://www.gammontechstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GTP%2D1501%2E&CartID=0>

(Safe)

This says it all really.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwoNj9-X0AAJt_9?format=jpg&name=medium

Popular stuff sells fast, so what’s new?

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The pride of the UK Brextards:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwo-kjoWAAEos-7?format=jpg&name=medium

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On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air pollution

and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on

hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a nuclear power station in their back yard.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

The pride of the UK Brextards:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwo-kjoWAAEos-7?format=jpg&name=medium

Who was it on the EU side that warned “If you leave, we will hurt you”, in the run up to the 2016 referendum?

How is that working out?

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Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London
boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the
ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August >> 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They >> called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. >>
Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser,
told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is >> not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up
for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot
of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and >> continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take
part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which
will become the Ulez boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to
mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report
issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and
the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the
NHS to stop creating air pollution and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency
medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist
- have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air >> is placing a “huge strain” on hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air
pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage
accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution >> is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could
be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the
main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction
towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all
healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle
ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are
too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much
illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia,
asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising
awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?

That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a nuclear power station in their back yard.

…is the right answer.


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On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 10:47:24 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwpSl9VWYAApYCZ?format=jpg&name=medium

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On Sunday, 21 May 2023 at 11:25:50 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 10:47:24 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwpSl9VWYAApYCZ?format=jpg&name=medium

Are you claiming all London's current electrical needs are satisfied by wind power and there is enough excess to power every electric car in London when petrol and diesel cars are banned? How is this energy stored at off peak times?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 10:47:24 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwpSl9VWYAApYCZ?format=jpg&name=medium

Last November wind was poor over the whole of Europe. In the UK CCGT had to supply the 15GW shortfall for 25 days, some 9TWh of difference.There were
also serious shortfalls of wind in January, February, and March. Solar was useless. The highly-polluting biomass, brought by diesel-powered ships from
the US, essentially was the only ‘renewable’ of any significance, and that was only a small percentage of demand.

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On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 12:30:47 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Are you claiming all London's current electrical needs are satisfied by wind power and there is enough excess to power every electric car in London when petrol and diesel cars are banned? How is this energy stored at off peak times?

They knew what they were voting for.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwqWNUnXsAEdpAO?format=png&name=medium

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On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 4:20:47 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 12:30:47 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Are you claiming all London's current electrical needs are satisfied by wind power and there is enough excess to power every electric car in London when petrol and diesel cars are banned? How is this energy stored at off peak times?

They knew what they were voting for.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwqWNUnXsAEdpAO?format=png&name=medium

Sunday Times today!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwqeSyJWIAA4h7K?format=jpg&name=medium

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 12:30:47 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Are you claiming all London's current electrical needs are satisfied by
wind power and there is enough excess to power every electric car in
London when petrol and diesel cars are banned? How is this energy stored
at off peak times?

They knew what they were voting for.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwqWNUnXsAEdpAO?format=png&name=medium

Nobody, but nobody, voted for windmills. They were imposed by a Renewables Obligation (and not a temperature or CO2 obligation) by the EU in order to
make Siemens a shedload of money.

We simply couldn’t have had a results-based obligation, because there won’t be any results from this travesty. Except for those who are raking it in,
of course.

QUOTE

And at the moment, we are going in the wrong direction. Overall generation capacity available to the National Grid actually fell from 77.9 GW in 2019
to 76.6 GW in 2021.

Moreover, wind and solar farms are not performing in the way which was
hoped. Last year alone, the available generation capacity of wind power
grew by 5.3 per cent and solar by 2.8 per cent.

Yet the amount of electricity actually generated by wind, wave and solar plunged by 9.3 per cent, largely on account of low wind speeds.

This is a problem which the wind industry has yet to grasp: there is a long-term declining trend in wind speeds over the UK – and indeed
throughout most of the world.

This is an aspect of climate change which gets little coverage, perhaps
because it conflicts with the lazy and incorrect narrative, perpetuated by
the former chairman of the Environment Agency among others, that Britain is facing more ‘violent’ weather.

ENDQUOTE

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On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 12:30:47 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
How is this energy stored at off peak times?

Apparently, there is a brand new gigafactory near Blyth called Britishvolt which is just muddy field which has gone bust, but it's early days yet.

Just give it 50 years or so.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 12:30:47 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
How is this energy stored at off peak times?

Apparently, there is a brand new gigafactory near Blyth called
Britishvolt which is just muddy field which has gone bust, but it's early days yet.

Just give it 50 years or so.

How does a muddy field go bust?

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Britain has now missed its window of opportunity to build a battery industry, and the government, including Rishi Sunak, is largely to blame, the head of collapsed cell manufacturer Britishvolt has told Sky News.

The company was feted as the jewel in Britain's manufacturing crown - the first home-grown gigafactory, co-financed by the government and turning out electric car batteries from its plant in the North East - but went into administration earlier this year.

Now, in his first interview since its implosion, co-founder Orral Nadjari blamed government bureaucracy for its failure.

"We lost that window of opportunity," said Mr Nadjari. "We already are behind East Asia. We're already behind continental Europe. The UK, unfortunately, has lost out or is losing out on the gigafactory economy, which is massive in terms of job creation.

"Unfortunately we didn't see that same support from the Conservative government in order to level up the North East. Because the North East wasn't as important for them as maybe other places in this country."

It comes as Vauxhall's parent company Stellantis called on the government to renegotiate its Brexit deal with the EU, telling a parliamentary committee's inquiry on electric vehicle production it was no longer able to meet trade rules on where parts are
sourced.

Stellantis' warning was echoed by Ford, who said in a statement tariffs will penalise companies that invested early in electric vehicles the hardest.

The industry, Ford said, "does not have sufficient supply of locally-sourced batteries and components to meet demand".

"Tightening the trade rules at this point risks undermining the switch to EVs with tariffs and adding pointless cost to customers wanting to go green.

"Manufacturers who have invested heavily early in the transition will be hardest hit by tariffs because combustion engine vehicles will continue to move tariff-free."

'Fatal delay'

Britishvolt had planned to build a large scale battery factory - a so-called gigafactory - at a site on the North East coast near Blyth.

The plans were hailed by the then Prime Minister Boris Johnson as "part of our Green Industrial Revolution" and the site was visited by then Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng.

But while the government agreed in principle to provide funds to help the company build the factory, Mr Nadari told Sky News the Treasury repeatedly dragged its heels.

He said even after all the necessary paperwork had been done, the relevant papers sat on the then Chancellor Rishi Sunak's desk for months before being formally approved.

That delay was fatal, Mr Nadjari alleged, because it meant that Britishvolt ended up trying to raise most of its money at a period of war and sky-high inflation, when global investment was cratering.

"Nobody could foresee a two digit inflation, that the country hasn't seen since 1955," he said, adding that Britishvolt was "caught between a rock and a hard place" as Mr Sunak and Boris Johnson battled during the former prime minister's last days in
office.

"Nobody could foresee three different prime ministers, four different chancellors… The UK saw a very turbulent time… and for a startup, what is important is that continuous capital injection and that really halted off and unfortunately because of
that rivalry, we were hit with a delay."

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Britain has now missed its window of opportunity to build a battery
industry, and the government, including Rishi Sunak, is largely to blame,
the head of collapsed cell manufacturer Britishvolt has told Sky News.

The company was feted as the jewel in Britain's manufacturing crown - the first home-grown gigafactory, co-financed by the government and turning
out electric car batteries from its plant in the North East - but went
into administration earlier this year.

The company went bust because investors were unimpressed with its business model, and so refrained from supporting the venture.

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THE BEST OF BRITISH!

https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article26017412.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/1_Britishvolt-administration.jpg

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

THE BEST OF BRITISH!

https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article26017412.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/1_Britishvolt-administration.jpg

All they needed was the right business model.

Economics 101.

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On Sunday, 21 May 2023 at 16:47:01 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

On 21/05/2023 10:47 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez

boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air

pollution and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on

hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a nuclear power station in their back yard.

But that is exactly what they should be made to understand:

"Generate all your own power within London (and dispose of all your own waste within London).

"Don't expect others to put up with your pollution."

Rather than charging for driving in to London we should charge those who live in London £25 a day to leave.

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On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:15:45 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Rather than charging for driving in to London we should charge those who live in London £25 a day to leave.

Just wait for the next London marathon - would make a bomb!

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JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:

On 22/05/2023 06:15 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

On Sunday, 21 May 2023 at 16:47:01 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

On 21/05/2023 10:47 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater
London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of >>>>> the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from
August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner >>>>> air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s
organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a >>>>> disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak >>>>> up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a >>>>> lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering >>>>> and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected >>>>> to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s
boundary, which will become the Ulez boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to >>>>> mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths
report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella
Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir >>>>> Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air pollution and to
educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency
medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a
neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns >>>>> that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air
pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the
damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air
pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the
country that could be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), >>>>> the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction >>>>> towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all >>>>> healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the
cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists >>>>> are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much >>>>> illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to
dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be
raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a >>>> nuclear power station in their back yard.

But that is exactly what they should be made to understand:

"Generate all your own power within London (and dispose of all your own
waste within London).

"Don't expect others to put up with your pollution."

Rather than charging for driving in to London we should charge those who
live in London £25 a day to leave.

Now *there's* an idea!

WHS

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On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 7:05:34 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:15:45 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Rather than charging for driving in to London we should charge those who live in London £25 a day to leave.

Just wait for the next London marathon - would make a bomb!

The poor dear are "imprisoned" in their own homes apparently.

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On Tuesday, 23 May 2023 at 11:28:01 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

On 22/05/2023 06:15 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

On Sunday, 21 May 2023 at 16:47:01 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

On 21/05/2023 10:47 am, Mike Collins wrote:

On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

“We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez

boundary.

Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air

pollution and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on

hospital wards.

Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

“At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

“The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

“So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

“Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

“Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a nuclear power station in their back yard.

But that is exactly what they should be made to understand:

"Generate all your own power within London (and dispose of all your own >> waste within London).

"Don't expect others to put up with your pollution."

Rather than charging for driving in to London we should charge those who live in London £25 a day to leave.

Now *there's* an idea!

If you live in London everything you need to sustain life comes from outside, so stay in your stinking hell hole and be grateful.
Londoners who are bothered by air pollution can pay for air filters and CO2 scrubbers.

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On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

Will these be included?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMckoqLbCs8

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JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:

On 12/05/2023 07:39 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: > “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so
much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to
dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.” ENDS
COPD?
Isn't that the nutcase new unelected trading bloc posing as a replacement for the EU?

"Benefit" of 0.04% return after 15 years to replace the 4.0% loss NOW
caused by leaving the biggest trading bloc on the planet 23 miles away
with one 12000 miles away?

IDIOTS.

Chav-cyclists?

Agreed.

There was an interesting item about this on the business news this morning.
I can’t recall the reasons, but this sort of deal was thought to be a good idea to implement.

Detractors, of course, look at the short term.

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Poor babies happy now?

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/349831626_204405332534140_5722240380667023760_n.jpg

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Poor babies happy now?

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/349831626_204405332534140_5722240380667023760_n.jpg

That cartoon neatly avoids the point that the cyclists that complained of
being ‘trapped’ could have left their house, on their bicycles, by cycling on the pavement (whether allowed or not, it doesn’t make any difference to them).

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QUOTE: “So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air." ENDS

Tony Blackburn wants more Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah's killed by car fumes - it's only fair as they pay something to spew out toxic gases into children's lungs.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: “So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air." ENDS

Tony Blackburn wants more Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah's killed by car fumes -
it's only fair as they pay something to spew out toxic gases into children's lungs.

A ‘dramatic reduction’ in emissions and air pollution in the last year - yet no mention at all of even one asthma case fewer than before.

Yet Khan said “The evidence from this landmark report is clear – the ULEZ works. This is beyond dispute. It has already reduced toxic air pollution
by almost half in central London and by over a fifth in inner London, transforming the quality of air for four million Londoners”.

So where is the mention of the reduction in asthma cases that could have
been expected if the ‘pollution causes asthma’ hypothesis is true?

Whatever ULEZ is about, air quality and pollution is the excuse, not the reason.

80% of asthma cases are due to viral infection.

Indoor pollution can be 8x that of outdoors.

Khan’s KhracKhdown on Khars is political, not environmental.

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A London mother who is campaigning against air pollution 10 years on from her daughter's death has said she will not "apologise" for her work.

Ella Kissi-Debrah was the first person to have air pollution listed as a cause of death at an inquest in the UK.

Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah has been calling on MPs to introduce the Clean Air (Human Rights) Bill - or "Ella's law", named after her daughter.

She said she wanted to ensure "no child in this country will die from asthma".

At the conclusion of Ella Kissi-Debrah's inquest in 2020, coroner Philip Barlow said the nine-year-old had been exposed to excessive levels of pollution before she died.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A London mother who is campaigning against air pollution 10 years on from
her daughter's death has said she will not "apologise" for her work.

Ella Kissi-Debrah was the first person to have air pollution listed as a cause of death at an inquest in the UK.

Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah has been calling on MPs to introduce the Clean
Air (Human Rights) Bill - or "Ella's law", named after her daughter.

She said she wanted to ensure "no child in this country will die from asthma".

At the conclusion of Ella Kissi-Debrah's inquest in 2020, coroner Philip Barlow said the nine-year-old had been exposed to excessive levels of pollution before she died.

Asthma: Six Tips

Air Pollution: Six top tips from asthma.org.uk

Open windows if you can (be cautious on high pollen or pollution days) or
use extractor fans, especially in kitchens and bathrooms. It’ll help clear any indoor pollutants and prevent damp and mould.

Reduce dust mites as much as possible by regularly washing bedding or using anti-allergy covers. Read more on dust mites.

Avoid aerosols and sprays – go for non-spray cleaning and personal
products.

Avoid strong smells and chemicals – look for mild or unscented products,
and products low in VOCs (Volatile Organic Chemicals).

Don’t smoke. Cigarette smoke is a dangerous asthma trigger. And it can also make you and your child more sensitive to other indoor triggers.

Make sure any heaters, cookers and boilers are serviced regularly. Also
make sure any new appliances are fitted properly with adequate ventilation.



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One of Ella’s dying wishes was that her siblings, who were really young, wouldn’t forget her and she also didn’t want her friends to forget her, obviously. She said to me: “‘Oh Mum. I hope they will remember me,” said Rosamund Kissi-Debrah
recently. “I think Ella would like the fact that when you show her picture now, or you mention her name, most people know who she is.”

Ella’s fame is tragic: she died, aged nine, after an acute asthma attack in south London on 15 February 2013. She had had more than 25 emergency hospital admissions in the previous three years. In 2020, a landmark coroner’s report made Ella the first
person in the world to have air pollution cited as a cause of death.

In the 10 years since she lost her daughter, Kissi-Debrah has become a compelling advocate for cleaner air. She is driving the proposed “Ella’s law” in the UK parliament and is a World Health Organization advocate, while also keeping the memory of
Ella as a lively, smart and musical girl alive. Kissi-Debrah was made CBE in the New Year’s honours list.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

One of Ella’s dying wishes was that her siblings, who were really young, wouldn’t forget her and she also didn’t want her friends to forget her, obviously. She said to me: “‘Oh Mum. I hope they will remember me,” said
Rosamund Kissi-Debrah recently. “I think Ella would like the fact that
when you show her picture now, or you mention her name, most people know who she is.”

Ella’s fame is tragic: she died, aged nine, after an acute asthma attack
in south London on 15 February 2013. She had had more than 25 emergency hospital admissions in the previous three years.

One wonders if the coroner had been made aware of what research papers
claim is a major cause of asthma events: virus infections.

In 2020, a landmark coroner’s report made Ella the first person in the world to have air pollution cited as a cause of death.

In the 10 years since she lost her daughter, Kissi-Debrah has become a compelling advocate for cleaner air. She is driving the proposed “Ella’s law” in the UK parliament and is a World Health Organization advocate, while also keeping the memory of Ella as a lively, smart and musical girl alive. Kissi-Debrah was made CBE in the New Year’s honours list.

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A new clean air law is starting out in parliament after the Green party peer Jenny Jones won first place in the House of Lords ballot for private members’ bills.

Named Ella’s law, as a tribute to nine-year-old Ella Kissi-Debrah who died from asthma induced by air pollution, the bill would establish a right to clean air and set up a commission to oversee government actions and progress. It would also join
policies on indoor and outdoor air pollution with actions to combat our climate emergency, and include annual reviews of the latest science.

Jones said: “Having a nice environment isn’t just a matter of ecology and science, it is a question of social justice. The clean air (human rights) bill would enshrine the human right to healthy air precisely and explicitly in UK law. A suitable date
for the government to put it into law would be before the 70th anniversary of the Great Smog later this year”.

The UK’s first Clean Air Act also began as a private member’s bill, introduced by the handlebar moustached Tory MP Gerald Nabarro. Nabarro’s bill was triggered by a Ministry for Health report that estimated a death toll of about 4,000 people due to
the weeklong London smog of 1952, a death rate greater than the Victorian cholera outbreaks and the worst periods of the blitz.

Politically, Jones and Nabarro are poles apart but Jones’s bill comes at a time when about 4,000 Londoners die from breathing polluted air each year. UK annual deaths are estimated to be between 28,000 and 36,000, and globally it is about 7 million.

Since Nabarro’s bill, thousands of research studies have explored the health harm from air pollution, or, viewed from a different angle, the benefits that could come from cleaner air.

Dr Maria Neira, the World Health Organization (WHO) director for public health, environmental and social determinants of health, said: “These days we have overwhelming evidence that air pollution harms health, more than enough evidence to justify
actions to reduce exposure. You can imagine the incredible number of lives we will save.”

Improving air pollution saves money from reduced absence from work and less cost to the NHS. In parallel to Jones’s bill, the government is asking for views on its own targets for particle pollution in England. These targets for 2040 match the
guidelines that were set by the WHO in 2005. Additionally, it is proposed to reduce average particle pollution by 35%. According to government analysis, the benefits from these actions would be five times greater than the money than spent cleaning our
air.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A new clean air law is starting out in parliament after the Green party
peer Jenny Jones won first place in the House of Lords ballot for private members’ bills.

Excellent news for those who want to see pollution in the home controlled
and lowered.

Scented personal products of all kinds, pets, gas heating and cooking,
aerosols and trigger packs of all kinds, furnishings, building work - there
is a lot to ban if indoor pollution is to be brought down to outdoor
levels.

But what will happen when the summer brings in red zone pollution from
Africa and Europe? What will be proposed to ban that?

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Green party peer Jenny Jones is pushing a new clean air law after it won first place in the House of Lords ballot for private members’ bills.

Ella’s Law is what people are calling the Clean Air (Human Rights) Bill, introduced to Parliament by Baroness Jenny Jones in May 2022, named after Ella Adoo Kissi Debrah, the first person in England to have air pollution named as a cause of death by a
coroner.

The bill aims to protect the public against air pollution which is one of the biggest public health hazards of our time and responsible for tens of thousands of premature deaths in the UK.

The bill would establish a right to clean air and set up a commission to oversee government actions and progress. It would also join policies on indoor and outdoor air pollution with actions to combat our climate emergency, and include annual reviews of
the latest science.

It would force the government to act to bring air quality in every community up to minimum WHO standards. This would mean people no longer have to breathe air that seriously damages their health. It would also mean a better quality of life in many other
ways, too.

Rosamund Adoo Kissi Debrah, Ella’s mum, said; “Ella used to worry people might forget her and move on. She would love to have known that people will remember her for something good.”

Jones said: “Having a nice environment isn’t just a matter of ecology and science, it is a question of social justice. The clean air (human rights) bill would enshrine the human right to healthy air precisely and explicitly in UK law. A suitable date
for the government to put it into law would be before the 70th anniversary of the Great Smog later this year”.

According to Hodge Jones & Allen’s Kate Harrison, “The Bill stands a good chance of getting through all three stages in the Lords, before moving into the Commons. It is transformational for UK environmental legislation; elements that the Government
had previously not been willing to introduce in the Environment Act are included. For example, the air quality target limits set by the World Health Organisation (“WHO”). It is truly progressive as it treats air as one entity and would protect the
rights of current and future generations to enjoy clean air. If successful, the Bill will be a benchmark for future environmental legislation.

The Government has recently proposed setting air pollution limits in England that are twice as high as the WHO recommendations, which poses a serious concern and risk to the health of millions of people in the UK. As air pollution has increased, so has
evidence of the negative impacts of air pollution on health, especially the threat posed by ultra-fine particles which can lodge in the brain and other organs.

Should the Bill pass, it will provide every person the right to be able to play a bigger and more significant part in combating air pollution within the UK. For the public, this means they will even be able to challenge regulatory bodies on promises and
targets set for improving air quality.

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It would appear that Jenny Jones has two ‘clean air’ bills in progress!

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Green party peer Jenny Jones is pushing a new clean air law after it won first place in the House of Lords ballot for private members’ bills.

Ella’s Law is what people are calling the Clean Air (Human Rights) Bill, introduced to Parliament by Baroness Jenny Jones in May 2022, named after Ella Adoo Kissi Debrah, the first person in England to have air pollution named as a cause of death by a coroner.

The bill aims to protect the public against air pollution which is one of
the biggest public health hazards of our time and responsible for tens of thousands of premature deaths in the UK.

The bill would establish a right to clean air and set up a commission to oversee government actions and progress. It would also join policies on indoor and outdoor air pollution with actions to combat our climate emergency, and include annual reviews of the latest science.

It would force the government to act to bring air quality in every
community up to minimum WHO standards. This would mean people no longer
have to breathe air that seriously damages their health. It would also
mean a better quality of life in many other ways, too.

Rosamund Adoo Kissi Debrah, Ella’s mum, said; “Ella used to worry people might forget her and move on. She would love to have known that people
will remember her for something good.”

Jones said: “Having a nice environment isn’t just a matter of ecology and science, it is a question of social justice. The clean air (human rights) bill would enshrine the human right to healthy air precisely and
explicitly in UK law. A suitable date for the government to put it into
law would be before the 70th anniversary of the Great Smog later this year”.

According to Hodge Jones & Allen’s Kate Harrison, “The Bill stands a good chance of getting through all three stages in the Lords, before moving
into the Commons. It is transformational for UK environmental
legislation; elements that the Government had previously not been willing
to introduce in the Environment Act are included. For example, the air quality target limits set by the World Health Organisation (“WHO”). It is truly progressive as it treats air as one entity and would protect the
rights of current and future generations to enjoy clean air. If
successful, the Bill will be a benchmark for future environmental legislation.

The Government has recently proposed setting air pollution limits in
England that are twice as high as the WHO recommendations, which poses a serious concern and risk to the health of millions of people in the UK.
As air pollution has increased, so has evidence of the negative impacts
of air pollution on health, especially the threat posed by ultra-fine particles which can lodge in the brain and other organs.

Should the Bill pass, it will provide every person the right to be able
to play a bigger and more significant part in combating air pollution
within the UK. For the public, this means they will even be able to
challenge regulatory bodies on promises and targets set for improving air quality.

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A new law to enshrine the human right to clean has passed through the committee stage at the House of Lords.

The Clean Air Bill is also known as Ella’s Law, after Ella Kissi-Debrah, the first person in the UK to have air pollution listed as a cause of death.

The bill, put forward by Baroness Jenny Jones, would require public bodies to review and monitor pollution limits, with the aims of achieving clean air in the UK within five years of its passing.

It received no opposition as it passed through to the report stage.

Baroness Jones said she hoped the bill will pass before the 10th anniversary of Ella’s death on February 15, 2023. She later tweeted: “My #CleanAirBill went thru Committee Stage in about half an hour! We’d worked hard to deal with everyone’s
comments so it meant there was widespread support and no opposition.”

Ella, who lived in Lewisham in south London, died from an asthma attack and in 2020, a coroner ruled excessive exposure to air pollution contributed to her death in a landmark inquest.

In spring last year, the coroner said the UK needed to bring its “far higher” threshold for fine particulate matter (PM2.5) – a type of air pollutant – in line with the World Health Organisation’s (WHO) to reduce the number of air pollution
deaths.

Ella’s mother Rosamund Kissi-Debrah, now a clean air campaigner, said at the time that the target was “too weak”.

“We have moved on from 2005 targets. The WHO realised they were not even strong enough because 7 million people still continue to die,” Ms Kissi-Debrah said.

This is how many people the global health body estimates are killed every year around the world by air pollution, which is linked to lung cancer, heart disease, chronic respiratory and autoimmune diseases, among other health issues.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A new law to enshrine the human right to clean has passed through the committee stage at the House of Lords.

A ‘right to clean’ sounds like a good idea, but does it need enshrining in law?


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On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:48:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A new law to enshrine the human right to clean has passed through the committee stage at the House of Lords.

I thought that the Brextards said that the unelected and undemocratic House of Lords has no powers?

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On Thursday, 1 June 2023 at 19:59:30 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:

A new law to enshrine the human right to clean has passed through the committee stage at the House of Lords.

A ‘right to clean’ sounds like a good idea, but does it need enshrining in
law?

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A right to clean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwhNiob43MQ

Unwashed criminals

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