Hull City Council will ask the Government to grant it new powers to tackle inconsiderate driving, after the public backed the move.

The authority's ruling cabinet has greed to apply for so-called "moving traffic enforcement powers" to clamp down on offences such as blocking yellow box junctions. Councillors believe it will help tackle congestion, help traffic flow, improve road
safety and shorten bus journeys.

Around 60 per cent of people who took part in a public consultation backed introducing the powers. Ferensway, Freetown Way, Witham, Anlaby Road and Holderness Road were seen as the worst streets for offences, according to a separate survey of the Hull
People's Panel.

Initially, the council plans to use the new powers to stop drivers from entering the yellow box junction at the junction of Ferensway and the entrance to Paragon Interchange, which can delay buses from entering the station. It would then look at using
the powers to stop other offences, such as banned right and left turns, and going in the wrong direction down a one-way street. At present, only Humberside Police can enforce these rules.

Some 34 per cent of people surveyed said that yellow box offences were the biggest issue of those being considered for the new powers, followed by drivers using prohibited routes or lanes, and entry into restricted zones. However, a combined 41 per cent
of those surveyed said that they either did not know what the biggest issue was, said it was none of those listed, or said it was another one entirely.

If the Government agrees to the council's request, the new powers could be come into force on Wednesday, October 25. Ministers are allowing authorities to apply for the powers under the Traffic Management Act 2004.

Cllr Mark Ieronimo, the cabinet portfolio holder for transport, said: "The results of the consultation clearly show that residents strongly support the council enforcing the yellow box at the junction of Ferensway and Brook Street, and on this basis, I
am delighted that we can now apply for the relevant enforcement powers."

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/worst-hull-roads-driving-offences-8779111

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On 26/09/2023 07:36, Simon Mason wrote:

Hull City Council will ask the Government to grant it new powers to tackle inconsiderate driving, after the public backed the move.

The authority's ruling cabinet has greed to apply for so-called "moving traffic enforcement powers" to clamp down on offences such as blocking yellow box junctions. Councillors believe it will help tackle congestion, help traffic flow, improve road

safety and shorten bus journeys.

Around 60 per cent of people who took part in a public consultation backed introducing the powers. Ferensway, Freetown Way, Witham, Anlaby Road and Holderness Road were seen as the worst streets for offences, according to a separate survey of the Hull

People's Panel.

Initially, the council plans to use the new powers to stop drivers from entering the yellow box junction at the junction of Ferensway and the entrance to Paragon Interchange, which can delay buses from entering the station. It would then look at using

the powers to stop other offences, such as banned right and left turns, and going in the wrong direction down a one-way street. At present, only Humberside Police can enforce these rules.

Are they planning to enforce the "wrong way in a one way street" power
against the main offenders?

Some 34 per cent of people surveyed said that yellow box offences were the biggest issue of those being considered for the new powers, followed by drivers using prohibited routes or lanes, and entry into restricted zones. However, a combined 41 per

cent of those surveyed said that they either did not know what the biggest issue was, said it was none of those listed, or said it was another one entirely.

If the Government agrees to the council's request, the new powers could be come into force on Wednesday, October 25. Ministers are allowing authorities to apply for the powers under the Traffic Management Act 2004.

Cllr Mark Ieronimo, the cabinet portfolio holder for transport, said: "The results of the consultation clearly show that residents strongly support the council enforcing the yellow box at the junction of Ferensway and Brook Street, and on this basis, I

am delighted that we can now apply for the relevant enforcement powers."

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/worst-hull-roads-driving-offences-8779111

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But the consequences of bad cycling don’t even touch the consequences of bad driving. Whether that's in relation to the congestion cyclists cause (nothing) the financial consequences of their actions (virtually nil), and their relation to loss of life (
you are as likely to be killed by a bolt of lightning).

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

But the consequences of bad cycling don’t even touch the consequences of bad driving. Whether that's in relation to the congestion cyclists cause (nothing) the financial consequences of their actions (virtually nil),
and their relation to loss of life (you are as likely to be killed by a
bolt of lightning).

That makes it OK to be a bad cyclist?

Whoever wrote that has a screw loose.

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On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:38:14 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

But the consequences of bad cycling don’t even touch the consequences of bad driving. Whether that's in relation to the congestion cyclists cause (nothing) the financial consequences of their actions (virtually nil), and their relation to loss of

life (you are as likely to be killed by a bolt of lightning). ============================
As for the argument about cyclists. Why the hell would you buy a bike and sit in a traffic jam? The idea of buying a bike is to avoid them. If the penny farthing brigade all took to their cars your problems would increase.

Be careful what you wish for.

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:38:14/PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

But the consequences of bad cycling dont even touch the consequences of
bad driving. Whether that's in relation to the congestion cyclists cause
(nothing) the financial consequences of their actions (virtually nil),
and their relation to loss of life (you are as likely to be killed by a
bolt of lightning).

=========================== As for the argument

about cyclists. Why the hell would you buy a bike and sit in a traffic
jam? The idea of buying a bike is to avoid them. If the penny farthing
brigade all took to their cars your problems would increase.

Be careful what you wish for.

Make that two screws loose.

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4 hrs ago

Motorists: 'There's too much congestion!'

Council: 'We're going to sort out the problem of motorists who ignore the Highway Code and block junctions so causing congestion.'

Motorists: 'CYCLISTS!'

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15 hrs ago

I have a question.

Since we all I'm assuming had driver's lessons

Did we indicate last second when turning into a road or did give plenty of time to indicate for other DRIVERS to know what you're doing?

Must be me being a sensible driver.

Now we need council to crack down on crap drivers.

Ban them for a year retake test

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

4 hrs ago

Motorists: 'There's too much congestion!'

Council: 'We're going to sort out the problem of motorists who ignore the Highway Code and block junctions so causing congestion.'

Motorists: 'CYCLISTS!'

That post failed the Turing Test.

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

15 hrs ago

I have a question.

Since we all I'm assuming had driver's lessons

Did we indicate last second when turning into a road or did give plenty
of time to indicate for other DRIVERS to know what you're doing?

Must be me being a sensible driver.

Now we need council to crack down on crap drivers.

Ban them for a year retake test

That post failed the Turing Test.

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It's an incredibly poor design. By having parking spaces in it it's useless to cyclists.

Yet, as a marked cycle lane, drivers expect you to move into the sections that haven't been parked on. If you do you inevitably have to weave around parked cars further along the road - at which point less than generous drivers usually refuse to let you
back into the general traffic.

I generally don't use this cycle lane and just cycle with the traffic. Cue all the 'cyclists don't even use cycle lanes even though we paid for them at great expense' comments. Well, if they council designed it properly, and scarified just a few parking
spaces to a functional bike lane, I wouldn't be holding up the traffic.

Travelling in the opposite direction, I have discovered the lanes are marginally better by Hull's low standards - the cycle lane under the bridge floods, and of course, there's no room for both cars and bikes at the pedestrian island before the
roundabout, and of course, no safe, accessible route around the roundabout that kids going to school can use.

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On 27/09/2023 07:39, Simon Mason wrote:

15 hrs ago

I have a question.

Since we all I'm assuming had driver's lessons

But not English grammar, it seems.

Did we indicate last second when turning into a road or did give plenty of time to indicate for other DRIVERS to know what you're doing?

Must be me being a sensible driver.

Now we need council to crack down on crap drivers.

Ban them for a year retake test

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On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:38:14 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

But the consequences of bad cycling don’t even touch the consequences of bad driving. Whether that's in relation to the congestion cyclists cause (nothing) the financial consequences of their actions (virtually nil), and their relation to loss of

life (you are as likely to be killed by a bolt of lightning).


1 day ago

its becoming clear that the government doesnt want people driving.

the ulez area in london is getting bigger, 20mph already an incoming reality in wales, our very own labour councils fabulous idea to have all day bus lanes therefore single file traffic even during non peak times, mot's getting tougher year after year
etc etc

my garage tells me they are failing vehicles now for things they wouldnt even have issued an advisory for 3 years ago

not to mention the cost of fuel and insurance

ive been oiling me pushbike and buying some hi viz to stand a better chance against all the weeded up nutters in smoke filled bmw's doing over 40 in the 30 zones with d&b banging out of the stereo

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