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    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 12:03:07 2023
    Parents of children attending a primary school in Worcester, where children riding their bikes have been put in danger by motorists using a narrow, nearby lane as a shortcut, have established their own guerilla School Street by blocking both ends of the
    road at school pick-up times, in response to the “horrendous” road safety conditions in the area.

    However, the local county council’s cabinet member for transport has criticised the parents’ unofficial actions, which he claims has seen them take “the law and road safety into their own hands, effectively blockading a road without a permit and
    without permission”.

    Road safety issues have long been a source of frustration and concern for teachers and parents at St George’s Roman Catholic, a small primary school in Worcester. Tucked away, as one parent tells road.cc, on the corner “where a narrower road meets an
    even narrower lane”, the school has been the sight of numerous near misses involving motorists and children cycling and walking to school.

    “There is no room for a pavement, pedestrians and bikes have to squeeze along the side wall to make way for a car, it’s even worse when a van passes,” Isabelle, a resident who has walked her children to school for many years along Thorneloe Walk,
    the scene of most of the road safety issues, and a volunteer with the school’s Bike Bus, tells road.cc.

    “Vehicles reaching the corner of the Walk have to perform a three (or more) point manoeuvre there, which is also the main entrance to school for children on foot/bike/scooters. You can imagine the mayhem at school times!

    “The brick wall opposite the school gate has been knocked down twice, and temporary boarding now makes the corner even narrower.”

    Isabelle says that there have been several attempts by the school to address the safety issues over the past decade, including weekly ‘bike to school’ initiatives, warnings to parents not to use Thorneloe Walk if travelling by car, and attempts to
    monitor parking and driving in the area by the council.

    An attempt in 2020 to set up a School Street, an initiative adopted throughout Great Britain in recent years which restricts the use of motor vehicles outside schools at drop-off and pick-up times, applying to both school and through traffic, was met
    with a lacklustre response from Worcestershire County Council, which Isabelle says left parents “completely discouraged”.

    After the brick wall on the lane was knocked down again last November, a petition to install bollards or create a School Street received over 200 signatures within a week – only for the petitioners to be told by the council that their expectations were
    “unrealistic”.

    The issue again came to a head last week, when the closure of a main road next to the school, due to a burst water pipe, prompted many drivers to begin using Thorneloe Walk as a short cut.

    “Within hours, the traffic through Thorneloe Walk, which is normally bad, became horrendous,” Isabelle, who posted a video on Twitter of the chaotic traffic situation as the Bike Bus attempted to make it to school, says.

    “Lorries tried to squeeze through, then had to reverse, cars came head to head from both ends of the walk. All of this in the midst of children.

    “It became evidence for us – the county council has not helped the community for over 10 years, the likelihood of an accident was at that point higher than ever. We needed to act and make our voices heard!”

    On Monday, several parents, clad in hi-vis jackets, set up their own School Street on the lane, to allow their children to walk and cycle to and from school safely.

    “It is quite simple to set up: you need a barrier, cones, people, hi-vis, a clipboard for that official look, some leaflets to explain your action and school streets principles, and a smiley face,” Isabelle says.

    “We are lucky to have had support from our local city councillors and from Bike Worcester, which is a pressure group promoting active travel within the city.”

    She continues: “The amount of positive feedback has been overwhelming. Parents and residents are thanking us every day for taking a stand. I was particularly touched by parents standing in solidarity with us and sharing their horror story of seeing
    their child nearly run over by the school.”

    The parent’s action, the necessity of which was underlined yesterday morning when a lorry driver crashed into a wall (link is external) on Thorneloe Road, adjacent to the makeshift School Street, has garnered support from several local councillors,
    including Green Party city councillor Karen Lewing, who formed part of the blockade on Monday.

    “School Streets are popping up around the country, but the county council does not yet have a policy. They say they are working on one but they’re not working as fast as we would like,” she said this week.

    The initiative was also praised on Twitter by broadcaster and cycling campaigner Jeremy Vine, who said that “we need to move away from the idea that people who own large metal boxes get priority over the rest of us just because they have an accelerator
    pedal. It’s nuts.”

    However, not everyone is fully behind the unofficial School Street.

    Councillor Mike Rouse, cabinet member with responsibility for Highways and Transport at Worcestershire County Council, criticised the parents and residents for taking matters into their own hands.

    “I cannot condone campaigners taking the law and road safety into their own hands, effectively blockading a road without a permit and without permission,” he tweeted. “We need to work together to effect change, not force our ideas onto communities
    without being certain that they’ve consented.”

    He continued in a statement: “School Streets and similar initiatives need the support of the school and the local community together in order to become formalised and be successful in the long term.

    “School Streets are just one way of encouraging active travel by walking and cycling to and from our schools, we have also achieved this in areas around the county by installing crossing points, and dropping nearby kerbs to allow easier access to do
    this.

    “Where actions like [those at St George’s] have happened elsewhere we see a rise in community tensions, so we call on all those involved to work with us constructively and not to take the law and road safety into their own hands.”

    Nevertheless, Isabelle says the success of the makeshift School Street has led to talk that the county council will soon begin to actively promote the initiative, with guidance reportedly being prepared by the Highways department.

    “We do hope that the safety of children and their families on the way to school will finally become a priority in Worcestershire,” she says.

    https://road.cc/content/news/parents-set-unofficial-school-street-after-near-misses-302221

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu Jun 29 21:15:28 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Parents of children attending a primary school in Worcester, where
    children riding their bikes have been put in danger by motorists using a narrow, nearby lane as a shortcut, have established their own guerilla
    School Street by blocking both ends of the road at school pick-up times,
    in response to the “horrendous” road safety conditions in the area.

    https://road.cc/content/news/parents-set-unofficial-school-street-after-near-misses-302221

    The school concerned backs on to Stephenson Road, which is a single
    carriageway (one lane each way) and appears to have a pavement (the
    satellite photo is unclear). It is not beyond the wit of the school to open
    an entrance onto that road, and avoid all the problems associated with Thorneloe Walk.

    QED.


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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 22:40:11 2023
    Pub bike | 302 posts | 7 hours ago
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    "Councillor Mike Rouse, cabinet member with responsibility for Highways and Transport at Worcestershire County Council, criticised the parents and residents for taking matters into their own hands."

    What does he expect when the council takes no action? Councils and police forces across the country that fail to enforce legislation can expect a lot more of this.

    We can see evidence of this inaction when police put up signs such as "Thieves operate in this area" which actually means "Police cannot be bothered to operate in this area".

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jun 30 09:44:46 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pub bike | 302 posts | 7 hours ago
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    "Councillor Mike Rouse, cabinet member with responsibility for Highways
    and Transport at Worcestershire County Council, criticised the parents
    and residents for taking matters into their own hands."

    What does he expect when the council takes no action? Councils and
    police forces across the country that fail to enforce legislation can
    expect a lot more of this.

    Quite so.

    I would like to see vigorous enforcement of the laws that forbid cycling on
    the pavement, cycling through red lights, cycling across pedestrian
    crossings when being used, cycling while drunk, and cycling over the speed limit classed as ‘furious cycling’.

    What action do you suspect people can undertake to
    enforce these laws?

    We can see evidence of this inaction when police put up signs such as "Thieves operate in this area" which actually means "Police cannot be bothered to operate in this area".

    The meaning of that sign is that people should take some sensible
    precautions to protect themselves and not expect to place the entire burden
    on others, much in the same way that cyclists demand ever more infra to
    ‘make cycling safe’ while doing nothing at all themselves to minimise risk.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jun 30 11:21:43 2023
    On 30/06/2023 06:40 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Pub bike | 302 posts | 7 hours ago
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    "Councillor Mike Rouse, cabinet member with responsibility for Highways and Transport at Worcestershire County Council, criticised the parents and residents for taking matters into their own hands."

    What does he expect when the council takes no action? Councils and police forces across the country that fail to enforce legislation can expect a lot more of this.

    Yes - aggrieved citizens could erect temporary scaffolds and summarily
    hang chavs-on-bikes who use the footway, thereby endangering normal people.

    Thanks for that - it's a good suggestion.
    We can see evidence of this inaction when police put up signs such as "Thieves operate in this area" which actually means "Police cannot be bothered to operate in this area".

    "Chavs-on-bikes operate in this area"?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 03:22:01 2023
    brooksby | 11764 posts | 2 hours ago
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    That really doesn't look like motor vehicles should be allowed through... It looks like a footway, although I can't see any problem with letting cyclists through too. But motor cars (and skip lorries!)? That's a definite no from me.
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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Spike on Fri Jun 30 10:34:37 2023
    Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Parents of children attending a primary school in Worcester, where
    children riding their bikes have been put in danger by motorists using a
    narrow, nearby lane as a shortcut, have established their own guerilla
    School Street by blocking both ends of the road at school pick-up times,
    in response to the “horrendous” road safety conditions in the area.

    https://road.cc/content/news/parents-set-unofficial-school-street-after-near-misses-302221

    The school concerned backs on to Stephenson Road, which is a single carriageway (one lane each way) and appears to have a pavement (the
    satellite photo is unclear). It is not beyond the wit of the school to open an entrance onto that road, and avoid all the problems associated with Thorneloe Walk.

    QED.

    Even better, when one does the little research that road.cc failed to do.

    Stephenson Road, at the back of the school, is part is a cycle network.
    This is indicated by blue-and-white bicycle signs bearing the number 46 in
    red:

    <https://goo.gl/maps/8nEr9unpaC8yLoVS8>

    Further, there is a footpath right next to the school, leading from
    Stephenson Road, where a safe school entrance could be created for cyclists
    and walkers:

    <https://goo.gl/maps/xCC4onGoTBgUrn8v9>

    Essentially, the parents are fighting the wrong battle.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 03:37:46 2023
    Second day of our #schoolstreet trial @StGeorgesRCWorc
    👍 Strong feelings of support and togetherness as people stop to share stories of near-misses and incidents from the past. This photo is from a local resident - school gate right behind lorry😱👇

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzp4T_EWwAAnLTJ?format=jpg&name=medium

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Spike on Fri Jun 30 12:43:09 2023
    Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
    Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Parents of children attending a primary school in Worcester, where
    children riding their bikes have been put in danger by motorists using a >>> narrow, nearby lane as a shortcut, have established their own guerilla
    School Street by blocking both ends of the road at school pick-up times, >>> in response to the “horrendous” road safety conditions in the area.

    https://road.cc/content/news/parents-set-unofficial-school-street-after-near-misses-302221

    The school concerned backs on to Stephenson Road, which is a single
    carriageway (one lane each way) and appears to have a pavement (the
    satellite photo is unclear). It is not beyond the wit of the school to open >> an entrance onto that road, and avoid all the problems associated with
    Thorneloe Walk.

    QED.

    Even better, when one does the little research that road.cc failed to do.

    Stephenson Road, at the back of the school, is part is a cycle network.
    This is indicated by blue-and-white bicycle signs bearing the number 46 in red:

    <https://goo.gl/maps/8nEr9unpaC8yLoVS8>

    Further, there is a footpath right next to the school, leading from Stephenson Road, where a safe school entrance could be created for cyclists and walkers:

    <https://goo.gl/maps/xCC4onGoTBgUrn8v9>

    Essentially, the parents are fighting the wrong battle.

    The other thing parents could do is send their children to a school that
    could or does meet their demands. It’s not as if they are strangers to the area.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 06:27:06 2023
    BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 858 posts | 6 hours ago
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    “I cannot condone campaigners taking the law and road safety into their own hands, effectively blockading a road without a permit and without permission,” he tweeted. “We need to work together to effect change, not force our ideas onto communities
    without being certain that they’ve consented.”

    where to begin? Every billion that is spent on a road junction, road widening, by - pass, car park, out of town retail centre . . . Where is the consent? Yet every little LTN or cycle lane has to go through months of consultation, backlash and media
    hysteria.


    ----------------------------- SPOT ON!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Fri Jun 30 16:01:40 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 858 posts | 6 hours ago
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    Every billion that is spent on a road junction, road widening, by - pass,
    car park, out of town retail centre . . . Where is the consent? Yet every little LTN or cycle lane has to go through months of consultation,
    backlash and media hysteria.

    ----------------------------- SPOT ON!

    Except those road junctions, road widenings, cycle lanes and other infra on which public money is showered at the behest of cyclists, largely without
    wider consent.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 10:07:25 2023
    Adam Sutton replied to marmotte27 | 410 posts | 9 hours ago
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    When it comes to parents there is more selfishness than any common good. Our local school has had to install CCTV after a number of kids have been injured by other parents driving. Near to my parents the road becomes outright dangerous at home time as
    there are two schools along the road. The pavement and junctions are blocked by parents parked up and the main road narrowed to the point of gridlock if anything like a bus tries to get through.
    .

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