• Volte-face!

    From colwyn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 10 20:34:40 2024
    Matthew Parris wrote today in the Times:

    Have you ever seen anyone nearly killed? I did recently, in broad
    daylight on a city street. It’s a danger I know has been flagged up by cyclists ever since the tram was invented. And of course it can be
    avoided by prudent cycling, and sensible cyclists do avoid it. But still
    it came as a shock to see a woman almost killed by overlooking a hazard
    that had previously struck me as more theoretical than real.

    She was pedalling perfectly sedately across a set of tramlines that ran
    at an angle to her direction of travel. She must have turned her
    handlebars slightly (as you do on a bike to maintain balance) so that
    her front wheel was momentarily aligned with the narrow iron trench that
    is a tramline. The wheel must have slotted itself into the trench,
    throwing her off balance. I saw her fall.

    A tram was approaching at some speed. She could have fallen either way:
    under the iron wheel of the approaching tram or just clear of it. The
    driver braked hard and immediately but could not stop short of her.

    Mercifully, she fell clear. The tram came to a halt a couple of yards
    past where she fell. People rushed to help her up and she was shaken but unhurt. The woman remounted and cycled off in one piece.

    Had she fallen the other way, she would have been in two pieces.

    NB (Piano wire work too}

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to colwyn on Wed Apr 10 23:49:44 2024
    On 10/04/2024 08:34 pm, colwyn wrote:

    Matthew Parris wrote today in the Times:

    Have you ever seen anyone nearly killed? I did recently, in broad
    daylight on a city street. It’s a danger I know has been flagged up by cyclists ever since the tram was invented. And of course it can be
    avoided by prudent cycling, and sensible cyclists do avoid it. But still
    it came as a shock to see a woman almost killed by overlooking a hazard
    that had previously struck me as more theoretical than real.

    She was pedalling perfectly sedately across a set of tramlines that ran
    at an angle to her direction of travel. She must have turned her
    handlebars slightly (as you do on a bike to maintain balance) so that
    her front wheel was momentarily aligned with the narrow iron trench that
    is a tramline. The wheel must have slotted itself into the trench,
    throwing her off balance. I saw her fall.

    A tram was approaching at some speed. She could have fallen either way:
    under the iron wheel of the approaching tram or just clear of it. The
    driver braked hard and immediately but could not stop short of her.

    Mercifully, she fell clear. The tram came to a halt a couple of yards
    past where she fell. People rushed to help her up and she was shaken but unhurt. The woman remounted and cycled off in one piece.

    Had she fallen the other way, she would have been in two pieces.

    NB (Piano wire work too}

    It was always a known fact that chav-cyclists should steer well clear of tramlines, though the risk was said to be a warped front wheel rim.

    This particular risk was gradually removed during the late 1950s and
    early 1960s, as tram lines were gradually removed or asphalted over.

    But hey... trams and their sunken tracks are once again popular among PT "enthusiasts".

    PS: I also saw someone nearly killed. One Saturday afternoon in about
    1967, there was a fight and attendant fracas outside the pub my parents
    kept. Someone had said something unacceptable to a black patron whose girlfriend was white and the resultant meleé included a half-brick
    (there was waste ground next door) being thrown through the windscreen
    of someone's parked Mini.

    While the battle raged in progress along the street, the Mini's owner
    went back to his vehicle, started it and accelerated hard towards one of
    the main participants, who saw the car and managed to scramble out of
    the way by a second or so. Had he not seen the approaching Mini, we
    would all have witnessed a Death by Dangerous Driving, if not a murder.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Soup on Thu Apr 11 14:37:48 2024
    On 11/04/2024 12:00 pm, Soup wrote:

    On 10/04/2024 23:49, JNugent wrote:
    On 10/04/2024 08:34 pm, colwyn wrote:

    She was pedalling perfectly sedately across a set of tramlines that
    ran at an angle to her direction of travel. She must have turned her
    handlebars slightly (as you do on a bike to maintain balance) so that
    her front wheel was momentarily aligned with the narrow iron trench
    that is a tramline. The wheel must have slotted itself into the
    trench, throwing her off balance. I saw her fall.

    A tram was approaching at some speed. She could have fallen either
    way: under the iron wheel of the approaching tram or just clear of
    it. The driver braked hard and immediately but could not stop short
    of her.

    Mercifully, she fell clear. The tram came to a halt a couple of yards
    past where she fell. People rushed to help her up and she was shaken
    but unhurt. The woman remounted and cycled off in one piece.


    It was always a known fact that chav-cyclists should steer well clear
    of tramlines, though the risk was said to be a warped front wheel rim.

    This particular risk was gradually removed during the late 1950s and
    early 1960s, as tram lines were gradually removed or asphalted over.

    But hey... trams and their sunken tracks are once again popular among
    PT "enthusiasts".

    Case in point Edinburgh's trams, £1.2 million paid out

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburgh-trams-ps12-million-paid-out-over-cycle-accidents-on-edinburgh-tram-tracks-3850045

    Wow!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Apr 11 16:10:58 2024
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 12:00 pm, Soup wrote:

    On 10/04/2024 23:49, JNugent wrote:
    On 10/04/2024 08:34 pm, colwyn wrote:

    She was pedalling perfectly sedately across a set of tramlines that
    ran at an angle to her direction of travel. She must have turned her
    handlebars slightly (as you do on a bike to maintain balance) so that
    her front wheel was momentarily aligned with the narrow iron trench
    that is a tramline. The wheel must have slotted itself into the
    trench, throwing her off balance. I saw her fall.

    A tram was approaching at some speed. She could have fallen either
    way: under the iron wheel of the approaching tram or just clear of
    it. The driver braked hard and immediately but could not stop short
    of her.

    Mercifully, she fell clear. The tram came to a halt a couple of yards
    past where she fell. People rushed to help her up and she was shaken
    but unhurt. The woman remounted and cycled off in one piece.


    It was always a known fact that chav-cyclists should steer well clear
    of tramlines, though the risk was said to be a warped front wheel rim.

    This particular risk was gradually removed during the late 1950s and
    early 1960s, as tram lines were gradually removed or asphalted over.

    But hey... trams and their sunken tracks are once again popular among
    PT "enthusiasts".

    Case in point Edinburgh's trams, £1.2 million paid out

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburgh-trams-ps12-million-paid-out-over-cycle-accidents-on-edinburgh-tram-tracks-3850045


    Wow!

    I wonder how many upgraded bicycles that £1.2m paid for: “I crashed because of your tram lines, my bicycle is a wreck and I want a new one”?

    We all know the cyclist attitude to compo.

    --
    Spike

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  • From Peter Keller@21:1/5 to Spike on Fri Apr 12 11:28:04 2024
    On 12/04/24 04:10, Spike wrote:
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 12:00 pm, Soup wrote:

    On 10/04/2024 23:49, JNugent wrote:
    On 10/04/2024 08:34 pm, colwyn wrote:

    She was pedalling perfectly sedately across a set of tramlines that
    ran at an angle to her direction of travel. She must have turned her >>>>> handlebars slightly (as you do on a bike to maintain balance) so that >>>>> her front wheel was momentarily aligned with the narrow iron trench
    that is a tramline. The wheel must have slotted itself into the
    trench, throwing her off balance. I saw her fall.

    A tram was approaching at some speed. She could have fallen either
    way: under the iron wheel of the approaching tram or just clear of
    it. The driver braked hard and immediately but could not stop short
    of her.

    Mercifully, she fell clear. The tram came to a halt a couple of yards >>>>> past where she fell. People rushed to help her up and she was shaken >>>>> but unhurt. The woman remounted and cycled off in one piece.


    It was always a known fact that chav-cyclists should steer well clear
    of tramlines, though the risk was said to be a warped front wheel rim.

    This particular risk was gradually removed during the late 1950s and
    early 1960s, as tram lines were gradually removed or asphalted over.

    But hey... trams and their sunken tracks are once again popular among
    PT "enthusiasts".

    Case in point Edinburgh's trams, £1.2 million paid out

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburgh-trams-ps12-million-paid-out-over-cycle-accidents-on-edinburgh-tram-tracks-3850045


    Wow!

    I wonder how many upgraded bicycles that £1.2m paid for: “I crashed because
    of your tram lines, my bicycle is a wreck and I want a new one”?

    Probably about one, judging by the increasing prices of 'upgraded' bicycles.
    We all know the cyclist attitude to compo.

    'compo' does not compensate for my stay in a mangled state in Bed 13 of
    the ICU.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Peter Keller on Fri Apr 12 09:21:36 2024
    Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
    On 12/04/24 04:10, Spike wrote:
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 12:00 pm, Soup wrote:

    Case in point Edinburgh's trams, £1.2 million paid out

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburgh-trams-ps12-million-paid-out-over-cycle-accidents-on-edinburgh-tram-tracks-3850045

    Wow!

    I wonder how many upgraded bicycles that £1.2m paid for: “I crashed because
    of your tram lines, my bicycle is a wreck and I want a new one”?

    Probably about one, judging by the increasing prices of 'upgraded' bicycles.

    LOL

    A significant event happening to a carbon-framed bicycle means that it has
    to be X-rayed to check for cracks. A defective carbon frame can’t be recycled, it has to go to landfill.

    We all know the cyclist attitude to compo.

    'compo' does not compensate for my stay in a mangled state in Bed 13 of the ICU.

    Sadly, some people can only see the £££…

    --
    Spike

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